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Ancient Rome Test (Various Calculators)
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... results of Ancient Romans in WGS combined format:
(by Jovialis)
... my coordinates in “TARGET” are also from a Combined Raw-Data file,
... I get slightly different results with the singles, ...
(by Jovialis)
... my coordinates in “TARGET” are also from a Combined Raw-Data file,
... I get slightly different results with the singles, ...
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Vahaduo Dodecad K7b
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[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.40809017[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.54788712[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.94598012[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]8.00499844[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.17297987[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]8.22956256[/TD]
[TD]R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.26016949[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica[/TD]
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[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]8.71416663[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.76621355[/TD]
[TD]R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.86767162[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29429933[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.48016350[/TD]
[TD]R851_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.63388291[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF9700, align: right"]10.55524040[/TD]
[TD]R435_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Colombella[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]10.75185100[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26800337[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.71934298[/TD]
[TD]R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF6C00, align: right"]11.83353286[/TD]
[TD]R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF6200, align: right"]12.11513929[/TD]
[TD]R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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Angela
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Vahaduo Dodecad K7b
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[TD="bgcolor: #FCFF00, align: right"]7.40809017[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]7.54788712[/TD]
[TD]R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.94598012[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFEE00, align: right"]8.00499844[/TD]
[TD]R473_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.17297987[/TD]
[TD]R1016_Iron_Age_Castel_di_Decima[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE600, align: right"]8.22956256[/TD]
[TD]R1289_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.26016949[/TD]
[TD]R1021_Iron_Age_Boville_Ernica[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.36759822[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD600, align: right"]8.71416663[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.76621355[/TD]
[TD]R63_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.86767162[/TD]
[TD]R1015_Iron_Age_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFC200, align: right"]9.29429933[/TD]
[TD]R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.48016350[/TD]
[TD]R851_Iron_Age_Ardea[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.63388291[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF9700, align: right"]10.55524040[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF9000, align: right"]10.75185100[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26800337[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF7000, align: right"]11.71934298[/TD]
[TD]R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FF6C00, align: right"]11.83353286[/TD]
[TD]R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
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Just more indication that the ancient Etruscans and Iron Age and Republic Era "Romans" were in that spot between North Italians/Tuscans and Iberians, and that the researchers were correct about that part of it.
I'm surprised I don't get R851 Ardea.
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Well, not all of them. R437, and R850 happen to be in the range of Southern to Central Italians, as well.
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I think a lot of confusion has been created by the designations given by the MyTrueAncestry calculator. Below are the descriptions for each of the Iron Age samples. I have reviewed them, and given them the appropiate cultural designations. We can see that only four of them can be considered close to "Latin", two of them are within the range that is between North Italy and Iberia (435, 851), and the other two are in the Southern Italy range (437,850). However, it is clear that Etruscans fall into the range between North Italy, and Iberia:
Martinsicuro Date range: 930 cal BCE - 839 calBCE Individuals: R1
Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age(154). Excavations at the site have been limited, but during an excavation in preparation for road construction, a single post-built structure was excavated which contained a rich archaeological deposit of ceramics (155). These finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro (156). These finds also show the conservation and preservation (e.g. as artifacts) of ceramics from the earlier Middle Bronze Age into the Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age.
Culture: Proto-Villanovan
Palestrina (Antina, Colombella, Selciata) Date range: 600 BCE - 200 CE Individuals: R435, R436, R437
Praeneste, modern-day Palestrina, located south of Rome, was one of the largest ancient cities in Iron Age Latium and home to the Praenesti tribe. Praeneste was originally part of the Latin League, a consortium of cities allied for mutual protection, but left to form an alliance with Rome. After Rome was sacked by the Gauls in the 4th cen BCE, Praeneste switched sides again and fought against Rome in the Latin Wars. After defeat by the Roman, Praeneste was incorporated into the growing Roman territory (170).
Archaeological evidence attests to the strong trade links Praeneste had across the Mediterranean. One striking example is the silver bowl (Fig. S30) from an Iron Age tomb at Praeneste dating to the 8th/7th century BCE (3). Based on stylistic elements, art historians have attributed the bowl to a Carthaginian or Phoenician origin. Interestingly, the hieroglyphic characters serve as a design motif rather than as textual characters. They do not spell anything, perhaps suggesting that the bowl was created for a market that valued their aesthetic, rather than inscriptive, value.
