Genetic study Fine-scale sampling uncovers the complexity of migrations in 5th–6th century Pannonia

[Pax Augusta]

Fine-scale sampling uncovers the complexity of migrations in 5th–6th century Pannonia​

DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2023.07.063

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Highlights​

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  Novel genomic data from 53 individuals from 5th–8th century Europe were generated
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  The sites exhibit significant genetic diversity comparable to large swaths of Europe
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  Associations between genomic ancestry and burial customs vary in the analyzed sites
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  Spatial modeling analyses indicate gene flow from northern Europe into Pannonia

Summary​

As the collapse of the Western Roman Empire accelerated during the 4th and 5th centuries, arriving “barbarian” groups began to establish new communities in the border provinces of the declining (and eventually former) empire. This was a time of significant cultural and political change throughout not only these border regions but Europe as a whole. To better understand post-Roman community formation in one of these key frontier zones after the collapse of the Hunnic movement, we generated new paleogenomic data for a set of 38 burials from a time series of three 5th century cemeteries at Lake Balaton, Hungary. We utilized a comprehensive sampling approach to characterize these cemeteries along with data from 38 additional burials from a previously published mid-6th century site and analyzed them alongside data from over 550 penecontemporaneous individuals. The range of genetic diversity in all four of these local burial communities is extensive and wider ranging than penecontemporaneous Europeans sequenced to date. Despite many commonalities in burial customs and demography, we find that there were substantial differences in genetic ancestry between the sites. We detect evidence of northern European gene flow into the Lake Balaton region. Additionally, we observe a statistically significant association between dress artifacts and genetic ancestry among 5th century genetically female burials. Our analysis shows that the formation of early Medieval communities was a multifarious process even at a local level, consisting of genetically heterogeneous groups.

 

[Maciamo]

Here are the Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups of the 54 samples. Unfortunately they didn't mention the final SNP and didn't test very deep clades. Most Italian R1b are R1b1a1b1a1a2, which is R-P312. Only one is R1b1a1b1a1a2b (U152), although it could just be that the P312 were not tested for deep enough clades.

Sequence ID	Site name	Country	Date	Mt-haplogroup	Y-haplogroup
Bal_26	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	—	—
Bal_111	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	H, H2a	I1a1b1
Bal_143	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	R0a1a1	J2a1a1a2
Bal_144	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	K1a4	—
Bal_146	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	H11	G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a3a1
Bal_148	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	H13a2c, H13a2c1	—
Bal_149	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	X1'2'3	G2a2b2a1a1b
Bal_150	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	H11	—
Bal_267	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	J1c5	—
Bal_269	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	—	—
FVD001	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H5p	—
FVD002	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H4a1a1a	R1b1
FVD003	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	—	—
FVD004	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H1, H2	G2a2b2a
FVD005	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H4a1a, H4a1a1a	R1b1
FVD006	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H, H9, H46, H52, H69	—
FVD011	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	J2a1a1a	—
FVD007	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	T2c1c	—
FVD012	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	U5a2a	—
FVD008	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	K1a, K1a24, K1a30	—
FVD013	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	H4a1a1a	—
FVD009	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	J2b1c	E1b1b1a1b1
FVD010	Fonyód - Mérnöki telep	Hungary	Middle third of 5th century	U5b2a2a1	—
Hacs_15	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	—	R1b1a1b1
Hacs_16	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	—	—
Hacs_19	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	—	—
Hacs_20	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	—	—
Hacs_24	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	—	J2b2a1
BAL-268	Balatonszemes - Szemesi berek	Hungary	Late 5th century	J1c5	—
HACS-1	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	HV, HV0e	—
HACS-4	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	V	—
HACS-5	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H39	I2a1a2a2a1
HACS-10	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H16	J2b2a1a1a1a1a1a1
HACS-13	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H31	—
HACS-17	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H	—
HACS-18	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	U5a1c2a	—
HACS-21	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H7	E1b1b1a1b1a10a2h
HACS-22	Hács - Béndekpuszta	Hungary	Second half of 5th century	H3	E1b1b1a1b1a1
Bard_T2	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	—	R1b1a1b1a1a2
Bard_T6	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	—	R1b1a1b1a1a2
Bard_T7A	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	W1, W1c	R1b1a1b1a1a2b
Bard_T8_rid	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	U5b	—
Bard_T10	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	U3a1	—
Bard_T11	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	U3a1	—
Bard_T12	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	H3	R1b1a1b1a1a2
To_Lav_T10US67_ind1	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	W3a1, W3a1d	—
To_Lav_T10US67_ind2	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	K1c2	R1b1a1b1a1a2
To_Lav_T1US6	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	T2b7a2	G2a2a1a2a
To_Lav_T2US16	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	—	I1a1b1
To_Lav_T37US60	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	—	J2a1a
To_Lav_T38US344	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	U4c1a	—
To_Lav_T90US339	Torino - Lavazza	Italy	5th-7th century	—	R1b1a1b1b
BARD-T1	Bardonecchia	Italy	6th-8th century	H11	R1b1a1b1a1a

 

[Friesday]

G25?

 

[Pax Augusta]

G25?

What do you mean?

 

[Omino]

What do you mean?

He asks for their g25 coordinates

 

[Friesday]

He asks for their g25 coordinates

Yes. Thanks

 

[Poxy]

New Northern italian samples from late antiquity are very interesting.
Could these be used as new proxies to identify germanic admixture in moderns?

 

[PaleoRevenge]

