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that is my point,
that words Celt/Gaul Slav Selloi comes from as you wrote it *ghel, -Kel
and yes the bird is χελιδων khelidon, but birds from ancient times they ωδουν (sing) or κελαιδουν (speak-communicate) or κρωζουν (ungly sound like ravens)
and group gives Greek word Γλωσσα Γλωττα.
*ghel in Greek loses the vowel after K and becomes Γ to make Γλωσσα
or Γλωσσα gets a vowel among Γ and L and drops to K
when I said about Callicum and Galliciano
I must say this
Romans build Callicum
Greeks translated as Καλλικον (officially at Catholic church pappers) the city but spell it as Γαλλικο, the river, Gallikos,
and when moved to Italy named it Galliciano, Γαλλικιανον.
so the official at letter is Kallikon as should be,
but the living sound is Gallikos,
it is like playing with Galledonia or Kalledonia or Calledonia?
all I believe is that early form *ghel -kel
gave these words, kelis/kelitas, Glossa, yell, Γαλατσευω, call, Celt, Gaul, Slav, Selloi etc etc
Even the word Kallas Kallasha
and i think it is possible.
now you have Ocam's razor.
Have you some reason to explain why K- words gave K- in some words and G- (whatever the evolution of pronounciation in Greek) in other words or is it dialect based (here i need proofs)?
Concerning Kallikon, have you the proof it was pronounced Gallikon or as you write Gallikos BY GREEKS in ANCIENT TIMES; I rather think its was spelled with C- in Latin but pronounced G- by latin speakers already at this times (it's a phenomenon present in today W-Romance words where C- >> G-); then written K/C in both and pronounced /g/>/y/ in greek?
It's my last post concerning this ONLY case (Galliciano) , because I don't know, apart my habits of principal diverse phonetic evolutions.
That said you 'll have hard work to convince me that all the cases and words you cite are all of them of the same root; vague common meaning is not sufficient. For 'slovo' OK but it's not a scoop (no link with 'glosso' at first sight, but with 'cleos',cf breton 'klewed' "to hear", english 'loud', cf dutch 'luid' germ- 'laut' germanic *hlû-d-).
That said you can give me some clues about times/places EVIDENT evolutions of Greek, I 'll be glad because I 'm not knowledged in this language, doing only some comparisons concerning some reliable roots.