K12b aDNA (Dodecad K12b)

I still have all of the raw data files from many of the studies we processed.

As a raw data file, we can use it for any calculator that takes raw data.

I've endeavored to produce my own calculator a couple years ago with the help of some people, but it never was sufficient/accurate in replicating studies.

If there's ever a new calculator that comes along that accepts raw data, I can replicate much of the data set we have for Dodecad K12b.
 
If I didn't miss anything along the way, at the following link are all the coordinates produced for Dodecad K12b ancient by Eupedia users.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1wWs...nM5DOW8/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword

Mine:

Distance to:Duarte
6.29654667NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10892:Olalde_2019
6.57972074IND006_Germany_North_Rhine-Westphalia_Alt-Inden
6.61713684Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10501
6.83142738NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10895:Olalde_2019
7.15328596SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3585:Olalde_2019
7.40270896SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12516:Olalde_2019
7.51741312SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12514:Olalde_2019
7.61725016Hungary_EarlyArpadian:VPB-118.SG
7.79453013C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R63:Antonio_2019
7.87087035Sardinia_Medieval:SNN002_Sassari_SAS_San-Nicoa-Necropoi-Esterna
7.96743999SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019
7.98827891NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10852:Olalde_2019
8.16516381Croatia_Sipar_Roman:R2045
8.29179112Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman:R10487
8.29628230SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019
8.33679795Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10502
8.49862342I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.54598151HRV_Cetina_BA_outlier:I19031
8.57093927Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
8.65500433SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I3982:Olalde_2019
8.79383307NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I7675:Olalde_2019
8.80258485Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10508
8.85043502NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10853:Olalde_2019
8.94111291NE_Iberia_BA:I1313:Olalde_2019
8.99556557C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.4356% / 0.43555888 | R2P
74.8SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
25.2Scotland_CA_EBA

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.1801% / 0.18010938 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.0MNE_LBA_outlier
22.9SE_Iberia_c5-8CE
15.9CSN012
14.6I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.0I16456_d_F_England_IA_lc_cov-0%
2.7I16412_d_M_Scotland_EBA_lc_cov-0%
2.4Vestonice13
2.3SE_Iberia_c10-16CE_Afr2
0.2NE_Iberia_RomP_out

 
Duarte said:
If I didn't miss anything along the way, at the following link are all the coordinates produced for Dodecad K12b ancient by Eupedia users.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1wWs...nM5DOW8/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword

Mine:

Distance to:Duarte
6.29654667NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10892:Olalde_2019
6.57972074IND006_Germany_North_Rhine-Westphalia_Alt-Inden
6.61713684Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10501
6.83142738NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10895:Olalde_2019
7.15328596SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3585:Olalde_2019
7.40270896SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12516:Olalde_2019
7.51741312SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12514:Olalde_2019
7.61725016Hungary_EarlyArpadian:VPB-118.SG
7.79453013C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R63:Antonio_2019
7.87087035Sardinia_Medieval:SNN002_Sassari_SAS_San-Nicoa-Necropoi-Esterna
7.96743999SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019
7.98827891NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10852:Olalde_2019
8.16516381Croatia_Sipar_Roman:R2045
8.29179112Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman:R10487
8.29628230SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019
8.33679795Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10502
8.49862342I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.54598151HRV_Cetina_BA_outlier:I19031
8.57093927Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
8.65500433SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I3982:Olalde_2019
8.79383307NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I7675:Olalde_2019
8.80258485Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10508
8.85043502NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10853:Olalde_2019
8.94111291NE_Iberia_BA:I1313:Olalde_2019
8.99556557C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.4356% / 0.43555888 | R2P
74.8SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
25.2Scotland_CA_EBA

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.1801% / 0.18010938 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.0MNE_LBA_outlier
22.9SE_Iberia_c5-8CE
15.9CSN012
14.6I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.0I16456_d_F_England_IA_lc_cov-0%
2.7I16412_d_M_Scotland_EBA_lc_cov-0%
2.4Vestonice13
2.3SE_Iberia_c10-16CE_Afr2
0.2NE_Iberia_RomP_out

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Excellent! (y)
 
Distance to:Jovialis
2.77221933HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
2.93676693Hungary_MidAvar:SZK-180.SG
3.25777531C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
3.28435686C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
3.31691121HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
3.32683032C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
3.33595564Italy_PalazzoDellaCancelleria_Roman_Medieval_possible:R1292
3.39439243Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
3.51115366C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
3.64458502TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
3.67854591C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
3.82032721HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
3.89204317C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
4.07025798Collegno121:Amorim_2018
4.09070899VEN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.15604379VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.19606959C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
4.29329710C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
4.37202470C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
4.44950559C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
4.56582961Hungary_LateAvar:KK1-368.SG
4.69323982C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
4.83184230Croatia_Velic_Roman:R3685
4.94448177Croatia_NovoSeloBunje_Roman:R3547
4.95721696C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019