G25s

Scaled

1:BAL-268,0.106994,0.061947,0.052043,0.05168,0.020004,0.010319,0.011751,0.003461,-0.01084,-0.014214,-0.010068,-0.005395,0.003717,-0.005092,0.015472,0.01127,-0.010431,0.003041,0.010936,0.00025,0.001747,-0.001855,0.001356,0.005302,0.00467
1:BARD-T1,0.113823,0.148267,0.023004,0.000969,0.039084,-0.002231,0.001175,0.009923,0.012885,0.011116,-0.000974,0.008692,-0.010109,-0.009083,0.00285,0.011668,0.018515,0.003167,0.000754,0.000875,0.005366,-0.001237,0.001972,0.009158,-0.0097
1:Bard_T2,0.121791,0.146236,0.038089,0.002907,0.040315,0.003904,-0.00846,-0.002077,0.018407,0.025695,0.002436,0.010041,-0.017393,-0.011698,0.005022,0.018165,0.017471,-0.006588,0.006034,-0.004877,0.00262,-0.003957,-0.003328,0.005543,-0.001557
1:Bard_T6,0.119514,0.152329,0.036958,-0.010982,0.035391,0.010598,-0.00423,-0.003,0.005727,0.03098,-0.006171,0.002398,-0.016204,-0.000688,0.008279,-0.013922,-0.014994,0.004181,-0.001508,-0.006878,-0.006489,0.005317,-0.002465,0.001928,0.002275
1:Bard_T7A,0.113823,0.150298,0.015839,-0.002907,0.031083,0.001116,-0.00611,-0.003,0.015544,0.021868,-0.001786,0.003747,-0.013379,-0.001376,0.00855,-0.002254,0.000652,-0.000253,-0.001634,0.002251,0.005366,-0.000989,0.003204,-0.003133,0.002515
1:Bard_T8_rid,0.1161,0.139128,0.026398,-0.003876,0.032929,-0.006693,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.005931,0.028976,-0.001461,0.003147,-0.01888,-0.018166,0.002986,0.015778,0.018645,-0.000507,0.011313,0.001876,0.000374,0.004575,-0.001972,-0.006266,0.00467
1:Bard_T10,0.117238,0.146236,0.02753,-0.022933,0.032929,-0.003347,0.001645,-0.003923,0.005522,0.032074,-0.00747,0.01124,-0.013528,-0.008395,-0.002579,0.016043,0.014342,0.002407,0.004651,-0.009129,0.000749,0.007914,-0.001602,0.005061,0.007185
1:Bard_T11,0.1161,0.14319,0.035072,-0.013889,0.040315,0.004741,0.001175,0.006461,0.017589,0.025149,-0.00682,-0.001798,-0.012636,-0.007156,0.004072,0.006232,0.000913,0.004054,-0.000126,0.00025,0.006738,-0.004699,-0.008134,-0.005784,0.005868
1:Bard_T12,0.114961,0.140143,0.02225,-0.006137,0.029544,-0.002789,0.000705,0.002308,0.009204,0.015126,0.003897,0.016635,-0.014569,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.000133,0.009388,-0.007095,0.00352,0.002001,-0.000125,0.014838,0.002465,0.001687,-0.001317
1:HACS-1,0.120652,0.144205,0.018479,-0.037468,0.038776,-0.010877,0.004935,0.004846,0.000409,0.030251,0.006008,0.007643,-0.013231,-0.000413,-0.024565,-0.005569,0.005476,0.003294,0.011816,-0.010005,-0.01672,0.001855,0.001232,0.007109,-0.005269
1:HACS-4,0.122929,0.133034,0.061471,0.053295,0.039392,0.014781,0.010575,0.009461,0.003272,-0.004556,-0.013478,0.004946,-0.004608,-0.018441,0.015065,0.019888,0.007562,0.00266,0.001131,0.006878,0.011105,0.008161,-0.002342,0.014098,-0.010418
1:HACS-5,0.120652,0.164516,0.009805,-0.035853,0.035083,-0.012271,0.00376,-0.001154,0.000818,0.048293,0.000974,0.007943,-0.014717,0.003303,-0.017779,-0.010209,0.008475,-0.006841,0.006159,-0.007879,-0.013227,0.004081,0.003081,0.001325,-0.003952
1:HACS-10,0.112685,0.133034,0.059585,0.041344,0.047393,0.030678,0.00423,0.011076,0.000818,0.004738,-0.00747,0.003147,-0.010555,-0.011147,0.014115,0.004906,0.01004,0.001774,0.013073,0.009004,0.001497,0.007172,0.002342,0.010965,-0.005149
1:HACS-13,0.121791,0.137096,0.063356,0.049419,0.044931,0.02259,0.005405,0.005307,0.007158,-0.001093,-0.004547,0.013038,-0.012339,-0.012111,0.02158,0.003315,-0.00326,0.003421,0.00352,0.006128,0,0.006059,0.015529,0.016629,-0.008622
1:HACS-17,0.110408,0.138112,0.00792,-0.025517,0.008001,-0.009203,-0.00188,-0.003461,0.001227,0.01877,-0.000812,0.005545,-0.00773,-0.010735,-0.016015,0.008618,0.023339,0.000253,0.005279,0.007879,-0.002371,0.005564,0.003328,0.002169,-0.00946
1:HACS-18,0.121791,0.129988,0.061848,0.052326,0.045855,0.013666,-0.00047,0.009692,0.007158,-0.003645,-0.001461,0.006894,-0.014866,-0.016652,0.014929,0.02254,0.014864,0.008488,0.004399,0.01138,0.011355,0.004204,-0.002588,0.017352,0.001557
1:HACS-21,0.119514,0.151314,0.014331,-0.040052,0.026466,-0.02008,0.00564,-0.001615,0.007772,0.037176,0.004384,0.007493,-0.016501,-0.008257,-0.020222,0.007292,0.025034,-0.00076,0.004777,-0.006128,-0.012353,-0.000866,0.003574,-0.002289,-0.001317
1:HACS-22,0.1161,0.158423,0.014331,-0.044251,0.030467,-0.019243,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.013703,0.04483,-0.002761,0.015736,-0.009068,0.001514,-0.024973,-0.015248,-0.009127,-0.003547,0.009804,-0.009755,-0.014599,0.008161,-0.000246,0.001084,-0.002155
1:To_Lav_T1US6,0.100164,0.146236,0.019987,-0.022933,0.023389,-0.013108,-0.00564,0.002769,0.013294,0.034807,0.000162,0.006894,-0.009514,-0.006744,0.005022,-0.003447,-0.018515,0.007348,-0.003017,-0.015382,-0.01123,0.001978,0.00037,0.001446,0.011137
1:To_Lav_T2US16,0.111547,0.14319,0.037712,0.013243,0.028313,0.003068,-0.00517,0.004154,0.014726,0.019135,-0.005684,-0.005395,-0.011298,-0.010459,-0.006107,0.009679,-0.001825,0.012035,0.00352,0.00075,-0.007612,0.006677,0,-0.004699,-0.004191
1:To_Lav_T10US67_ind1,0.118376,0.138112,0.046386,0.020349,0.028928,0.00502,0.007755,0.006231,0.006136,-0.002916,-0.005196,0.007194,-0.003865,0.000963,0.009908,-0.008353,-0.008214,0.007475,0.017472,0.001751,0.007986,0.001978,-0.002588,0.008555,-0.00479
1:To_Lav_T10US67_ind2,0.120652,0.136081,0.035826,0.008398,0.031698,0.003904,-0.00141,0.002077,0.00409,0.020593,-0.006983,0.005695,-0.009366,-0.00523,0.00095,0.00053,-0.002999,-0.000507,-0.00088,0.001501,0.007237,0.007543,0.003204,-0.004699,-0.002994
1:To_Lav_T37US60,0.104717,0.151314,0.010559,-0.031654,0.027697,-0.006414,-0.001645,0.002077,0.00409,0.025513,-0.002923,0.009292,-0.016799,0.012799,0.003122,-0.00411,-0.017471,-0.000633,0.003017,0.001126,-0.003868,0.002226,-0.011216,-0.008194,-0.002395
1:To_Lav_T38US344,0.09675,0.142174,0.009428,-0.031331,0.024928,-0.016176,-0.00705,-0.006923,0.015339,0.023326,0.000325,0.003297,-0.005649,-0.009221,-0.009365,0.006497,0.003129,-0.005701,0.006159,-0.002501,-0.003993,0.013354,0.003574,-0.00012,-0.010059
1:To_Lav_T90US339,0.113823,0.13405,0.004903,-0.018411,0.017542,-0.010877,0.00047,-0.004615,0.00225,0.008383,0.007632,-3e-04,-0.001189,-0.006193,0.003936,0.004641,0.002217,0.000633,0.002137,0.000625,-0.00549,0.001113,0.003574,0.008194,-0.005628

 

[PaleoRevenge]

