"Ancient DNA reveals the origins of the Albanians" paper

There's definitely something to VK536, and I13839

Distance to:ALB_Mdv:I13839
4.62848787Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK536
7.34651618S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN001
7.38851135S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN017
7.55928568S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN005
8.20455361S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN013
8.30575704S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN015
9.19251326Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK537
9.34822443S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006
10.29839308Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK535
10.69491935S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN016
11.10809615S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN008
11.93063703S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN009
12.84613171Apulia_MA:ORD010:Aneli_2022
12.94909649S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN012
13.52511737Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK534
16.61983754S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN018
17.75746322Apulia_MA:SGR001:Aneli_2022
18.95952795Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK538
20.34972727S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN010
20.93718940S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN014
21.45741131S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN021
24.97058269S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN022
40.87970156S.Italy_Venosa_VEN002:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN002

 
There's also the fact that I am most similar to a Byzantine Croatian sample. This is out of 6,682 aDNA samples:

Distance to:Jovialis
2.77221933HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
2.93676693Hungary_MidAvar:SZK-180.SG
3.25777531C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
3.28435686C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
3.31691121HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
3.32683032C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
3.33595564Italy_PalazzoDellaCancelleria_Roman_Medieval_possible:R1292
3.39439243Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
3.51115366C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
3.64458502TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
3.67854591C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
3.82032721HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
3.89204317C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
4.07025798Collegno121:Amorim_2018
4.09070899VEN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.15604379VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.19606959C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
4.29329710C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
4.37202470C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
4.44950559C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
4.56582961Hungary_LateAvar:KK1-368.SG
4.69323982C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
4.83184230Croatia_Velic_Roman:R3685
4.94448177Croatia_NovoSeloBunje_Roman:R3547
4.95721696C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019

 
There are good chances that Jovualis is right. suggestion: make a comparioson with Venosa samples. cant think of a better candidate


original people of Venosa are Lucanians before the samnites took the town.

Venosa, Latin Venusia, town and episcopal see, Basilicata regione, southern Italy. It is situated on the lower slope of Mount Vulcano, north of Potenza. Originally a settlement of the Lucanians (an ancient Italic tribe), it was taken by the Romans after the Samnite Wars (291 bc); from its position on the Appian Way it became an important Roman garrison town.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucanians
 
yop Torzio, Horatio was from venusia. But good point. Jov, thanks, considering the comment maybe we can see also the Daunians included.
 
There's also the fact that I am most similar to a Byzantine Croatian sample. This is out of 6,682 aDNA samples:

Distance to:Jovialis
2.77221933HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
2.93676693Hungary_MidAvar:SZK-180.SG
3.25777531C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R54:Antonio_2019
3.28435686C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R835:Antonio_2019
3.31691121HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
3.32683032C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R973:Antonio_2019
3.33595564Italy_PalazzoDellaCancelleria_Roman_Medieval_possible:R1292
3.39439243Crusader_Pit:SI53:Haber_2019
3.51115366C6-S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_Late_Antiquity:R121:Antonio_2019
3.64458502TAQ003:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
3.67854591C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R970:Antonio_2019
3.82032721HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
3.89204317C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R57:Antonio_2019
4.07025798Collegno121:Amorim_2018
4.09070899VEN006:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.15604379VEN013:Etruscan_Pre-Print_2021
4.19606959C6-Civitanova_Marche_Imperial_Rome:R836:Antonio_2019
4.29329710C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R60:Antonio_2019
4.37202470C6-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R49:Antonio_2019
4.44950559C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R1290:Antonio_2019
4.56582961Hungary_LateAvar:KK1-368.SG
4.69323982C6-Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_MA:R969:Antonio_2019
4.83184230Croatia_Velic_Roman:R3685
4.94448177Croatia_NovoSeloBunje_Roman:R3547
4.95721696C6-Villa_Magna_MA:R56:Antonio_2019
Those are pretty close distances to Slavic samples. Not unusual though. In 2019 we stayed in a tenuta in Rossano, Calabria and our hosts were Serbians that migrated in the 1100s with the last name Greco :). Apulia is even closer to the Dalmatian coast. In another town, I heard some Arberesh. I knew it was either Arberesh or Albanian so I asked. Southen Italy is not just Magna Grecia.
 
I've actually emailed the the author about the so-called "avar", SZK-180.SG. in the past. Because it doesn't really make sense considering it plots in southern Europe. He actually didn't know, and he said he needed some other guy to verify. Seems like a screw up on the part of the paper. I think I mentioned it somewhere on the forum in the past on the MTA thread. It was from the Lombard paper I believe.
 
@Bigsnake, I doubt it there's any Slavic in me, or in the samples. There could be some trace amounts from a more recent Balkan migration though

HRV_Torgir_Byz:I15744 is actually pretty consistent with what we see in the Balkans regarding I13839

Distance to:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
2.36446963Abruzzo_(n=19)
3.19198997Molise_(n=2)
3.73167184Marche_(n=18)
3.92649666Lazio_(n=5)
3.97095706Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania
4.04477747Apulia_(n=230)
4.47301492Messenia_(n=4)
4.99110950Central_Greece_(n=10)
5.08550621Umbria_(n=13)
5.08846444Basilicata_(n=9)
5.31110284Sicily_(n=37)
5.36397241Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia
5.45922156Laconia:LAK8_Neapoli_Laconia
5.52638042Athens_(n=15)
6.28688325Campania_(n=17)
6.41102648Peloponnese_(n=9)
6.49845982Greece_F_(n=5)
6.71782703Cyclades_(n=8)
6.91066708Albanian_(n=6)
7.43281350Northeast_Greece_(n=11)
7.64996078Argolida:Greek:ARG1_Argos_Argolida
7.77080786Thessaly_(n=10)
8.09368770Calabria_(n=6)
8.45191234Halkidiki_(n=3)
8.45304931TSI_(n=96)


