Ancestry DNA Update

Updated July 2021

… with each update they strip away a piece of Italy from me, I started around 80%, maybe next update it will start going up again :)

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interesting..................clicking on each noted area , gives me my closest matches

for North Italy it has surnames ....Torresan and Stangherlin.......both distant relatives !!!


just got the new admixture

up by 3% from post #77 for north italian


 
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MyHeritage:

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older (imho better) estimate … 75% Italy … range 71-100%

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… current 23andme:

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Mine. Sad, though, that it's not as accurate at pinpointing Parma and the Lunigiana.

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My New Ancestry Updated Results: Last result was 89% South Italy, 9% Greek/Albanian and 2% Norwegian (which I think was either noise or some Normal signal being picked up then). New Results increase my Greek/Albanian along with Aegean to 14%, not surprising, and still is showing the Norman signal of 2% (which might still be noise).

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I don't even think it is necessarily due to Northern Italian input into Greek islands. But rather the AncestryDNA algorithm is scrambling the components because there is so much ancient ancestry overlap in the Greek/Balkan/South Italian regions. They all come from the pan-Mediterranean genetic continuum described in Aneli et al 2021, and further supported by Sarno et al 2021, and Olalde et al 2021. You and I are 100% (or at least close to) from Puglia, in the modern sense.


All four of my grandparents come from the same region, and all four of theirs' did as well.
 
I don't even think it is necessarily due to Northern Italian input into Greek islands. But rather the AncestryDNA algorithm is scrambling the components because there is so much ancient ancestry overlap in the Greek/Balkan/South Italian regions. They all come from the pan-Mediterranean genetic continuum described in Aneli et al 2021, and further supported by Sarno et al 2021, and Olalde et al 2021. You and I are 100% (or at least close to) from Puglia, in the modern sense.


All four of my grandparents come from the same region, and all four of theirs' did as well.

We have no family history of ever coming from anywhere other than Puglia.

All my grandparents and their grandparents were born in the province of Lecce.

… as a kid I remember seeing a land record document (catasto), and it went back a couple of hundred years.
 
I mixed modern and ancient Dodecad K12b samples (Vahaduo site) and added the sample below (credit to Jovialis, ...S)

