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Genetic study A genetic history of the Balkans from Roman frontier to Slavic migrations
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I looked at the supplementals. Of the 8 E-V13 labeled as Balkan Iron Age, 4 are clearly south Thracian in profile and the other four are something else. One of these is shown as Albanian IA but with a very low feat, and the other three as Croat IA + Aegean IA. I am confident I identified them on the PCA, and 3 fall under the Bassarabi zone, just below Cinamak. One from Viminacium I think is Dacian, it is modeled as 81% IA Croatia and 19% Aegean but the fit is super low and there is not a single Viminacium sample on the PCA that aligns between IA Croatia and BA Aegean.
I15490 - E-CTS1273, South Thracian in profile.
I15504 - E-BY3880, South Thracian in profile.
I15518 - E-CTS1273, South Thracian in profile.
I15554 - E-BY3880, South Thracian in profile.
I15495 - E-CTS9320, this one is the one I think might be a Dacian, in the old PCA graph from the pre-print, this would be the sample that almost plots like a central European.
I15507 - E-BY3880, Bassarabi or half south Thracian, half Dacian
I15544 - E-BY3880, Bassarabi/Moesian local
I15553 - E-CTS1273, Bassarabi/Moesian local
It looks like most E-V13 in Viminacium are south Thracians, and if the authors want to capture local profiles they ought to consider taking samples from smaller settlements in the countryside. In Timacum Minus, only one E-V13 is south Thracian, and the rest are of unique profile, which should be local.
There is also a new E-V13 sample from Komardin, that plots fairly close to South Thracian, but somewhat different which the authors have modeled as half Croatian IA and half BA-IA Aegean. Probably another Dacian-Thracian mixed profile.
And the single R-Z1203 sample that is Balkan IA, seems to be Illyrian, and plots like a Daunian.
I15490 - E-CTS1273, South Thracian in profile.
I15504 - E-BY3880, South Thracian in profile.
I15518 - E-CTS1273, South Thracian in profile.
I15554 - E-BY3880, South Thracian in profile.
I15495 - E-CTS9320, this one is the one I think might be a Dacian, in the old PCA graph from the pre-print, this would be the sample that almost plots like a central European.
I15507 - E-BY3880, Bassarabi or half south Thracian, half Dacian
I15544 - E-BY3880, Bassarabi/Moesian local
I15553 - E-CTS1273, Bassarabi/Moesian local
It looks like most E-V13 in Viminacium are south Thracians, and if the authors want to capture local profiles they ought to consider taking samples from smaller settlements in the countryside. In Timacum Minus, only one E-V13 is south Thracian, and the rest are of unique profile, which should be local.
There is also a new E-V13 sample from Komardin, that plots fairly close to South Thracian, but somewhat different which the authors have modeled as half Croatian IA and half BA-IA Aegean. Probably another Dacian-Thracian mixed profile.
And the single R-Z1203 sample that is Balkan IA, seems to be Illyrian, and plots like a Daunian.
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Which samples are the mena Z2103s.
Do you think dacians plot like central Europeans ?
Omino
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Steppe admixture*
Which is yamnaya+later immigrations
Omino
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He read eastern European ancestry and he understood Slavic
Hahaha but guess what main Greeks have 30 to 40 slavic any ways you assHe read eastern European ancestry and he understood Slavic
He read eastern European ancestry and he understood Slavic
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Omino
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Dude you didn't even read the study,your claims are hilarious and easily debunked
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What propaganda you dumb Greek ? Just accept you have slavic dna
Omino
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That you're brain-dead and can't understand basic English,
they literally write that's not exclusively Slavic but way older.
"Eastern European ancestry was sporadically present in the Balkans long before the Slavic migrations of late antiquity."
Hahaha your so butthurt man your coping so hard. You have Slavic what ever you like or not now leave me alone
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Who said that I don't have any?Are you insane?
I'm saying that you're too delusional to understand the difference between steppe and slavic admixture.
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Can you leave me I don't speak to babies throwing a tantrum
Omino
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Wow that's an excellent self-referential post,bravo my dear
Now could you stop crying and actually read the study?
This is a forum about science
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Well I wasn't the one who started insulting people I am calm my gay bro. Let's stop derailing this thread. If you want to continued this pointless argument move to private conversation
Omino
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You're crying that somehow i insult you(while I just debunked your nonsense) at the same post you call me gay
how old are you my dear?10-12?
Keep your delusions out of this forum
Omino
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You can't even understand what self-referential means?
I'll write it again for one last time:
This is a forum about science,keep your delusions+childish behavior out of here.
I won't waste more time answering your nonsense,when you obviously didn't read the topic of the thread.
Omino
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Claiming such nonsense(Eastern european ancestry=slavic ancestry) when the authors of the study(which you obviously didn't read) literally wrote:
"We present evidence that Eastern European ancestry was sporadically present in the Balkans long before the Slavic migrations of late antiquity. "