2nd batch

Scaled
pannonean:Bal_26,0.112685,0.178733,0.018102,-0.077843,0.065243,-0.039602,0.00282,0.000231,0.050313,0.085104,0.003085,0.007044,-0.017393,-0.006193,-0.031487,-0.020949,0.001434,0.000127,0.011187,-0.012006,-0.007612,0.000371,-0.010723,-0.009399,-0.007424
pannonean:Bal_111,0.119514,0.144205,0.046386,0.014858,0.035083,0.005578,0.001645,0.004154,0.007772,0.002369,0.002111,0.002847,-0.004014,0.001789,0.017508,-0.007027,-0.018123,-0.000253,0.003142,-0.004502,0.002121,-0.008161,0.007395,0.006507,-0.002634
pannonean:Bal_143,0.114961,0.137096,0.012822,-0.020026,0.023081,-0.005299,-0.00329,-0.000231,0.006136,0.01385,-0.010393,0.006744,-0.009663,0.00289,0.002307,-0.016441,-0.006128,0.00038,0.016341,-0.005878,0.002496,0.005688,0.003328,0.003494,0.000718
pannonean:Bal_144,0.106994,0.150298,-0.015839,-0.049096,0.021235,-0.017291,0.000235,-0.005077,-0.003681,0.025878,-0.000812,0.013188,-0.005798,0.00578,-0.017644,-0.015911,-0.004563,-0.002787,0.003394,-0.012381,-0.006114,0.000866,-0.007518,0.001566,-0.003952
pannonean:Bal_146,0.127482,0.129988,0.067505,0.063631,0.040315,0.022032,0.007755,0.007154,-0.002659,-0.003827,-0.00747,0.008093,-0.002676,-0.009358,0.011265,-0.005304,-0.012517,0.002027,0.008673,0.014757,0.008235,-0.002597,0.005793,0.011929,-0.003113
pannonean:Bal_148,0.122929,0.142174,0.012822,-0.03876,0.028005,-0.009761,0.004935,-0.002769,0.011453,0.037723,-0.003735,0.007943,-0.01665,0.002477,-0.012622,-0.01843,-0.009127,0.004181,0.009679,-0.011005,-0.011854,0.004081,0.01023,-0.008073,-0.003952
pannonean:Bal_149,0.119514,0.132019,0.066373,0.059755,0.038161,0.021196,0.000705,0.010615,0.002863,-0.002734,-0.010393,0.002098,-0.010704,-0.018441,0.023751,0.007823,0.009257,0.00114,0.005028,0.015382,0.010482,0.011005,0.000739,0.016267,-0.007065
pannonean:Bal_150,0.130897,0.13405,0.064865,0.060078,0.044008,0.017012,0.01081,0.007846,-0.004909,-0.009112,-0.006333,-0.007194,-0.006244,0.003991,0.021444,-0.006099,-0.02034,-0.002154,-0.006411,0.006253,0.007612,-0.00507,-0.001479,0.000964,0.002275
pannonean:Bal_267,0.122929,0.121864,0.063733,0.052326,0.05601,0.007809,0.006815,0.01223,-0.015135,-0.00164,0.000487,0.005995,-0.002825,-0.015414,0.029451,0.012198,-0.008866,0.005448,0.002514,0.008879,0.007986,-0.002968,0.004067,0.013375,0.009939
pannonean:Bal_269,0.122929,0.118817,0.067127,0.060401,0.054779,0.018965,0.002115,0.012461,-0.01268,-0.013668,-0.011854,0.012289,-0.012933,-0.011698,0.019001,0.005436,-0.01708,0.013049,-0.000251,0.002876,0.005989,-0.010758,-0.008751,0.002892,-0.003952
pannonean:Hacs_15,0.122929,0.12491,0.054682,0.04522,0.044008,0.02008,0.002115,0.009,0.008181,0.003098,-0.006008,0.007943,-0.007136,-0.025047,0.024022,0.020021,0.010952,0.007728,-0.003645,0.008629,0.02246,-0.004081,-0.00037,0.009399,-0.000479
pannonean:Hacs_16,0.127482,0.137096,0.064865,0.050388,0.0437,0.026495,0.012456,0.010615,0.007158,0.016948,0.000812,0.001349,-0.01219,-0.01913,0.023344,0.006364,0.010952,-0.00038,0.002765,0.016133,0.013102,-0.003957,-0.005176,0.01458,0.005628
pannonean:Hacs_19,0.12862,0.133034,0.068259,0.044574,0.0437,0.023427,0.00235,0.002538,-0.001227,-0.004191,-0.002923,0.013488,-0.005946,-0.012661,0.028366,0.012198,-0.0103,0.012035,0.011564,0,0.004367,0.002226,-0.002588,0.015906,0.007544
pannonean:Hacs_20,0.121791,0.132019,0.057322,0.047481,0.035699,0.009482,0.013396,0.010846,0.00634,0.004191,-0.012991,0.007194,-0.006838,-0.022157,0.016558,0.019756,0.016037,-0.000887,0.000126,0.002501,0.015847,0.005441,0.000863,0.013014,0.002634
pannonean:Hacs_24,0.126344,0.135065,0.065619,0.044574,0.036007,0.012829,0.011281,-0.007615,-0.002045,0.002187,-0.012017,0.007194,-0.021556,-0.012111,0.026465,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.01433,0.005628,0.007112,-0.001731,-0.000493,0.017834,-0.009221
pannonian:FVD001,0.1161,0.12491,0.039975,0.033592,0.019388,0.01004,0.0047,0.009461,0.000205,-0.003462,0.000162,-0.003297,0.003271,0.014863,-0.010043,-0.008486,-0.012778,0.00152,0.006536,0.001751,-0.000125,-0.002349,0.005669,-0.008796,-0.005748
pannonian:FVD002,0.130897,0.136081,0.046763,0.036499,0.029544,0.014502,-0.006345,0.005769,-0.003068,0.007654,-0.00747,-0.000749,-0.007433,-0.003165,0.004207,-0.002519,0.003781,-0.001014,0.008673,0.001876,0.007736,-0.00272,0.000986,0.005302,0.005987
pannonian:FVD003,0.044391,-0.1046,0.018856,0.005168,0.010156,0.023427,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.025565,-0.006378,-0.005521,0.02233,0.005054,-0.007156,0.025787,0.00305,0.008345,0.00076,0.007165,-0.004877,0.014225,-0.007172,-0.021445,0.026751,-0.001676
pannonian:FVD004,0.127482,0.118817,0.055437,0.037145,0.030159,0.008367,0.000235,0.005307,-0.002659,-0.010023,-0.003573,-0.006594,0.010704,0.024359,-0.013301,-0.009546,-0.010561,-0.000507,0.011564,0.000125,-0.002995,-0.008161,0.005176,-0.005061,0.003113
pannonian:FVD005,0.135449,0.13405,0.051288,0.037468,0.034776,0.01255,0.00235,0.011076,0.005522,0.004738,-0.003085,-0.000749,-0.001933,-0.007844,-0.001493,0.013259,0.019688,0.004181,0.00905,0.007003,0.009358,-0.001731,-0.002342,0.010242,-0.00012
pannonian:FVD006,0.121791,0.164516,0.00792,-0.049419,0.024312,-0.024821,0.002115,-0.002538,0.008385,0.041185,-0.001624,0.014387,-0.012042,-0.01156,-0.02253,0.004641,0.029076,-0.004307,0.005656,-0.007629,-0.004243,-0.001484,0.005176,0.005181,-0.013172
pannonian:FVD007,0.079676,0.126941,0.020742,-0.027778,0.030159,-0.015897,-0.00705,0.005769,0.02127,0.01877,0.001461,-0.000599,0.006095,-0.009634,0.004614,-0.004243,0.002086,-0.008235,-0.012821,-0.00025,-0.01672,-0.011129,0.008751,0.003615,0.006706
pannonian:FVD008,0.12862,0.151314,0.02489,-0.002261,0.026774,-0.000837,-0.000235,-0.005538,0.008385,0.021504,-0.008119,0.010191,-0.013528,-0.006744,0.007329,-0.016043,-0.011343,0.006968,0.003142,-0.010755,0.009234,0.00643,-0.002095,0.013134,-0.005508
pannonian:FVD009,0.126344,0.152329,-0.009428,-0.048127,0.019696,-0.02259,-0.00329,-0.001615,-0.006954,0.025878,0.004872,0.007194,-0.010109,0.001101,-0.021987,-0.00769,0.001695,0.0019,0.003771,-0.004377,-0.000749,0.004946,-0.002342,0,-0.003592
pannonian:FVD010,0.132035,0.127957,0.053928,0.031331,0.040315,0.015897,0.00564,0.005077,0.00409,0.000911,0.002598,-0.003297,-0.001189,-0.000963,0.016965,0.007027,-0.011343,0.004307,-0.002765,0.002376,0.010107,-0.009769,-0.001479,0.006507,-0.002395
pannonian:FVD011,0.130897,0.1635,0.00528,-0.045543,0.025851,-0.020359,0.000235,-0.004615,0.01268,0.048475,0.00065,0.009591,-0.01665,-0.006193,-0.027823,-0.010209,0.004433,0.002914,0.007919,-0.007879,-0.011729,0.011376,0.006409,0.005302,-0.012454
pannonian:FVD012,0.125205,0.138112,0.053551,0.025194,0.030467,0.011156,0.00047,0.004384,0.006749,0.001276,0.00341,-0.00045,-0.004608,0.000963,0.003393,-0.010872,-0.01017,0.005068,0.003394,-0.002626,0.005366,0.011252,0.003328,0.006868,0.000239
pannonian:FVD013,0.126344,0.139128,0.063356,0.055556,0.037545,0.011435,0.00752,0.007154,-0.000205,-0.005103,-0.011205,0.008093,0,0.001514,0.015201,-0.009546,-0.017863,0.003294,-0.002388,-0.006503,0.000125,-0.003586,0.003328,0.011929,-0.001078