… my top ancient range: 820 AD - 1430 AD

top 10:
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Code:
ETR001,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
ETR003,10.36,0,2.55,0,30.58,19.47,0,0,10.98,0,25.66,0.41
ETR004,17.44,0,0,0,19.59,19.63,0,0,11.7,0,31.64,0
ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
ETR006,3.87,1.22,0,0,39.39,15.01,0,0,12.67,0,26.45,1.39
ETR007,5.51,0,2.37,1.28,30.11,25.01,0,0,8.81,0,26.92,0
ETR010,4.58,0.05,1.08,0.22,37.3,17.15,0.08,0,9.4,0,29.53,0.6
ETR012,17.52,1.96,0,0,41.58,12.98,3.45,0.35,5.74,0,16.42,0
ETR013,6.64,0.06,1.86,0,35.44,14.98,0,0,9.51,0,31.24,0.28
ETR014,3.51,0,2.87,0,27.31,14.86,0.51,0,14.53,0,36.4,0
MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
MAS002,6.49,1.52,3.63,0,23.56,7.82,0,0.48,18.33,0.02,38.16,0
MAS003,2.81,0,8.6,1.47,34.71,11.66,0,1.28,11.86,0,26.84,0.76
MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
POP001,4.72,0.15,0.86,0,35.02,19.76,0,0,8.74,1.36,28.84,0.55
PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
TAQ003,5.6,0,2.14,1.3,29.31,17.09,0.1,0.93,11.36,0,31.59,0.58
TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
TAQ009,4.13,0.23,2.43,0.82,33.16,19.69,0.14,0,9.54,0,28.81,1.06
TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
TAQ011,6.51,0.15,1.38,0.03,33.17,19.02,0,1.09,10.21,0,27.5,0.96
TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
TAQ020,9.02,0.66,1.49,0.5,34.13,18.73,0.12,0,7.43,0,27.92,0
TAQ021,3.74,0,2.51,0,33.22,11.47,2.01,0,12.62,0,34.44,0
TAQ022,5.66,0,2.84,0,34.54,19.74,2.22,0,6.34,0,28.11,0.54
TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
VEN001,5.14,0,3.87,0.01,28.18,17.6,0,0,11.33,2.38,29.77,1.73
VEN002,2.79,8.01,0,12.59,16.3,9.93,3.89,0.01,6.34,27.43,12.71,0
VEN005,6.66,0,4.28,1.53,32.55,10.92,0,0,10.86,0.37,32.83,0
VEN006,8.51,0.54,5.29,0.22,27.14,16.32,0,0,9.76,1.99,30.08,0.16
VEN008,4.55,6.58,0,0,36.17,16.54,2.72,0,8.77,0,23.04,1.63
VEN009,4.96,0,10.9,0.28,29.02,16.26,0,3.03,6.57,0,28.99,0
VEN010,16.14,0,2.12,1.09,37.1,15.42,0,0.05,13.2,0,14.88,0
VEN012,2.86,0,1.41,0.17,24.58,14.71,0,1.75,12.7,5.77,36.03,0.03
VEN013,7.7,0,5.12,0,28.43,14.81,0,0,10.94,1.22,30.32,1.45
VEN014,12.68,0,5.83,0,33.04,0,0,0.24,17.71,1.35,28.74,0.42
VEN015,7.16,0,3.85,0.73,28.62,13.96,0.39,0,13.73,0,30.9,0.64
VEN016,6.56,0,6.02,0,25.63,16.98,0,0,13.65,0.44,30.73,0
VEN017,1.13,1.55,0,0.12,32.91,17.47,3.75,0,12.37,3.07,27.62,0
VEN018,9.33,0,3.69,0,27.33,17.18,0,0,19.59,0,20.74,2.14
VEN021,8.65,0,0.51,3.3,17.54,14.06,0,2.43,21.68,1.47,30.37,0
VEN022,7.04,0,0,5.28,15.13,25.83,0,0.13,20.82,0,25.77,0
VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
BRC001_023,0,0,3.47,0,54.97,4.94,0,0.75,9.95,0,24.98,0.94
BRC002,0.87,0,1.36,0,45.47,25.27,2.32,0,4.39,0,18.99,1.33
BRC003,1.48,0,2.35,1.33,46.70,24.27,0,0,5.74,0,17.40,0.74
BRC007_019,3.5,0,1.75,0.58,48.28,18.96,0,0,9.11,0.52,16.2,1.1
BRC010_018,0,0,5.13,0.5,47.79,19.51,0,0,7.86,0,18.69,0.51
BRC011,0,0,0,0,37.8,0,0,0,42.9,0,19.29,0
BRC012,0,15.45,0,0,40.8,0,0,0,43.74,0,0,0
BRC013,0,0,6.28,0,57.75,0,0,0,6.97,0,29,0
BRC022,0,0,0,0.94,62.87,3.14,0,0,10.14,0,22.91,0
BRC024,0,0,0,0,52.32,30.37,0,5.35,0,0,10.84,1.12
GCP002A1,2.18,0,3.15,3.26,44.5,29.77,0,0,5.27,0,11.87,0
GCP003A1,7.58,1.55,0.86,0,49.29,22.95,0,0,4.32,0,13.45,0
GCP004A1,22.15,0,0,0,37.5,23.7,6.64,0,10.01,0,0,0
GLR001A1,0,1.77,4.40,0,58.27,5.15,0,0,11.05,0.22,17.72,1.41
GLR002A1,0,0,6.65,0,63.81,1.89,0,0,5.79,0,21.86,0
GLR003B1,0,0,9.49,4.97,65.66,0,0,0,0,0,17.94,1.93
LSC002_004,0,0,0,0,62.94,2.45,0,0,6.28,0,26.23,2.11
LSC005A1_013,0,0,2.64,1.84,57.50,6.67,0,0,9.34,0,21.45,0.55
LSC007A1,0,0,0,0,95.95,0,0,0.6,3.45,0,0,0
LSC011A1,0,0,8.94,0,53.32,7.47,0,0,14.31,0,15.96,0
LSC012A1,0,0,0,0,97.48,0,0,0,0,2.52,0,0
VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/
 
