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[blevins13]

And to continue,

the body that was brought to Forensic seurgeon lawyer,
is already washed with chemicals !!!!!!
and wounds are neetled, closed,
that means that correct precedure can not be done,

YET by the type and size of wounds
THE EXTRACT is that he was shot Standing and with open hands,
THAT MEANS EXECUTION OF A SURRENDERED

And the question is who gave the order and why?


POLICE JOB IS NOT TO KILL,
POLICE IS TO SERVE JUSTICE,
RESTORE ORDER,
AND PROTECT CIVILIANS
SO IN THIS AS IN MANY OTHER CASES (like 2011)
seems that there is either a political 'finger' behind,
Either clear unproffesional,

in first case Albanian justice must find who,
in Second case, many Police high Officers sent to prison,

Shooting one who surrenders is not allowed even in Army,
how about Police,

after shooting the guy from a distance of 25 meters about,
they drag him around 60 meters and brought him probably to a high commander
who shot him in head,
that means not only was executed although surrender,
but also the body of the dead was tortured,

in 20th Century, what that could mean?

It seems that for 30 minutes a negotiation process has occurred......there is a film for that and also there is a film how he was killed. At some point Albanian police will release it.... but remember, for the police he was not a civilian but an armed person in military gear shooting at the police.


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[LABERIA]

They might poison him, or use and Albanian to kill him.....all habits never die.


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[h=1]Enrico Tellini[/h]

 

[Yetos]

I think
we all realized
he was not a terrorist
he was not mental ill

now we must wait the second report of Forensic lawyers
although due to body wash with chlores and hydroxides
may comblicated the case,

 

[blevins13]

I think
we all realized
he was not a terrorist
he was not mental ill

now we must wait the second report of Forensic lawyers
although due to body wash with chlores and hydroxides
may comblicated the case,

Why you hide behind the finger..... claim him don’t be afraid.....he is a “freedom fighter” dressed in Rambo gear shooting at the Albanian police, not a lunatic.....


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[LABERIA]

Google translator:

Statement of UAJ
The threats of Greek extremists and nationalists against journalist Artan Hoxha a danger and provocation on the fundamental freedoms of the journalism between the two countries

Tiranë
on 31.10.2018

Albanian and Greek media have published aggressive reactions and threats of the wellknown nationalist individuals against the investigative journalist Artan Hoxha during the last three days.

Colleague Hoxha published serious threats of these individuals and extremist circles of Greek nationalism, to him first on the personal pages of social networks. The threats at the address of journalist Hoxha came after the reports and statements he publicly displayed about the incident and the murder of a citizen with two citizenship, from Bularati of the district of Gjirokastra, to the late Kostandinos Kacifas. On the social networking pages of colleague Artan Hoxha Greek extremists and individuals known for verbal and committed radicality, express their determination for primitive revenge on a journalist who respects his views freely expressed in the public opinion and the media of our country. The Union of Albanian Journalists expresses its concern about such threats coming from the neighboring country and appeals for the opening investigations of this case by the General Prosecutor of Greece.

We ask the authorities of the Republic of Albania to seriously evaluate this threat and in legal cooperation with the Greek side to clarify the authorship of these threats to bring legal responsibility to the perpetrators of this aggression against individual and journalistic freedom.

Press Office

Union of Albanian Journalists

http://shqiptarja.com/lajm/kercenim...azetareve-athina-dhe-tirana-te-gjejne-autoret

P.S.
Few days ago, in this forum you can read this:

PS
to Artan Hotza or Hoxha,
salutations,
Find the trooth and then Speak

 

[ihype02]

I think
we all realized
he was not a terrorist
he was not mental ill

now we must wait the second report of Forensic lawyers
although due to body wash with chlores and hydroxides
may comblicated the case,

He was a terrorist by the modern definition of the word. And the doctor agrees that he was shot in distance twice.

 

[Yetos]

Artan Hoxha and E Rama
are more terrorists than the Boy,

Do not hide a crime,
There was a crime there,
and we all show videos
and soon we will find more by Forensic surgeons,

It is well known that the one who hide the truth
Live in the Lie,

lets wait little more,

cause if the thing that the forensic told
that he died standing with open wide arms
when got the chest in bullet

WE CAN NOT HAVE BETTER VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS,
POLICE BRUTALITY
CRIMES AGAINST HUMAN NATURE
POLITICAL EXECUTIONS

not even in S America Dictatorships such things happen

Artan Hoxha is obvious supports police criminality, anihillation,
and many other, which I will not expand,


And Rama family are the worst provocatives I can see,
specially using Partizan Football to pass Hate and Racism

why no Judge did not makes a search on the hate Signal Flag that was raised in Tirana???
Because the club Belongs to Rama?
SUCH THINGS REMINDS THE WW2 NAZI and ....