Culture: Praenesti tribe – Latin League
Castel di Decima Date range: 900 BCE - 700 BCE Individuals: R1016
The necropolis of Castel di Decima is located along the Via Pontina (SS48) between approximately 18 and 20 km, on the southern outskirts of Rome, after Tor dei Cenci, along the route of the ancient Via Laurentina which connected Rome to Lavinio (119, 120). It was identified in 1953, with the recovery of partially damaged funerary objects, then a rectification of the path of the road and partially explored in a systematic way from 1971 to the end of the 1990s. On the occasion of the doubling of the road and the construction of houses the site was subject to archaeological protection. The excavations in the necropolis were directed by the two archaeological Superintendencies of Ostia Antica and Rome, competent for the territory, respectively to the west and east of the Via Pontina.
The excavations at Castel di Decima returned about 400 pit inhumations, dating back to a period of time between the beginning of the eighth century BCE and the end of the seventh century BCE. Apart from some tombs found devoid of objects or previously disturbed, they have all provided funerary objects of particular interest, among which some of considerable wealth emerge, attributable to figures of aristocratic rank and their family groups which characterize the Lazio and Tyrrhenian societies in general from the Orientalizing period (121).
The type of argillaceous-ferrous soil has not generally allowed the preservation of the skeletal remains of which only the teeth are preserved and traces of the long bones and skull, except for rare cases in which the outline of almost the entire skeleton is preserved, but with the bones which, while retaining their shape, are completely decalcified and very crumbly, especially in the distal parts. In these cases, the skeleton was recovered inside the blocks of earth that contained them. The gender of individuals is therefore almost always has been determined by the composition of funerary objects. The materials recovered by the Superintendency of Ostia Antica are kept at the EUR Civilization Museum, those recovered by the Superintendency of Rome at the National Museum of Terms in Rome.
Culture: Lazio and Tyrrhenian societies in general from the Orientalizing period (Aristocrat)
Civitavecchia Date Range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R473, R474, R475
La Mattonara is an Iron Age Etruscan necropolis near the coastal town of Civitavecchia, on the Tyrrhenian Sea (129, 130). Archaeological evidence, such as storage rooms for traded goods and pits for salting and preserving seafood, suggests the economy of this and other coastal Etruscan towns was based on long-distance trade and the exploitation of marine resources (131). Civitavecchia later served as a major Roman port (built between 103 and 110 CE) and was known at the time as Centum Cellae.
Culture: Etruscan
Veio Grotta Gramiccia Date range: 900 BCE - 800 BCE Individual: R1015
The site of Veio (Veii in English, Veio in Italian) is a large Etruscan city, located about 18 kilometers north of Rome (179). Veio’s territories spanned not only the plateau on which was located, but extended from the Tiber River in the south to Monte Sabatini (180, 181). It was one of the most powerful Etruscan city-states and its proximity to Rome resulted in conflicts between the two cities in the Iron Age and Republican periods, until Rome’s victory over Veio in 396 BCE (182).
Research by the South Etruria Survey and Tiber Valley Project have documented Veio and it’s territory. These surveys mapped roads connecting Veio to other important regional cities, such as Rome and Tarquinia, and identified Veientine necropoli (often located along these roads) (183–185). One of these, Grotta Gramiccia contains over 800 tombs (181). Located on the road between Veio and Tarquinia and Vulci, it is one of the earliest cemeteries of Veio, with tombs dating from the 9th to 7th centuries BCE (179, 181, 186).
While the burial in this study from Grotta Gramaccia has not been published previously, material finds from elsewhere in the necropolis, as well as other domestic and industrial contexts in Veio offer insights into daily life in Veio and its contacts with other Etruscan groups and the world beyond.
Culture: Etruscan
Boville Ernica Date range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R1021
Boville Ernica, known in the past as “Bauco”, is situated on a steep hill overlooking the surrounding Liri, Cosa and Sacco valleys (105, 106). Pre-Roman occupation of the site is evidenced by Italic archaeological findings and Pelasgic walls, characteristic of the people of the Bronze Age Aegean (107, 108). The name of the city refers to the nearby temple on Monte Fico thought to be dedicated to the agricultural deity Bove, where votive statuettes featuring oxen have been found.