I don't even think it is necessarily due to Northern Italian input into Greek islands. But rather the AncestryDNA algorithm is scrambling the components because there is so much ancient ancestry overlap in the Greek/Balkan/South Italian regions. They all come from the pan-Mediterranean genetic continuum described in Aneli et al 2021, and further supported by Sarno et al 2021, and Olalde et al 2021. You and I are 100% (or at least close to) from Puglia, in the modern sense.


All four of my grandparents come from the same region, and all four of theirs' did as well.

That's exactly right. Elite administrators of a ruling power, given their small numbers, are never going to change the autosomal make-up of the colonies. Did the English make Indians English like, even after centuries of rule?

Originally, ancestry had Southern Italy, Greece and Albania as one cluster. They are still operating under that paradigm. It's just that they're giving "precedence" to Greece, so Southern Italians have a lot of "Greek". If they gave "precedence" to Southern Italian, Greeks would have a lot of Southern Italian. Indeed, in some earlier editions, that's exactly what happened: a lot of Greeks found to their surprise that they had a lot of Southern Italian in them.

Una faccia, una razza indeed. :)

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With the latest update 2 of my friends went from 2 or 3% to 0% Balkan and 100% Albania and Greece.

What did that 2-3% Balkan mean anyway?
 
With the latest update 2 of my friends went from 2 or 3% to 0% Balkan and 100% Albania and Greece.

What did that 2-3% Balkan mean anyway?


in AncestryDNA balkans means

The Balkan DNA region ( Croatia and Bosnia/Herzegovina ) is bordered by the Adriatic Sea to the west, countries including Romania and Hungary to the North and the Black Sea to the east. The Balkan Mountain Range stretches from near the Timbok River valley near the border that Serbia and Bulgaria share all the way to the beautiful cliffs at Cape Emine at the Black Sea.

......................it does not include ashkenazi jews nor Bulgars which came from the north-Caucasus...................it does include slavs

In the past it included Kosovo and Serbia but I am not sure it does in this latest data



But looking at what they gave me for my Balkans ............it has Serbia and Bulgaria ........but does NOT include Kosovo
 
I mixed modern and ancient Dodecad K12b samples (Vahaduo site) and added the sample below (credit to Jovialis, ...S)

