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I'm going to use this thread to post information I find on E1b1b1-M35 and J2-M410 in Italy/Balkans in the future.
I'm thinking of making a Y DNA blog like I did for mtDNA, so I've been looking at Y DNA studies. The results for Italy and Balkans are interesting because both share high frequencies of E1b1b1-M35 and J2-M410 which are the primary lineages of West Asia.
Italy and Balkans are unlike any-other region in Europe because of E1b and J2. In all other regions in Europe post-Neolithic founder effect-lineages dominate: R1b-L151 in West Europe, I1/R1a-Z284/R1b-U106 in Scandinavia, R1a-Z282 and I2a1b2 in East Europe, N1c1 in Far East Europe.
What's the relation between Italy/Balkan and West Asian J/E1b? Data I've looked at so far prove most Italy/Balkan E1b belong to the same lineage as most other European E1b but not West Asian. This means most Italy/Balkan split a very long time ago from West Asian E1b. My guess is the split occurred in the Neolithic or earlier(Mesolithic?). Maciamo has a theorizes E1b-V13 was picked up by Neolithic farmers from West Asia and is of pre-Neolithic origin in Mediterranean Europe.
J2 in Italy and the Balkans is a little differnt, because most Balkan J2 is J2b. I haven't found any high resolution J2 data, and so don't have much to say about possible origins. My guess is most arrived from West Asia after the Neolithic.
I'm thinking of making a Y DNA blog like I did for mtDNA, so I've been looking at Y DNA studies. The results for Italy and Balkans are interesting because both share high frequencies of E1b1b1-M35 and J2-M410 which are the primary lineages of West Asia.
Italy and Balkans are unlike any-other region in Europe because of E1b and J2. In all other regions in Europe post-Neolithic founder effect-lineages dominate: R1b-L151 in West Europe, I1/R1a-Z284/R1b-U106 in Scandinavia, R1a-Z282 and I2a1b2 in East Europe, N1c1 in Far East Europe.
What's the relation between Italy/Balkan and West Asian J/E1b? Data I've looked at so far prove most Italy/Balkan E1b belong to the same lineage as most other European E1b but not West Asian. This means most Italy/Balkan split a very long time ago from West Asian E1b. My guess is the split occurred in the Neolithic or earlier(Mesolithic?). Maciamo has a theorizes E1b-V13 was picked up by Neolithic farmers from West Asia and is of pre-Neolithic origin in Mediterranean Europe.
J2 in Italy and the Balkans is a little differnt, because most Balkan J2 is J2b. I haven't found any high resolution J2 data, and so don't have much to say about possible origins. My guess is most arrived from West Asia after the Neolithic.