 

[Friesday]

2nd batch

Scaled
pannonean:Bal_26,0.112685,0.178733,0.018102,-0.077843,0.065243,-0.039602,0.00282,0.000231,0.050313,0.085104,0.003085,0.007044,-0.017393,-0.006193,-0.031487,-0.020949,0.001434,0.000127,0.011187,-0.012006,-0.007612,0.000371,-0.010723,-0.009399,-0.007424
pannonean:Bal_111,0.119514,0.144205,0.046386,0.014858,0.035083,0.005578,0.001645,0.004154,0.007772,0.002369,0.002111,0.002847,-0.004014,0.001789,0.017508,-0.007027,-0.018123,-0.000253,0.003142,-0.004502,0.002121,-0.008161,0.007395,0.006507,-0.002634
pannonean:Bal_143,0.114961,0.137096,0.012822,-0.020026,0.023081,-0.005299,-0.00329,-0.000231,0.006136,0.01385,-0.010393,0.006744,-0.009663,0.00289,0.002307,-0.016441,-0.006128,0.00038,0.016341,-0.005878,0.002496,0.005688,0.003328,0.003494,0.000718
pannonean:Bal_144,0.106994,0.150298,-0.015839,-0.049096,0.021235,-0.017291,0.000235,-0.005077,-0.003681,0.025878,-0.000812,0.013188,-0.005798,0.00578,-0.017644,-0.015911,-0.004563,-0.002787,0.003394,-0.012381,-0.006114,0.000866,-0.007518,0.001566,-0.003952
pannonean:Bal_146,0.127482,0.129988,0.067505,0.063631,0.040315,0.022032,0.007755,0.007154,-0.002659,-0.003827,-0.00747,0.008093,-0.002676,-0.009358,0.011265,-0.005304,-0.012517,0.002027,0.008673,0.014757,0.008235,-0.002597,0.005793,0.011929,-0.003113
pannonean:Bal_148,0.122929,0.142174,0.012822,-0.03876,0.028005,-0.009761,0.004935,-0.002769,0.011453,0.037723,-0.003735,0.007943,-0.01665,0.002477,-0.012622,-0.01843,-0.009127,0.004181,0.009679,-0.011005,-0.011854,0.004081,0.01023,-0.008073,-0.003952
pannonean:Bal_149,0.119514,0.132019,0.066373,0.059755,0.038161,0.021196,0.000705,0.010615,0.002863,-0.002734,-0.010393,0.002098,-0.010704,-0.018441,0.023751,0.007823,0.009257,0.00114,0.005028,0.015382,0.010482,0.011005,0.000739,0.016267,-0.007065
pannonean:Bal_150,0.130897,0.13405,0.064865,0.060078,0.044008,0.017012,0.01081,0.007846,-0.004909,-0.009112,-0.006333,-0.007194,-0.006244,0.003991,0.021444,-0.006099,-0.02034,-0.002154,-0.006411,0.006253,0.007612,-0.00507,-0.001479,0.000964,0.002275
pannonean:Bal_267,0.122929,0.121864,0.063733,0.052326,0.05601,0.007809,0.006815,0.01223,-0.015135,-0.00164,0.000487,0.005995,-0.002825,-0.015414,0.029451,0.012198,-0.008866,0.005448,0.002514,0.008879,0.007986,-0.002968,0.004067,0.013375,0.009939
pannonean:Bal_269,0.122929,0.118817,0.067127,0.060401,0.054779,0.018965,0.002115,0.012461,-0.01268,-0.013668,-0.011854,0.012289,-0.012933,-0.011698,0.019001,0.005436,-0.01708,0.013049,-0.000251,0.002876,0.005989,-0.010758,-0.008751,0.002892,-0.003952
pannonean:Hacs_15,0.122929,0.12491,0.054682,0.04522,0.044008,0.02008,0.002115,0.009,0.008181,0.003098,-0.006008,0.007943,-0.007136,-0.025047,0.024022,0.020021,0.010952,0.007728,-0.003645,0.008629,0.02246,-0.004081,-0.00037,0.009399,-0.000479
pannonean:Hacs_16,0.127482,0.137096,0.064865,0.050388,0.0437,0.026495,0.012456,0.010615,0.007158,0.016948,0.000812,0.001349,-0.01219,-0.01913,0.023344,0.006364,0.010952,-0.00038,0.002765,0.016133,0.013102,-0.003957,-0.005176,0.01458,0.005628
pannonean:Hacs_19,0.12862,0.133034,0.068259,0.044574,0.0437,0.023427,0.00235,0.002538,-0.001227,-0.004191,-0.002923,0.013488,-0.005946,-0.012661,0.028366,0.012198,-0.0103,0.012035,0.011564,0,0.004367,0.002226,-0.002588,0.015906,0.007544
pannonean:Hacs_20,0.121791,0.132019,0.057322,0.047481,0.035699,0.009482,0.013396,0.010846,0.00634,0.004191,-0.012991,0.007194,-0.006838,-0.022157,0.016558,0.019756,0.016037,-0.000887,0.000126,0.002501,0.015847,0.005441,0.000863,0.013014,0.002634
pannonean:Hacs_24,0.126344,0.135065,0.065619,0.044574,0.036007,0.012829,0.011281,-0.007615,-0.002045,0.002187,-0.012017,0.007194,-0.021556,-0.012111,0.026465,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.01433,0.005628,0.007112,-0.001731,-0.000493,0.017834,-0.009221
pannonian:FVD001,0.1161,0.12491,0.039975,0.033592,0.019388,0.01004,0.0047,0.009461,0.000205,-0.003462,0.000162,-0.003297,0.003271,0.014863,-0.010043,-0.008486,-0.012778,0.00152,0.006536,0.001751,-0.000125,-0.002349,0.005669,-0.008796,-0.005748
pannonian:FVD002,0.130897,0.136081,0.046763,0.036499,0.029544,0.014502,-0.006345,0.005769,-0.003068,0.007654,-0.00747,-0.000749,-0.007433,-0.003165,0.004207,-0.002519,0.003781,-0.001014,0.008673,0.001876,0.007736,-0.00272,0.000986,0.005302,0.005987
pannonian:FVD003,0.044391,-0.1046,0.018856,0.005168,0.010156,0.023427,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.025565,-0.006378,-0.005521,0.02233,0.005054,-0.007156,0.025787,0.00305,0.008345,0.00076,0.007165,-0.004877,0.014225,-0.007172,-0.021445,0.026751,-0.001676
pannonian:FVD004,0.127482,0.118817,0.055437,0.037145,0.030159,0.008367,0.000235,0.005307,-0.002659,-0.010023,-0.003573,-0.006594,0.010704,0.024359,-0.013301,-0.009546,-0.010561,-0.000507,0.011564,0.000125,-0.002995,-0.008161,0.005176,-0.005061,0.003113
pannonian:FVD005,0.135449,0.13405,0.051288,0.037468,0.034776,0.01255,0.00235,0.011076,0.005522,0.004738,-0.003085,-0.000749,-0.001933,-0.007844,-0.001493,0.013259,0.019688,0.004181,0.00905,0.007003,0.009358,-0.001731,-0.002342,0.010242,-0.00012
pannonian:FVD006,0.121791,0.164516,0.00792,-0.049419,0.024312,-0.024821,0.002115,-0.002538,0.008385,0.041185,-0.001624,0.014387,-0.012042,-0.01156,-0.02253,0.004641,0.029076,-0.004307,0.005656,-0.007629,-0.004243,-0.001484,0.005176,0.005181,-0.013172
pannonian:FVD007,0.079676,0.126941,0.020742,-0.027778,0.030159,-0.015897,-0.00705,0.005769,0.02127,0.01877,0.001461,-0.000599,0.006095,-0.009634,0.004614,-0.004243,0.002086,-0.008235,-0.012821,-0.00025,-0.01672,-0.011129,0.008751,0.003615,0.006706
pannonian:FVD008,0.12862,0.151314,0.02489,-0.002261,0.026774,-0.000837,-0.000235,-0.005538,0.008385,0.021504,-0.008119,0.010191,-0.013528,-0.006744,0.007329,-0.016043,-0.011343,0.006968,0.003142,-0.010755,0.009234,0.00643,-0.002095,0.013134,-0.005508
pannonian:FVD009,0.126344,0.152329,-0.009428,-0.048127,0.019696,-0.02259,-0.00329,-0.001615,-0.006954,0.025878,0.004872,0.007194,-0.010109,0.001101,-0.021987,-0.00769,0.001695,0.0019,0.003771,-0.004377,-0.000749,0.004946,-0.002342,0,-0.003592
pannonian:FVD010,0.132035,0.127957,0.053928,0.031331,0.040315,0.015897,0.00564,0.005077,0.00409,0.000911,0.002598,-0.003297,-0.001189,-0.000963,0.016965,0.007027,-0.011343,0.004307,-0.002765,0.002376,0.010107,-0.009769,-0.001479,0.006507,-0.002395
pannonian:FVD011,0.130897,0.1635,0.00528,-0.045543,0.025851,-0.020359,0.000235,-0.004615,0.01268,0.048475,0.00065,0.009591,-0.01665,-0.006193,-0.027823,-0.010209,0.004433,0.002914,0.007919,-0.007879,-0.011729,0.011376,0.006409,0.005302,-0.012454
pannonian:FVD012,0.125205,0.138112,0.053551,0.025194,0.030467,0.011156,0.00047,0.004384,0.006749,0.001276,0.00341,-0.00045,-0.004608,0.000963,0.003393,-0.010872,-0.01017,0.005068,0.003394,-0.002626,0.005366,0.011252,0.003328,0.006868,0.000239
pannonian:FVD013,0.126344,0.139128,0.063356,0.055556,0.037545,0.011435,0.00752,0.007154,-0.000205,-0.005103,-0.011205,0.008093,0,0.001514,0.015201,-0.009546,-0.017863,0.003294,-0.002388,-0.006503,0.000125,-0.003586,0.003328,0.011929,-0.001078