 

[Salento]

From a neutral perspective.
Just the act and not the reasons.

Universal Rules:

Depending on the weapon, it should ALWAYS be kept in a proper container, holster, or behind the belt.
When necessary, or asked by authorities, must be held in a non-threatening way.

The belief is: in a public place, the only reason for brandishing or pointing a weapon is to actually use it.

An officer, or a civilian if armed and capable, will immediately confront, no question asked, and retaliate with deadly force.

End of story.

 

[Yetos]

The role of Police

The primary duty of a police officer is to protect people and property. Common duties of police include controlling traffic, patrolling neighborhoods, responding to emergency calls, writing citations, delivering warrants, arresting violators and submitting incident reports in a timely manner. Police are also called occasionally to testify in court about a situation they witnessed or handled. Additionally, duties of police include educational outreach to the public to help prevent and solve crime. A typical day varies depending on the jurisdiction and agency type. For example, a police officer in the inner city typically spends more time responding to 911 calls and investigating crimes than a small town sheriff in a remote area.


The job of a police officer is risky, and officers incur a higher rate of illnesses and injury than the national average for other jobs. Officers spend a great deal of time working with criminals and dealing with threatening scenarios, such as intervening in a domestic assault or foiling a burglary. As a result, the possibility of conflicts and physical injury exist when attempting to apprehend a suspect. Many of the risks associated with a law enforcement career can be minimized by police officers following proper procedures.


Police officers are part of law enforcement, or the group of people tasked with the prevention of crime and apprehension of offenders. In other words, law enforcement officials, including police officers, investigate and prevent crimes from happening.



POLICE DOES NOT MEAN LEGAL LISENCE TO BULLY CITIZENS,
POLICE DOES NOT MEAN LEGAL LISENCE TO EXECUTE
POLICE PRIMARY CONCERN IS TO BRING TO JUSTICE THE SUSPECTS AND THE QUILTY

NOT TO WOUND A POSSIBLY QUILTY WHEN SURRENDER,
NEITHER TO EXECUTE A WOUNDED BOY.


When a policeman is bulling is a criminal
when a policeman executes the possible quilty HE MADE HIMSHELF GOD, HE JUST JUDGE,
THAT IS WHY HE SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE

 

[blevins13]

The role of Police

The primary duty of a police officer is to protect people and property. Common duties of police include controlling traffic, patrolling neighborhoods, responding to emergency calls, writing citations, delivering warrants, arresting violators and submitting incident reports in a timely manner. Police are also called occasionally to testify in court about a situation they witnessed or handled. Additionally, duties of police include educational outreach to the public to help prevent and solve crime. A typical day varies depending on the jurisdiction and agency type. For example, a police officer in the inner city typically spends more time responding to 911 calls and investigating crimes than a small town sheriff in a remote area.


The job of a police officer is risky, and officers incur a higher rate of illnesses and injury than the national average for other jobs. Officers spend a great deal of time working with criminals and dealing with threatening scenarios, such as intervening in a domestic assault or foiling a burglary. As a result, the possibility of conflicts and physical injury exist when attempting to apprehend a suspect. Many of the risks associated with a law enforcement career can be minimized by police officers following proper procedures.


Police officers are part of law enforcement, or the group of people tasked with the prevention of crime and apprehension of offenders. In other words, law enforcement officials, including police officers, investigate and prevent crimes from happening.



POLICE DOES NOT MEAN LEGAL LISENCE TO BULLY CITIZENS,
POLICE DOES NOT MEAN LEGAL LISENCE TO EXECUTE
POLICE PRIMARY CONCERN IS TO BRING TO JUSTICE THE SUSPECTS AND THE QUILTY

NOT TO WOUND A POSSIBLY QUILTY WHEN SURRENDER,
NEITHER TO EXECUTE A WOUNDED BOY.


When a policeman is bulling is a criminal
when a policeman executes the possible quilty HE MADE HIMSHELF GOD, HE JUST JUDGE,
THAT IS WHY HE SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE

A Rambo trying to liberate his compatriots in South Albania (mainly retired people that spend their day at the cafeteria ️ of the village with pensions paid with the money of the EU). Hail to the hero...::long live his memory.


