Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

LeBrok said:
You already showed us your hyper nationalistic side, and now we learn about your chauvinism. "Women should know their place."
Didn't occur to you that women joining combat troops is a sign of Kurds being more egalitarian and their women free to choose their destiny? Same as finding women in Western arm forces. Something incompressible for ISIS, Taliban and obviously you.
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Today on google news:

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See realtime coverage		[h=2]Kobani 'Poster Child' For Kurdish Female Fighters 'Beheaded' By IS[/h]
that's why I am against women fighters


 
albanopolis said:
that's why I am against women fighters
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It is not about what you want to make women happy. It is about what they want and chose as fully independent humans.

If your fully grown son decides to go to the war. Should you be able to stop him, because you are afraid your son will die? Why the double standard for women?
 
Since we were talking about the politics of Albania before, i thought i would add this:

What the 60-plus members of the anti-Islamic State coalition are doing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...f-the-anti-islamic-state-coalition-are-doing/

The United States-led coalition to fight the Islamic State militant group continues to grow, with numerous nations providing varying levels of backing in the form of military equipment, aid and political support. It is unclear, however, what exactly constitutes being a member of this coalition and how many nations have signed up.
Some of the states include France, Germany, Canada, UK, Italy, Czech Republic, Albania, Netherlands, Estoni, Hungary, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Belgium, Denmark etc.
 
Today Kurdish Peshmerga forces arrived in Kurdistan of Turkey to cross the border into Kobane.
And the first reports of harrasment against these Kurdish troops have gone around.


Let be honest here and no one can deny. These scared Turks who did not dare to attack an even weakened Assad without NATO assistance, they do not have only a problem with PKK. PKK is just an excuse for their deep rooted racism. They simply hate/fear Kurds as a whole.

BREAKING: #Kurdish forces in #Turkey told Rudaw that they face constant insults by the #Turkish soldiers in Suruc.
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Dr. Izzadin Tamo: We feel that are in a prison. We have been surrounded by many #Turkish soldiers here.
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Rudaw is the most globalized news agency among Kurds with ties to the ruling party in Iraqi Kurdistan.
https://www.facebook.com/RudawEnglish/posts/693254660782440


Remember when German soldiers who were deployed with patriots in Antep, have been harrased by Turkish soldiers too?
 
PESHMERGA CROSSING TURKEY MISTREATED BY TURKISH AUTHORITIES

Peshmerga doctor Izzettin Temo who is in the group crossing over from Turkey into Kobane has said that they are being treated badly by Turkish authorities.

Phoning Rudaw after having travelled to GAP Airport in Urfa last night (28 Nov) peshmerga doctor Izzettin Temo said, 'There are no facilities in the place we are staying. We do not have a bar of soap nor a washbasin to wash our hands. We feel like prisoners. We have no connection with the outside world. However we can do nothing but wait for our guns to reach us. Our journey is being delayed because of this.'

Temo also said that Turkish authorities in Hewlêr(Hewlêr) had not allowed the peshmerga to travel in their military uniforms and with their guns. He added, 'The Turkish soldiers are angry because the people came out onto the streets to greet the peshmerga. They are mistreating and insulting us because of this.'

Temo called on Kurdish authorities to come to their rescue and end the bad treatment.

A statement has not been made by the Peshmerga Ministry yet.
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http://kurdishquestion.com/kurdista...turkey-mistreated-by-turkish-authorities.html


At the same time ISIS has intensived it's attacks on Kobane.

It is clear here that Turkey accepted Peshmerga deployment just because of pressure from the West. They delay the jorney so the ISIS can finish up the Kurds in Koban before reinforcement arrives.
 
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Very uplifting profile and ideology of PYG with is Syrian Kurds army, aka People's Protection Units.

"Any freedom-loving democrat in this world can join us regardless of their religion, ethnicity, and ideology, as long as they accept our main principles of gender equality, peaceful coexistence and self-rule autonomy for all communities," he explained. "This is why YPG fighters include Kurds and Arab Muslims, secularists, Yezidis, Syriac Christians and some American and European comrades too."
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Number of foreing fighters is growing.
The most widely reported cases include 43-year-old US air force veteran Brian Wilson and 28-year-old ex-US Marine Jordan Matson.
According to local sources inside Syria's Kurdish "Rojava" region, however, 10 American citizens as well as hundreds of non-Kurdish volunteers comprising Syrian Arabs, Turkish citizens and Europeans have already joined the People's Protection Units (YPG) fighting against IS jihadists.
"I give no figures, but there is a considerable number of Westerners fighting in the ranks of the YPG as well as European women comrades who've joined the Women Protection Units (YPJ). There are many Turkish comrades too," said 28-year-old Kristopher Nicholaidis, who left Greece and joined YPG in Syria five months ago.
NICHOLAIDIS WAS AN ACTIVE local artist back in Greece where he used his art and politics to defend migrants, including Muslims.
"I come from a political family and I am a democratic socialist. I used my art and politics to defend the Muslim community from attacks initiated by fascists of the Golden Dawn party, but I consider IS jihadists as 21st century fascists posing a greater global threat as they barbarically spread Islamofascism on an international level," he said. "I believe that the YPG is therefore leading the greatest anti-fascist struggle of our time by fighting against IS jihadists. I joined this struggle to fight against global fascism in defence of democracy and peace in Kurdish Rojava."
Arsalan Celik, 26, studied political science at one of the most prestigious Turkish universities but left and joined the YPG April this year.
"I am not Turkish-Kurdish, I am Turkish from the city of Mersin. I came here because the IS jihadists come from all over the world instigating a war against humanity and my government helps them. I wanted to make a practical stance against IS and YPG was the only democratic militia I found in the region fighting back against these jihadists," he said.
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http://kurdishquestion.com/kurdista...-syriac-christians-against-islamic-state.html
 
