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K12b Eupedia Ancient Ethnicities Checker: reliably compare your DNA to ancient populations

I have added the 6th-century samples from Collegno, Piedmont from the Lombard study.

Using all samples (Italians, Lombards and mixed), the closest modern populations are Friuli (6.3), Trentino (7.2) and Aosta Valley (7.9).

Taking into account only samples that seemed to be Italian with no Germanic ancestry, the closest populations are Abruzzo (4.0), Marche (5.8), Lazio, Campania and Sicily (all three around 6.0).
 
^^Great update!

Here are my results, I get a good fit with the 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) cohort:

GFLmG7J.png
 
Update #242

Duarte
Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
Etruscans_(n=3)
Latins_(n=4)
Villanovans_(n=2)
Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
Bronze_Age_Illyrians
Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5)
Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7)
6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture_(n=4)
Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22)
Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38)
Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hungary_(n=12)
Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)

[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]

[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.17150711[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #E4FF00, align: right"]6.71266713[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF8D00, align: right"]10.86048341[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.27186764[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF6200, align: right"]12.12435978[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.33091895[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF2100, align: right"]14.03098001[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF2000, align: right"]14.05696980[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF1000, align: right"]14.52055095[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0500, align: right"]14.84792915[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0002, align: right"]15.04884381[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0005, align: right"]15.13849068[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0007, align: right"]15.21667178[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF000A, align: right"]15.30209790[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF000B, align: right"]15.31625933[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF002B, align: right"]16.25126149[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0034, align: right"]16.54298643[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF003C, align: right"]16.76632041[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0054, align: right"]17.46561765[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0083, align: right"]18.85846229[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF0086, align: right"]18.93396947[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C2, align: right"]20.69150309[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C3, align: right"]20.72670500[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C6, align: right"]20.81037962[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C7, align: right"]20.83913626[/TD]

 
With info from post 242 added...mine is


Distance to:Torziok12b
Bronze_Age_Illyrians
6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
Villanovans_(n=2)
Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2"]Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 1.0953% / 1.09528753 | ADC: 0.25x RC
[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]33.0
[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]27.4[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"]22.7[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)[/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn"] 16.9
 [/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"] 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24) [/TD]

[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"][/TD]



[TABLE="class: distances"]

[TD="bgcolor: hsl(77.39753997713278, 100%, 50%)"]5.32530750[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: hsl(70.40903308061033, 100%, 50%)"]6.19887086[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: hsl(68.25279910951704, 100%, 50%)"]6.46840011[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: hsl(56.51104032983373, 100%, 50%)"]7.93611996[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: hsl(49.337897002707294, 100%, 50%)"]8.83276287[/TD]



[/TABLE]
 
Jovialis said:
^^Great update!

Here are my results, I get a good fit with the 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7) cohort:

GFLmG7J.png
Click to expand...

PCA with the new additions for Italy:

WcOlOwx.png
 
Updates from Maciamo post #242.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani_Combined[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7DFF00, align: right"]3.68146710[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #9AFF00, align: right"]4.53751033[/TD]
[TD]6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D8FF00, align: right"]6.36689877[/TD]
[TD]Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E8FF00, align: right"]6.83698764[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F7FF00, align: right"]7.26249957[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]9.26208940[/TD]
[TD]Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]10.19573931[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Greece_(n=6)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]10.67402923[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5000, align: right"]12.65821867[/TD]
[TD]Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2E00, align: right"]13.66139085[/TD]
[TD]Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0055, align: right"]17.50304259[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0065, align: right"]17.97204496[/TD]
[TD]Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0081, align: right"]18.78715785[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF008F, align: right"]19.21764814[/TD]
[TD]Villanovans_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0098, align: right"]19.47868835[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A4, align: right"]19.82548864[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B4, align: right"]20.30116992[/TD]
[TD]Minoan_Greece_(n=10)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C0, align: right"]20.65298526[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C4, align: right"]20.75404539[/TD]
[TD]Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C5, align: right"]20.80088940[/TD]
[TD]Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CB, align: right"]20.96465359[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D7, align: right"]21.32149151[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E2, align: right"]21.65835174[/TD]
[TD]Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E000FF, align: right"]23.41742941[/TD]
[TD]Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CC00FF, align: right"]23.99095455[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6)