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[Yetos]

a rambo trying to liberate his compatriots in south albania (mainly retired people that spend their day at the cafeteria ️ of the village with pensions paid with the money of the eu). Hail to the hero...::long live his memory.


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offcourse

but i do not see any rambo here,
neither a revolt,
i only a provoked by the police citizen who has problems with a certain Policeman,
WHO MAKE BULLY ON HIM

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IN A DAY THAT ONLY THE QUESTS ARE MORE THAN 1800 PERSONS,
YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT HE STARTED A REVOLUTION BY HIS OWN?
YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS MENTALLY ILL
SO HE COULD WIN THE WHOLE ALBANIAN POLICE AND ARMED FORCES?


THERE MUST BE SOME SHAME HERE,



AS FOR RAMBO
RAMBO's ANGER START FROM POLICE BRUTALITY
THE SAME TRICK THAT ALBANIAN POLICE USED AGAINST THE BOY,

THE ALBANIAN POLICEMAN INFRONT HIM DOWHUL ONE FLAG,
WHY? HAD HE SUCH ORDER? SURELY NO cause then all Flags should Dowhulled,
SO HE DID A BULLING ACT AND PROVOCATIVE BEHAVOUR,
the policeman ,either hate, or was a racist, it is clear and obvious
WHEN THE BOY ASK WHY?
THE ALBANIAN POLICEMAN SHOW HIM HIS GUN
AND AS THE BOY TURN HIS BACK
THE POLICEMAN ARMED HIS GUN,

WHO IS THE BULLING HERE?

we have no terrorism,
we have no mental illness,
WE HAVE POLICE AND STATE BRUTALITY HERE
IT IS OBVIOUS
AND THE BOY REACT
AS RAMBO IN THE MOVIE.

ONLY IN SICK MINDS
BLINDED BY HATE
TRUTH CAN NOT BE REVEILED

RAMBO WAS NOT A TERRORIST
RAMBO GOT PERSONAL AFFAIRS WITH LOCAL SHERRIFF
BY POLICE BULLING
SAME AS KATSIFAS
WHO IS VICTIM OF POLICE BULLING AND RENYA BRUTALITY

 

[Yetos]

THAT IS WHAT ANGER RAMBO
<strong>

Same way, different Bulling method
anger Katsifas,

ONLY THE BULLING CRIMINAL POLICEMAN IS FREE WITH HIS KIDS,
BUT KATSIFAS IS EXECUTED,
ALTHOUGH HE SURRENDERED

 

[Yetos]

come on it is typical for Albanian armed police to shoot
even protesters, demonstrators etc.

I wonder do they ever found and punish this policeman?

 

[LABERIA]

A Rambo trying to liberate his compatriots in South Albania (mainly retired people that spend their day at the cafeteria ️ of the village with pensions paid with the money of the EU). Hail to the hero...::long live his memory.


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One of the most important Greek politicians of the last 30 years, Theodoros Pangalos called him(Katcifas) τσογλάνι, in English scoundrel. He said that not only villages of greek minority were covered with Greek flags but there were so many flags that the view was ugly. Here is the video. And the title, insipired from the words of Pangalos, is very interesting:

«Όποιος κραδαίνει όπλο να πυροβολείται αμέσως από την Αστυνομία!»: Ο Θ. Πάγκαλος στον ΣΚΑΪ (1/11/18)
«Everyone who brandish a gun to be shot immediately by the Police!»: T. Pangalos ΣΚΑΪ (1/11/18)

 

[Yetos]

One of the most important Greek politicians of the last 30 years, Theodoros Pangalos called him(Katcifas) τσογλάνι, in English scoundrel. He said that not only villages of greek minority were covered with Greek flags but there were so many flags that the view was ugly. Here is the video. And the title, insipired from the words of Pangalos, is very interesting:

«Όποιος κραδαίνει όπλο να πυροβολείται αμέσως από την Αστυνομία!»: Ο Θ. Πάγκαλος στον ΣΚΑΪ (1/11/18)
«Everyone who brandish a gun to be shot immediately by the Police!»: T. Pangalos ΣΚΑΪ (1/11/18)

PAGKALOS IS THE MOST STUPID POLITICIAN EVER

HE WAS POLITICIAN CAUSE HIS FORTUNE IS SO BIG THAT COULD OLD 75 Appartments
IT IS THE SAME WHO CALLED GERMANS STUPIDS FOR CRISIS
THE SAME WHO ALWAYS WHEN HE SPEAKS GREEKS LAUGH,
If you ever watch Greek TV,
Every week WHEN WAS ACTIVE HE WAS SATYRIZED BY COMMEDIANS,
HE HAS SO MUCH FORTUNE THAT COULD BUY EVEN THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT



Find a serious politician,

Pagkalos is of the guys that if war starts will leave the country
and not only,
he is connected with foreign strange spy networks,


Just Look what common logic you write
And way of Thinking you 'kiss'


''He said that not only villages of greek minority were covered with Greek flags but there were so many flags that the view was ugly.''