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"The conservativeness of Kurdish Society is also more based on a ethno_cultural perspective. Arabians do not cover their women in Burka solely out of religious motives. In Fact covering women up was a pre Islamic tradition in Arabia to protect them from rival kidnapping. "


Rest way off topic and way distorted.
 
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This forum is OFF topic in all threads if you ask me or others; you are insulting & discriminating me, "editing", deleting my comments, without my permission! Besides I did not write anything 'offensive', or "off" this topic at all. - Islamic religion is an offspring of Egyptian, Akkadian & Arabic cults, which were influenced by Vedic civilization before them. You have problems in understanding this, and thinking it is "off topic"; From now on I am moving from "your" forum. Delete all my comments (since you are already deleting, re-writing(editing) them one by one) and close down my account. I hope others will do the same way.
 
LeBrok said:
Garrick, can you stop attacking Albanians for a moment?
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Well, life isn't always fair. People have their agendas. So it is natural for people to attack or take sides. LeBrok I know this site is not a site to spread hate, conflict or division, and I know you know that; and are trying to keep the peace. But the world for the most part, is not a fair and just place. There are bad Serbs just as there are bad Albanians.

I just wanted to let everyone know my thoughts on this; because it seems like a big issue and it gets out of hand easily. I think the best thing for me would be to try and not say anything, for now on.

(I know I don't mean to, but I often wonder if commenting on the Balkans only brings more conflict here on Eupedia. And I apologize for that. It is hard to be fair and neutral in a world that isn't fair and neutral, if you get my point.)
 
Garrick said:
LeBrok
It is not a happy solution, term bickering is embarrassing, and Balkans is in Europe, it was supposed to be in European topic.

And writing about Turkish authorities is linked with Kurds, more than the Balkans, small part of Turkey is in the Balkans.
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I hope it was embarrassing to all parties involved, and intentional characterisation how the rest of Europe, particularly members of Eupedia, sees this. Instead of constant bickering, name calling, agitation, and emphasising how different you are from one another, why don't you guys talk about what joins you together, makes you alike. Instead of making more enemies, make friends, who you could visit on your vacation. You are stuck in Balkans till the end of the world, sort to speak, so lets build something everybody can enjoy and be proud of.
 
Melancon said:
Well, life isn't always fair. People have their agendas. So it is natural for people to attack or take sides. LeBrok I know this site is not a site to spread hate, conflict or division, and I know you know that; and are trying to keep the peace. But the world for the most part, is not a fair and just place. There are bad Serbs just as there are bad Albanians.

I just wanted to let everyone know my thoughts on this; because it seems like a big issue and it gets out of hand easily. I think the best thing for me would be to try and not say anything, for now on.

(I know I don't mean to, but I often wonder if commenting on the Balkans only brings more conflict here on Eupedia. And I apologize for that. It is hard to be fair and neutral in a world that isn't fair and neutral, if you get my point.)
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Nobody attacked in this thread, neither I nor others, thing is that LeBrok didn't want that on this topic be anything else except Kurdish issue.

He is moderator and we need to respect him, but you can see and other members of forum think he is restrictive.

What is problem, when we discuss about Kurds, it is very difficult to avoid Turkey and its president.

And you know, where is Turkey, there is naturally Balkans and Balkan people.

And then someone cannot avoid to mention people who were Ottoman allies and those who fought against Ottomans, and LeBrok moved such texts in another thread, unfortunately he (unintentionally) did not give proper name.
 
LeBrok said:
I hope it was embarrassing to all parties involved, and intentional characterisation how the rest of Europe, particularly members of Eupedia, sees this. Instead of constant bickering, name calling, agitation, and emphasising how different you are from one another, why don't you guys talk about what joins you together, makes you alike. Instead of making more enemies, make friends, who you could visit on your vacation. You are stuck in Balkans till the end of the world, sort to speak, so lets build something everybody can enjoy and be proud of.
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All is right, and you as moderator see things different, you try that things be better, and it is for respect.