Distance to:ALB_Mdv:I13839
3.74305437Lazio_(n=5)
4.27393760Umbria_(n=13)
4.72023978Marche_(n=18)
5.50192551Tuscan_(n=28)
5.67501542Molise_(n=2)
5.92664908Abruzzo_(n=19)
6.20531651TSI_(n=96)
7.26339424Corsica_(n=12)
7.37675069Apulia_(n=230)
8.00749324Sicily_(n=37)
8.30837604Messenia_(n=4)
8.35126360Basilicata_(n=9)
8.62754316Campania_(n=17)
8.66175999Albanian_(n=6)
8.72672906Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia
8.95711638Athens_(n=15)
9.01569376Central_Greece_(n=10)
9.06086640Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania
9.54731900Laconia:LAK8_Neapoli_Laconia
9.71954417Emilia-Romagna_(n=7)
10.01718260Calabria_(n=6)
10.28129467Greece_F_(n=5)
10.35007609Cyclades_(n=8)
10.49327699Northeast_Greece_(n=11)
10.71263504Peloponnese_(n=9)

Distance to:ALB_Mdv:I13839
6.85800262Jovialis

Here's my distance to the sample.
 
Jovialis, you probably do not and not all Balkanites that lived in Slavic countries had yet admixed with Slavs and Avars in medieval times. Also Avars were an umbrella of different tribes some of which are local tribes aligned with the Afar Khaganate.
 
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@Bigsnake, I doubt it there's any Slavic in me, or in the samples. There could be some trace amounts from a more recent Balkan migration though

HRV_Torgir_Byz:I15744 is actually pretty consistent with what we see in the Balkans regarding I13839

Distance to:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
2.36446963Abruzzo_(n=19)
3.19198997Molise_(n=2)
3.73167184Marche_(n=18)
3.92649666Lazio_(n=5)
3.97095706Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania
4.04477747Apulia_(n=230)
4.47301492Messenia_(n=4)
4.99110950Central_Greece_(n=10)
5.08550621Umbria_(n=13)
5.08846444Basilicata_(n=9)
5.31110284Sicily_(n=37)
5.36397241Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia
5.45922156Laconia:LAK8_Neapoli_Laconia
5.52638042Athens_(n=15)
6.28688325Campania_(n=17)
6.41102648Peloponnese_(n=9)
6.49845982Greece_F_(n=5)
6.71782703Cyclades_(n=8)
6.91066708Albanian_(n=6)
7.43281350Northeast_Greece_(n=11)
7.64996078Argolida:Greek:ARG1_Argos_Argolida
7.77080786Thessaly_(n=10)
8.09368770Calabria_(n=6)
8.45191234Halkidiki_(n=3)
8.45304931TSI_(n=96)


Distance to:ALB_Mdv:I13839
3.74305437Lazio_(n=5)
4.27393760Umbria_(n=13)
4.72023978Marche_(n=18)
5.50192551Tuscan_(n=28)
5.67501542Molise_(n=2)
5.92664908Abruzzo_(n=19)
6.20531651TSI_(n=96)
7.26339424Corsica_(n=12)
7.37675069Apulia_(n=230)
8.00749324Sicily_(n=37)
8.30837604Messenia_(n=4)
8.35126360Basilicata_(n=9)
8.62754316Campania_(n=17)
8.66175999Albanian_(n=6)
8.72672906Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia
8.95711638Athens_(n=15)
9.01569376Central_Greece_(n=10)
9.06086640Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania
9.54731900Laconia:LAK8_Neapoli_Laconia
9.71954417Emilia-Romagna_(n=7)
10.01718260Calabria_(n=6)
10.28129467Greece_F_(n=5)
10.35007609Cyclades_(n=8)
10.49327699Northeast_Greece_(n=11)
10.71263504Peloponnese_(n=9)

Distance to:ALB_Mdv:I13839
6.85800262Jovialis

Here's my distance to the sample.

@Jovialis Would you mind posting the coordinates for the modern Greek subgroups?Especially those from the Central Greek areas
 
Sure thing, the credit goes to Salento and Pax Augusta for this:

Code:
Crete:CRE_AN_18_Ano_Horio_Lasithi,8.88,0,2.41,0,23.51,13.43,1.08,0,13.01,0.53,37.13,0
Crete:CRE_AV_28_Agios_Thomas_Heraklion,10.54,0,4.11,0,22.91,14.62,0,0,8.5,1.19,37.46,0.67
Crete:CRE_IER_20_Christos_Lasithi,6.71,0,0,1.4,24.38,12.18,0.44,2.95,13.61,0,38.32,0
Crete:CRE_KAN_18_Kandanos_Chania,5.96,0.24,0.31,1.6,24.04,19.32,0.39,0,15.06,0.61,32.45,0
Crete:CRE_KIS_27_Kalathenes_Chania,8.96,0.98,1.35,0,24.16,15.08,0,0.51,14.61,1.34,33.02,0
Crete:CRE_MOI_17_Zaros_Heraklion,9.69,0,1.6,0,20.92,15.67,0,0.37,14.33,0.7,35.98,0.74
Crete:CRE_NE_11_Vrachasi_Lasithi,5.5,0,2.58,0.7,22.68,14.34,0.37,0.5,14.5,0.25,38.46,0.13
Crete:CRE_SIT_4_Papayannades_Lasithi,8.56,0,1.08,0,25.22,14.82,0.58,0.1,12.68,0,36.71,0.24
Crete:CRE_SIT_8_Ziros_Lasithi,5.85,0,3.23,0,21.53,17.37,0,0,13.58,0,38.45,0
Crete:CRE_TZ_10_Tzermiado_Lasithi,5.33,0,0.97,0,27.18,15.42,0.27,0,11.13,0.63,39.07,0
Crete:CRE_VIA_25_Vianos_Heraklion,9.07,0,2.57,0,24.25,15.12,0.81,0,15,0.11,33.07,0
Ahaia:Greek:AHA15_Lefkasio_Ahaia,3.12,0.65,0,0.41,29.91,28.43,0.56,1.29,8.64,0,26.99,0
Argolida:Greek:ARG1_Argos_Argolida,6.1,0.22,2.14,0,25.24,20.4,0,0,9.92,0,35.97,0
Arkadia:Greek:ARK19_Palaiohori_Arkadia,4.45,0,1.86,1.27,23.77,25.63,0,0,10.29,0,32.73,0.01
Messenia:Greek:ARK3_Perdikoneri_Messenia,6.91,0,1.86,1.67,26.16,24.46,0,0,9.9,0,28.78,0.26
Cyclades:CYCL1_Koumaros_Cyclades,4.74,0.41,3.85,1.18,26.65,15.93,0,0,10.34,0,36.38,0.53
Cyclades:CYCL12_Tarampados_Cyclades,5.98,0,1.49,0.04,26.8,15.49,0.59,0,9.38,2.56,37.66,0
Cyclades:CYCL16_Triovasalos_Cyclades,10.12,0,1.3,0.31,23.05,16.15,0,0,13.24,0,35.71,0.13
Cyclades:CYCL19_Milos_Cyclades,7.1,0,3.12,0.33,25.73,17.65,0.75,0,9.03,0,36.29,0
Cyclades:CYCL2_Amorgos_Cyclades,6.97,0,1.69,0,28.33,10.23,0,0,13.99,0.43,38.37,0
Cyclades:CYCL22_Kea_Cyclades,7.13,0.56,3.79,0.35,28.05,17.63,1.05,0.37,11.72,0,29.36,0
Cyclades:CYCL23_Kea_Cyclades,6.61,0.35,2.19,0,25.41,21.65,1.03,0.15,10.05,0.08,32.47,0
Cyclades:CYCL3_Amorgos_Cyclades,8.54,0,1.61,0,22.76,12.67,1.34,0.44,14.75,0,37.91,0
Dodecanese:DOD1_Paradisi_Dodecanese,8.16,0,2.25,0,24.49,7.39,0,0.23,14.6,0.43,42.44,0
Dodecanese:DOD2_Lardos_Dodecanese,10.19,0,4.91,0.28,22.31,6.42,0,0.28,15.73,0,39.88,0
Dodecanese:DOD3_Laerma_Dodecanese,11.91,0.95,3.88,0.69,22.6,0.31,0,0,15.5,0,44.16,0
Dodecanese:DOD4_Archagelos_Dodecanese,8.01,0,2.05,0,23.75,7.29,0,1.08,17.26,0.48,40.08,0
Dodecanese:DOD5_Malonas_Dodecanese,7.21,0,2.47,0.5,23.88,8.84,0,1.15,15.45,0.68,39.81,0
Dodecanese:DOD6_Vati_Dodecanese,9.7,0,1.97,1.41,18.57,8.57,0,1.25,15.66,0,42.86,0
Dodecanese:DOD7_Rodos_Dodecanese,7.05,0,1.34,0,22.21,13.36,2.05,0,13.46,0,40.23,0.31
Messenia:IL21_Skliros_Messenia,6.85,0,2.16,0,32.63,19.56,0.06,0,9.65,0,29.09,0
Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania,7.6,0.88,2.38,0,27.11,20.89,0,0,9.41,0.77,30.97,0
Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia,5.24,0,0,0,27.73,20.04,0,0,14.25,1.42,31.32,0
Laconia:LAK8_Neapoli_Laconia,6.12,0.62,4.81,0,26.34,18.61,0,0,9.73,0,33.76,0
Thessaloniki:MAK103_Hortiatis_Thessaloniki,5.65,0,1.12,0.57,31.04,24.73,0,0,7.63,0,29.26,0
Thessaloniki:MAK118_Epanomi_Thessaloniki,4.6,0,0,1.33,27.78,28.43,0.78,0,6.68,0,30.38,0.03
Halkidiki:MAK127_Kassandrino_Halkidiki,6.5,0,2.43,0.14,25.43,25.14,1.25,0,6.5,1.55,31.07,0
Kavala:MAK147_Nikisiani_Kavala,3.75,0,0.31,0.93,26.51,30.67,0,0.17,7.65,0,29.9,0.12
Halkidiki:MAK175_Palaiohori_Halkidiki,5.47,0,1.64,0.42,27.67,27.58,0.83,0,8.04,0,28.36,0
Halkidiki:MAK196_Parthenonas_Halkidiki,7.21,1.21,1.67,0,27.15,24.09,0,0,10.59,0,28.08,0
Pieria:MAK249_Poroi_Pieria,4.97,0,0,0,26.88,26.45,0.78,0,9.95,0,30.98,0
Drama:MAK337_Doxato_Drama,7.5,0.71,0,0,24.32,29.46,0,0,10.51,0.48,27.02,0