AND BECAUSE THE VIEW WAS UGLY AS PAGKALOS SAYS
THE BOY SHOULD BE EXECUTED BY POLICE, CORRECT?

When your Wife dry YOUR LAUNDRY at the balkony, The view is more ugly
Why Police does NOT executed your wife?

Pagkalos simply logic!!!!!!

 

[LABERIA]

Antonis Liakos

Curriculum Vitae

Antonis Liakos​

Antonis Liakos (1947) is professor of contemporary history and history of historiography at the University of Athens http://www.uoa.gr/ , chair of the Board of the International Commission for History and Τheory of Historiography (2010-2015) http://www.historiographyinternational.org/ and managing editor of Historein (http://www.nnet.gr/historein.htm ).
Born inAthens1947, he was imprisoned by the Junta in 1969, while student of history at the UniversityofThessaloniki. Released in 1973, took his BA in 1977, and his PhD in 1984. Lecturer and assistant professor at the University of Thessaloniki from 1980 to 1990, when he was elected professor at the Department of History and Archeology at the University of Athens. Research fellow and visiting professor at the University of Birmingham (1989), European University Institute (1995), University of Sydney (1995) University of Princeton (1996, 2006), Ecole Normale Superieure (2001), member of the Board of the European Doctorate in Social History (2005-20010).

Department of History and Archaeology, University of Athens
Address: Department of History and Archaeology, Philosophiki Building, University Campus, 15784Athens, Office 616
Email: [email protected]
Research specialisation



History of ModernGreeceandItaly, Social History, History and Theory of Historiography, Historical Culture

The Curriculum Vitae continue with publications of Professor Liakos.
Professor Liakos was in Bularat the day of the incident. His declaration:
Google translator:

Antonis Liakos on the death of Katsifas: "There was no incident with the raising or lowering of the Greek flag"

"Most people did not even understand the incident at a completely different point," says the university student, who was in the Vouliarates on the day the homonym was killed
"There has been no incident with the raising or lowering of the Greek flag," said Professor Antonis Liakos, who, along with his partner and Minister of Culture, Myrsini Zorba, spoke at the ceremony in honor of the dead in the cemetery of the village Vouliarates , two days ago.

Professor of the University of Athens, who is also chair of the National Dialogue Committee on Education, participated in the crowd delegation of 300 people attending the event last Sunday, the day that Greek expatriate Konstantinos Katsifas killed by the Albanian police.

"There is a Greek-Albanian committee that carries out the identifications of the dead and their burial. For the first time a formal ceremony was held with a representative of the Greek government. It was a very busy and moving moment when relatives of the dead came from all over Greece. Most people did not even understand the incident at a completely different point.There was no incident with raising or lowering the Greek flag ".

Again Professor Liakos for another greek newspaper, efsyn.gr:
Google translation:

The time of the bloody incident

Everything happened in the village of Vouliarates, near Gjirokastra, where Sunday was scheduled and a memorial event was held for the Greek soldiers who were killed during the Greek-Italian war. At the ceremony, approximately 300 people were present, including Culture Minister Myrsini Zorba, who wrought a crown on behalf of the Greek government.

The event, as reported by historian Antonis Liakos, was attended by representatives of the military authorities, schools and ordinary citizens. The military cemetery was marked with Greek and Albanian flags, a Greek trance was performed, the Greek national anthem was singled out, and children from the schools proclaimed poems.

In the morning, however, before the anniversary celebrations commenced, the episode with the Greek expatriate, who had occupied the center of the village and shooted in the air with a Kalashnikov. According to what says to efsyn.gr Antonis Liakos, there was no incident with raising the Greek flag or lowering it.

The police pushed the young man out of the village and he headed for the mountains. Police helicopters chased him and called on him to deliver his gun. He allegedly refused and the police shot him and killed him.

 

[Yetos]

Antonis Liakos

The Curriculum Vitae continue with publications of Professor Liakos.
Professor Liakos was in Bularat the day of the incident. His declaration:
Google translator:


Again Professor Liakos for another greek newspaper, efsyn.gr:
Google translation:

FUNNY ISN"T IT?