Thanks! Very good

 

[Angela]

Distance to:	Angela
0.02767032	1:Bard_T7A
0.03062205	pannonean:Bal_143
0.03217057	1:To_Lav_T1US6
0.03338155	1:To_Lav_T37US60
0.03383604	1:Bard_T12
0.03426442	1:To_Lav_T38US344
0.03557500	1:Bard_T10
0.03603288	1:To_Lav_T90US339
0.03644924	1:Bard_T11
0.04166641	1:Bard_T6
0.04210145	1:Bard_T8_rid
0.04264032	pannonian:FVD008
0.04355509	pannonean:Bal_148
0.04369255	1:To_Lav_T10US67_ind2
0.04623222	1:HACS-17
0.04655153	1:BARD-T1
0.04841662	1:HACS-1
0.05027858	1:To_Lav_T2US16
0.05237017	1:HACS-21
0.05255013	1:HACS-5
0.05320643	1:Bard_T2
0.05395498	pannonian:FVD007
0.05452116	1:HACS-22
0.05671295	pannonean:Bal_144
0.05739280	pannonian:FVD009

The first result is the closest I've ever gotten to an ancient sample. I'm just not very "matchy", probably because 100% of my ancestors don't come from the same area.

 

[Angela]

Target: Angela Distance: 0.5013% / 0.00501271
75.6	1
15.4	pannonean
9.0	pannonian

 

[Angela]

My husband's very different results:

Distance to:	AJF
0.02514885	pannonean:Bal_144
0.03583245	pannonian:FVD009
0.04864600	1:To_Lav_T37US60
0.05020555	pannonean:Bal_148
0.05242995	1:To_Lav_T38US344
0.05289489	1:HACS-22
0.05306306	pannonean:Bal_143
0.05550360	1:To_Lav_T90US339
0.05831810	1:To_Lav_T1US6
0.05878510	1:HACS-1
0.05898588	1:HACS-5
0.05935223	1:HACS-17
0.06041700	pannonian:FVD011
0.06263899	1:HACS-21
0.06636499	pannonian:FVD006
0.07198366	1:Bard_T7A
0.07330789	1:Bard_T10
0.07334664	1:Bard_T12
0.07499486	pannonian:FVD007
0.07547912	pannonian:FVD008
0.07930475	1:Bard_T6
0.08180481	1:Bard_T11
0.08637120	1:Bard_T8_rid
0.08783847	1:BARD-T1
0.08909747	1:To_Lav_T10US67_ind2

The closest he's ever gotten.

Target: AJF Distance: 2.2247% / 0.02224704
79.4	pannonean
17.8	1
2.8	pannonian

 

[Palermo Trapani]

Thanks Pax Augusta for the link to the paper, Maciamo for the Haplogroup Data and PaleoRevenge for the coordinates:

Distance to:	PT_G25_Ancestry_simulated_g25_scaled
0.03085686	pannonian:FVD009
0.03326203	pannonean:Bal_144
0.03487248	1:To_Lav_T38US344
0.03949691	1:HACS-21
0.04344533	pannonean:Bal_148
0.04358475	1:To_Lav_T37US60
0.04364885	1:HACS-5
0.04388205	1:HACS-1
0.04421393	1:HACS-17
0.04442312	1:HACS-22
0.04488521	1:To_Lav_T90US339
0.04672613	pannonian:FVD006
0.04773694	pannonian:FVD011
0.04927919	pannonean:Bal_143
0.05121424	1:To_Lav_T1US6
0.05341196	1:Bard_T10
0.05791856	1:Bard_T7A
0.05881831	1:Bard_T12
0.06437704	pannonian:FVD007
0.06555148	1:Bard_T11
0.06681841	1:Bard_T8_rid
0.06891089	1:BARD-T1
0.07016229	pannonian:FVD008
0.07176875	1:Bard_T6
0.07712891	1:To_Lav_T10US67_ind2

 

[mount123]

G25 coordinates with more appropriate labels (courtesy of teepean47):