Culture: Dubious
Ardea Date range: 800 BCE - 500 BCE Individuals: R850, R851
Located 4 kilometers from the Tyhrennian coast, Ardeatine territory consists of a large flat area with a maximum height of about 80-90 m s.l.m., which descends towards the sea with a series of successive terraces (96, 97). The area was once the main urban center of the Rutuli, a population belonging to the "Latin lineage", as featured in the Aeneid (7.409-411) (94) .
Past archaeological research campaigns, as well as those in progress, carried out by the Superintendency for the Archaeological assets of Lazio, and by F. Di Mario direct, have allowed the discovery of sites, structures and finds of considerable importance, demonstrating how the Ardeatine territory is still extraordinarily rich in historical and artistic elements: their study is starting to provide interesting data for more knowledge of this part of the ancient Lazio (97–101). Early evidence for the town’s inhabitation dates back to the late Bronze Age (102, 103). Ardea was part of the Latin League confederation and first became a Roman colony in the 5th century BCE. It is mentioned in the first Roman-Carthaginian treaty (3.22.24) as Ardea was one of the towns that refused to aid Rome in the Second Punic Wars (104). The skeletal materials come from a necropolis (Campo del Fico) and from the area of the sanctuary, and are dated VIII and VI century BCE. The location of the site is not far from the sea and in connection with an important seaport, Castrum Inui, which gave Ardea a strategic role in controlling coastal routes in the pre-Roman Lazio region (102).
The two excavation campaigns conducted in 1981 and 1982 by E. Tortorici and L. Crescenzi brought to light 24 buried individuals (11 males 10 females and 3 infants) in both the necropolis area and the cult area (101).
Culture: Ardea Tribe – Latin Leauge
Martinsicuro Date range: 930 cal BCE - 839 calBCE Individuals: R1
Martinsicuro is a coastal site located on the border of Le Marche and Abruzzo on central Italy’s Adriatic coast. It is a proto-Villanovan village, situated on a hill above the Tronto river, dating to the late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age(154). Excavations at the site have been limited, but during an excavation in preparation for road construction, a single post-built structure was excavated which contained a rich archaeological deposit of ceramics (155). These finds from the site indicate an affinity with contemporaries in the Balkans, suggesting direct trade contacts and interaction across the Adriatic. In particular, the practice of decorating ceramics with bronze elements was shared between the Nin region in Croatia and Picene region of Italy, including Martinsicuro (156). These finds also show the conservation and preservation (e.g. as artifacts) of ceramics from the earlier Middle Bronze Age into the Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age.
Culture: Proto-Villanovan
Palestrina (Antina, Colombella, Selciata) Date range: 600 BCE - 200 CE Individuals: R435, R436, R437
Praeneste, modern-day Palestrina, located south of Rome, was one of the largest ancient cities in Iron Age Latium and home to the Praenesti tribe. Praeneste was originally part of the Latin League, a consortium of cities allied for mutual protection, but left to form an alliance with Rome. After Rome was sacked by the Gauls in the 4th cen BCE, Praeneste switched sides again and fought against Rome in the Latin Wars. After defeat by the Roman, Praeneste was incorporated into the growing Roman territory (170).
Archaeological evidence attests to the strong trade links Praeneste had across the Mediterranean. One striking example is the silver bowl (Fig. S30) from an Iron Age tomb at Praeneste dating to the 8th/7th century BCE (3). Based on stylistic elements, art historians have attributed the bowl to a Carthaginian or Phoenician origin. Interestingly, the hieroglyphic characters serve as a design motif rather than as textual characters. They do not spell anything, perhaps suggesting that the bowl was created for a market that valued their aesthetic, rather than inscriptive, value.
Culture: Praenesti tribe – Latin League
Castel di Decima Date range: 900 BCE - 700 BCE Individuals: R1016
The necropolis of Castel di Decima is located along the Via Pontina (SS48) between approximately 18 and 20 km, on the southern outskirts of Rome, after Tor dei Cenci, along the route of the ancient Via Laurentina which connected Rome to Lavinio (119, 120). It was identified in 1953, with the recovery of partially damaged funerary objects, then a rectification of the path of the road and partially explored in a systematic way from 1971 to the end of the 1990s. On the occasion of the doubling of the road and the construction of houses the site was subject to archaeological protection. The excavations in the necropolis were directed by the two archaeological Superintendencies of Ostia Antica and Rome, competent for the territory, respectively to the west and east of the Via Pontina.