ALL THE HIGH OFFICERS WHO WERE IN ΒΟΥΛΙΑΡΑΤΕΣ 28/10
SAY THE SAME THING,

WE DID NOT SEE ANY DOWNHULL OF THE MANY FLAGS
CAUSE ALL WHERE IN THE SAME PLACE, THE CEMETERY,

YET AT GREEK JUSTICE INVESTIGATORS
THERE ARE TESTIMONIES OF EYE WITNESS OF THE DOWNHULL OF ONE OUT TWO FLAGS THAT KATSIFAS RAISED.
AND THE POLICEMAN WITH HIS GUN TO KATSIFAS?

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT POLICE DOES NOT MAKE BULLYING AT THE CENTER WHERE DIPLOMATS ARE, (BOTH GREEK AND ALBANIAN)
BUT AWAY, IN LESS TRAFFIC ROADS<

SO AGAIN LABERIA YOU TELL US NOTHING


AS FOR PAGKALOS,

There is no need to mention his stupidity,

 

[LABERIA]

Laberia thanks for showing with his own Greek media that Yetos is lying and trying to manipulate people on Eupedia. I am disgusted by his calculatedly disingenuous, deceitful, underhanded, manipulative, and conniving posts.

Look what he does. I have quoted some respected persons in Greece, this case the professor Antonios Liakos. He has declared the same thing in two different newspapers:

Antonis Liakos

Professor Liakos was in Bularat the day of the incident. His declaration:
Google translator:

Antonis Liakos on the death of Katsifas: "There was no incident with the raising or lowering of the Greek flag"

Again Professor Liakos for another greek newspaper, efsyn.gr:

In the morning, however, before the anniversary celebrations commenced, the episode with the Greek expatriate, who had occupied the center of the village and shooted in the air with a Kalashnikov. According to what says to efsyn.gr Antonis Liakos, there was no incident with raising the Greek flag or lowering it.

Google translation:

Read how he transform the words of others:

FUNNY ISN"T IT?

ALL THE HIGH OFFICERS WHO WERE IN ΒΟΥΛΙΑΡΑΤΕΣ 28/10
SAY THE SAME THING,

WE DID NOT SEE ANY DOWNHULL OF THE MANY FLAGS
CAUSE ALL WHERE IN THE SAME PLACE, THE CEMETERY,

He (Liakos), and other respected people like him, Greek citizens who were present on the spot explicitly say that there was no incident with the Greek flag.
Totally a different things.
This individual, with his posts has a really offensive attitude, as if he wants to say to others, all of you who read my posts are idiots.
However, this is a matter that is the responsibility of other people.

 

[Yetos]

Look what he does. I have quoted some respected persons in Greece, this case the professor Antonios Liakos. He has declared the same thing in two different newspapers:

Read how he transform the words of others:

He (Liakos), and other respected people like him, Greek citizens who were present on the spot explicitly say that there was no incident with the Greek flag.
Totally a different things.
This individual, with his posts has a really offensive attitude, as if he wants to say to others, all of you who read my posts are idiots.
However, this is a matter that is the responsibility of other people.

offcourse,
but in Greek justice people testify that there was one dowhull,
one of the big ones the boy had,

you post every crup of PAGKALOS KRANIDIOTIS ETC
BUT YOU DO NOT POST THE REPORTS OF THE GREEK JUSTICE AND POLICE WHY?

WHY you do not post the result of the forensic lawyer surgeon??????

WHICH SAYS THAT THE BOY WAS SHOOTED BY 25 METERS in chest and by less in head,
AND THE SHOOT WAS WHILE HE WAS STANDING WITH OPEN HANDS?

PLZ CAN YOU FIND AND POST IT?
I am certain No you can't
cause truth is like a pain in the ass

So plz read and post/link us the results of the forensic lawyer surgeon
But you won't

STANDING WITH OPEN HANDS IS NOT A POSITION THAT CAN SOMEONE SHOOT, OR HOLD A GUN,
IT A POSITION OF someone who SURRENDER

Shooting a guy who surrenders IS IT A CRIME OR NOT?

maybe Albanian police is the same time police, judge, and executioner,
by constitunional law?????
Is that happening?

 

[Johane Derite]

Look what he does.

Yeah he is literally trying everything possible to derail. He is trying to shift attention away from the Terrorist incident and where it leads the discussion. (Golden Dawn, Vorio Epir, etc)

Also, he is referring to a 35 year old man as "The Boy" to make him appear a child and manipulate with people's empathy. Since when are 35 year olds children?