 
Duarte said:
If I didn't miss anything along the way, at the following link are all the coordinates produced for Dodecad K12b ancient by Eupedia users.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1wWs...nM5DOW8/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword

Mine:

Distance to:Duarte
6.29654667NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10892:Olalde_2019
6.57972074IND006_Germany_North_Rhine-Westphalia_Alt-Inden
6.61713684Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10501
6.83142738NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10895:Olalde_2019
7.15328596SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3585:Olalde_2019
7.40270896SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12516:Olalde_2019
7.51741312SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12514:Olalde_2019
7.61725016Hungary_EarlyArpadian:VPB-118.SG
7.79453013C7-Villa_Magna_MA:R63:Antonio_2019
7.87087035Sardinia_Medieval:SNN002_Sassari_SAS_San-Nicoa-Necropoi-Esterna
7.96743999SE_Iberia_c5-8CE:I3981:Olalde_2019
7.98827891NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10852:Olalde_2019
8.16516381Croatia_Sipar_Roman:R2045
8.29179112Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman:R10487
8.29628230SE_Iberia_c10-16CE:I12649:Olalde_2019
8.33679795Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10502
8.49862342I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.54598151HRV_Cetina_BA_outlier:I19031
8.57093927Crusader_Pit:SI40:Haber_2019
8.65500433SE_Iberia_c3-4CE:I3982:Olalde_2019
8.79383307NE_Iberia_c6-8CE_ES:I7675:Olalde_2019
8.80258485Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman:R10508
8.85043502NE_Iberia_c8-12CE:I10853:Olalde_2019
8.94111291NE_Iberia_BA:I1313:Olalde_2019
8.99556557C7-Crypta_Balbi_Late_Antiquity:R110:Antonio_2019

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.4356% / 0.43555888 | R2P
74.8SE_Iberia_c10-16CE
25.2Scotland_CA_EBA

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.1801% / 0.18010938 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.0MNE_LBA_outlier
22.9SE_Iberia_c5-8CE
15.9CSN012
14.6I16792_F_France_BA_cov-1%
8.0I16456_d_F_England_IA_lc_cov-0%
2.7I16412_d_M_Scotland_EBA_lc_cov-0%
2.4Vestonice13
2.3SE_Iberia_c10-16CE_Afr2
0.2NE_Iberia_RomP_out

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Linked it in the OP.
 
For science I pasted all 3600+ samples into the calculator. I broke it with the 2way calculation haha.
 
Jovialis said:
The current update is actually missing a lot of new content made by Salento/Duarte et al.

I'd like to get all of it together, but we need to compile it all.
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Are there any more dodecadk12b coords for ancient and Modern Egyptians?
All I have are these:

Code: 
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134,0.83,0,8.24,0,15.48,0,0,6.5,32.25,0,36.69,0
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2888,0.23,0,10.62,0,15.29,0,0,6.3,32.71,0,34.85,0
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2911,1.61,0.82,7.99,0.95,12.77,0,0.32,6.44,33.51,0.06,35.53,0
Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod,1.25,0.72,8.98,0.21,12.96,0,0.2,6.39,32.91,0,36.37,0
Egyptian_Mummies,0.41,1.02,9.59,0.00,11.77,0.00,0.03,4.45,35.25,0.09,37.40,0.00

Also are there any more ancient near east north african samples besides the Iberomaurusians and the Roman/IA era Tunisians, Algerians?
Would be very nice to have more Hittite and Assyrian samples too.
 
qh777 said:
Are there any more dodecadk12b coords for ancient and Modern Egyptians?
All I have are these:

Code: 
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134,0.83,0,8.24,0,15.48,0,0,6.5,32.25,0,36.69,0
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2888,0.23,0,10.62,0,15.29,0,0,6.3,32.71,0,34.85,0
BA_Ancient_Egyptian:JK2911,1.61,0.82,7.99,0.95,12.77,0,0.32,6.44,33.51,0.06,35.53,0
Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod,1.25,0.72,8.98,0.21,12.96,0,0.2,6.39,32.91,0,36.37,0
Egyptian_Mummies,0.41,1.02,9.59,0.00,11.77,0.00,0.03,4.45,35.25,0.09,37.40,0.00

Also are there any more ancient near east north african samples besides the Iberomaurusians and the Roman/IA era Tunisians, Algerians?
Would be very nice to have more Hittite and Assyrian samples too.
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Here's the standard Dodecad K12b Egyptian aggregate.

Unfortunately, we don't have individual academic samples from modern people yet.