The excavations at Castel di Decima returned about 400 pit inhumations, dating back to a period of time between the beginning of the eighth century BCE and the end of the seventh century BCE. Apart from some tombs found devoid of objects or previously disturbed, they have all provided funerary objects of particular interest, among which some of considerable wealth emerge, attributable to figures of aristocratic rank and their family groups which characterize the Lazio and Tyrrhenian societies in general from the Orientalizing period (121).
The type of argillaceous-ferrous soil has not generally allowed the preservation of the skeletal remains of which only the teeth are preserved and traces of the long bones and skull, except for rare cases in which the outline of almost the entire skeleton is preserved, but with the bones which, while retaining their shape, are completely decalcified and very crumbly, especially in the distal parts. In these cases, the skeleton was recovered inside the blocks of earth that contained them. The gender of individuals is therefore almost always has been determined by the composition of funerary objects. The materials recovered by the Superintendency of Ostia Antica are kept at the EUR Civilization Museum, those recovered by the Superintendency of Rome at the National Museum of Terms in Rome.
Culture: Lazio and Tyrrhenian societies in general from the Orientalizing period (Aristocrat)
Civitavecchia Date Range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R473, R474, R475
La Mattonara is an Iron Age Etruscan necropolis near the coastal town of Civitavecchia, on the Tyrrhenian Sea (129, 130). Archaeological evidence, such as storage rooms for traded goods and pits for salting and preserving seafood, suggests the economy of this and other coastal Etruscan towns was based on long-distance trade and the exploitation of marine resources (131). Civitavecchia later served as a major Roman port (built between 103 and 110 CE) and was known at the time as Centum Cellae.
Culture: Etruscan
Veio Grotta Gramiccia Date range: 900 BCE - 800 BCE Individual: R1015
The site of Veio (Veii in English, Veio in Italian) is a large Etruscan city, located about 18 kilometers north of Rome (179). Veio’s territories spanned not only the plateau on which was located, but extended from the Tiber River in the south to Monte Sabatini (180, 181). It was one of the most powerful Etruscan city-states and its proximity to Rome resulted in conflicts between the two cities in the Iron Age and Republican periods, until Rome’s victory over Veio in 396 BCE (182).
Research by the South Etruria Survey and Tiber Valley Project have documented Veio and it’s territory. These surveys mapped roads connecting Veio to other important regional cities, such as Rome and Tarquinia, and identified Veientine necropoli (often located along these roads) (183–185). One of these, Grotta Gramiccia contains over 800 tombs (181). Located on the road between Veio and Tarquinia and Vulci, it is one of the earliest cemeteries of Veio, with tombs dating from the 9th to 7th centuries BCE (179, 181, 186).
While the burial in this study from Grotta Gramaccia has not been published previously, material finds from elsewhere in the necropolis, as well as other domestic and industrial contexts in Veio offer insights into daily life in Veio and its contacts with other Etruscan groups and the world beyond.
Culture: Etruscan
Boville Ernica Date range: 700 BCE - 600 BCE Individuals: R1021
Boville Ernica, known in the past as “Bauco”, is situated on a steep hill overlooking the surrounding Liri, Cosa and Sacco valleys (105, 106). Pre-Roman occupation of the site is evidenced by Italic archaeological findings and Pelasgic walls, characteristic of the people of the Bronze Age Aegean (107, 108). The name of the city refers to the nearby temple on Monte Fico thought to be dedicated to the agricultural deity Bove, where votive statuettes featuring oxen have been found.
Culture: Dubious
Ardea Date range: 800 BCE - 500 BCE Individuals: R850, R851
Located 4 kilometers from the Tyhrennian coast, Ardeatine territory consists of a large flat area with a maximum height of about 80-90 m s.l.m., which descends towards the sea with a series of successive terraces (96, 97). The area was once the main urban center of the Rutuli, a population belonging to the "Latin lineage", as featured in the Aeneid (7.409-411) (94) .
