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    Interesting Maps and Graphs



    The Euro-how far would it go?

    This would apply most to retired people or people otherwise living on investment income, because the real barometer for people within a country would be a correlation between this and salaries.

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    Relative income areas in U.S. Just as I thought. California is turning into a majority very poor state with a small wealthy elite. Their policies will only make the disparity greater over time

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    "Ethnicity" in Southern South America by area. I don't know enough about it to say for sure whether it's completely accurate.

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    Political orientation of academics at American universities. With all the indoctrination going on it's a miracle there are any conservative college graduates.

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    The map of South America seems quite adjusted to reality.

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    I agree with you Italouruguayan. The map of South America seems also quite accurate to me, although I will add more europeans in southern Brazil.

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    Obesity in Europe:

    These figures for 2017 are appalling, even for the countries with the lowest percentages.

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    I don't understand why England is an outlier.

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    Homicide rates Europe vs. U.S. I don't understand the figures for the Baltic countries. Can't blame it on firearms, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I don't understand why England is an outlier.
    Because of fast food and other poor eating habits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Because of fast food and other poor eating habits.
    Fundamentally, that isn't the issue - the issue is an extremely strong class system.

    Also, it looks like that's the UK, not England

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Because of fast food and other poor eating habits.


    I really enjoy the Full English Breakfast, but it is certainly fattening. Particularly the sausage. Nevertheless, every once in a while is nice.

    Though personally, I find that I can eat just about anything, as long as I keep the portions and eating times reasonable, and keep active with exercise.

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    Most profitable companies by state.

    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com...State-2014.jpg

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    World map showing countries the size of their population.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    I really enjoy the Full English Breakfast, but it is certainly fattening. Particularly the sausage. Nevertheless, every once in a while is nice.

    Though personally, I find that I can eat just about anything, as long as I keep the portions and eating times reasonable, and keep active with exercise.
    I like it too, although it always upsets my stomach, probably because of all that animal fat and protein at one meal. I don't like the blood pudding, though, or the baked beans when they add them. Their baked beans are really different from American ones: very watery, very sweet sauce.

    I think American food basically derives from British and German food. Their tastes are the same: roast beef, bacon and other pork products, battered and fried fish, fried eggs, very cooked vegetables, pies. From the Germans: roast pork, wieners, sauerkraut etc. Sweets are most like the English ones: sort of bland and lots of sugar. I think German and Austrian desserts, by way of contrast, are the best in the world: very high butter content and not as much sugar.

    Maciamo is on to something: when I see all the British tourists in Florida, they just love fast food. That seems to be all they feed their children. They tell me, in fact, that's one of the reasons they come: their children don't like European (continental) food.

    In terms of calories you have to add the buttered toast as well, and they baste those eggs with the grease from the sausage and bacon. I don't eat that many calories in a day, and that's my animal fat content for two days. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I like it too, although it always upsets my stomach, probably because of all that animal fat and protein at one meal. I don't like the blood pudding, though, or the baked beans when they add them. Their baked beans are really different from American ones: very watery, very sweet sauce.

    I think American food basically derives from British and German food. Their tastes are the same: roast beef, bacon and other pork products, battered and fried fish, fried eggs, very cooked vegetables, pies. From the Germans: roast pork, wieners, sauerkraut etc. Sweets are most like the English ones: sort of bland and lots of sugar. I think German and Austrian desserts, by way of contrast, are the best in the world: very high butter content and not as much sugar.

    Maciamo is on to something: when I see all the British tourists in Florida, they just love fast food. That seems to be all they feed their children. They tell me, in fact, that's one of the reasons they come: their children don't like European (continental) food.

    In terms of calories you have to add the buttered toast as well, and they baste those eggs with the grease from the sausage and bacon. I don't eat that many calories in a day, and that's my animal fat content for two days. :)
    This is an amusing channel I recently ran across: Irish people try....

    I couldn't believe this one. They absolutely ADORE TGI Fridays. I'm not saying it's inedible food, but it's all made at some central factory and then microwaved. You might as well eat frozen tv dinners.



    Other than peanut butter, there doesn't seem to be any American food they don't like, and they seem to particularly love the fast foods, like In and Out Burger etc.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...ows/446405002/

    This has been created by currents depositing it from the shores of the surrounding countries from Asia, North, and South America.

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    I don't understand this cancer rate map for Europe. Anyone have any ideas?

    [IMG][/IMG]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    I don't understand this cancer rate map for Europe. Anyone have any ideas?

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    Which type of cancer is it? Eurostat have maps for many types of cancer, but I couldn't find that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    Which type of cancer is it? Eurostat have maps for many types of cancer, but I couldn't find that one.
    Sorry, I should have copied the whole thing.

    From the caption it seems to be total cancer rates, yes?

    This is the site. After this map, they show lung and breast cancer. Also very interesting. Cigarette smoking and car fumes would be a factor in the former. For the latter I don't know.
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...regional_level

    There are other maps for other diseases. I knew Italy would have a high rate for cardiovascular things. Part is salt intake but I think a lot is just genetic. Look at poor Otzi. :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolan View Post
    World map showing countries the size of their population.