Messenia:MES19_Filiatra_Messenia,4.45,1.01,1.24,0,28.53,17.39,0,0,10.67,0,36.72,0
Messenia:MES32_Kyparissia_Messenia,7.36,0,1.82,0,24.25,24.82,0,0,9.17,1,31.59,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE8,6.06,1.06,0.23,0,25.47,30.62,0,0,8.12,0,28.44,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE11,5.53,0.37,0.78,0,27.05,28.83,0.57,0,6.26,0,30.57,0.05
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE34,6.36,0,2.82,0,27.36,30.25,0,0,7.9,0,25.31,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE59,6.59,0.83,1.44,0,25.65,26.93,1.27,0,10.96,0,26.24,0.08
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE126,7.01,0.61,0.84,0,29.05,22.73,0.29,0,8.79,0,30.68,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE144,4.75,1.27,0.74,0,28.42,24.21,0.36,0,8.59,0,31.6,0.06
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE162,4.57,0.39,0.83,0.31,31.54,23.63,0.28,0,8.2,0,30.26,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE209,3.73,0,2.27,0,26.67,22.19,0.26,0,11.14,0.69,33,0.06
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE231,7.23,0.16,2.76,0,28.12,19.17,0,0,9.71,0,32.85,0
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE252,7.39,0.24,1.23,0,26.45,20.4,0.19,0,10.02,0.48,33.49,0.11
Greece_NorthEast:GreeceNE284,5.91,0.54,0,0,29.59,22.91,0,0,9.71,0,31.33,0
Greece_Macedonia_o:GreeceMaced1,15.71,0,0.86,0,11.36,5.09,0.23,0,13.20,0.42,53.12,0
Greece_Macedonia:GreeceMaced2,6.98,0.23,0.79,0.65,25.71,32.82,0,0,6.71,0,26.11,0
Greece_Macedonia:GreeceMaced3,6.31,0.66,0.53,0,25.07,27.70,0,0,9.12,0.67,29.92,0
Greece_Macedonia:GreeceMaced4,4.99,0,0.80,0,25.65,30.89,0.52,0,9.41,0,27.75,0
Greece_Macedonia_o:GreeceMaced6,9.15,0,1.66,0,20.40,16.23,0,0,14.00,0.32,38.24,0
Greece_Macedonia_o:GreeceMaced7,8.06,0,2.83,0.12,22.96,16.70,0,0.11,12.60,0,36.19,0.44
Greece_Macedonia:GreeceMaced8,7.86,1.73,1.06,0,26.44,30.87,0,0,6.41,0.64,24.98,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP10,5.91,0.2,1.34,1.08,23.77,24.58,0.56,0.25,10.06,0,32.25,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP11,5.63,0.22,1.64,0,25.41,25.39,1.02,0.06,7.99,0,32.58,0.06
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP12,7.73,0.09,1.31,0,22.25,26.71,0.19,0,8.84,0,32.87,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP13,7.91,0.43,0.72,0,31.44,22.54,0,0,7.85,0,29,0.1
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP14,3.68,0,3.14,0,28.46,23.19,2.04,0,9.34,0,30.15,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP15,7.1,0,0.81,0,27.82,26.17,0,0,6.78,1.5,29.81,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP16,3,1.31,2.99,0,25.38,23.55,0,0.07,10.33,0,33.37,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP17,5.81,0,1.28,0.4,27.12,28.14,0,0.24,9.09,0,27.93,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP18,4.44,0.59,1.1,0,26.54,25.5,0.19,0,11.15,0,30.5,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP3,1.15,1.42,3.25,0.29,26.72,26.45,0,0,10.06,0,30.67,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP4,4.78,0.73,2.02,0,25.87,23.46,0,0,8.66,0,34.42,0.06
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP5,2.58,0,0.38,0.84,26.45,25.13,2.14,0,10.16,0,32.14,0.17
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP8,7.28,0,1.14,0,28.22,28.15,0,0,7.03,0.46,27.7,0
Thessaloniki:Greek_Thessaloniki_GREEKGRALPOP9,3.61,0,0,0,28.48,24.38,0.62,0.07,7.92,1,33.92,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly2,6.9,1.34,1.53,0.11,26.39,25.53,0.16,0,8.08,0.08,29.88,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly3,3.71,0.02,0.83,0.01,29.93,26.54,0.01,0,9.97,0.03,28.96,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly4,6.14,0.24,1.99,0,25.36,24.62,0,0,9.86,0.07,31.57,0.14