Code: 
Egyptans,2.70,0.00,10.91,0.30,9.01,0.00,0.00,12.21,29.73,0.00,30.33,4.80
 
This is interesting, out out all the 6,682 aDNA samples, egyptians are still closest too Ancient Egyptians, albeit a fit of 11+

Distance to:Egyptans
11.07764867Ancient_Egyptian:JK2911:Schuenemann_2017
11.20280322Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod
11.53222875Ancient_Egyptian:JK2888:Schuenemann_2017
11.81758012TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
12.45073492Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134:Schuenemann_2017
13.67833323Ashkelon_IA2:ASH135:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
13.97627275TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
14.07196148TUR_Aegean_Bodrum_Halikarnassos_Anc2:I3303
14.480935743DT26:Martiniano_2016
14.91621936ISR_Natufian_EpiP:I1685_d
15.15605819JOR_PPNB:I1701
15.32033616Jordan_PPNB:I1701_enhanced
16.17897710Levant_N:I1699:Lazaridis_2016
17.40855824Levant_N:I1707:Lazaridis_2016
17.45178214JOR_PPNC:I1679
17.48087526JOR_PPNB:I1414
17.53173694Levant_(Ba'ja)_N:BAJ001_BAJ001:Feldman_2019_(Mar.)
17.55997153Ashkelon_IA2:ASH087:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
17.56664453Ashkelon_LBA:ASH029:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
17.59881530Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1165:Harney_2018
17.61396321Jordan_PPNB:I1414_enhanced
17.93478185Jordan_PPNB:I1709_enhanced
17.97411194Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1166:Harney_2018
18.00459386JOR_PPNB:I1709
18.02743465Jordan_PPNC:I1679_enhanced


Here's a quick and easy model I did with the Ancient Egyptians you posted, with ancient Africans.

About 15% aSSA improves the fit, but there's likely something better for the model:

uZT6XmL.png
 
Duarte said:
And many thanks to you too Jovialis. More than 6000 coordinates were produced by the two of you together. This is spectacular.
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Right, but it wouldn't have mattered had you not documented all of it, and kept in it order. That's a huge contribution. :beer1:
 
Jovialis said:
HOLY COW! 6,682 aDNA samples!

Seriously, hats off to Duarte, and Salento. You guys doubled the amount.

The file I posted had only 3,629
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100% agree with Jovialis: To Duarte and Salento, a job very well done.

Thanks for your efforts.
 
Jovialis said:
This is interesting, out out all the 6,682 aDNA samples, egyptians are still closest too Ancient Egyptians, albeit a fit of 11+

Distance to:Egyptans
11.07764867Ancient_Egyptian:JK2911:Schuenemann_2017
11.20280322Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod
11.53222875Ancient_Egyptian:JK2888:Schuenemann_2017
11.81758012TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
12.45073492Ancient_Egyptian:JK2134:Schuenemann_2017
13.67833323Ashkelon_IA2:ASH135:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
13.97627275TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
14.07196148TUR_Aegean_Bodrum_Halikarnassos_Anc2:I3303
14.480935743DT26:Martiniano_2016
14.91621936ISR_Natufian_EpiP:I1685_d
15.15605819JOR_PPNB:I1701
15.32033616Jordan_PPNB:I1701_enhanced
16.17897710Levant_N:I1699:Lazaridis_2016
17.40855824Levant_N:I1707:Lazaridis_2016
17.45178214JOR_PPNC:I1679
17.48087526JOR_PPNB:I1414
17.53173694Levant_(Ba'ja)_N:BAJ001_BAJ001:Feldman_2019_(Mar.)
17.55997153Ashkelon_IA2:ASH087:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
17.56664453Ashkelon_LBA:ASH029:Feldman_2019_(Jul.)
17.59881530Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1165:Harney_2018
17.61396321Jordan_PPNB:I1414_enhanced
17.93478185Jordan_PPNB:I1709_enhanced
17.97411194Peqi’in_Cave_Upper_Galilee_ChL_Levant:I1166:Harney_2018
18.00459386JOR_PPNB:I1709
18.02743465Jordan_PPNC:I1679_enhanced

Here's a quick and easy model I did with the Ancient Egyptians you posted, with ancient Africans.

About 15% aSSA improves the fit, but there's likely something better for the model:

uZT6XmL.png
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Jovialis: thanks for the analysis. Seems in line with what Schuenemann et al 2017 reported in there paper.
 
Jovialis said:
Here's the standard Dodecad K12b Egyptian aggregate.

Unfortunately, we don't have individual academic samples from modern people yet.

Code: 
Egyptans,2.70,0.00,10.91,0.30,9.01,0.00,0.00,12.21,29.73,0.00,30.33,4.80
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Thanks Jovialis!
I guess in time there will be more.
Has Nakht Ankh been converted to Dodecadk12b? or is he one of the 3 BA_Egyptian samples?
 
qh777 said:
Thanks Jovialis!
I guess in time there will be more.
Has Nakht Ankh been converted to Dodecadk12b? or is he one of the 3 BA_Egyptian samples?
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Not sure, but I know the JK samples are from the study Palermo mentioned.
 
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