G25 G25 - Ancient and Medieval World

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.4747% / 0.01474710
26.0Celtiberian
18.4Germanic_Medieval
15.4Picentini
15.2Etruscan
12.6Numidian
9.2Iberian
2.0Ancient_North_Caucasus
0.8Oxus_civilisation
0.2Bengal
0.2Finland_Ia


Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.1466% / 0.01146574
27.2Celtiberian
24.6Celtic_Islanders
11.2Numidian
10.0Baltic
6.6Thracian
6.4Etruscan
5.8Latin
3.4Germanic_Medieval
3.2Iberian
1.6Picentini


Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.2288% / 0.01228831
26.6Celtiberian
24.4Germanic_Medieval
23.8Etruscan
10.8Numidian
7.0Picentini
3.8Ancient_North_Caucasus
1.4Bengal
0.8Ethiopian_Highlands
0.8Gaul
0.2Beringian
0.2Pontic_Late_Antiquity
0.2Siculi
 
Luso said:
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 1.4747% / 0.01474710
26.0Celtiberian
18.4Germanic_Medieval
15.4Picentini
15.2Etruscan
12.6Numidian
9.2Iberian
2.0Ancient_North_Caucasus
0.8Oxus_civilisation
0.2Bengal
0.2Finland_Ia


Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.1466% / 0.01146574
27.2Celtiberian
24.6Celtic_Islanders
11.2Numidian
10.0Baltic
6.6Thracian
6.4Etruscan
5.8Latin
3.4Germanic_Medieval
3.2Iberian
1.6Picentini


Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.2288% / 0.01228831
26.6Celtiberian
24.4Germanic_Medieval
23.8Etruscan
10.8Numidian
7.0Picentini
3.8Ancient_North_Caucasus
1.4Bengal
0.8Ethiopian_Highlands
0.8Gaul
0.2Beringian
0.2Pontic_Late_Antiquity
0.2Siculi
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Luso do you really have this Germanic medieval in your ancient ancestors?
 
eindhein15 said:
Luso do you really have this Germanic medieval in your ancient ancestors?
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Many of the samples overlap so I don't necessarily have that specific ancestry... it could be mistaking it for some other more northern ancient sample that us Portuguese have affinity to.
 
Luso said:
Many of the samples overlap so I don't necessarily have that specific ancestry... it could be mistaking it for some other more northern ancient sample that us Portuguese have affinity to.
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luso i did edit this calc , https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?371583-Final-(V4-0)-Ancestry-DNA-G25-Calculator-XD

i did edit this calc to only people with west iberian ethnicity , not east iberian and basque , is good only with west and i got this result with your coords i found discord

Target: Luso
Distance: 1.8632% / 0.01863226
98.2 Portuguese
1.4 Bantu-South
0.4 Northern_Asia



what you thought?
 
eindhein15 said:
luso i did edit this calc , https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?371583-Final-(V4-0)-Ancestry-DNA-G25-Calculator-XD

i did edit this calc to only people with west iberian ethnicity , not east iberian and basque , is good only with west and i got this result with your coords i found discord

Target: Luso
Distance: 1.8632% / 0.01863226
98.2 Portuguese
1.4 Bantu-South
0.4 Northern_Asia



what you thought?
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Northern Asia doesn't make any sence for the portuguese people,it propably came indirectly with the steppe immigrations
 
Distance to:italouruguayan
0.10415441Thracian:Scythian_IA_Moldova_o1
0.13079691Sarmatian:Sarmatian_IA_Cimislia
0.13459577Thracian:Scythian_IA_Moldova
0.13496212Picentini:Italy_Proto-Villanovan_Abruzzo
0.13540310Sarmatian:Sarmatian_IA_Chebotarev
0.13562113Turkic_medieval:Kazakhstan_Medieval_Turk_o
0.13617158Portugal_MonteDaNora_LateRoman.SG
0.13617319Sarmatian:Sarmatian_IA_Chumarovo
0.13827673Crimean:Crimea_Late_Antiquity_ACD
0.13914076Illyrian:Croatia_MBA
0.13919590Sogdiane:KAZ_Otyrar_Antiquity
0.13921276Helladic_culture:Greece_MBA_Helladic_Logkas
0.13998244Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman.SG
0.14023070Celtic_Islanders:England_LBA_o
0.14045185Gaul:France_IA1_Hallstatt_Grand_Est
0.14102333Slavic:Czechia_Early_Medieval_Pohansko_Early_Slav_o
0.14134298Ancient_South_Levant:Israel_MLBA_Megiddo_o2
0.14162692Germanic_Medieval:Germany_Medieval_Burgweinting_ACD
0.14250719Germanic_Medieval:Germany_Medieval_Altheim_Baiuvaric
0.14280129Germanic_Medieval:Italy_Medieval_Villa_Magna_(German_Profile)
0.14319248Sarmatian:Sarmatian_IA_Nesvetay
0.14371644Germanic_Medieval:Italy_Medieval_Rome_(German_Profile)
 