I only criticized the term bickering in the name of new thread, and it should be in European topics.
 
LeBrok said:
I hope it was embarrassing to all parties involved, and intentional characterisation how the rest of Europe, particularly members of Eupedia, sees this. Instead of constant bickering, name calling, agitation, and emphasising how different you are from one another, why don't you guys talk about what joins you together, makes you alike. Instead of making more enemies, make friends, who you could visit on your vacation. You are stuck in Balkans till the end of the world, sort to speak, so lets build something everybody can enjoy and be proud of.
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I absolutely understand you and i agree with what you are saying LeBrok.
This is the reason why i first joined this forum.
However on the occasions i had to respond on threads here, and you have noticed, it was because i found some type of attitudes towards another ethnicity innapropriate.
It would be nice for people to be friendly make friends here :)
 
Gorgonzola said:
I absolutely understand you and i agree with what you are saying LeBrok.
This is the reason why i first joined this forum.
However on the occasions i had to respond on threads here, and you have noticed, it was because i found some type of attitudes towards another ethnicity innapropriate.
It would be nice for people to be friendly make friends here :)
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If this thread was the only one becoming a battle field amongst folks from Balkans it wouldn't be an issue much. But this happens to every thread regarding Balka ethnicities or their religions. At least "Balkanian bickering" thread will never get off topic wherever it goes. People got offended by this, but it shouldn't be defensive, because it is exactly what happens either in real life or on Eupedia, in Balkanic relations. Perhaps, exactly as parallel to most relationships between siblings in families. :)
 
Angela said:
I know another situation a lot better. A good number of the partisans in my area who harried the German forces in order to provide support for the allies were women. The partisans as a whole were not a huge percentage of the population. How many people of either sex have that kind of courage? The women partisans made a big difference. Some of them did actual fighting, where others gathered intelligence, carried messages, transported weapons, actions for which they were often better suited than the men particularly because they weren't suspected as much. We have video archives where these women recount how, as young girls, most of them, they hid guns in the bike baskets under laundry, or went into the mountains to bring intelligence and food. Some died, yes, after rape and torture. Of those who survived, some became politicians, important in the post war reconstruction of Italian society. I'm not a Communist, but I have tremendous respect for a woman like Nilde Lotti:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilde_Iotti

As for the various Kurdish political groups, I am not qualified to comment on what is accepted in their society, or how much of this is for propaganda purposes. I will tell you, however, that if I were a woman in the Middle East, knowing what these ISIS monsters do to people, including women and children, I would beg, borrow or steal to get my hands on the most deadly weapons available, and I'd learn how to use them. If nothing else, as a mother, I would owe it to my children.
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Angela
Same situation was in ex Yugoslavia during Second World war.

Women partisans had many duties, they were directly involved in the fighting, foster wounded, received into the house and hid partisans, perform logistical tasks, patrolling and so on, their contribution has been immeasurable.

Some women tend to be very brave, especially when defending their homes and families.

Some Muslim scholars noticed that in Muslim world is not used full potential of women, but they cannot change Quran and hadiths.

In human society it is natural that men compete against men, and women against women, but between genders should be cooperation.
 
Garrick said:
Angela
Same situation was in ex Yugoslavia during Second World war.

Women partisans had many duties, they were directly involved in the fighting, foster wounded, received into the house and hid partisans, perform logistical tasks, patrolling and so on, their contribution has been immeasurable.

Some women tend to be very brave, especially when defending their homes and families.

Some Muslim scholars noticed that in Muslim world is not used full potential of women, but they cannot change Quran and hadiths.

In human society it is natural that men compete against men, and women against women, but between genders should be cooperation.
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I am sure that mothers in Islamic countries, like mothers everywhere, would sacrifice themselves for their children if need be. Videos of women throwing themselves in front of or on top of their children to shield them from bullets and machetes should be sufficient proof that extraordinary courage in the protection of one's children is not limited to one race or ethnicity or religion.

The only people who would be competent to judge whether there is something in Islamic theology which discourages women from taking a more aggressive role in situations where their families and communities are being attacked would be those who are scholars of Islamic theology or the history of Islamic countries. However, if the reports from Kurdistan are accurate, there are indeed women in the Middle East who are prepared to take on such a role.
 
What is evident, Kurdish women have shown great courage.

Some of that will go down in the history books.

Certainly, there are parallels (with local specificity) with the participation of women in the Partisan movements during World War II and other movements around the world.
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Article from The Times of India

Kurdish Women Fighters an unprecedented example of equality in Middle East

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ality-in-Middle-East/articleshow/44997135.cms

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