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Any word on when the Danubian Limes samples are coming out? I also have my eye on that one.
maybe he knows
he is one of the main researches
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Any word on when the Danubian Limes samples are coming out? I also have my eye on that one.
Etruscans and Latins were pretty homogenous compared to Daunians, excluding some few outliers. Why would Daunians be more heterogenous than them I don't know.
Take a look at the PCA from the study, ORD001 is west of South Italians (i.e. Mycenaean-like) that is the point of what I was saying about that sample coming out looking wrong in Dodecad K12b probably due to low-coverage. The study does not in any way say it she is modern Croatian-like who are north-east of Northern Italians.
This seems to be driven mostly by the CHG/IN I mentioned earlier. IMHO, the Daunians who only arrived in the late bronze age, were probably not as well mixed with the population at large yet, who I speculate are the main agents of the (Anatolia_N +)CHG/IN admixture. The fact that they mostly get Caucasus instead of Gedrosia is intriguing to me, and I think helps to prove my point.
The father of ORD001 I think is probably one of these Anatolia_N/CHG reach "natives", who lived there prior to the Daunians and Italics.
I suggest you also stop mixing AD samples with BC samples and expect some kind of affinity
I suggest you also stop mixing AD samples with BC samples and expect some kind of affinity
the paper states
For instance, we know that they were
mainly farmers, animal breeders, horsemen and maritime traders with an established trade network
extending across the sea with Illyrian tribes8–10. A fascinating aspect of this population, as opposed
to their neighbours in Apulia, was their tenacious resistance to external influences.
The Daunians maintained strong commercial and political relations with the Illyrian
people, controlling together the area spanning from the Dalmatia to the Gargano peninsula and
had many cultural affinities with them.
they did not mix with their neighbours in Italy ...................I cannot see why people want to or expect them to have mixed with their neighbours the Samnites
We also know they kept trading for the pottery of Dalmatia until 440BC , before deciding to create their own to trade
Furthermore, the Minoan + Catacomb combination which is my main speculation, both existed in the Bronze Age, and went into the same places.First of all, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Also, that is exactly what some people do, when they combine IA samples with Imperial era samples. Why not say that to them?
… how about a Mother and Daughter for affinity, … 1.9 generation, but you would never guess they’re related by looking at the PCA:
I suggest you also stop mixing AD samples with BC samples and expect some kind of affinity
wow......so you have different "care" rates for different people, so your PCA are erred coz there is a "care" factor on how you want it to look?.............so sicilians are more a "care" for you than piedmontese ? ..................what about bretons, any "care" there?Also, it seems that you care more about these people than anyone else here. Despite the fact that these people lived in Puglia, the average Pugliese probably hasn't even heard of them, and I sure wouldn't care much about them that much either. We aren't like idiotic naturalists who think they're reincarnations of hunter-gatherers, or something equally as stupid. For as long as I can remember, people from Puglia think of themselves as having more affinity to Greeks, in addition to the Roman world. Which is exactly what we are.
OKAY, we get it, you don't think they mixed with anyone around them, and I guess just all faded into obscurity. But why then does the same exact paper show mixed individuals among them? ORD001 is stated to be mixed with a person with Eastern influence for ****s sake!
wow......so you have different "care" rates for different people, so your PCA are erred coz there is a "care" factor on how you want it to look?.............so sicilians are more a "care" for you than piedmontese ? ..................what about bretons, any "care" there?
if you are going to look at and study ancient samples.....forget about national borders.
your comments makes me now think that you "doctor" results based on who you care the most about and so reflect your ancestry ............hope this is not the case, but your comments make it lean that way.
it seems to me you are getting ansy because your pca is being questioned by others ..........................yes i questioned it 6 months earlier
Also, it seems that you care more about these people than anyone else here. Despite the fact that these people lived in Puglia, the average Pugliese probably hasn't even heard of them, and I sure wouldn't care much about them that much either. We aren't like idiotic naturalists who think they're reincarnations of hunter-gatherers, or something equally as stupid. For as long as I can remember, people from Puglia think of themselves as having more affinity to Greeks, in addition to the Roman world. Which is exactly what we are.
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