Hungary, Balatonszemes and Fonyód

HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_26__AD_475,0.112685,0.178733,0.018102,-0.077843,0.065243,-0.039602,0.00282,0.000231,0.050313,0.085104,0.003085,0.007044,-0.017393,-0.006193,-0.031487,-0.020949,0.001434,0.000127,0.011187,-0.012006,-0.007612,0.000371,-0.010723,-0.009399,-0.007424
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_111__AD_475,0.119514,0.144205,0.046386,0.014858,0.035083,0.005578,0.001645,0.004154,0.007772,0.002369,0.002111,0.002847,-0.004014,0.001789,0.017508,-0.007027,-0.018123,-0.000253,0.003142,-0.004502,0.002121,-0.008161,0.007395,0.006507,-0.002634
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_143__AD_475,0.114961,0.137096,0.012822,-0.020026,0.023081,-0.005299,-0.00329,-0.000231,0.006136,0.01385,-0.010393,0.006744,-0.009663,0.00289,0.002307,-0.016441,-0.006128,0.00038,0.016341,-0.005878,0.002496,0.005688,0.003328,0.003494,0.000718
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_144__AD_475,0.106994,0.150298,-0.015839,-0.049096,0.021235,-0.017291,0.000235,-0.005077,-0.003681,0.025878,-0.000812,0.013188,-0.005798,0.00578,-0.017644,-0.015911,-0.004563,-0.002787,0.003394,-0.012381,-0.006114,0.000866,-0.007518,0.001566,-0.003952
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_146__AD_475,0.127482,0.129988,0.067505,0.063631,0.040315,0.022032,0.007755,0.007154,-0.002659,-0.003827,-0.00747,0.008093,-0.002676,-0.009358,0.011265,-0.005304,-0.012517,0.002027,0.008673,0.014757,0.008235,-0.002597,0.005793,0.011929,-0.003113
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_148__AD_475,0.122929,0.142174,0.012822,-0.03876,0.028005,-0.009761,0.004935,-0.002769,0.011453,0.037723,-0.003735,0.007943,-0.01665,0.002477,-0.012622,-0.01843,-0.009127,0.004181,0.009679,-0.011005,-0.011854,0.004081,0.01023,-0.008073,-0.003952
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_149__AD_475,0.119514,0.132019,0.066373,0.059755,0.038161,0.021196,0.000705,0.010615,0.002863,-0.002734,-0.010393,0.002098,-0.010704,-0.018441,0.023751,0.007823,0.009257,0.00114,0.005028,0.015382,0.010482,0.011005,0.000739,0.016267,-0.007065
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_150__AD_475,0.130897,0.13405,0.064865,0.060078,0.044008,0.017012,0.01081,0.007846,-0.004909,-0.009112,-0.006333,-0.007194,-0.006244,0.003991,0.021444,-0.006099,-0.02034,-0.002154,-0.006411,0.006253,0.007612,-0.00507,-0.001479,0.000964,0.002275
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_267__AD_475,0.122929,0.121864,0.063733,0.052326,0.05601,0.007809,0.006815,0.01223,-0.015135,-0.00164,0.000487,0.005995,-0.002825,-0.015414,0.029451,0.012198,-0.008866,0.005448,0.002514,0.008879,0.007986,-0.002968,0.004067,0.013375,0.009939
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_268__AD_475,0.106994,0.061947,0.052043,0.05168,0.020004,0.010319,0.011751,0.003461,-0.01084,-0.014214,-0.010068,-0.005395,0.003717,-0.005092,0.015472,0.01127,-0.010431,0.003041,0.010936,0.00025,0.001747,-0.001855,0.001356,0.005302,0.00467
HUN_Balatonszemes_EMA:Bal_269__AD_475,0.122929,0.118817,0.067127,0.060401,0.054779,0.018965,0.002115,0.012461,-0.01268,-0.013668,-0.011854,0.012289,-0.012933,-0.011698,0.019001,0.005436,-0.01708,0.013049,-0.000251,0.002876,0.005989,-0.010758,-0.008751,0.002892,-0.003952
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD001__AD_450,0.1161,0.12491,0.039975,0.033592,0.019388,0.01004,0.0047,0.009461,0.000205,-0.003462,0.000162,-0.003297,0.003271,0.014863,-0.010043,-0.008486,-0.012778,0.00152,0.006536,0.001751,-0.000125,-0.002349,0.005669,-0.008796,-0.005748
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD002__AD_450,0.130897,0.136081,0.046763,0.036499,0.029544,0.014502,-0.006345,0.005769,-0.003068,0.007654,-0.00747,-0.000749,-0.007433,-0.003165,0.004207,-0.002519,0.003781,-0.001014,0.008673,0.001876,0.007736,-0.00272,0.000986,0.005302,0.005987
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD003__AD_450,0.044391,-0.1046,0.018856,0.005168,0.010156,0.023427,-0.003525,-0.003461,0.025565,-0.006378,-0.005521,0.02233,0.005054,-0.007156,0.025787,0.00305,0.008345,0.00076,0.007165,-0.004877,0.014225,-0.007172,-0.021445,0.026751,-0.001676
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD004__AD_450,0.127482,0.118817,0.055437,0.037145,0.030159,0.008367,0.000235,0.005307,-0.002659,-0.010023,-0.003573,-0.006594,0.010704,0.024359,-0.013301,-0.009546,-0.010561,-0.000507,0.011564,0.000125,-0.002995,-0.008161,0.005176,-0.005061,0.003113
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD005__AD_450,0.135449,0.13405,0.051288,0.037468,0.034776,0.01255,0.00235,0.011076,0.005522,0.004738,-0.003085,-0.000749,-0.001933,-0.007844,-0.001493,0.013259,0.019688,0.004181,0.00905,0.007003,0.009358,-0.001731,-0.002342,0.010242,-0.00012
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD006__AD_450,0.121791,0.164516,0.00792,-0.049419,0.024312,-0.024821,0.002115,-0.002538,0.008385,0.041185,-0.001624,0.014387,-0.012042,-0.01156,-0.02253,0.004641,0.029076,-0.004307,0.005656,-0.007629,-0.004243,-0.001484,0.005176,0.005181,-0.013172
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD007__AD_450,0.079676,0.126941,0.020742,-0.027778,0.030159,-0.015897,-0.00705,0.005769,0.02127,0.01877,0.001461,-0.000599,0.006095,-0.009634,0.004614,-0.004243,0.002086,-0.008235,-0.012821,-0.00025,-0.01672,-0.011129,0.008751,0.003615,0.006706
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD008__AD_450,0.12862,0.151314,0.02489,-0.002261,0.026774,-0.000837,-0.000235,-0.005538,0.008385,0.021504,-0.008119,0.010191,-0.013528,-0.006744,0.007329,-0.016043,-0.011343,0.006968,0.003142,-0.010755,0.009234,0.00643,-0.002095,0.013134,-0.005508
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD009__AD_450,0.126344,0.152329,-0.009428,-0.048127,0.019696,-0.02259,-0.00329,-0.001615,-0.006954,0.025878,0.004872,0.007194,-0.010109,0.001101,-0.021987,-0.00769,0.001695,0.0019,0.003771,-0.004377,-0.000749,0.004946,-0.002342,0,-0.003592
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD010__AD_450,0.132035,0.127957,0.053928,0.031331,0.040315,0.015897,0.00564,0.005077,0.00409,0.000911,0.002598,-0.003297,-0.001189,-0.000963,0.016965,0.007027,-0.011343,0.004307,-0.002765,0.002376,0.010107,-0.009769,-0.001479,0.006507,-0.002395
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD011__AD_450,0.130897,0.1635,0.00528,-0.045543,0.025851,-0.020359,0.000235,-0.004615,0.01268,0.048475,0.00065,0.009591,-0.01665,-0.006193,-0.027823,-0.010209,0.004433,0.002914,0.007919,-0.007879,-0.011729,0.011376,0.006409,0.005302,-0.012454
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD012__AD_450,0.125205,0.138112,0.053551,0.025194,0.030467,0.011156,0.00047,0.004384,0.006749,0.001276,0.00341,-0.00045,-0.004608,0.000963,0.003393,-0.010872,-0.01017,0.005068,0.003394,-0.002626,0.005366,0.011252,0.003328,0.006868,0.000239
HUN_Fonyód_EMA:FVD013__AD_450,0.126344,0.139128,0.063356,0.055556,0.037545,0.011435,0.00752,0.007154,-0.000205,-0.005103,-0.011205,0.008093,0,0.001514,0.015201,-0.009546,-0.017863,0.003294,-0.002388,-0.006503,0.000125,-0.003586,0.003328,0.011929,-0.001078

 

[mount123]

