G25 Medieval by Alwakeel

qh777

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I added these to the list:
France_Medieval_o,0.129758,0.146236,0.057699,0.037145,0.040315,0.017291,0.00188,0.002308,-0.001841,0.010934,-0.001137,0.004946,-0.018583,-0.023533,0.022937,0.017767,0.002608,0.001267,0.001885,0.01088,0.00262,0.005812,-0.006286,0.002048,-0.013532
Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman,0.1265792,0.1315286,0.0600402,0.0508447,0.0368238,0.0178875,0.000705,0.0048618,0.0043937,0.0011438,-0.0062604,0.0071419,-0.0153941,-0.0164436,0.0252954,0.007832,-0.0080209,0.0015596,0.0018855,0.0036828,0.0051288,0.0038034,0.0013388,0.0119334,-0.0005368
Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG,0.134311,0.136081,0.069013,0.058463,0.041238,0.019243,0.002585,0.008077,0.011044,-0.00328,-0.007145,-0.000599,-0.006095,0.002202,0.022665,-0.001591,-0.022296,0.002534,0.010307,0.005253,0.007861,0.011623,-0.004807,0.009158,-0.006227
Mine:
Distance to:qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
0.0182107411.00% Byzantium:BGR_RomByz + 89.00% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.018581887.40% Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz1 + 92.60% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0188282012.40% Italy:Sardinia_MA + 87.60% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0189666620.00% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA + 80.00% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0195899215.80% Italy:Rome_MA + 84.20% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0197648281.80% Britain:England_MA + 18.20% Italy:Sardinia_MA
0.0198631413.80% Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz + 86.20% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0199680971.80% Britain:England_MA + 28.20% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.020249058.20% Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_PostMdv + 91.80% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020334569.40% Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz + 90.60% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020480278.60% Roman_Anatolia:TUR_Marmara_Apollonia_Rom + 91.40% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020525618.20% Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2 + 91.80% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0205632712.80% Albania:ALB_Mdv + 87.20% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020659398.20% Roman_Anatolia:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Camandras_Dalagöz_Rom + 91.80% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020662208.40% Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Basilica_RomByz_A + 91.60% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020728695.60% Ummayad_Caliphate:SYR_Tell_Qarassa_Early_Antiquity:syr005 + 94.40% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020739428.60% Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Samantas_Byz + 91.40% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0207468313.00% Albania:ALB_PostMdv + 87.00% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0208029615.40% Byzantium:BGR_RomByz + 84.60% Britain:England_MA
0.0208267510.80% Byzantium:Byzantium_Middle_Age + 89.20% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020868395.20% Ummayad_Caliphate:SYR_Tell_Qarassa_Early_Antiquity:syr013 + 94.80% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.0209408412.40% Iberia:Al-Andalus_MA + 87.60% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.020971417.00% Levant:Levant_MA + 93.00% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.021007748.60% Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz + 91.40% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.021062608.20% Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom + 91.80% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman

Target: qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
Distance: 0.0172% / 0.01719967
54.9Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
25.7Britain:England_MA
7.3France_Medieval_o
5.6Byzantium:BGR_RomByz
4.8Italy:Sardinia_MA
1.7Ummayad_Caliphate:SYR_Tell_Qarassa_Early_Antiquity:syr005



Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0175% / 0.01754839
84.0Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
6.9Britain:England_MA
6.3Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz1
2.8Byzantium:BGR_RomByz
Distance to:qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
0.02536676Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.03288138France_Medieval_o
0.03302648Britain:England_MA
0.03599701Norway:Norse_Atlantic_MA
0.03844547Germany:Germania_MA
0.04776642Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
0.05431830Sweden:Sweden_Kingdom_MA
0.05561755Hungary:Hungary_MA
0.06909020Czeck:Bohemia_MA
0.07019222Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.07231952Mecadonia:MKD_Mdv
0.07519428Byzantium:BGR_Ryahovets_Mdv
0.07871290Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3
0.08105232Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
0.08452793Croatia:HRV_Vinkovci_Mdv
0.08866166Italy:Rome_MA
0.09144054Russia:Kievan_Rus_MA
0.10041612Albania:ALB_PostMdv
0.10103292Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz
0.10318825Albania:ALB_Mdv
0.10357125Byzantium:BGR_Samovodene_Mdv
0.10366739Iberia:Al-Andalus_MA
0.10635410Byzantium:BGR_Veliko_Tarnovo_Mdv
0.10784925Baltic:Lithuania_MA
0.11176191Baltic:Estonia_MA

Still not sure about the distances in G25. My guess is 0.025 and lower is close and 0.035-0.045 is related/average fit/fits within the population. 0.8-0.11 some relatedness but will not fit within the population. 0.14-0.2 some connection but not much.
 