    Nice map, really puts Russia into context

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    Only kidding Angela... here's the actual intended maps:








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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Sorry, I should have copied the whole thing.

    From the caption it seems to be total cancer rates, yes?

    This is the site. After this map, they show lung and breast cancer. Also very interesting. Cigarette smoking and car fumes would be a factor in the former. For the latter I don't know.
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...regional_level

    There are other maps for other diseases. I knew Italy would have a high rate for cardiovascular things. Part is salt intake but I think a lot is just genetic. Look at poor Otzi. :)

    This map shows the death rate from all types of cancer, not the cancer rate. That's very different. The statistics for the cancer rates from the World Cancer Research Fund paint a very different picture, with Ireland, Hungary, the Benelux, France and Scandinavia topping the cancer rates. Yet treatments are better in these countries (except Hungary) so mortality from cancer is lower. One of the main causes of cancer is alcohol consumption and there is some correlation. South Europeans drink less alcohol and get less cancer. Of course genetics, diet and stress level play a role too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    This map shows the death rate from all types of cancer, not the cancer rate. That's very different. The statistics for the cancer rates from the World Cancer Research Fund paint a very different picture, with Ireland, Hungary, the Benelux, France and Scandinavia topping the cancer rates. Yet treatments are better in these countries (except Hungary) so mortality from cancer is lower. One of the main causes of cancer is alcohol consumption and there is some correlation. South Europeans drink less alcohol and get less cancer. Of course genetics, diet and stress level play a role too.
    "Celtic" zone seems to have the highest rates of cancer occurrence, with Greece, Spain, and especially Portugal among the lowest. Italy comes in 24th, just after Sweden.

    Rank Country Age-standardised rate per 100,000
    1 Australia 468.0
    2 New Zealand 438.1
    3 Ireland 373.7
    4 Hungary 368.1
    5 US 352.2
    6 Belgium 345.8
    7 France (metropolitan) 344.1
    8 Denmark 340.4
    9 Norway 337.8
    10 Netherlands 334.1
    11 Canada 334.0
    12 New Caledonia (France) 324.2
    13 UK 319.2
    14 South Korea 313.5
    15 Germany 313.1
    16 Switzerland 311.0
    17 Luxembourg 309.3
    18 Serbia 307.9
    19 Slovenia 304.9
    20 Latvia 302.2
    21 Slovakia 297.5
    22 Czech Republic 296.7
    23 Sweden 294.7
    24 Italy 290.6
    25 Croatia 287.2
    26 Lithuania 285.8
    27 Estonia 283.3
    28 Greece 279.8
    29 Spain 272.3
    30 Finland 266.2
    31 Uruguay 263.4
    32 Belarus 260.7
    33 Portugal 259.5
    34 Iceland 257.8
    35 Guadelopue (France) 254.6
    36 Puerto Rico 254.5
    37 Moldova 254.3
    38 Poland 253.8
    39 Cyprus 250.8
    40 Martinique (France) 250.8
    41 Malta 249.4
    42 Singapore 248.9
    43 Japan 248.0
    44 Austria 247.7
    45 Barbados 247.5
    46 French Guiana 247.0
    47 Bulgaria 242.8
    48 Lebanon 242.8
    49 French Polynesia 240.6
    50 Israel 233.6

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    "After the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was liquidated and disappeared from the map of Europe at the end of the 18th century, and was partitioned by Russia, Prussia, and Austria, Polish activists of the independence movements never consented to the fact and continued to work for the revival of the Polish state. One of the issues pondered about was that of the future boundaries of this state. Initially, the issue was not complicated at all, since it was commonly held that the sole just solution would be the return to the historical boundaries of 1772. In the later period, the awareness arose that this option cannot be realised. This was not only the consequence of the stable and disadvantageous for Poland geopolitical situation in Europe, but also of the ethnic diversification of the territory of the former Commonwealth. That is why various concepts started to appear, concerning the future boundaries of Poland, considering the historical, geopolitical, strategic, and ethnic conditioning. These concepts were primarily the visions of individual scholars or activists, but often they did represent definite ideological and political orientations. The article presents and comments upon some of these designs. Those more original in substantive terms, and containing an interesting cartographic illustration, were selected for presentation. Thusthe article treats the concepts authored by: Oskar Żebrowski, Stanisław Tomaszewski, Aleksander Janowski, Czesław Jankowski, Włodzimierz Wakar, Wiktor Skarga-Dobrowolski, and Jzef Jasklski. These concepts, postulating the shape of boundaries of Poland, differed significantly as to the general territorial reach of the country and the shapes of its boundaries. Some of them were of clear maximalist character, while other ones were more moderate, and so had higher chances of implementation. The two last proposals for the boundaries of Poland, presented in the article, were already the official documents. The first of those two represented the position of the Polish National Committee, which was active in Lausanne in the years 19171918. The last concept of the boundary of Poland, shown in the article, was the official stance of the authorities of the newly re-established Polish state, which was presented at the Peace Conference in Paris in 1919. This concept was developed by Roman Dmowski, who headed Polish delegation at this conference. At the end of the article this most important design, prepared for the Versailles conference, is compared to the actual course of boundaries of the Polish state as it re-emerged after the First World War."