Hungary, Hács

HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_1__AD_475,0.120652,0.144205,0.018479,-0.037468,0.038776,-0.010877,0.004935,0.004846,0.000409,0.030251,0.006008,0.007643,-0.013231,-0.000413,-0.024565,-0.005569,0.005476,0.003294,0.011816,-0.010005,-0.01672,0.001855,0.001232,0.007109,-0.005269
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_4__AD_475,0.122929,0.133034,0.061471,0.053295,0.039392,0.014781,0.010575,0.009461,0.003272,-0.004556,-0.013478,0.004946,-0.004608,-0.018441,0.015065,0.019888,0.007562,0.00266,0.001131,0.006878,0.011105,0.008161,-0.002342,0.014098,-0.010418
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_5__AD_475,0.120652,0.164516,0.009805,-0.035853,0.035083,-0.012271,0.00376,-0.001154,0.000818,0.048293,0.000974,0.007943,-0.014717,0.003303,-0.017779,-0.010209,0.008475,-0.006841,0.006159,-0.007879,-0.013227,0.004081,0.003081,0.001325,-0.003952
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_10__AD_475,0.112685,0.133034,0.059585,0.041344,0.047393,0.030678,0.00423,0.011076,0.000818,0.004738,-0.00747,0.003147,-0.010555,-0.011147,0.014115,0.004906,0.01004,0.001774,0.013073,0.009004,0.001497,0.007172,0.002342,0.010965,-0.005149
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_13__AD_475,0.121791,0.137096,0.063356,0.049419,0.044931,0.02259,0.005405,0.005307,0.007158,-0.001093,-0.004547,0.013038,-0.012339,-0.012111,0.02158,0.003315,-0.00326,0.003421,0.00352,0.006128,0,0.006059,0.015529,0.016629,-0.008622
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_15__AD_475,0.122929,0.12491,0.054682,0.04522,0.044008,0.02008,0.002115,0.009,0.008181,0.003098,-0.006008,0.007943,-0.007136,-0.025047,0.024022,0.020021,0.010952,0.007728,-0.003645,0.008629,0.02246,-0.004081,-0.00037,0.009399,-0.000479
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_16__AD_475,0.127482,0.137096,0.064865,0.050388,0.0437,0.026495,0.012456,0.010615,0.007158,0.016948,0.000812,0.001349,-0.01219,-0.01913,0.023344,0.006364,0.010952,-0.00038,0.002765,0.016133,0.013102,-0.003957,-0.005176,0.01458,0.005628
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_17__AD_475,0.110408,0.138112,0.00792,-0.025517,0.008001,-0.009203,-0.00188,-0.003461,0.001227,0.01877,-0.000812,0.005545,-0.00773,-0.010735,-0.016015,0.008618,0.023339,0.000253,0.005279,0.007879,-0.002371,0.005564,0.003328,0.002169,-0.00946
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_18__AD_475,0.121791,0.129988,0.061848,0.052326,0.045855,0.013666,-0.00047,0.009692,0.007158,-0.003645,-0.001461,0.006894,-0.014866,-0.016652,0.014929,0.02254,0.014864,0.008488,0.004399,0.01138,0.011355,0.004204,-0.002588,0.017352,0.001557
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_19__AD_475,0.12862,0.133034,0.068259,0.044574,0.0437,0.023427,0.00235,0.002538,-0.001227,-0.004191,-0.002923,0.013488,-0.005946,-0.012661,0.028366,0.012198,-0.0103,0.012035,0.011564,0,0.004367,0.002226,-0.002588,0.015906,0.007544
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_20__AD_475,0.121791,0.132019,0.057322,0.047481,0.035699,0.009482,0.013396,0.010846,0.00634,0.004191,-0.012991,0.007194,-0.006838,-0.022157,0.016558,0.019756,0.016037,-0.000887,0.000126,0.002501,0.015847,0.005441,0.000863,0.013014,0.002634
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_21__AD_475,0.119514,0.151314,0.014331,-0.040052,0.026466,-0.02008,0.00564,-0.001615,0.007772,0.037176,0.004384,0.007493,-0.016501,-0.008257,-0.020222,0.007292,0.025034,-0.00076,0.004777,-0.006128,-0.012353,-0.000866,0.003574,-0.002289,-0.001317
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_22__AD_475,0.1161,0.158423,0.014331,-0.044251,0.030467,-0.019243,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.013703,0.04483,-0.002761,0.015736,-0.009068,0.001514,-0.024973,-0.015248,-0.009127,-0.003547,0.009804,-0.009755,-0.014599,0.008161,-0.000246,0.001084,-0.002155
HUN_Hács_EMA:Hacs_24__AD_475,0.126344,0.135065,0.065619,0.044574,0.036007,0.012829,0.011281,-0.007615,-0.002045,0.002187,-0.012017,0.007194,-0.021556,-0.012111,0.026465,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.01433,0.005628,0.007112,-0.001731,-0.000493,0.017834,-0.009221

 

[mount123]

Italy, Bardonecchia and Torino

ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T1__AD_650,0.113823,0.148267,0.023004,0.000969,0.039084,-0.002231,0.001175,0.009923,0.012885,0.011116,-0.000974,0.008692,-0.010109,-0.009083,0.00285,0.011668,0.018515,0.003167,0.000754,0.000875,0.005366,-0.001237,0.001972,0.009158,-0.0097
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T2__AD_650,0.121791,0.146236,0.038089,0.002907,0.040315,0.003904,-0.00846,-0.002077,0.018407,0.025695,0.002436,0.010041,-0.017393,-0.011698,0.005022,0.018165,0.017471,-0.006588,0.006034,-0.004877,0.00262,-0.003957,-0.003328,0.005543,-0.001557
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T6__AD_650,0.119514,0.152329,0.036958,-0.010982,0.035391,0.010598,-0.00423,-0.003,0.005727,0.03098,-0.006171,0.002398,-0.016204,-0.000688,0.008279,-0.013922,-0.014994,0.004181,-0.001508,-0.006878,-0.006489,0.005317,-0.002465,0.001928,0.002275
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T7A__AD_650,0.113823,0.150298,0.015839,-0.002907,0.031083,0.001116,-0.00611,-0.003,0.015544,0.021868,-0.001786,0.003747,-0.013379,-0.001376,0.00855,-0.002254,0.000652,-0.000253,-0.001634,0.002251,0.005366,-0.000989,0.003204,-0.003133,0.002515
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T8_rid__AD_650,0.1161,0.139128,0.026398,-0.003876,0.032929,-0.006693,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.005931,0.028976,-0.001461,0.003147,-0.01888,-0.018166,0.002986,0.015778,0.018645,-0.000507,0.011313,0.001876,0.000374,0.004575,-0.001972,-0.006266,0.00467
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T10__AD_650,0.117238,0.146236,0.02753,-0.022933,0.032929,-0.003347,0.001645,-0.003923,0.005522,0.032074,-0.00747,0.01124,-0.013528,-0.008395,-0.002579,0.016043,0.014342,0.002407,0.004651,-0.009129,0.000749,0.007914,-0.001602,0.005061,0.007185
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T11__AD_650,0.1161,0.14319,0.035072,-0.013889,0.040315,0.004741,0.001175,0.006461,0.017589,0.025149,-0.00682,-0.001798,-0.012636,-0.007156,0.004072,0.006232,0.000913,0.004054,-0.000126,0.00025,0.006738,-0.004699,-0.008134,-0.005784,0.005868
ITA_Bardonecchia_EMA:Bard_T12__AD_650,0.114961,0.140143,0.02225,-0.006137,0.029544,-0.002789,0.000705,0.002308,0.009204,0.015126,0.003897,0.016635,-0.014569,-0.004542,-0.00475,-0.000133,0.009388,-0.007095,0.00352,0.002001,-0.000125,0.014838,0.002465,0.001687,-0.001317
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T1US6__AD_550,0.100164,0.146236,0.019987,-0.022933,0.023389,-0.013108,-0.00564,0.002769,0.013294,0.034807,0.000162,0.006894,-0.009514,-0.006744,0.005022,-0.003447,-0.018515,0.007348,-0.003017,-0.015382,-0.01123,0.001978,0.00037,0.001446,0.011137
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T2US16__AD_550,0.111547,0.14319,0.037712,0.013243,0.028313,0.003068,-0.00517,0.004154,0.014726,0.019135,-0.005684,-0.005395,-0.011298,-0.010459,-0.006107,0.009679,-0.001825,0.012035,0.00352,0.00075,-0.007612,0.006677,0,-0.004699,-0.004191
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T10US67_ind1__AD_550,0.118376,0.138112,0.046386,0.020349,0.028928,0.00502,0.007755,0.006231,0.006136,-0.002916,-0.005196,0.007194,-0.003865,0.000963,0.009908,-0.008353,-0.008214,0.007475,0.017472,0.001751,0.007986,0.001978,-0.002588,0.008555,-0.00479
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T10US67_ind2__AD_550,0.120652,0.136081,0.035826,0.008398,0.031698,0.003904,-0.00141,0.002077,0.00409,0.020593,-0.006983,0.005695,-0.009366,-0.00523,0.00095,0.00053,-0.002999,-0.000507,-0.00088,0.001501,0.007237,0.007543,0.003204,-0.004699,-0.002994
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T37US60__AD_550,0.104717,0.151314,0.010559,-0.031654,0.027697,-0.006414,-0.001645,0.002077,0.00409,0.025513,-0.002923,0.009292,-0.016799,0.012799,0.003122,-0.00411,-0.017471,-0.000633,0.003017,0.001126,-0.003868,0.002226,-0.011216,-0.008194,-0.002395
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T38US344__AD_550,0.09675,0.142174,0.009428,-0.031331,0.024928,-0.016176,-0.00705,-0.006923,0.015339,0.023326,0.000325,0.003297,-0.005649,-0.009221,-0.009365,0.006497,0.003129,-0.005701,0.006159,-0.002501,-0.003993,0.013354,0.003574,-0.00012,-0.010059
ITA_Torino_EMA:To_Lav_T90US339__AD_550,0.113823,0.13405,0.004903,-0.018411,0.017542,-0.010877,0.00047,-0.004615,0.00225,0.008383,0.007632,-3e-04,-0.001189,-0.006193,0.003936,0.004641,0.002217,0.000633,0.002137,0.000625,-0.00549,0.001113,0.003574,0.008194,-0.005628