Distance to:who_cares_scaled
0.02736898Albania:ALB_PostMdv
0.03202395Italy:Rome_MA
0.03536493Albania:ALB_Mdv
0.03987983Byzantium:BGR_Ryahovets_Mdv
0.04063931Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz
0.04481942Byzantium:BGR_Veliko_Tarnovo_Mdv
0.04567076Mecadonia:MKD_Mdv
0.04723200Ottoman_Empire:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_PostMdv
0.04894488Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.05346940Byzantium:Byzantium_Middle_Age
0.05492966Hungary:Hungary_MA
0.06044144Croatia:HRV_Vinkovci_Mdv
0.06164527Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.06504194Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
0.06838737Iberia:Al-Andalus_MA
0.07617674Italy:Sardinia_MA
0.07900366Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
0.08123806Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3
0.08561352Czeck:Bohemia_MA
0.08601589Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.08779515Byzantium:BGR_Samovodene_Mdv
0.08849522Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Samantas_Byz
0.08926038Germany:Germania_MA
0.09252482Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.09370568Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Basilica_RomByz_A




Target: who_cares_scaled
Distance: 0.9304% / 0.00930428 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.0Albania:ALB_PostMdv
18.0Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
14.8Italy:Rome_MA
8.6Albania:ALB_Mdv
8.0Hungary:Hungary_MA
3.4Byzantium:BGR_Samovodene_Mdv
3.2Byzantium:BGR_Ryahovets_Mdv
 
Distance to:who_cares_scaled
0.02736898Albania:ALB_PostMdv
0.03202395Italy:Rome_MA
0.03536493Albania:ALB_Mdv
0.03987983Byzantium:BGR_Ryahovets_Mdv
0.04063931Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz
0.04481942Byzantium:BGR_Veliko_Tarnovo_Mdv
0.04567076Mecadonia:MKD_Mdv
0.04723200Ottoman_Empire:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_PostMdv
0.04894488Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.05346940Byzantium:Byzantium_Middle_Age
0.05492966Hungary:Hungary_MA
0.06044144Croatia:HRV_Vinkovci_Mdv
0.06164527Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.06504194Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
0.06838737Iberia:Al-Andalus_MA
0.07617674Italy:Sardinia_MA
0.07900366Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Y.kapi_Byz
0.08123806Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3
0.08561352Czeck:Bohemia_MA
0.08601589Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.08779515Byzantium:BGR_Samovodene_Mdv
0.08849522Byzantium:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Samantas_Byz
0.08926038Germany:Germania_MA
0.09252482Roman_Greece:GRC_Marathon_Rom
0.09370568Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Iznik_Basilica_RomByz_A




Target: who_cares_scaled
Distance: 0.9304% / 0.00930428 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.0Albania:ALB_PostMdv
18.0Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz_outlier
14.8Italy:Rome_MA
8.6Albania:ALB_Mdv
8.0Hungary:Hungary_MA
3.4Byzantium:BGR_Samovodene_Mdv
3.2Byzantium:BGR_Ryahovets_Mdv
Are you Albanian? I can’t recall if I’ve seen where ancestry is from.
 
Are you Albanian? I can’t recall if I’ve seen where ancestry is from.
No, I'm not Albanian. I am by ancestry from Macedonia, but we're Serbs.
 
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0100% / 0.00999107 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.3 Iberia
20.5 Britain
18.7 Byzantium
5.1 Hungary
3.4 France_Medieval_o

Distance to:Beowulf_Scaled
0.0141026525.40% Britain:England_MA + 74.60% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.0153841226.40% Norway:Norse_Atlantic_MA + 73.60% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.0155815921.60% Sweden:Sweden_Kingdom_MA + 78.40% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.0156908127.00% Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman + 73.00% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
0.0157686826.80% Germany:Germania_MA + 73.20% Iberia:Christian_Hispania_MA
 

Distance: 1.7347% / 0.01734744 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6Albania:ALB_PostMdv
17.2Baltic:Lithuania_MA
8.6Croatia:HRV_Vinkovci_Mdv
8.4Byzantium:HRV_Trogir_Byz
8.4Czeck:Bohemia_MA
5.4Byzantium:TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz3
5.4Britain:England_MA
2.0Byzantium:BGR_Veliko_Tarnovo_Mdv
 
No, I'm not Albanian. I am by ancestry from Macedonia, but we're Serbs.
Judging from your results you don't seem to be a descendant of Serbian colonists during the time when Serbia occupied the territory of present day North Macedonia and called it Vardarska Banovina.

May I ask you what language or more appropriate what dialect you speak at home?

I assume you were born or live in N.Macedonia?
 
Judging from your results you don't seem to be a descendant of Serbian colonists during the time when Serbia occupied the territory of present day North Macedonia and called it Vardarska Banovina.

May I ask you what language or more appropriate what dialect you speak at home?

I assume you were born or live in N.Macedonia?
No, I am born in Serbia. I have grandparents born in Macedonia, all from Drimkol area.
 