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]PalermoTrapani_Combined[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2CFF00, align: right"]1.29635535[/TD]
[TD]12.40% Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Levant_(n=15) + 87.60% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2EFF00, align: right"]1.34711932[/TD]
[TD]37.20% Etruscans_(n=3) + 62.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.47263743[/TD]
[TD]70.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 30.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #34FF00, align: right"]1.52103949[/TD]
[TD]76.40% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 23.60% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #39FF00, align: right"]1.68356643[/TD]
[TD]78.80% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 21.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #39FF00, align: right"]1.68535366[/TD]
[TD]21.60% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 78.40% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3AFF00, align: right"]1.70103503[/TD]
[TD]17.20% MN_Westphalia_(Megalithic_Wartberg)_(n=6) + 82.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3BFF00, align: right"]1.73156316[/TD]
[TD]67.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 32.80% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3BFF00, align: right"]1.73926973[/TD]
[TD]6.60% Epipaleolithic_Levant_(Natufians)_(n=6) + 93.40% Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3DFF00, align: right"]1.79832498[/TD]
[TD]15.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 85.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #40FF00, align: right"]1.86990984[/TD]
[TD]43.40% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 56.60% Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #40FF00, align: right"]1.87882759[/TD]
[TD]14.80% Iron_Age_Iberia_(n=22) + 85.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #42FF00, align: right"]1.93276489[/TD]
[TD]73.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 26.80% Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #42FF00, align: right"]1.93685948[/TD]
[TD]36.60% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46) + 63.40% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #42FF00, align: right"]1.95239942[/TD]
[TD]49.00% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 51.00% Latins_(n=4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #43FF00, align: right"]1.98124270[/TD]
[TD]23.20% Early_Bronze_Age_Southern_France_(n=5) + 76.80% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.04416652[/TD]
[TD]19.00% Iron_Age_Israel_(n=6) + 81.00% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.06501846[/TD]
[TD]39.60% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=24) + 60.40% Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.06555158[/TD]
[TD]21.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 78.20% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #46FF00, align: right"]2.06923576[/TD]
[TD]48.00% Italian_Greeks_(n=2) + 52.00% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #47FF00, align: right"]2.09155085[/TD]
[TD]44.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=4) + 56.00% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #47FF00, align: right"]2.09986582[/TD]
[TD]22.00% Early_Bronze_Age_Iberia_(n=7) + 78.00% Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #48FF00, align: right"]2.12734473[/TD]
[TD]16.40% Early-Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Levant_(n=9) + 83.60% Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #48FF00, align: right"]2.13023398[/TD]
[TD]46.80% Chalcolithic_Anatolia_(n=35) + 53.20% Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4AFF00, align: right"]2.17237856[/TD]
[TD]14.80% Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Spain_(n=38) + 85.20% Italian_Greeks_(n=2)

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
New updates...


Distance to: italouruguayan


11.56324781 Western_Scythians_(n=28)
13.80911655 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_&_Lombards)_(n=24)
14.69083047 Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
16.23768764 Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
16.25998155 Bell_Beaker_Hungary_(n=6)
16.91561409 Ostrogoths_(n=3)
17.20738795 Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
17.22619517 Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
17.28995084 Bronze_Age_Illyrians
17.89198424 Medieval_Catalonia_Valencia_(n=9)
18.33555017 Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
18.58682060 Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
19.14316327 Villanovans_(n=2)
19.72882916 6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
19.86298819 Etruscans_(n=3)
20.81990874 Bell_Beaker_Poland_(n=6)
21.62285365 Gauls_Belgae_(n=16)
21.86751929 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria/Saxony_(n=20)
21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
21.99280109 Middle_Bronze_Age_North_Alps_(n=7)
22.57669816 Cimmerians_(n=6)
22.99249008 Bell_Beaker_Gaul_(n=13)
23.87470209 Early_Bronze_Age_Swabia_(n=24)
24.40309612 Bronze_Age_Germany_(n=26)
24.58744802 Latins_(n=4)
25.13049741 Chernyakhiv_culture_Goths_(n=3)
25.24729094 Bell_Beaker_Czechia_(n=15)
25.33739134 Suebi_Alemmani_(n=20)
26.52373842 Iron_Age_Kangju_(n=4)
26.82286897 Hallstatt_Celts_(n=2)
27.12488894 Roman_Britain_(n=8)
27.15390580 Lombards_(n=28)
27.68604522 Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
 
Late Antique and Middle Ages



Clearly Lombardic which is a such a NW Germanic population so makes sense imo.

In the earlier past the results are more blurred imo....
 
Maciamo said:
I have added the 6th-century samples from Collegno, Piedmont from the Lombard study.

Using all samples (Italians, Lombards and mixed), the closest modern populations are Friuli (6.3), Trentino (7.2) and Aosta Valley (7.9).

Taking into account only samples that seemed to be Italian with no Germanic ancestry, the closest populations are Abruzzo (4.0), Marche (5.8), Lazio, Campania and Sicily (all three around 6.0).
Click to expand...

This sample is also extremely close to Imperial-Age_Marche_(n=2).

As well as pretty close to the Iron Age R437:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_o)_Palestrina_Selicata[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B5FF00, align: right"]5.31416974[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E5FF00, align: right"]6.72588284[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Greece_(n=6)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]6.90958754[/TD]
[TD]6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F0FF00, align: right"]7.04519695[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]8.27300429[/TD]
[TD]Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.83409871[/TD]
[TD]Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9D00, align: right"]10.38617832[/TD]
[TD]Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9C00, align: right"]10.40333120[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8B00, align: right"]10.92016026[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0012, align: right"]15.54221992[/TD]
[TD]Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF002E, align: right"]16.33827714[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003C, align: right"]16.75771763[/TD]
[TD]Minoan_Greece_(n=10)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0056, align: right"]17.52457132[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.57787530[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006C, align: right"]18.16961750[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006D, align: right"]18.19599956[/TD]
[TD]Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0070, align: right"]18.28769805[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0077, align: right"]18.51004592[/TD]
[TD]Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0081, align: right"]18.79689868[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009B, align: right"]19.54934782[/TD]
[TD]Villanovans_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00B2, align: right"]20.24499444[/TD]
[TD]Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00C6, align: right"]20.83053768[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00CE, align: right"]21.05738825[/TD]
[TD]Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00E5, align: right"]21.74766884[/TD]
[TD]LN_Lengyel_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FC00FF, align: right"]22.59695776[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_North_Levant_(n=6)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

These samples exist within the light-blue cohort labeled C6.