 

[Poxy]

Distance to:	ITA_Torino_Lavazza_5th-7th_century
0.02020255	Italian_Piedmont
0.02032532	Italian_Emilia
0.02244058	Italian_Liguria
0.02301121	Swiss_Italian
0.02366309	Italian_Tuscany
0.02576928	Italian_Lombardy
0.02590975	Italian_Veneto
0.02764532	Italian_Bergamo
0.02843469	Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.02896489	Greek_Thessaly
0.03003888	Italian_Northeast
0.03087423	Italian_Marche
0.03125790	French_Provence
0.03194901	Spanish_Eivissa
0.03224232	Italian_Umbria
0.03243932	Spanish_Mallorca
0.03273416	French_Corsica
0.03302884	Spanish_Menorca
0.03382577	Spanish_Baleares
0.03391234	Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03454630	Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03471890	Greek_Macedonia
0.03646497	Portuguese
0.03656249	Spanish_Extremadura
0.03657625	Albanian

Distance to:	ITA_Bardonecchia_6th-8th_century
0.01561455	Italian_Veneto
0.01946000	Spanish_Mallorca
0.01947217	Italian_Piedmont
0.01953342	Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.02019570	Swiss_Italian
0.02073282	Italian_Bergamo
0.02086870	French_Provence
0.02130835	Spanish_Baleares
0.02263998	Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02317154	Italian_Emilia
0.02321451	Spanish_Eivissa
0.02434646	Italian_Northeast
0.02509862	Spanish_Girona
0.02522828	Spanish_Penedes
0.02527972	Italian_Lombardy
0.02528849	Spanish_Menorca
0.02599978	Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02639356	Spanish_Alacant
0.02667078	Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02765059	French_Corsica
0.02781967	Spanish_Murcia
0.02838754	Swiss_French
0.02846916	Italian_Tuscany
0.02850160	Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02911188	Spanish_Lleida

I created an average sample and compared it, but I don't know which one is meaningful.

ITA_Bardonecchia_6th-8th_century,0.1166688,0.1457284,0.0281425,-0.007106,0.0351988,0.0006624,-0.002115,0.0000289,0.0113511,0.023873,-0.0022936,0.0067628,-0.0145872,-0.007638,0.0030538,0.0064471,0.0081165,-0.0000792,0.0028755,-0.0017039,0.0018249,0.0027202,-0.0012325,0.0010242,0.0012424

ITA_Torino_Lavazza_5th-7th_century,0.1094327,0.1415939,0.023543,-0.0089056,0.0260707,-0.0049404,-0.0018129,0.0008243,0.0085607,0.0184059,-0.0018096,0.003811,-0.00824,-0.0034407,0.0010666,0.0007767,-0.0062397,0.00295,0.0040583,-0.0017329,-0.0024243,0.0049813,-0.0004403,0.000069,-0.0027029

Germanic_Longobard_6th_7th_century,0.1297016,0.132882,0.0616404,0.0486438,0.0385609,0.0156736,0.004324,0.0064959,0.0016362,-0.0023417,-0.0066092,0.0034019,-0.0090534,-0.0059591,0.0186412,0.0060196,-0.0048307,0.0010199,0.006178,0.0044272,0.0065384,0.004742,-0.000684,0.012821,-0.0004552

Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG,0.127482,0.126941,0.061848,0.054264,0.03693,0.01757,0.00611,0.01523,-0.004909,-0.017495,0.001786,-0.008393,0.016353,0.023946,-0.018187,-0.000398,0.011213,-0.007095,0.000754,0.003126,-0.007487,-0.013354,0.011092,-0.00494,0.003113

 

[Vitruvius]

Almost none of the samples from Bardonecchia and Torino are of Central or Northern European make up. It looks like this finally puts to rest the tired idea of Italians being the mixed offspring of Germans/Northerners and Near Easterners. Out of the 15 sample total only one (6.6%) sample (T10US67) clusters with modern French and none cluster with Germans. If Barbarians were to in fact have a large impact on the Italian genome as some have proposed then you would necessarily see a much larger amount of individuals associated with thoroughly Central or Northern Euorpean descent to facilitate such a change, yet no such phenomenon is seen. What's more is that the time frame of these samples of 550-650ad is the exact 100 year span that the Lombards entered and settled Italy. This era should be representative of the highest amount of genetic influx of Germanics into Italy and yet only one sample appears to have origins north of the alps.

Three samples cluster in the Aosta Valley/Provence genetic region (20%). I see this region as effectively the northern limit of Italian like DNA and the southern limit of French like DNA. These types have likely been in parts of Italy and the prealps since the bronze or iron age so it's not surprising to find them. The rest cluster between central and northern Italy (73.4%). The more rural Bardonecchia in particular shows a very strong affinity to modern Northern Italians where as Torino is more diverse with perhaps more of a legacy from Roman Imperial colonization - an era that likely brought individuals from mainly central and southern italy to settle the largest cities. I think these populations together will be representative of the norm for Roman era Northern Italians with the modern-like Northern Italian genome being found more strongly in rural regions and likely furnishing higher fertility rates, thus leading to the gradual reduction of central Italian like profiles over many centuries. Either way this strongly evidences the reality that the barbarian migrations were very small in number as previously noted by even the Longobards themselves in their own history.

You can see exactly where they plot on a PCA. The overwhelming norm is with modern northern Italians.

 

[Poxy]

Almost none of the samples from Bardonecchia and Torino are of Central or Northern European make up. It looks like this finally puts to rest the tired idea of Italians being the mixed offspring of Germans/Northerners and Near Easterners. Out of the 15 sample total only one (6.6%) sample (T10US67) clusters with modern French and none cluster with Germans. If Barbarians were to in fact have a large impact on the Italian genome as some have proposed then you would necessarily see a much larger amount of individuals associated with thoroughly Central or Northern Euorpean descent to facilitate such a change, yet no such phenomenon is seen. What's more is that the time frame of these samples of 550-650ad is the exact 100 year span that the Lombards entered and settled Italy. This era should be representative of the highest amount of genetic influx of Germanics into Italy and yet only one sample appears to have origins north of the alps.

Three samples cluster in the Aosta Valley/Provence genetic region (20%). I see this region as effectively the northern limit of Italian like DNA and the southern limit of French like DNA. These types have likely been in parts of Italy and the prealps since the bronze or iron age so it's not surprising to find them. The rest cluster between central and northern Italy (73.4%). The more rural Bardonecchia in particular shows a very strong affinity to modern Northern Italians where as Torino is more diverse with perhaps more of a legacy from Roman Imperial colonization - an era that likely brought individuals from mainly central and southern italy to settle the largest cities. I think these populations together will be representative of the norm for Roman era Northern Italians with the modern-like Northern Italian genome being found more strongly in rural regions and likely furnishing higher fertility rates, thus leading to the gradual reduction of central Italian like profiles over many centuries. Either way this strongly evidences the reality that the barbarian migrations were very small in number as previously noted by even the Longobards themselves in their own history.

You can see exactly where they plot on a PCA. The overwhelming norm is with modern northern Italians.

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I agree with you. I hope that these LA Italian samples will be the key to breaking down the hypothesis that modern North-Central Italians have a 20% Germanic admixture.