Past archaeological research campaigns, as well as those in progress, carried out by the Superintendency for the Archaeological assets of Lazio, and by F. Di Mario direct, have allowed the discovery of sites, structures and finds of considerable importance, demonstrating how the Ardeatine territory is still extraordinarily rich in historical and artistic elements: their study is starting to provide interesting data for more knowledge of this part of the ancient Lazio (97–101). Early evidence for the town’s inhabitation dates back to the late Bronze Age (102, 103). Ardea was part of the Latin League confederation and first became a Roman colony in the 5th century BCE. It is mentioned in the first Roman-Carthaginian treaty (3.22.24) as Ardea was one of the towns that refused to aid Rome in the Second Punic Wars (104). The skeletal materials come from a necropolis (Campo del Fico) and from the area of the sanctuary, and are dated VIII and VI century BCE. The location of the site is not far from the sea and in connection with an important seaport, Castrum Inui, which gave Ardea a strategic role in controlling coastal routes in the pre-Roman Lazio region (102).
The two excavation campaigns conducted in 1981 and 1982 by E. Tortorici and L. Crescenzi brought to light 24 buried individuals (11 males 10 females and 3 infants) in both the necropolis area and the cult area (101).
Culture: Ardea Tribe – Latin Leauge
Jovialis
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Personally, I speculate that the original Iron Age Italics were similar to samples like R1, that came into contact with groups like R850 that had been in Italy since the early Bronze age. Thus giving rise to groups, similar to R437. While the other samples are representative of Etruscan and Etruscan-like populations. Here are my results just using the Iron Age samples.
Angela
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Indeed, that's true.
Stuvanè
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Mine Dodecad K12b with #146 Joviali's samples
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[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Dodecadk12bStuvanè[/TH]
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[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.68931765[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]5.25950568[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.09997541[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.25171976[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]7.29406608[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.02461214[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.36071767[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.62461593[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.04734768[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.18148681[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.18804658[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.21490640[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.65467762[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA800, align: right"]10.04569560[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.21185585[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.25188763[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.31092139[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.68148866[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.42373407[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6C00, align: right"]11.83016906[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6900, align: right"]11.89786956[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6700, align: right"]11.97322012[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4100, align: right"]13.09102364[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.47474304[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3300, align: right"]13.49470637[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 2.6756% / 2.67563675 | ADC: 1x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]58.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]33.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.6315% / 1.63148454 | ADC: 0.5x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]44.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]20.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]17.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]11.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]6.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.0294% / 1.02941709 | ADC: 0.25x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]49.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]32.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]17.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Dodecadk12bStuvanè[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9FFF00, align: right"]4.68931765[/TD]
[TD]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B3FF00, align: right"]5.25950568[/TD]
[TD]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CFFF00, align: right"]6.09997541[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]6.25171976[/TD]
[TD]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]7.29406608[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFED00, align: right"]8.02461214[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE200, align: right"]8.36071767[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.62461593[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCA00, align: right"]9.04734768[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.18148681[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC600, align: right"]9.18804658[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.21490640[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB600, align: right"]9.65467762[/TD]
[TD]R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA800, align: right"]10.04569560[/TD]
[TD]R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.21185585[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.25188763[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]10.31092139[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.68148866[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7A00, align: right"]11.42373407[/TD]
[TD]R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6C00, align: right"]11.83016906[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6900, align: right"]11.89786956[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6700, align: right"]11.97322012[/TD]
[TD]R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4100, align: right"]13.09102364[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.47474304[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3300, align: right"]13.49470637[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 2.6756% / 2.67563675 | ADC: 1x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]58.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]33.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.6315% / 1.63148454 | ADC: 0.5x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]44.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]20.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]17.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]11.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]6.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.0294% / 1.02941709 | ADC: 0.25x
[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]49.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]32.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]17.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
Palermo Trapani
Regular Member
- Messages
- 1,695
- Reaction score
- 1,017
- Points
- 113
- Ethnic group
- Italian-Sicily-South
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- I2-M223>I-Y5362
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H2A3
My update Dodecad 12B distances (< 10 rounded cutoff) for Ancient Roman Samples using new Coordinates from Jovialis from post #146. Quick comparison, using previous coordinates, R56 was 2.59, R52 was 2.76 and R122 was 3.29. R437, my only Iron Age Roman < 10 for Dodecad 12B was 4.18 using previous coordinates vs. 5.04 using updated sample.