"Srpski kolonisti" vidi se odma da je klovan siptarski
I don't understand why you go around and call people clowns and 'Siptari'(derogatory Serbian term for Albanians for those who don't know) for simply stating well known historical facts?
I personally know people who are descendants of these colonists that were systematically and intentionally settled by the kingdom of SHS especially in the eastern and the southern regions.
They are kind people and loyal to the country but facts are facts, it's not something I came up with.
Many other countries through history used the colonisation as a measure to change the ethnic component on a territory which was recently acquired.
 
I don't understand why you go around and call people clowns and 'Siptari'(derogatory Serbian term for Albanians for those who don't know) for simply stating well known historical facts?
I personally know people who are descendants of these colonists that were systematically and intentionally settled by the kingdom of SHS especially in the eastern and the southern regions.
They are kind people and loyal to the country but facts are facts, it's not something I came up with.
Many other countries through history used the colonisation as a measure to change the ethnic component on a territory which was recently acquired.
He was a bit angry because you call Serbs from Macedonia colonists, implying that everyone can be native to Balkan except Serbs. However, if your ancestors moved from Aegean region in the early 20th century then you're colonist as well in Macedonia :)
 
Yes thats right. Everyone is very "native" while Serbs only ones colonists. Serbia free Vardarska from Ottomans in balkan war. In ww1 we lost more than millions of lifes losing 28% populations for freedom. Did any other around us died for territories like us? we are colonists then why didn't you all die like us for freedom? let me hear it
 
He was a bit angry because you call Serbs from Macedonia colonists, implying that everyone can be native to Balkan except Serbs. However, if your ancestors moved from Aegean region in the early 20th century then you're colonist as well in Macedonia :)
I would say a migrant because colonization is an organised process, mainly by states and governments.
A migration can involve groups or individuals simply changing places of living mostly because of personal reasons.

Nevertheless I was just interested for you because I am from N.Macedonia and we have very similar ancestry composition.
Nevertheless, ethnicity is a cultural thing, not genetic.
 
Yes thats right. Everyone is very "native" while Serbs only ones colonists. Serbia free Vardarska from Ottomans in balkan war. In ww1 we lost more than millions of lifes losing 28% populations for freedom. Did any other around us died for territories like us? we are colonists then why didn't you all die like us for freedom? let me hear it
I am not denying the existence of Serbs in the region of Macedonia prior the 20th century.
However there were also people colonised by the Kingdom of SHS from Serbia and beyond and these mostly have different ancestry composition(not totally different) but still easily recognisable from someone whose ancestral ties with the region of Macedonia date well before the 20th century.
Hence why I asked him that question.. Duh
 
I don't know what is Macedonia i know there is Macedonia in Greece. Vardarska was part of Serbia in medieval time too is it so hard to check information? tell me when did that land ever wear name "Albania" ? why did not Albanians lose 28% population for territories that they think its theirs?

 
Skopje From 1282 was part of the Serbia and was capital city from 1346 to 1371. Albania did not existed then.
 
I don't know how did this ended up with the Serbian medieval kingdom from just an ordinary question if the person is a descendant of colonists or native.

No I am not an Albanian I am Slavic Macedonian, my mother tongue is Slavic Macedonian, I don't know what you're on about.

The country's name isn't Vardarska but North Macedonia. In the past the territory was part of the Roman Empire, the Bulgarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire as well, so what?

What's your point?
Don't play games just be straight forward, what's all this blabbering for?
 
I don't know how did this ended up with the Serbian medieval kingdom from just an ordinary question if the person is a descendant of colonists or native.

No I am not an Albanian I am Slavic Macedonian, my mother tongue is Slavic Macedonian, I don't know what you're on about.

The country's name isn't Vardarska but North Macedonia. In the past the territory was part of the Roman Empire, the Bulgarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire as well, so what?

What's your point?
Don't play games just be straight forward, what's all this blabbering for?
What is Slavic Macedonian tongue? after balkan war Serbia split Macedonia with Bulgaria and Greece, we got Vardarska, Greeks Aegean
Bulgarians Pirin. Bulgaria tried to take all but got crushed. In Repsect to Greeks that Macedonia name only have meaning in their language we just say Vardarska or simply South Serbia. There is no Maceodnian slav or Bosnians or Montenegrins made up nations by Tito to crush Serbs

 
What is Slavic Macedonian tongue? after balkan war Serbia split Macedonia with Bulgaria and Greece, we got Vardarska, Greeks Aegean
Bulgarians Pirin. Bulgaria tried to take all but got crushed. In Repsect to Greeks that Macedonia name only have meaning in their language we just say Vardarska or simply South Serbia. There is no Maceodnian slav or Bosnians or Montenegrins made up nations by Tito to crush Serbs

Well thx for showing your true colors, proper Balkan chav, in 21st century denying the right of some nations to exist.
Maybe you should try find some more appropriate site where you can heal your megalomaniac frustrations.
Anyway, your nation had the chance to be the leader that will unite the South Slavic nations but blew up. It took a communist Croat to show you how is done and when your people took over you blew up yet again.

It's because of chavs like you but you never learn.
Keep living in your imaginary megalomaniac dreams.
 

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