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly5,6.88,0.01,1.77,0,29.18,23.02,2.4,0,7.11,0.01,29.62,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly6,5.64,0.45,1.23,0,29.32,28.97,0,0,5.91,0,27.75,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly7,6.05,0.25,0.02,0.05,27.46,24.05,0.64,0,10.79,1.12,29.56,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly8,5.49,0.11,2.3,0.02,29.33,24.5,0.03,0,8.53,0,29.09,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly9,4.85,1.44,2.05,0,27.28,22.79,0,0,11.38,0.01,30.2,0
Thessaly:GreeceThessaly10,6.25,0,2.96,0.06,25.9,25.82,1.41,0,8.63,0.02,28.95,0
Thessaly:Greek_Thessaly,5.706,0.389,1.56,0.052,27.831,25.09,0.465,0,8.958,0.134,29.667,0.014
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA010,2.8,0.24,1,0,28.15,21.24,0,0,12.36,0.21,34.02,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA011,4.28,1.31,3.51,1.11,23.42,18.26,0,0,12.21,0,35.91,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA012,4.43,0.36,2.13,0,26.55,18.17,0.67,0,11.68,0,36,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA015,4.9,0.93,3.76,0,29.22,20.43,0.47,0,10.23,0.14,28.75,1.16
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA017,9.16,0.24,0.75,0.24,28.71,20.1,0,0,9.13,1.58,30.1,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA018,5.36,0,1.48,0.34,28.6,17.93,0,0,9.78,0,35.54,0.97
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA019,3.84,0.68,0.42,0,25.63,23.81,0,0.36,11.23,0,33.98,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA020,4.74,0,0.18,0,28.35,24.29,0,0.53,11.52,0,30.33,0.06
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA021,9.08,0,0,1.62,25.79,17.31,0.51,0,10.02,0,35.66,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA023,4.43,0.61,2.63,0.17,24.98,24.64,0,0.43,6.7,1.16,34.24,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA024,5.21,0,2.54,0,27.46,19.21,0,0,9.51,1.18,34.89,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA025,4.11,0,0.55,0.43,27.48,21.51,0,0.52,11.43,0.35,33.61,0
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA027,5.56,0,0.54,0,27.64,21.33,0,0.06,10.85,0.48,32.98,0.56
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA028,5.81,0,0.58,0.11,25.83,21.24,0,0.09,11.29,0,34.02,1.01
Athens:Greek_Athens_TLA029,7.23,1.35,1.86,0,24.9,19.54,0.75,0,9.81,0,34.55,0
Crete:Greek_Preveliana_Irakleioy_B_Crete1DG,10.87,0.78,2.75,0,22.32,16.89,0,0.31,12.01,0,34.04,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral1,8.37,0.49,1.07,0.01,26.68,21.96,0,0.82,9.37,0.74,30.49,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral2,4.71,0.48,1.44,0.36,28.68,21.72,0,0.22,10.58,0.32,31.5,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral3,9.42,0.01,2.26,0,24.17,14.08,0.02,0,11.79,0,38.24,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral4,7.81,0.38,0.38,0.41,27.51,17.93,0,0.72,10.54,0.03,34.28,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral5,4.57,0.85,0.57,0.2,28.37,26.23,0,0,9.91,0.19,29.11,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral6,5.31,0,1.33,0,27.7,26.22,0,0,8.89,0,30.54,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral7,7.82,0.16,0.07,0,24.68,20.88,0.05,0,9.03,0.68,36.57,0.07
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral8,6.4,0,1.43,0.52,27.89,16.54,0.01,0,11.85,0,35.34,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral9,4.64,0.02,1.31,0,29.46,26.52,0,0.35,7.57,0.46,29.68,0