… my top ancient range: 820 AD - 1430 AD

top 10:
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Code:
ETR001,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
ETR003,10.36,0,2.55,0,30.58,19.47,0,0,10.98,0,25.66,0.41
ETR004,17.44,0,0,0,19.59,19.63,0,0,11.7,0,31.64,0
ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
ETR006,3.87,1.22,0,0,39.39,15.01,0,0,12.67,0,26.45,1.39
ETR007,5.51,0,2.37,1.28,30.11,25.01,0,0,8.81,0,26.92,0
ETR010,4.58,0.05,1.08,0.22,37.3,17.15,0.08,0,9.4,0,29.53,0.6
ETR012,17.52,1.96,0,0,41.58,12.98,3.45,0.35,5.74,0,16.42,0
ETR013,6.64,0.06,1.86,0,35.44,14.98,0,0,9.51,0,31.24,0.28
ETR014,3.51,0,2.87,0,27.31,14.86,0.51,0,14.53,0,36.4,0
MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
MAS002,6.49,1.52,3.63,0,23.56,7.82,0,0.48,18.33,0.02,38.16,0
MAS003,2.81,0,8.6,1.47,34.71,11.66,0,1.28,11.86,0,26.84,0.76
MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
POP001,4.72,0.15,0.86,0,35.02,19.76,0,0,8.74,1.36,28.84,0.55
PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
TAQ003,5.6,0,2.14,1.3,29.31,17.09,0.1,0.93,11.36,0,31.59,0.58
TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
TAQ009,4.13,0.23,2.43,0.82,33.16,19.69,0.14,0,9.54,0,28.81,1.06
TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
TAQ011,6.51,0.15,1.38,0.03,33.17,19.02,0,1.09,10.21,0,27.5,0.96
TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
TAQ020,9.02,0.66,1.49,0.5,34.13,18.73,0.12,0,7.43,0,27.92,0
TAQ021,3.74,0,2.51,0,33.22,11.47,2.01,0,12.62,0,34.44,0
TAQ022,5.66,0,2.84,0,34.54,19.74,2.22,0,6.34,0,28.11,0.54
TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
VEN001,5.14,0,3.87,0.01,28.18,17.6,0,0,11.33,2.38,29.77,1.73
VEN002,2.79,8.01,0,12.59,16.3,9.93,3.89,0.01,6.34,27.43,12.71,0
VEN005,6.66,0,4.28,1.53,32.55,10.92,0,0,10.86,0.37,32.83,0
VEN006,8.51,0.54,5.29,0.22,27.14,16.32,0,0,9.76,1.99,30.08,0.16
VEN008,4.55,6.58,0,0,36.17,16.54,2.72,0,8.77,0,23.04,1.63
VEN009,4.96,0,10.9,0.28,29.02,16.26,0,3.03,6.57,0,28.99,0
VEN010,16.14,0,2.12,1.09,37.1,15.42,0,0.05,13.2,0,14.88,0
VEN012,2.86,0,1.41,0.17,24.58,14.71,0,1.75,12.7,5.77,36.03,0.03
VEN013,7.7,0,5.12,0,28.43,14.81,0,0,10.94,1.22,30.32,1.45
VEN014,12.68,0,5.83,0,33.04,0,0,0.24,17.71,1.35,28.74,0.42
VEN015,7.16,0,3.85,0.73,28.62,13.96,0.39,0,13.73,0,30.9,0.64
VEN016,6.56,0,6.02,0,25.63,16.98,0,0,13.65,0.44,30.73,0
VEN017,1.13,1.55,0,0.12,32.91,17.47,3.75,0,12.37,3.07,27.62,0
VEN018,9.33,0,3.69,0,27.33,17.18,0,0,19.59,0,20.74,2.14
VEN021,8.65,0,0.51,3.3,17.54,14.06,0,2.43,21.68,1.47,30.37,0
VEN022,7.04,0,0,5.28,15.13,25.83,0,0.13,20.82,0,25.77,0
VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
BRC001_023,0,0,3.47,0,54.97,4.94,0,0.75,9.95,0,24.98,0.94
BRC002,0.87,0,1.36,0,45.47,25.27,2.32,0,4.39,0,18.99,1.33
BRC003,1.48,0,2.35,1.33,46.70,24.27,0,0,5.74,0,17.40,0.74
BRC007_019,3.5,0,1.75,0.58,48.28,18.96,0,0,9.11,0.52,16.2,1.1
BRC010_018,0,0,5.13,0.5,47.79,19.51,0,0,7.86,0,18.69,0.51
BRC011,0,0,0,0,37.8,0,0,0,42.9,0,19.29,0
BRC012,0,15.45,0,0,40.8,0,0,0,43.74,0,0,0
BRC013,0,0,6.28,0,57.75,0,0,0,6.97,0,29,0
BRC022,0,0,0,0.94,62.87,3.14,0,0,10.14,0,22.91,0
BRC024,0,0,0,0,52.32,30.37,0,5.35,0,0,10.84,1.12
GCP002A1,2.18,0,3.15,3.26,44.5,29.77,0,0,5.27,0,11.87,0
GCP003A1,7.58,1.55,0.86,0,49.29,22.95,0,0,4.32,0,13.45,0
GCP004A1,22.15,0,0,0,37.5,23.7,6.64,0,10.01,0,0,0
GLR001A1,0,1.77,4.40,0,58.27,5.15,0,0,11.05,0.22,17.72,1.41
GLR002A1,0,0,6.65,0,63.81,1.89,0,0,5.79,0,21.86,0
GLR003B1,0,0,9.49,4.97,65.66,0,0,0,0,0,17.94,1.93
LSC002_004,0,0,0,0,62.94,2.45,0,0,6.28,0,26.23,2.11
LSC005A1_013,0,0,2.64,1.84,57.50,6.67,0,0,9.34,0,21.45,0.55
LSC007A1,0,0,0,0,95.95,0,0,0.6,3.45,0,0,0
LSC011A1,0,0,8.94,0,53.32,7.47,0,0,14.31,0,15.96,0
LSC012A1,0,0,0,0,97.48,0,0,0,0,2.52,0,0
VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14

