Do we have any Iberian and Gaul samples of the same era? Roman?
I ran all the Empuries samples for another thread. One is Catalan like, one is French like, one rather Northern European. 18205,18208, and 18215 are "Mycenaean" like. Unfortunately, coordinates don't seem to be available for 18216, which is from the Roman Period. Then there's 18338, also from the Roman period, which is not quite in the Aegean Bronze Age cluster.
I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1,4.28,0.00,0.00,0.16,51.43,35.70,0.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.48,0.97
I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2,1.20,0.00,2.31,0.00,22.09,16.57,0.00,0.00,20.72,2.25,34.86,0.00
I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1,10.54,1.38,0.82,0.29,39.66,38.43,1.88,0.00,1.52,0.00,3.76,1.71
I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2,0.47,0.00,4.06,0.00,36.68,5.45,0.00,0.00,12.64,0.00,40.71,0.00
I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1,6.77,0.00,1.74,0.00,48.23,30.32,0.21,0.60,0.79,0.17,11.18,0.00
I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1,4.28,0.01,0.00,2.21,53.30,32.63,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.31,6.28,0.00
I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1,6.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,56.45,25.38,5.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.27,0.00
I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical,4.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,37.75,47.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.75,0.00
I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1,6.42,0.00,0.00,2.22,55.45,29.43,1.50,0.00,0.00,2.76,2.22,0.00
I8344_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,55.32,34.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.18,1.31
R850_Iron_Age_Ardea,7.30,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0,0.43,14.77,0,40.10,0
R851_Iron_Age_Ardea,1.59,0,1.39,0,49.28,24.97,0,0.14,1.93,0,20.26,0.45
R435_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Colombella,4.84,0.64,0.65,0,47.12,28.54,0.15,0,4.13,0,13.40,0.53
R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata,6.45,0,3.03,0,33.19,11.94,0,0,11.63,0,33.74,0.02
R475_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia,0,0,13.01,0,38.12,12.14,0.37,1.98,11.26,0,22.70,0.42
R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia,7.18,0.17,2.38,0,39.08,25.74,0,0,5.98,0,18.84,0.66
R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia,1.01,0,0.68,0.15,47.26,22.79,0,0.21,7.39,0.21,20.17,0.34
R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia,1.56,0.19,2.85,0,47.15,21.66,0,0,5.46,0,20.85,0
R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro,5.02,1.78,1.33,0,35.08,26.46,0,0,5.43,0,24.50,0.40
R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima,3.86,0.98,1.53,0.19,47.23,20.37,1.43,0,3.31,0,21.10,0
R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica,2.11,0,1.96,0.60,47.70,24.04,0,0,1.33,0,22.26,0
If I run the Empuries samples against R850, the "Cretan like" Iron Age Roman sample, this is what I get. The distances for the "Mycenaean like samples" are 12, 15, and 18.
Distance to: | R850_Iron_Age_Ardea |
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12.18268443 | I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
15.50707903 | 18215_Greek_Empuries |
17.79902525 | I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
46.47271995 | I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
51.43860126 | I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 |
52.38937774 | I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical |
53.93703551 | I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
54.07582824 | I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 |
54.28650293 | I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
55.26607368 | I8344_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
56.66914857 | I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
Against R437, the sample which has about half its ancestry from more "eastern" sources than the other Iron Age Roman and Etruscan samples, the Empuries samples we're looking for are at a distance of 6,12, and 16.
Distance to: | R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata |
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6.98619353 | 18215_Greek_Empuries |
11.86266833 | I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
16.17631602 | I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
34.53527327 | I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
41.37854517 | I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
41.74071394 | I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
42.12581987 | I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 |
42.32467365 | I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 |
42.97417713 | I8344_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
44.20580505 | I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
44.26086420 | I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical |
One sample does better.
Then, against the Latin sample R851, the Empuries ones which matter for this analysis are at 29,33,37.
Distance to: | R851_Iron_Age_Ardea |
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11.87067816 | I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
16.89187971 | I8344_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
17.02914854 | I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
17.99480203 | I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 |
18.60851149 | I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
20.67380226 | I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
25.17323181 | I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 |
27.19949632 | I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical |
29.31806269 | 18215_Greek_Empuries |
32.88316286 | I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
37.18014658 | I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
Against R1016, the one "upper class" Iron Age sample: the Mycenaean like samples are at the bottom.
Distance to: | R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima |
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14.70188083 | I8209_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
20.12314588 | I8211_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
20.71329525 | I8210_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
21.66394470 | I8344_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
21.95384704 | I8202_NE_Iberia_RomP_Empuries1 |
23.20906719 | I8341_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1 |
25.16385702 | 18215_Greek_Empuries |
27.12510461 | I8206_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries1 |
28.74794427 | I8208_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
30.75085202 | I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_Empuries1_atypical |
33.98077692 | I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
Or, we could do it another way. Run each Empuries sample against all the ancient samples. Now that Vahaduo has added all our coordinates under K12b, it's easy.
Distance to: | I8205_NE_Iberia_Hel_Empuries2 |
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10.41409622 | R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis |
10.42940075 | R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis |
11.12061149 | R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
11.17104740 | R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
11.54777901 | R115_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis |
11.71939418 | R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi |
12.18268443 | R850_Iron_Age_Ardea |
12.46934641 | R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio |
12.49862392 | R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
12.52843167 | R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
12.54786834 | R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro |
12.57320166 | R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese |
12.94739356 | R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis |
12.97422059 | R81_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis |
13.34426843 | R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina |
13.35137821 | R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
13.41112225 | R66_Imperial_Era_ANAS |
13.41316890 | R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
13.42639937 | R34_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto |
13.52872130 | R1543_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese |
13.68587593 | R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna |
13.80433990 | R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo |
13.95713438 | R123_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce |
14.02574775 | R1545_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese |
14.05658920 | R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis |
You can do all the others the same way and see if there are differences, but I doubt they'll be really different.