Distance to:italouruguayan
0.0311527780.40% Portugal_MonteDaNora_LateRoman.SG + 19.60% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0314076380.40% Portugal_MonteDaNora_LateRoman.SG + 19.60% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0323815180.20% Helladic_culture:Greece_MBA_Helladic_Logkas + 19.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0345997480.80% Thracian:Scythian_IA_Moldova + 19.20% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0347240680.20% Helladic_culture:Greece_MBA_Helladic_Logkas + 19.80% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0348375980.20% Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman.SG + 19.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0349363679.60% Illyrian:Croatia_EIA + 20.40% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0358064880.80% Thracian:Scythian_IA_Moldova + 19.20% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0358351880.80% Picentini:Italy_Proto-Villanovan_Abruzzo + 19.20% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0370852480.20% Illyrian:Croatia_MBA + 19.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0371237780.20% Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman.SG + 19.80% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0381981779.80% Illyrian:Croatia_EIA + 20.20% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0383170779.00% Etruscan:Italy_IA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia + 21.00% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0384885080.80% Picentini:Italy_Proto-Villanovan_Abruzzo + 19.20% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0393741679.20% Daunian:Italy_IA_Messapic_Daunian_Ordona + 20.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0404231580.40% Illyrian:Croatia_MBA + 19.60% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0408394679.40% Daunian:Italy_IA_Messapic_Daunian_Ordona + 20.60% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0409164780.20% Germanic_Medieval:Germany_Medieval_Burgweinting_ACD + 19.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0412845979.00% Etruscan:Italy_IA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia + 21.00% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0422685379.20% Etruscan:Italy_IA_Etruscan_Casenovole + 20.80% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0425705880.20% Germanic_Medieval:Germany_Medieval_Burgweinting_ACD + 19.80% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0451388379.20% Etruscan:Italy_IA_Etruscan_Casenovole + 20.80% Belize_4600BP:I5455
0.0458300977.80% Etruscan:Italy_IA_Etruscan_Vetulonia + 22.20% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0468142978.40% Latin:Italy_IA_Italic_Lazio + 21.60% Belize_3600BP:I24540
0.0471556278.60% Gaul:Czechia_EIA_Hallstatt_Bylany_o1 + 21.40% Belize_3600BP:I24540
 
Target: KirgonixPereira_scaled
Distance: 1.8005% / 0.01800547
45.4Portugal
28.6France
23.4Northern_Italy
1.4Nigeria-East_Central
0.6Northern_Asia
0.4Northern_Africa
0.2Bengal
 
Kirgonix Pereira said:
Target: KirgonixPereira_scaled
Distance: 1.8005% / 0.01800547
45.4Portugal
28.6France
23.4Northern_Italy
1.4Nigeria-East_Central
0.6Northern_Asia
0.4Northern_Africa
0.2Bengal
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Try to erase north italy because there s too similarity between west iberia and north italy
 
hapiness15 said:
try put on the source these two good averages to iberians

Spain&Portugal:A,0.1071838,0.1461951,0.0372635,-0.0025708,0.0426659,-0.0021857,-0.0033692,0.0022915,0.0256269,0.0302746,-0.0017288,0.0066637,-0.0122503,-0.011819,0.0107518,-0.001248,-0.0041344,-0.0018346,-0.0052,-0.0010522,0.0014705,-0.0024839,-0.0003285,-0.0030979,0.0003532
Spain&Portugal:B,0.1213984,0.1474236,0.0472685,0.003526,0.0488319,-0.0012538,-0.0012468,0.0009432,0.0252244,0.0360865,-0.0053859,0.0098206,-0.0176049,-0.0150589,0.0124104,0.0022994,-0.0051303,0.0008226,-0.0029851,-0.0024845,0.0054828,0.0003058,-0.0053878,-0.00312,0.001259
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Target: KirgonixPereira_scaled
Distance: 1.6571% / 0.01657142
43.8Spain&Portugal
29.8Northern_Italy
19.2France
4.2Northern_Africa
1.8Nigeria-East_Central
0.6Northern_Asia
0.6Northern_India
 
hapiness15 said:
Try to erase north italy because there s too similarity between west iberia and north italy
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Target: KirgonixPereira_scaled
Distance: 1.6806% / 0.01680568
49.0Spain&Portugal
26.0France
18.8Southern_Italy
3.2Northern_Africa
2.0Nigeria-East_Central
0.6Northern_Asia
0.4Southern_India
 