Rather than attributing it totally to Greeks, could it be possible that this is indicative of a native pre-Italic ancestry?

9PrZLOH.jpg
 
brick said:

[TD="class: multidistance"][/TD]
hsTfQct.png


Gauls_Belgae were similar to northern French and Belgians.
Click to expand...

Of course, this makes no sense historically. Your other effort with Iron Age Italians makes more sense, but still the distances are pretty far for a lot of provinces, not just the ones populated by foreigners, like Aosta, Friuli and Trentino.

Italian population genetics is too complicated for this kind of two way analysis.
 
I have added:

- Iron Age Denmark => closest to modern Danes
- Iron Age Sweden => closest to modern Swedes
- Iron Age Norway => closest to modern Norwegians

All from the Margaryan 2020 study. Looks like the Scandinavians haven't changed much genetically in the last 2000 years.

I have also added new samples Iron Age Britons (+2) and Anglo-Saxons (+1).

I am working on the Vikings from Oxford and Dorset now. This should tell us how much intermingling there was with the English by the 10th century.
 
A lot of what I see does not make sense from a historical point of view in that it's mixing Chalcolithic and medieval populations. Now I might be exaggerating a bit but you just can't mix populations from different periods.
 
bigsnake49 said:
A lot of what I see does not make sense from a historical point of view in that it's mixing Chalcolithic and medieval populations. Now I might be exaggerating a bit but you just can't mix populations from different periods.
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@bigsnake@49

In a more stricto point of view, I plenty agree with you. In a link disclosed in a Jovialis’ post (see next) in this thread, Maciamo do the separation by era, that allows us to visualize the distance that separate each one of us from the various populations grouped by era.

1) [h=2]Dodecad K12b coordinates: Epipaleolithic to Chacolithic[/h]2) [h=2]Dodecad K12b coordinates: Bronze Age[/h]3) [h=2]Dodecad K12b coordinates: Iron Age & Early Antiquity[/h]4) [h=2]Dodecad K12b coordinates: Late Antiquity & Middle Ages[/h]
Jovialis said:
@Maciamo

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/ancient_ethnicities_analyzer.shtml

Excellent work on the new information page! I am just seeing it this morning.
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Salento said:
... second to last: the new Iron-Age Norway :)

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I see mostly Neolithic Farmer with some elevated Hunter Gatherer.....

Or may be more accurate some kind of 'North European' (10%) introgression into mostly 'Southern European'(90%).

Or just a usual mix from someone from Southern Italy?
 
North Dutch have a preference for Brittonic + Estonian Iron Age (also in the two way).




And most close to Iron Age Denmark.
 
Maciamo said:
I have added:

- Iron Age Denmark => closest to modern Danes
- Iron Age Sweden => closest to modern Swedes
- Iron Age Norway => closest to modern Norwegians

All from the Margaryan 2020 study. Looks like the Scandinavians haven't changed much genetically in the last 2000 years.

I have also added new samples Iron Age Britons (+2) and Anglo-Saxons (+1).

I am working on the Vikings from Oxford and Dorset now. This should tell us how much intermingling there was with the English by the 10th century.
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A question. As I just presented North Dutch like me have a close distance to iron age Denmark, still the admixture shows a preference for Britton and Estonian mix. Why is there such a difference between the distance and the admixture.....





 
Northener said:
I see mostly Neolithic Farmer with some elevated Hunter Gatherer.....

Or may be more accurate some kind of 'North European' (10%) introgression into mostly 'Southern European'(90%).

Or just a usual mix from someone from Southern Italy?
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It’s a 2way “Oracle”

... It’s possible that my 10% Northerner is actually the Southern European DNA carried by many Northerners, ... so that’ll makes me about 100% Southern European and You 10% Salentino or something like that, ... :)

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Salento said:
It’s a 2way “Oracle”

... It’s possible that my 10% Northerner is actually the Southern European DNA carried by many Northerners, ... so that’ll makes me about 100% Southern European and You 10% Salentino or something like that, ... :)
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:good_job: clear thanks!]

Even more fun:
 
I have added the average of 28 Viking genomes from 10th & 11th century Oxford and Dorset. They were clearly already mixed with English locals. The closest modern population is Iceland (distance = 3.1), which is itself a blend of Vikings with Celtic Irish and Scottish populations. Dorset Vikings are closer to modern Irish and Scots than to Scandinavians, Germans or English!
 
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