Greece_Central:GreeceCentral10,6.69,0.57,4.05,0.01,24.6,16.55,0,0.17,12.44,0,34.9,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop1,4.45,0.85,1.27,0,27.15,25.99,0,0,8.10,0,32.19,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop3,4.43,0.26,2.41,0,27.51,24.00,0,0,9.48,0.59,31.32,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop4,6.16,0,1.66,0.41,25.45,20.53,0,0,10.27,0.63,34.81,0.09
Peloponnese:GreecePelop5,6.04,0,2.22,0.17,27.11,22.04,0.56,0,8.05,1.08,32.72,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop6,9.28,0,1.12,0.39,21.80,20.92,7.00,0.27,8.61,0,30.61,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop7,5.43,0.22,1.39,0,24.58,24.31,0,0.21,11.63,0,32.23,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop8,5.52,0,1.22,0.36,27.33,21.20,0,0,12.52,0,31.83,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop9,6.06,0,1.94,0,26.80,21.29,0.14,0,11.95,0.19,31.62,0
Peloponnese:GreecePelop10,6.32,0.38,0.54,0,23.96,24.44,1.16,0.08,11.55,0.03,31.54,0
Greece_F:GreeceF28k,5.7,0.26,2.28,0,26.66,23.65,0,0,9.73,0,31.72,0
Greece_F:GreeceF36k,7.56,0,1.59,0.93,25.46,17.83,0,0.59,10.19,0,35.84,0
Greece_F:GreeceF51k,6.45,0.31,1.52,0,26.4,17.15,0.39,0.13,13.04,0,34.6,0
Greece_F:GreeceF52k,7.86,0,2.37,0,26.6,17.67,0.02,0,9.14,0.66,35.65,0.04
Greece_F:GreeceF69k,5.99,0.05,1.49,0,23.64,16.84,0,0,10.89,1.35,39.75,0
Kos:GreeceKos1,8.21,0.83,3.1,0.1,23.32,10.76,0,0,14.19,0,39.31,0.18
Kos:GreeceKos2,7.15,0.37,2.41,0,24.26,10.76,0,0.17,15.8,0,39.09,0
Kos:GreeceKos4,8.72,0,2.03,0.34,21.5,10.32,0.6,0.12,14.63,0,41.73,0
Kos:GreeceKos5,7.67,0,1.6,0.56,25.5,9.49,0,0,14.42,0.85,39.88,0.04
Kos:GreeceKos6,8.55,0,2.11,1.09,23.32,10.43,0,0,14.84,0,39.66,0
Kos:GreeceKos7,8.27,0.19,2.85,0,23.92,10.98,0,0.1,14.34,0,39.35,0
Kos:GreeceKos8,9.32,0.2,3.74,0,22.28,7.83,0,0.4,13.98,0.81,41.45,0
Kos:GreeceKos9,7.94,0,4.17,0.54,22.17,11.92,0,0,13.1,0,39.93,0.24
Kos:GreeceKos10,8.54,0.17,2.62,0.07,20.43,10.62,1.12,0,14.65,0,41.56,0.23
Crete:Crete2,6.12,1.09,3.08,0,20.58,16.33,0,0.13,14.03,0,38.55,0.11
Crete:Crete3,8.41,0,1.57,0.48,25.78,13.69,0.42,0.16,13.21,0.34,35.93,0
Crete:Crete4,8.03,0,3.74,0,21.4,13.73,1.1,0.2,13.71,0.18,37.91,0
Crete:Crete5,9.01,0,1.27,0,23.71,12.93,0,1.59,13.08,0,38.41,0
Crete:Crete6,8.38,0,1.38,0,24.44,12.63,0.78,0,14.41,0,37.97,0
Crete:Crete7,5.52,0.74,2.66,0,23.72,10.47,0.96,0,15.36,0,40.22,0.36
Crete:Crete8,7.66,0.11,2.22,0,24.42,14.89,0.09,0,12.43,0.17,37.06,0.94
Crete:Crete9,9.28,0,2.75,0,22.32,13.5,0,0,11.81,0,40.34,0
Crete:Crete10,8.56,0,2.39,0,23.01,10.62,0,0.78,13.36,0,41.21,0.07
Phokaia:GreecePhokaia60,6.61,0.07,1.28,0,22.96,19.3,0.76,0.03,11.1,0,37.89,0
Smyrna:GreeceSmyrna4,5.39,0,1.61,0.29,22.82,18.54,0,0.37,12.2,0,38.79,0
Smyrna:GreeceSmyrna7,9.78,0.36,2.9,0,19.26,7,0,0,14.44,0.04,46.22,0
Smyrna:GreeceSmyrna9,6.82,0.58,3.34,0,23.47,15.26,0,0.14,11.07,0,39.12,0.19
Smyrna:GreeceSmyrna30,8.35,0,1.64,0.07,26.31,17.02,0,0,11.71,0,34.9,0
Smyrna:GreeceSmyrna58,5.32,0,2.08,0,27.92,19.48,0.73,0,10.49,0.08,33.9,0
Cyprus:Cyprus1,5.59,0,2.08,0,20.33,3.08,0.09,0,17.89,0.21,50.72,0
Cyprus:Cyprus2,9.96,0,3.2,0,21.58,4.03,0,0.99,18.48,0,41.62,0.15
Cyprus:Cyprus3,8.64,0,1.14,0,19.54,5.45,0,0,16.78,0.18,48.26,0
Cyprus:Cyprus4,4.87,0,2.63,0.45,15.59,7.55,0,0,17.27,0,51.64,0
Cyprus:Cyprus5,5.26,0.82,3.26,0,19.47,5.3,0,0,14.93,0,50.95,0
Cyprus:Cyprus6,5.89,0,1.08,0,21.59,3.31,0.07,0,17.82,0.24,50.01,0
Cyprus:Cyprus7,7.07,0,0.93,0.41,21.52,2.38,0,0,17.66,0,50.03,0
Cyprus:Cyprus8,5.33,0,0.47,0,20.92,4.07,0.87,0.66,18.79,0,48.89,0
Cyprus:Cyprus9,5.55,0,2.12,0,19.73,5.63,0.94,0.51,16.73,0,48.79,0
Cyprus:Cyprus10,4.62,0,2.85,0,21.7,5.16,0,0.76,15.97,0,48.94,0
Cyprus:Cyprus11,6.15,0,1.56,0.83,19.31,4.48,0,0.76,17.54,0.33,49.05,0
Cyprus:Cyprus12,8.06,0,3.67,0,19.16,2.71,0,0,18.44,0,47.7,0.26
 