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #58FF00, align: right"]2.59038607[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.27239973[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7CFF00, align: right"]3.63329052[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7EFF00, align: right"]3.70577927[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #83FF00, align: right"]3.84983117[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.10471680[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8DFF00, align: right"]4.13712461[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #96FF00, align: right"]4.42310977[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]4.50883577[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9CFF00, align: right"]4.57668002[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]4.77676669[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]4.79990625[/TD]
[TD]R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A5FF00, align: right"]4.83867751[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]4.98957914[/TD]
[TD]R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.04354042[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.08786792[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.23258063[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.33080669[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46635162[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C1FF00, align: right"]5.68953425[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.73152685[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.74089714[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03403679[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]6.20069351[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.28965818[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.35270808[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.46672251[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.82267543[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.89158182[/TD]
[TD]R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.15190184[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]7.20115963[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]7.83878817[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21912404[/TD]
[TD]R137_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.25895877[/TD]
[TD]R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27022974[/TD]
[TD]R32_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.36796272[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.95826992[/TD]
[TD]R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.13036144[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.46683685[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.63039978[/TD]
[TD]R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75570090[/TD]
[TD]R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.76855670[/TD]
[TD]R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAC00, align: right"]9.94731119[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9E00, align: right"]10.36081560[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9E00, align: right"]10.36353704[/TD]
[TD]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.5904% / 2.59038607 | ADC: 2x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]100.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.1514% / 2.15140443 | ADC: 1x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]12.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 1.1866% / 1.18664539 | ADC: 0.5x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]52.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]19.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R80_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.6679% / 0.66793760 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]28.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]21.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R80_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #58FF00, align: right"]2.59038607[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]3.27239973[/TD]
[TD]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7CFF00, align: right"]3.63329052[/TD]
[TD]R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7EFF00, align: right"]3.70577927[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #83FF00, align: right"]3.84983117[/TD]
[TD]R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.10471680[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8DFF00, align: right"]4.13712461[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #96FF00, align: right"]4.42310977[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]4.50883577[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9CFF00, align: right"]4.57668002[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]4.77676669[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]4.79990625[/TD]
[TD]R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A5FF00, align: right"]4.83867751[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]4.98957914[/TD]
[TD]R836_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ABFF00, align: right"]5.04354042[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ADFF00, align: right"]5.08786792[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B2FF00, align: right"]5.23258063[/TD]
[TD]R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.33080669[/TD]
[TD]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]5.46635162[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C1FF00, align: right"]5.68953425[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.73152685[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.74089714[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]6.03403679[/TD]
[TD]R107_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]6.20069351[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]6.28965818[/TD]
[TD]R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.35270808[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]6.46672251[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.82267543[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]6.89158182[/TD]
[TD]R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F3FF00, align: right"]7.15190184[/TD]
[TD]R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]7.20115963[/TD]
[TD]R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]7.83878817[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]8.21912404[/TD]
[TD]R137_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.25895877[/TD]
[TD]R30_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27022974[/TD]
[TD]R32_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.36796272[/TD]
[TD]R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCD00, align: right"]8.95826992[/TD]
[TD]R50_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC800, align: right"]9.13036144[/TD]
[TD]R1287_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBC00, align: right"]9.46683685[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.63039978[/TD]
[TD]R114_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75570090[/TD]
[TD]R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.76855670[/TD]
[TD]R125_Imperial_Era_Casale_del_Dolce[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAC00, align: right"]9.94731119[/TD]
[TD]R1285_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9E00, align: right"]10.36081560[/TD]
[TD]R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9E00, align: right"]10.36353704[/TD]
