venetian blue is only a colour - a mix of blue and green. ........it means nothing.
veneti didnot mean blue...
it may be related to proto-Celtic word 'windo' meaning white...
if you search for 'blue' as related to nations, you should look into Cumans
they were called "Polovtsi" (=blue/blonde people, with blue being blue color but also meaning blonde for hair colours in slavic languages) by Slavic people, and
Folban and Vallani by Germans, by Germans... Folban also meant 'blonde'... they called themselves
Kipchaks.. in tukish word Cuman meant 'pale yellow'...
if they were really more 'blonde' than environment from which they came (which is the only explanation for calling them 'blonde') it probably is about turkicized tribe of Indo-European origin... this places proto-Cumans into Caucasus people that were turkicized...
name Vallani could be same as Sarmatian tribe Vales/Vali from Caucasus part of Asian Sarmatia, while Folban may be related to Caucasian Albania..... those are areas that were turkicized somewhat prior to appearance of Cumans... So in my opinion Cumans were turkicized Indo-European people of Caucasus, namely Vali/Vales and Caucasian Albanians..
It is hard to guess what haplogroups were Cumans made of as we do not have any nation claiming descent from them....
Cumans had large area of influence...at thieir highest point their state was as large as this:
note that core from which they spread is easily Caucasian Albania, as south most central part of biggest Kipchak empire matches shapes of Caucasian Albania perfectly... so in my opinion we have Caucasian Albanians spreading to north and than to both east and west...under name of Kipchak....
Cumans were also present and very influential in Balkans in early medieval period...e.g. town Kumanovo in west Macedonia is named after Kumans...east and south of Kumanovo
Albanian or
Shqiptar settlements start... exonym Albanians matches exonym Folban, and self-identication Shqiptar does resemble to some extent the self-identification Kipchak
I do not claim that Albanians origin from Cumans, as genetics of Albanians is very Balkan mix, and in my opinion maps to previous inhabitants of Balkan such as Illyrians... but I do think that tribal name of Albanians both exonym Albanians and self-identification Shqiptars might be related to Cumans... who perhaps were elite warriors that came and organized local population...
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same is with Greeks (rightfully or not) refusing to acknowledge use of name Macedonians for south Slavic tribe living north of them...
Are not the ancient macedonians extinct!
I thought so...but you should ask Greeks and FYR Macedonians.... cause it seems they disagree...
you offended me personally because i told you twice before I was not albanian and still you try to use this to insult my posts, trying to say my posts are nationaltic
áll your posts strongly suggest Albanian nationality... I do not see why would you be offended by someone thinking you are Albanian... Albanians are just people as anyone else, they are not sheeps or some lower race...
do you deny that serbians original name was servian?
you have another retarded argument here...
you where brainwashed in school by the yugoslv doctrine , like
Sbri....narod najstariji ( serbs an ancient people ) by Olga lukovic-Pjanovic
this was taught to you over and over ( brainwashed) , my slovene and croat friends said they lived with this rubbish of an education as well
don't make me laugh....
such books were never mentioned in schools and were generally always laughed out in all decent public media...
either your Croat and Slovene friends are lying you, or you are lying.... I doubt any Croat or Slovene would ever claim stg. you said above.... so, in my opinion it is the second case... that is also consistent with suspect that you lie about your nationality...