Also, Albanians; credit also to Salento and Pax Augusta:

Code:
Albanian:AL9,5.26,0,2.47,0.71,29.56,24.40,0,0.08,7.74,0,27.78,1.99
Albanian:AL12,4.45,0.91,0.08,0,33.95,23.40,0,0,7.39,0.02,29.81,0
Albanian:AL17,5.38,0,1.12,0,30.35,22.13,0.88,0,9.59,0,30.54,0
Albanian:AL29,4.54,1.26,2.31,0.12,29.18,21.93,0,0.27,9.86,0,30.53,0
Albanian:AL82,5.30,0.23,0.73,0.46,27.08,27.71,0.23,0.14,7.14,0.14,30.84,0
Albanian:AL98,6.43,1.04,1.58,0,26.80,22.39,0.29,0,8.69,0.21,31.63,0.94

Kosovo:

Code:
Kosovo:Kosovo1,5.40,0.63,0.60,0,30.94,24.44,0,0,7.22,0,30.63,0.14
Kosovo:Kosovo11,5.19,1.12,1.28,0,28.15,27.51,0,0,7.60,0.11,29.04,0
Kosovo:Kosovo12,7.44,0,1.12,0,28.84,27.85,1.71,0,7.53,0,25.49,0
Kosovo:Kosovo14,4.96,0,0,0,31.77,28.45,0,0,5.97,0,28.85,0
Kosovo:Kosovo16,6.85,0,0.46,0.39,29.54,26.37,0.27,0,7.17,0,28.95,0
Kosovo:Kosovo18,7.62,0.02,1.15,0,26.29,28.10,0.22,0,9.87,0,26.73,0
Kosovo:Kosovo7,4.68,0.17,0.35,0.54,29.29,26.60,0,0.09,8.87,0,29.41,0
Kosovo:Kosovo8,6.84,0.11,1.01,0,28.83,25.39,0,0,6.35,0.39,31.08,0
 
Sure thing, the credit goes to Salento and Pax Augusta for this:

Code:
Crete:CRE_AN_18_Ano_Horio_Lasithi,8.88,0,2.41,0,23.51,13.43,1.08,0,13.01,0.53,37.13,0
Crete:CRE_AV_28_Agios_Thomas_Heraklion,10.54,0,4.11,0,22.91,14.62,0,0,8.5,1.19,37.46,0.67
Crete:CRE_IER_20_Christos_Lasithi,6.71,0,0,1.4,24.38,12.18,0.44,2.95,13.61,0,38.32,0
Crete:CRE_KAN_18_Kandanos_Chania,5.96,0.24,0.31,1.6,24.04,19.32,0.39,0,15.06,0.61,32.45,0
Crete:CRE_KIS_27_Kalathenes_Chania,8.96,0.98,1.35,0,24.16,15.08,0,0.51,14.61,1.34,33.02,0
Crete:CRE_MOI_17_Zaros_Heraklion,9.69,0,1.6,0,20.92,15.67,0,0.37,14.33,0.7,35.98,0.74
Crete:CRE_NE_11_Vrachasi_Lasithi,5.5,0,2.58,0.7,22.68,14.34,0.37,0.5,14.5,0.25,38.46,0.13
Crete:CRE_SIT_4_Papayannades_Lasithi,8.56,0,1.08,0,25.22,14.82,0.58,0.1,12.68,0,36.71,0.24
Crete:CRE_SIT_8_Ziros_Lasithi,5.85,0,3.23,0,21.53,17.37,0,0,13.58,0,38.45,0
Crete:CRE_TZ_10_Tzermiado_Lasithi,5.33,0,0.97,0,27.18,15.42,0.27,0,11.13,0.63,39.07,0
Crete:CRE_VIA_25_Vianos_Heraklion,9.07,0,2.57,0,24.25,15.12,0.81,0,15,0.11,33.07,0
Ahaia:Greek:AHA15_Lefkasio_Ahaia,3.12,0.65,0,0.41,29.91,28.43,0.56,1.29,8.64,0,26.99,0
Argolida:Greek:ARG1_Argos_Argolida,6.1,0.22,2.14,0,25.24,20.4,0,0,9.92,0,35.97,0
Arkadia:Greek:ARK19_Palaiohori_Arkadia,4.45,0,1.86,1.27,23.77,25.63,0,0,10.29,0,32.73,0.01
Messenia:Greek:ARK3_Perdikoneri_Messenia,6.91,0,1.86,1.67,26.16,24.46,0,0,9.9,0,28.78,0.26
Cyclades:CYCL1_Koumaros_Cyclades,4.74,0.41,3.85,1.18,26.65,15.93,0,0,10.34,0,36.38,0.53
Cyclades:CYCL12_Tarampados_Cyclades,5.98,0,1.49,0.04,26.8,15.49,0.59,0,9.38,2.56,37.66,0
Cyclades:CYCL16_Triovasalos_Cyclades,10.12,0,1.3,0.31,23.05,16.15,0,0,13.24,0,35.71,0.13
Cyclades:CYCL19_Milos_Cyclades,7.1,0,3.12,0.33,25.73,17.65,0.75,0,9.03,0,36.29,0
Cyclades:CYCL2_Amorgos_Cyclades,6.97,0,1.69,0,28.33,10.23,0,0,13.99,0.43,38.37,0
Cyclades:CYCL22_Kea_Cyclades,7.13,0.56,3.79,0.35,28.05,17.63,1.05,0.37,11.72,0,29.36,0
Cyclades:CYCL23_Kea_Cyclades,6.61,0.35,2.19,0,25.41,21.65,1.03,0.15,10.05,0.08,32.47,0
Cyclades:CYCL3_Amorgos_Cyclades,8.54,0,1.61,0,22.76,12.67,1.34,0.44,14.75,0,37.91,0
Dodecanese:DOD1_Paradisi_Dodecanese,8.16,0,2.25,0,24.49,7.39,0,0.23,14.6,0.43,42.44,0
Dodecanese:DOD2_Lardos_Dodecanese,10.19,0,4.91,0.28,22.31,6.42,0,0.28,15.73,0,39.88,0
Dodecanese:DOD3_Laerma_Dodecanese,11.91,0.95,3.88,0.69,22.6,0.31,0,0,15.5,0,44.16,0
Dodecanese:DOD4_Archagelos_Dodecanese,8.01,0,2.05,0,23.75,7.29,0,1.08,17.26,0.48,40.08,0
Dodecanese:DOD5_Malonas_Dodecanese,7.21,0,2.47,0.5,23.88,8.84,0,1.15,15.45,0.68,39.81,0
Dodecanese:DOD6_Vati_Dodecanese,9.7,0,1.97,1.41,18.57,8.57,0,1.25,15.66,0,42.86,0
Dodecanese:DOD7_Rodos_Dodecanese,7.05,0,1.34,0,22.21,13.36,2.05,0,13.46,0,40.23,0.31
Messenia:IL21_Skliros_Messenia,6.85,0,2.16,0,32.63,19.56,0.06,0,9.65,0,29.09,0
Aitolokarnania:IL4_Douneika_Aitolokarnania,7.6,0.88,2.38,0,27.11,20.89,0,0,9.41,0.77,30.97,0
Korinthia:KOR42_Kariotika_Korinthia,5.24,0,0,0,27.73,20.04,0,0,14.25,1.42,31.32,0
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Thank you Jovialis
 
Look for information on the main author of this paper, Leonidas-Romanos Davranoglou. You will find that he is not a geneticist, he is a zoologist working with a museum and not a genetics department.