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Distance to:Torziok12b
5.35530487VK538_Dod_K12b
7.47945854CSN005
7.77274083CSN009
8.85378450CSN008
9.41315569ETR007
9.57447649VET001
9.89305312MAS001
10.99554455TAQ006
11.05177814CAM002
11.17633214VOL001
11.32613350TAQ022
11.63097588CSN006
11.80943267CSN010
11.86362508MAS004
11.98595845TAQ020
12.05735460POP001
12.13428201CSN013
12.20780898TAQ011
12.30322722BRC002
12.54692393ETR003
12.64932014TAQ009
12.85277402CSN002
13.01492220TAQ016
13.27414027CSN001
13.36240248TAQ015

my results only for your additions



with your total results

Distance to:Torziok12b
1.89726118R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.40054542
I4331_Balkans_BronzeAge
4.63928874R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
4.65137614R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
4.82277928Collegno23
4.86300319R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.02880702I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge
5.15625833R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
6.00532264Szolad28
6.35530487VK538_Dod_K12b
6.41286208France_IA_NOR3-15
6.56872895France_IA_ERS88
6.60955369Collegno49
6.88000000I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
6.93799683Collegno94
7.28685117R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
7.47945854CSN005
7.57478052I3313_Balkans_BronzeAge
7.62312272Collegno57
7.70831369Collegno36
7.72828571Collegno47
7.77274083CSN009
7.79092421GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
7.86207988R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
7.88022842R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
 
I mixed modern and ancient Dodecad K12b samples (Vahaduo site) and added the sample below (credit to Jovialis, ...S)

