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I've been running new kits (DNA), I got my hands on recently, through HarappaWorld admixture and started to notice some patterns. (Maybe real ones.
After quick calculations I found fairly good match for ancestral source of Unetice Culture. Have a look:
I mixed Hungarian Late Neolithic Farmer with also Late Neolithic Yamnaya. Actually, the Yamnaya guy was an outlier found in Yamnaya, genetically looking much different than typical Yamnayan. To me he looks more like pure or almost pure hunter-gatherer, and probably will match recently found hunter gatherers of Latvia and Ukraine. It hard to be sure though, as they don't have kits in GedMatch yet. If this Yamnaya outlier have some farmer admixed in it, it would have been from EEF source. His closest match, from existing GedMatch kits, is Estonian CW, who had some EEF.
In short, Unetice people, could be composed from Late Neolithic "Hungarian" Farmer and Outlier Hunter Gatherer from Samara, but most likely originally from Ukraine/West Yamnaya. (Just being on "vacation" in Samara/East Yamnaya).
First two columns contain Samara outlier and Hungarian farmer runs. Third column, in bold, is for supposed mixed offspring of these two, in proportions of 80% of Samara Outlier and 20% NE7 Farmer. Fourth column shows real Unetice guy genome. It is damn close I must say!
[TABLE="width: 549"]
[TR]
[TD]M630274[/TD]
[TD] I0432[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]F999928[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]NE7, I-L1228[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Mix of R1a h-g with LN Farmer[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]M453254 RISE154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Samara Poltavka outlier R1a-M417>Z93[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]2925-2536 BC[/TD]
[TD]Hungary, Apc-Berekalja I[/TD]
[TD]6.4kya[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 -[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.79[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.72[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run Time[/TD]
[TD]4.06[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14.7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD] 11.76[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD]14.46[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19.04[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD] 3.81[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD]4.05[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]63.14[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.69[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD] 53.85[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD]53.71[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD]0.96[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22.15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]56.18[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD] 28.96[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD]26.58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.96[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD] 1.59[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD]0.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD] 0.02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
After quick calculations I found fairly good match for ancestral source of Unetice Culture. Have a look:
I mixed Hungarian Late Neolithic Farmer with also Late Neolithic Yamnaya. Actually, the Yamnaya guy was an outlier found in Yamnaya, genetically looking much different than typical Yamnayan. To me he looks more like pure or almost pure hunter-gatherer, and probably will match recently found hunter gatherers of Latvia and Ukraine. It hard to be sure though, as they don't have kits in GedMatch yet. If this Yamnaya outlier have some farmer admixed in it, it would have been from EEF source. His closest match, from existing GedMatch kits, is Estonian CW, who had some EEF.
In short, Unetice people, could be composed from Late Neolithic "Hungarian" Farmer and Outlier Hunter Gatherer from Samara, but most likely originally from Ukraine/West Yamnaya. (Just being on "vacation" in Samara/East Yamnaya).
First two columns contain Samara outlier and Hungarian farmer runs. Third column, in bold, is for supposed mixed offspring of these two, in proportions of 80% of Samara Outlier and 20% NE7 Farmer. Fourth column shows real Unetice guy genome. It is damn close I must say!
[TABLE="width: 549"]
[TR]
[TD]M630274[/TD]
[TD] I0432[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]F999928[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]NE7, I-L1228[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Mix of R1a h-g with LN Farmer[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]M453254 RISE154[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Samara Poltavka outlier R1a-M417>Z93[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]2925-2536 BC[/TD]
[TD]Hungary, Apc-Berekalja I[/TD]
[TD]6.4kya[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC] K1a4a1 -[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.79[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.72[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run time[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Run Time[/TD]
[TD]4.06[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]S-Indian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14.7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD] 11.76[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Baloch[/TD]
[TD]14.46[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19.04[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD] 3.81[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD]4.05[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]63.14[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.69[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD] 53.85[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Euro[/TD]
[TD]53.71[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SE-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Siberian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]NE-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Papuan[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]American[/TD]
[TD]0.96[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Beringian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22.15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]56.18[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD] 28.96[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD]26.58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.96[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD] 1.59[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]SW-Asian[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]San[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]E-African[/TD]
[TD]0.2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD] -[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Pygmy[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD] 0.02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]W-African[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]