Kirgonix Pereira said:
Target: KirgonixPereira_scaled
Distance: 1.6806% / 0.01680568
49.0Spain&Portugal
26.0France
18.8Southern_Italy
3.2Northern_Africa
2.0Nigeria-East_Central
0.6Northern_Asia
0.4Southern_India
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By your results we can know probably your ancient tribes is a mix of ancient iberian tribes , celts/germanic , italics , moors , nice results
 
hapiness15 said:
By your results we can know probably your ancient tribes is a mix of ancient iberian tribes , celts/germanic , italics , moors , nice results
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It makes sense, on myheritage my results were:
- Iberian 60.6%
- Balkan 12.0%
- Scandinavian 9.6%
- Italian 6.8%
- North African 11.0%

In FTDNA:
Iberian Peninsula - 53%
Sardinia - 14%
Central Europe - 33%

My results on MyTrueAncestry are:
- Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (4.78)
- Thracian + Illyrian (6.094)
- Etruscan + Illyrian (6.293)
- Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (6.765)
- Gallo-Roman (7.393)
- Gallo-Roman + Thracian (7.424)
- Illyrian (7.465)

 
Here's my result's with G25 coords produced (from IllustrativeDNA) by merging my raw dna files from Ancestry, 23&Mev4, 23&v5, and MyHeritage:

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How accurate is MTA ...............I changed my upload and got this

MTA upgraded my results after I changed my upload from 23andme v3 to ftdna BigY



1. Illyrian Jazinka Cave Croatia
700 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.711 - I26742
Top 99 % match vs all user

2. Illyrian Smiljan Croatia
530 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.836 - I24639
Top 99 % match vs all users


Gaul + Gallo-Roman (3.88)
Gaul + Illyrian (4.188)
Illyrian (4.711)
Gaul + Pannonian (5.915)
Gaul + Scordisci (6.03)
Scordisci (6.203)
Pannonian (7.103)
Gaul (8.09)
Gallo-Roman (8.607)



Illyrian 50.2% ...............................................was 42.2%
Pannonian 16.3% ........................................was 11.1%
the others are less than 7%
 
torzio said:
How accurate is MTA ...............I changed my upload and got this

MTA upgraded my results after I changed my upload from 23andme v3 to ftdna BigY



1. Illyrian Jazinka Cave Croatia
700 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.711 - I26742
Top 99 % match vs all user

2. Illyrian Smiljan Croatia
530 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.836 - I24639
Top 99 % match vs all users


Gaul + Gallo-Roman (3.88)
Gaul + Illyrian (4.188)
Illyrian (4.711)
Gaul + Pannonian (5.915)
Gaul + Scordisci (6.03)
Scordisci (6.203)
Pannonian (7.103)
Gaul (8.09)
Gallo-Roman (8.607)



Illyrian 50.2% ...............................................was 42.2%
Pannonian 16.3% ........................................was 11.1%
the others are less than 7%
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mine results changed a little bit aswell but as is 2-Way i can't get a better fit , but basically now shows celtics , germanics , moors , roma+iberia but before was only moors , roma+iberia and germanics

Gaul + Al-Andalus (17.64)
Gaul + Moor (17.64)
Thuringii + Al-Andalus (18.05)
Thuringii + Moor (18.05)
Al-Andalus + Roman Hispania (19.64)
 
torzio said:
How accurate is MTA ...............I changed my upload and got this

MTA upgraded my results after I changed my upload from 23andme v3 to ftdna BigY



1. Illyrian Jazinka Cave Croatia
700 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.711 - I26742
Top 99 % match vs all user

2. Illyrian Smiljan Croatia
530 BC - Genetic Distance: 5.836 - I24639
Top 99 % match vs all users


Gaul + Gallo-Roman (3.88)
Gaul + Illyrian (4.188)
Illyrian (4.711)
Gaul + Pannonian (5.915)
Gaul + Scordisci (6.03)
Scordisci (6.203)
Pannonian (7.103)
Gaul (8.09)
Gallo-Roman (8.607)



Illyrian 50.2% ...............................................was 42.2%
Pannonian 16.3% ........................................was 11.1%
the others are less than 7%
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as your from northeast italy , algorithm from them is trying to put a average between populations with similarity between italics and celts , you came from a region had a lot cisalpine gauls and proto-italics , illyrians aswell but iberians also receive illyrians probably because north italy have too similarity with iberia mainly west iberia so algorithm put to iberians illyrians aswell , but yours results is showing more similarity with celts tribes than italics
 
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