… my top ancient range: 820 AD - 1430 AD

top 10:
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Code:
ETR001,8.19,0,2.62,0.45,33.92,11.31,0,0,12.02,0,31.49,0
CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
ETR003,10.36,0,2.55,0,30.58,19.47,0,0,10.98,0,25.66,0.41
ETR004,17.44,0,0,0,19.59,19.63,0,0,11.7,0,31.64,0
ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
ETR006,3.87,1.22,0,0,39.39,15.01,0,0,12.67,0,26.45,1.39
ETR007,5.51,0,2.37,1.28,30.11,25.01,0,0,8.81,0,26.92,0
ETR010,4.58,0.05,1.08,0.22,37.3,17.15,0.08,0,9.4,0,29.53,0.6
ETR012,17.52,1.96,0,0,41.58,12.98,3.45,0.35,5.74,0,16.42,0
ETR013,6.64,0.06,1.86,0,35.44,14.98,0,0,9.51,0,31.24,0.28
ETR014,3.51,0,2.87,0,27.31,14.86,0.51,0,14.53,0,36.4,0
MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
MAS002,6.49,1.52,3.63,0,23.56,7.82,0,0.48,18.33,0.02,38.16,0
MAS003,2.81,0,8.6,1.47,34.71,11.66,0,1.28,11.86,0,26.84,0.76
MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
POP001,4.72,0.15,0.86,0,35.02,19.76,0,0,8.74,1.36,28.84,0.55
PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
TAQ003,5.6,0,2.14,1.3,29.31,17.09,0.1,0.93,11.36,0,31.59,0.58
TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
TAQ009,4.13,0.23,2.43,0.82,33.16,19.69,0.14,0,9.54,0,28.81,1.06
TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
TAQ011,6.51,0.15,1.38,0.03,33.17,19.02,0,1.09,10.21,0,27.5,0.96
TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
TAQ020,9.02,0.66,1.49,0.5,34.13,18.73,0.12,0,7.43,0,27.92,0
TAQ021,3.74,0,2.51,0,33.22,11.47,2.01,0,12.62,0,34.44,0
TAQ022,5.66,0,2.84,0,34.54,19.74,2.22,0,6.34,0,28.11,0.54
TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
VEN001,5.14,0,3.87,0.01,28.18,17.6,0,0,11.33,2.38,29.77,1.73
VEN002,2.79,8.01,0,12.59,16.3,9.93,3.89,0.01,6.34,27.43,12.71,0
VEN005,6.66,0,4.28,1.53,32.55,10.92,0,0,10.86,0.37,32.83,0
VEN006,8.51,0.54,5.29,0.22,27.14,16.32,0,0,9.76,1.99,30.08,0.16
VEN008,4.55,6.58,0,0,36.17,16.54,2.72,0,8.77,0,23.04,1.63
VEN009,4.96,0,10.9,0.28,29.02,16.26,0,3.03,6.57,0,28.99,0
VEN010,16.14,0,2.12,1.09,37.1,15.42,0,0.05,13.2,0,14.88,0
VEN012,2.86,0,1.41,0.17,24.58,14.71,0,1.75,12.7,5.77,36.03,0.03
VEN013,7.7,0,5.12,0,28.43,14.81,0,0,10.94,1.22,30.32,1.45
VEN014,12.68,0,5.83,0,33.04,0,0,0.24,17.71,1.35,28.74,0.42
VEN015,7.16,0,3.85,0.73,28.62,13.96,0.39,0,13.73,0,30.9,0.64
VEN016,6.56,0,6.02,0,25.63,16.98,0,0,13.65,0.44,30.73,0
VEN017,1.13,1.55,0,0.12,32.91,17.47,3.75,0,12.37,3.07,27.62,0
VEN018,9.33,0,3.69,0,27.33,17.18,0,0,19.59,0,20.74,2.14
VEN021,8.65,0,0.51,3.3,17.54,14.06,0,2.43,21.68,1.47,30.37,0
VEN022,7.04,0,0,5.28,15.13,25.83,0,0.13,20.82,0,25.77,0
VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
BRC001_023,0,0,3.47,0,54.97,4.94,0,0.75,9.95,0,24.98,0.94
BRC002,0.87,0,1.36,0,45.47,25.27,2.32,0,4.39,0,18.99,1.33
BRC003,1.48,0,2.35,1.33,46.70,24.27,0,0,5.74,0,17.40,0.74
BRC007_019,3.5,0,1.75,0.58,48.28,18.96,0,0,9.11,0.52,16.2,1.1
BRC010_018,0,0,5.13,0.5,47.79,19.51,0,0,7.86,0,18.69,0.51
BRC011,0,0,0,0,37.8,0,0,0,42.9,0,19.29,0
BRC012,0,15.45,0,0,40.8,0,0,0,43.74,0,0,0
BRC013,0,0,6.28,0,57.75,0,0,0,6.97,0,29,0
BRC022,0,0,0,0.94,62.87,3.14,0,0,10.14,0,22.91,0
BRC024,0,0,0,0,52.32,30.37,0,5.35,0,0,10.84,1.12
GCP002A1,2.18,0,3.15,3.26,44.5,29.77,0,0,5.27,0,11.87,0
GCP003A1,7.58,1.55,0.86,0,49.29,22.95,0,0,4.32,0,13.45,0
GCP004A1,22.15,0,0,0,37.5,23.7,6.64,0,10.01,0,0,0
GLR001A1,0,1.77,4.40,0,58.27,5.15,0,0,11.05,0.22,17.72,1.41
GLR002A1,0,0,6.65,0,63.81,1.89,0,0,5.79,0,21.86,0
GLR003B1,0,0,9.49,4.97,65.66,0,0,0,0,0,17.94,1.93
LSC002_004,0,0,0,0,62.94,2.45,0,0,6.28,0,26.23,2.11
LSC005A1_013,0,0,2.64,1.84,57.50,6.67,0,0,9.34,0,21.45,0.55
LSC007A1,0,0,0,0,95.95,0,0,0.6,3.45,0,0,0
LSC011A1,0,0,8.94,0,53.32,7.47,0,0,14.31,0,15.96,0
LSC012A1,0,0,0,0,97.48,0,0,0,0,2.52,0,0
VK534_Dod_K12b,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
VK535_Dod_K12b,8.59,0.00,5.60,1.09,27.21,14.69,0.00,0.80,12.43,0.00,28.19,1.39
VK536_Dod_K12b,5.89,1.85,3.79,0.00,32.54,15.84,0.00,0.00,8.95,0.00,29.54,1.61
VK537_Dod_K12b,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
VK538_Dod_K12b,5.67,0.03,1.37,1.02,31.40,31.69,0.00,0.00,7.51,0.17,19.83,1.30
VK17_Dod_K12b,2.47,2.89,0.05,0.68,28.23,60.27,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,3.77,1.58
VK398_Dod_K12b,8.38,2.47,0.53,0.00,35.05,41.08,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,9.88,2.14