[TD]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.5904% / 2.59038607 | ADC: 2x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]100.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 2.1514% / 2.15140443 | ADC: 1x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]12.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 1.1866% / 1.18664539 | ADC: 0.5x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]52.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]19.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R80_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: PalermoTrapani
Distance: 0.6679% / 0.66793760 | ADC: 0.25x[/TH]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]28.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]21.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]9.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R45_Imperial_Era_Isola_Sacra_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R80_Imperial_Era_Viale_Rossini_Necropolis[/TD]
[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.2[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
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italouruguayan
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- R1B U106 L44
- mtDNA haplogroup
- A2
Mine Dodecad K 12
Distance to: italouruguayan
Beyond the obvious distances, I think it is a pattern similar to those originating in Northern Italy
14.49613397 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
15.10816667 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
15.22995404 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
15.88132866 R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
16.09330606 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
16.18212285 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
16.54376620 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
16.54425278 R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
16.80742990 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
16.97161159 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
17.10969024 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
18.57265194 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
18.65686737 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
18.66116556 R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
18.88363313 R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
19.00279190 R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
19.04756152 R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
19.15197901 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
19.45814739 R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
19.83336835 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
20.19679182 R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
20.32977127 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
20.38448675 R62_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
20.61857658 R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
20.65616857 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
Distance to: italouruguayan
Beyond the obvious distances, I think it is a pattern similar to those originating in Northern Italy
14.49613397 R105_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
15.10816667 R55_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
15.22995404 R1_Iron_Age_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro
15.88132866 R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo
16.09330606 R1221_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
16.18212285 R61_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
16.54376620 R474_Iron_Age_Civitavecchia
16.54425278 R108_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
16.80742990 R33_Late_Antiquity_Mausole_di_Augusto
16.97161159 R36_Late_Antiquity_Celio
17.10969024 R1220_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
18.57265194 R110_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
18.65686737 R1224_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
18.66116556 R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
18.88363313 R109_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
19.00279190 R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
19.04756152 R121_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
19.15197901 R120_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
19.45814739 R106_Late_Antiquity_Crypta_Balbi
19.83336835 R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche
20.19679182 R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
20.32977127 R1283_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
20.38448675 R62_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
20.61857658 R1219_Medieval_Era_Cancelleria
20.65616857 R111_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
Dimanto Ruben
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Palermo Trapani
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Dimanto_Ruben: Your results are 100% consistent with what I have seen from other folks with 100% of their ancestors from Southern Italy/Sicily. R437 is my closest Iron Age Roman sample as it is for other Southerners. My Dodecad 12B are posted in 172. Salento and Jovialis ancestors are from Puglia, so the 3 of us are all Americans of Italian ancestry whose ancestors are all 100% from Southern Italy (Puglia for them) and Sicily for me.
Dimanto Ruben
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My closest is R56, not R437, just like post 172. Do you know where this sample originated from and if it had recent ancestry from the Eastern Med?
Palermo Trapani
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I don't want to say anything 100%, but it is unlikely. My reasoning is based on the following findings from the Antonio et al 2019 paper, the Medieval Italians from their study plotted right on modern Central Italians. Here is a direct quote from the paper:
"The Medieval period and increasing ties to Europe. In the Medieval and early modern periods (n = 28 individuals), we observe an ancestry shift toward central and northern Europe in PCA (Fig. 3E), as well as a further increase in the European cluster (C7) and loss of the Near Eastern and eastern Mediterranean clusters (C4 and C5) in ChromoPainter (Fig. 4C). The Medieval population is roughly centered on modern-day central Italians (Fig. 3F)."
So reading that, those Medieval Samples that you, me included, are probably similar to people in modern Lazio or even Umbria. The Medieval samples that are closer to modern Tuscany, at least the Northern half, are in my case a little further as those from all the literature I have read drift towards Liguria and Piedmont, etc. R437 is an Iron Age Roman, so much earlier, from the Republican period. R437 is my closest Iron Age Roman. From all the folks here with ancestry from the South of Italy and Sicily, that is the Iron Age sample that everyone is closest too. Just in this thread, Jovialis and Salento (ancestors from Puglia) and me (Sicily) are close to R437. From what you reported in your post, you are as well.
Jovialis just posted earlier in the thread, he has all the G25 coordinates for the samples and he can run the plots on the samples and provide really neat graphs.
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Palermo Trapani
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Very interesting results:
Very good information, so R437 is an ancient Roman with ties to Puglia per My True Ancestry. Good to know.
Jovialis
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Another interesting observation is that R437 has links to Bronze Age Hungary, and the Sicily Beaker.
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Another interesting observation is that R437 has links to Bronze Age Hungary, and the Sicily Beaker.
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