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Scandinavian, maybe. If not, Dutch or Western German, although they've given him really brutal, archaic features, which is either a mistake, or he's some newly arrived mostly steppe and WHG type.
Certainly don't see much influence from Neolithic farmers.
Unless the pigmentation is based on snps from the skull or other remains, it remains unknown.
I don't know if we can rely on the pigmentation aspect, but it isn't the most important.
Not knowing the datation, it's difficult to assign it a precise place in Europe. I would have preferred a localisation between Northwestern Europe and Northeastern Europe, Steppes in it. North surer since Neolithic.
Globally, yes, Northerner (and Angela), predominantly 'capelloid/brünnoid' with some increments of 'croma' (the protuding chin, and small orbits) but individual variations existed since long ago. I would have preferred have more angles of the nude skull...
Curiously, he was more primitive than the mean of these types, concerning his al strong alveolar prognathism (but when you look at my skull (radiography, no emotion, I' am not writing from Hell or Heaven) or at Schwarzenegger face, both of the 20th century...
result of 'cromagnon' and 'brünn' crossings of Mesolithic, where the 'brünnoid' phylum dominates, surely even more on the lateral view
Looks neo danubian to me, like this Russian
And it makes sense if this guy was pre EEF expansion, and is more similar to people with least EEF today, Balts and North Russians
@Norhterner
Thanks for the dates you showed me.
I was not referring to your affirmations when i evoked the links/no link between features and paleo pop's, it was just to protect me against eventual remarks because I had been "attacked" (in past, and politely) for my referencing to too ancient pops when speaking of features of more close pop's (in time).
Coming to CWC people mean features, as a whole and spite bearing some input of ancient northern pops ("archaic" ones for aspect, present since long ago in all Northern Europe and even in Northeast at those times, shadowed a time by Neolithic southern pop's), average CWC were more high skulled and less "primitive" than this man, their faces were less broad for bizygomatic. Something more 'nordic' + slight 'danubian EEF' than this man. What doesn't exclude some atavism, some resurging of an almost complete set of archaic traits in some individuals not purely local but truly and anciently CWC members from East.
I agree Flanders and the Netherlands shelter one of the less low input of this 'brünnoid' todate, in Northeast Europe, it has been a bit more flooded under other recent types.
^^I don't think most people are aware of the "mean" measurements for Corded Ware finds, nor of their pigmentation profile.
I think Coon was the closest.
"(4) Corded: Tall stature, means 167-174 cm.; build linear but muscular, perhaps heavier than the Megalithic; extremely longheaded, 194 mm. mean. Vault of great height, means over 140 mm., exceeding breadth; browridges and muscular markings medium to strong; face very long, and of slight to moderate breadth; mandible deep and chin marked, but narrow through gonial angles. Nose leptorrhine (long narrow nose - Translator's Note), often prominent. (Profile of the skull as seen from above usually takes a form of a long oval with almost parallel sides, which is the Corded type, p. 163 - Translator's Note) This type, in western and northern Europe, approaches in some respects the Upper Paleolithic type with which it mixed.(5) (Afghanian ...A small variety found in Asia Minor Cappadocia, while a larger form commoner farther east, and metrically close to the Corded, may be called Afghanian."
The same is true for later Bronze Age finds in western Europe.
Early Bronze Age woman from Scotland, "Ava", before her snps were revealed, and after.
^^I don't think most people are aware of the "mean" measurements for Corded Ware finds, nor of their pigmentation profile.
I think Coon was the closest.
"(4) Corded: Tall stature, means 167-174 cm.; build linear but muscular, perhaps heavier than the Megalithic; extremely longheaded, 194 mm. mean. Vault of great height, means over 140 mm., exceeding breadth; browridges and muscular markings medium to strong; face very long, and of slight to moderate breadth; mandible deep and chin marked, but narrow through gonial angles. Nose leptorrhine (long narrow nose - Translator's Note), often prominent. (Profile of the skull as seen from above usually takes a form of a long oval with almost parallel sides, which is the Corded type, p. 163 - Translator's Note) This type, in western and northern Europe, approaches in some respects the Upper Paleolithic type with which it mixed.(5) (Afghanian ...A small variety found in Asia Minor Cappadocia, while a larger form commoner farther east, and metrically close to the Corded, may be called Afghanian."
The same is true for later Bronze Age finds in western Europe.
Early Bronze Age woman from Scotland, "Ava", before her snps were revealed, and after.
Do you have some evidence for the more 'gracile' CW? Sometimes I think that the old anthropologist unto Coon were pretty biased and picture the gracile CW Nordic more gracile than it was In my region I still see lots of robust and broad features.....more than fit in the "nordic" picture
Agree concerning Coon. But I don't see any closeness between this "Scot woman and the 'corded' type.
Nevertheless, this "mise au point" concerning some hazardous reconstructions for pigmentation is a good thing!
Agree concerning Coon. But I don't see any closeness between this "Scot woman and the 'corded' type.
Nevertheless, this "mise au point" concerning some hazardous reconstructions for pigmentation is a good thing!
Just to be clear, I don't think she's Corded looking AT ALL, nor is the man who is the subject of the original post.
I also agree that however wrong these anthropologists were in their views politically, of them all Coon, imo, is the most consistent and best in terms of the delineation of the different "types".
What some people just don't see or understand is that there are a lot of non-Corded and non-Nordic looking people in the Scandinavian countries, in Germany, etc. and BB people were only about 50% steppe. This confounding of Paleolithic/Mesolithic phenotypes with those of admixed groups like BB is not supported by the evidence.
Whatever may be said about Coon statements concerning superiority or inferiority, the most of his statements concerning physical measures was correct. Today Northern Germanics people are far from the 'nordic' and from the 'corded' type (other accretions than typical 'nordic'), and this has been said by Coon himself. Resurgence of diverse 'borreby'like people and also non-brachycephalized archaic types issued of the "aborigenes" pre-neolithic and who had partly taken their "revenge" over the gracile farmers in the Late Neolithic pop's (Trichterbecher/Funnelbeaker).
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