Literally anyone can write a pre-print.

https://oumnh.ox.ac.uk/people/leonidas-romanos-davranoglou

This pre-print is far superior to similar attempts by Greek and Italian geneticists, such as Stamatoyannopoulos, Papageorgopoulou, Sarno, Raveane etc in terms of the analysis of available samples and utilising historical sources and linguistics in conjunction with aDNA.
 
Albanians have Germanic, Slavic and Vlach ancestry, which might account for a lot of the matches you mentioned. Could go either way of course.

I've not seen any evidence that Albanians have any discernible Germanic ancestry, one of my few objections to the authors of the Albanian pre-print was that it overstates the impact of Germanic settlement in the Balkans. A few I1 branches surviving into the modern era isn't proof of Germanic autosomal survival, just like J2a and other southern lineages found in northern Europe isn't proof of BA Anatolian autosomal ancestry.
 
I've not seen any evidence that Albanians have any discernible Germanic ancestry, one of my few objections to the authors of the Albanian pre-print was that it overstates the impact of Germanic settlement in the Balkans. A few I1 branches surviving into the modern era isn't proof of Germanic autosomal survival, just like J2a and other southern lineages found in northern Europe isn't proof of BA Anatolian autosomal ancestry.

It depends on when and how such lineages enter a population. E.g., J2a could have entered parts of Northern Europe in many forms and ways, but I-M253 with fairly recent TMRCA's to Germanic clade members are likely fairly direct Germanic to Balkan movements. Even if their autosomal impact was minimal to negligible. Of course, with recent founder events, like they are common among Albanians, the yDNA contribution might be out of proportion to the autosomal one, and even the uniparental impact is low, so yes, its low in any case.
 
This pre-print is far superior to similar attempts by Greek and Italian geneticists, such as Stamatoyannopoulos, Papageorgopoulou, Sarno, Raveane etc in terms of the analysis of available samples and utilising historical sources and linguistics in conjunction with aDNA.

As is well known, I have no appreciation for geneticists, including Greek and Italian geneticists, such as those you mentioned.

I generally only express myself on what I really know. And not knowing or being very interested in the genetic history of the Balkans, I refrain from passing judgement on the paper. My general considerations remain valid.
 
It depends on when and how such lineages enter a population. E.g., J2a could have entered parts of Northern Europe in many forms and ways, but I-M253 with fairly recent TMRCA's to Germanic clade members are likely fairly direct Germanic to Balkan movements. Even if their autosomal impact was minimal to negligible. Of course, with recent founder events, like they are common among Albanians, the yDNA contribution might be out of proportion to the autosomal one, and even the uniparental impact is low, so yes, its low in any case.

Let us also admit that I-M253 points to fairly direct Germanic to Balkan movements, as is possible, and not even very remote, but the question is did these Germanic movements affect the autosomal DNA of all Albanians?
 
Wrong thread
 
Using Ph2ter's newly found Slavic primordial proxy, it confirms my Iron Age model. The two samples from mdv are much higher in Slavic admixture than the post-mdv samples, and the two mdv samples are clearly unrelated to each other, which the authors chose to ignore and even combine them as one population. Why do this when Kenete is less than 5 kilometers from the Kukes samples, in theory it should be the parent of the post-mdv samples using the mindset of the authors that no population came in during/after 9th century (being close minded to such a hypothesis).



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TUR_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0.1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
EHG__UOO025,0.117238,0.023357,0.120679,0.211243,-0.012925,0.068886,-0.035017,-0.023999,-0.009204,-0.071983,0.02517,-0.012439,0.026759,-0.052572,0.024294,0.028507,0.016689,-0.022804,0.00352,0.020385,-0.001747,0.025102,0.017994,-0.016749,-0.017723
CHG__KK1,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Baltic_drift_as_HUN_MBA_Vatya_o_RISE479,0.132035,0.140143,0.087869,0.066215,0.069859,0.018128,0.011751,0.01223,0.036201,0.013668,0.005521,-0.014087,0.01888,0.038534,-0.029044,0.000265,-0.003651,0.012162,0.006662,0.00075,0.011979,0.000124,-0.021692,-0.099773,0.007305
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
CHN_Yellow_River_LN,0.0166466,-0.4503874,0.0109365,-0.0657709,0.0545101,0.0217886,0.0037894,0.0012404,-0.0097149,0.0040092,-0.0851524,-0.0100032,0.0123945,-0.0059179,-0.0088896,-0.000895,0.001483,-0.0003801,-0.0048392,-0.0075191,0.0172975,0.007543,0.0128639,-0.0006476,0.0073496

The post-mdv samples especially the ones with less Slavic admixture which are also the earliest of the post-mdv Kukes samples, have an uncanny resemblance to the proposed Bassarabi profile.

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