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    This one shows by far the largest area, "Shape of Poland within its Natural Borders", from 1847:



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    The area in the west around Poznań-Gniezno called "Kolebka Polanw" = "Cradle of Poles".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Maps showing concepts of borders of future Poland from the 1800s and first two decades of 1900s:

    http://dspace.uni.lodz.pl:8080/xmlui...7060?show=full

    English Summary:

    "After the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was liquidated and disappeared from the map of Europe at the end of the 18th century, and was partitioned by Russia, Prussia, and Austria, Polish activists of the independence movements never consented to the fact and continued to work for the revival of the Polish state. One of the issues pondered about was that of the future boundaries of this state. Initially, the issue was not complicated at all, since it was commonly held that the sole just solution would be the return to the historical boundaries of 1772. In the later period, the awareness arose that this option cannot be realised. This was not only the consequence of the stable and disadvantageous for Poland geopolitical situation in Europe, but also of the ethnic diversification of the territory of the former Commonwealth. That is why various concepts started to appear, concerning the future boundaries of Poland, considering the historical, geopolitical, strategic, and ethnic conditioning. These concepts were primarily the visions of individual scholars or activists, but often they did represent definite ideological and political orientations. The article presents and comments upon some of these designs. Those more original in substantive terms, and containing an interesting cartographic illustration, were selected for presentation. Thusthe article treats the concepts authored by: Oskar Żebrowski, Stanisław Tomaszewski, Aleksander Janowski, Czesław Jankowski, Włodzimierz Wakar, Wiktor Skarga-Dobrowolski, and J�zef Jask�lski. These concepts, postulating the shape of boundaries of Poland, differed significantly as to the general territorial reach of the country and the shapes of its boundaries. Some of them were of clear maximalist character, while other ones were more moderate, and so had higher chances of implementation. The two last proposals for the boundaries of Poland, presented in the article, were already the official documents. The first of those two represented the position of the Polish National Committee, which was active in Lausanne in the years 1917�1918. The last concept of the boundary of Poland, shown in the article, was the official stance of the authorities of the newly re-established Polish state, which was presented at the Peace Conference in Paris in 1919. This concept was developed by Roman Dmowski, who headed Polish delegation at this conference. At the end of the article this most important design, prepared for the Versailles conference, is compared to the actual course of boundaries of the Polish state as it re-emerged after the First World War."

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    This one shows by far the largest area, "Shape of Poland within its Natural Borders", from 1847:



    ^^^
    The area in the west around Poznań-Gniezno called "Kolebka Polan�w" = "Cradle of Poles".
    Please stop! Did you noticed that people post here geopolitical-statistical maps to interest others in discussions? Do you think anybody here but you is interested in some polish megaloman from the past who dreamed about biggest Poland ever? Screw the Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Moldovans and few others. Long live polish empire.
    Maybe you look at this map with pride and joy and you want to share this happy feeling with others? (wrong thread anyway) Believe me, most people here look with disbelief and horror on your nationalistic fantasies. You are scaring people and making enemies. If this is your goal, then congratulations.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Ukrainians are already screwing themselves better than anyone else could. Also, the Ukrainian Empire* made ethnic Russian minority in Ukraine unhappy (Crimea, Donbass). Same in Moldova (Russians in Transnistria). Do you think that ethnic Russians in Ukraine have the right of self-determination, or no?

    *The largest country fully in Europe which includes many historically, and even currently, Non-Ukrainian lands.

    Screw the Lithuanians
    American experts advised that Poland-Lithuania should be one country again, like before the Partitions:

    https://archive.org/stream/MyDiaryAt.../n239/mode/2up

    Long live polish empire.
    I just posted that map as a fun curiosity, not because I really believe we should have these borders.

    But since you are so paranoid, neurotic and over-reacting every time I post anything. Here we go:

    Where is the Fatherland of a Pole?
    Is it Wielkopolska? Is it Podolia?
    Oh no, no, no!
    Our Fatherland must be bigger!



    Poland was the only country of the victorious Allied coalition in WW2, which ended the war with smaller territory than at the beginning of the war:

    Polish territory in 1939 - 390,000 km2
    Polish territory in 1945 - 312,000 km2 (decline by 78,000 km2, or to 80% of pre-war size)

    ^^^ How come that a country which was, theoretically, among the victors, lost territory?

    Ukrainians still celebrate Bandera and Nazi Ukrainian SS Units - this was in April 2018:



    ^^^
    The current crisis in Ukraine is their own fault, they traded Poles for Russian separatists:


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    This thread is not going to turn into a safe haven for jingoistic propaganda or the same old same old pigmentation obsessions, as per another post upthread.

    I opened it; I'll close it.

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