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Here mine :)

Distance to:Dodecadk12bStuvanè
3.43011662Szolad31
3.44400929Szolad36
3.71212877Collegno36
4.12127407ETR007
4.21513938Szolad43
4.22113729Italian_Romagna
4.64806411Italian_Tuscany
4.68264882I3499_NWBalkans_PannonianPlain_Vucedol_EN
4.97630385R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
5.17443717Italian_Liguria
5.19567128scy192_Scythian
5.20443080Italian_Emilia
5.34300477R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
5.53207014R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
5.57919349Szolad37
5.64705233scy300_Scythian
5.87326144Collegno23
5.96436920TAQ009
6.10509623Albanian_Kosovo
6.18798836POP001
6.25171976R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.26295457Italian_Veneto
6.31981012TAQ011
6.33497435Italian_Lazio
6.43351381I4332_Balkans_BronzeAge


Some combos

Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.8724% / 0.87237919 | R2P

74.9Szolad36
25.1Italian_Trentino


Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.6593% / 0.65925115 | ADC: 0.5x RC

63.1Szolad36
19.4Italian_Friuli_VG
17.5R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.2914% / 0.29143074 | ADC: 0.25x RC

50.4Szolad36
25.6Italian_Friuli_VG
11.5Bul6_Balkans_BronzeAge
10.4Macedonian_South
2.1R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto


 
My top 25 distances using Dodecad 12 modern, ancient and additional sample coordinates provided by Jovialis

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_Combined
2.38784422VEN015
2.62716577R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.80777492R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.25103061R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
3.29887860R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio
3.56992997Italian_Campania
3.77608263Italian_Abruzzo
3.93635618R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
3.98449495Italian_Sicily
4.04278369VEN013
4.05677212R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
4.18025119R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.24855269VEN005
4.25480904R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
4.28794823R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
4.47671755Szolad40
4.58093877ETR001
4.58742847R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis
4.61280826TAQ003
4.63776886R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
4.81801826R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
4.85203050R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.04013889Collegno121
5.06126466R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
5.06482971R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna


Model Combinations, Restricted to 3 Populations, 2 Populations and Unrestricted, respecively.

Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
Distance: 0.6252% / 0.62522306 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 VEN015
39.6 Italian_Campania
5.8 MX219_Switzerland_LN



Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
Distance: 0.8769% / 0.87689835 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 VEN015
45.4 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna



Target: PalermoTrapani_Combined
Distance: 0.5470% / 0.54698750 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.8 VEN015
25.5 R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
10.6 R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.6 ETR001
7.0 MAS003
5.4 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
1.1 VEN005
 

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