Minty said:
You know in the US they have places called little Tokyo, little Shanghai, little Taipei, little Seoul, little Saigon?cetc and people within the area still speak their languages and live among themselves keeping their own customs. Some choose to mix with whites but others just hang around with their own kinds.
True, but this is a very tiny part of the total population, and maybe not even mainly made of people born and raised in the US, but temporary migrants who later go back to their country. In France, 10% of the population is now Muslim , and almost all of them are ethnic Arabs. It's almost as much as the percentage of Blacks in the US population, except that it took 500 years to reach that percentage and only 50 years in France.
I think immigrants still celebrate their festivals too. For example, I know that Chinese New Year is still celebrated in Australia and in the US among Chinese communities.
I have no problem with immigrants celebrating their festivals and traditions, as long as they are not demanding (not just "asking") from the government that exceptions be made for them when it comes to do illegal stuff during the performance of those traditions. If the government says "no conspicuous religious symbols in public institutions for everybody of every religion", then respect the law. That's just that simple !
With names I find that Korean and Chinese tend to have adopted English plus keeping their Chinese or Korean names and surnames translated into roman letters. For example, Vivian CHOW Wai Man, Jimmy LIN Zhi Ying, (cap locks are the surnames.) So in short it is just Vivian Chow, Jimmy Lin ?cetc.
Yes, I noticed that the
Chinese (more than any other Asians) do that, even in China, when doing business with Westerners, so that it is easier for them to remember or pronounce their name. That's a pretty good idea.
My husband dad comes from Italy he changed his Italian name to a French version of the name. Let me explain what I mean, for example the name Anthony which is English, Antoine is the French version of it and Antonio is the Italian version of it. His name was not Antonio of course, just an example.
With my husband?fs given name his grandmother wanted to name him this Italian name but he got the French version of it instead, because unlike his grandmother who likes to cling on to her roots his father has chosen to be assimilated into the French society.
I never considered my given name as a fixed in spelling or pronunciation. When I was in Italy, I used only the Italian spelling and pronuciation, never the one written on my birth certificate. Same in Spain, or in whatever else Europea country, whenever a translation was available.
I know the Vietnamese who live in France, after 5 generations still speak and keep their customs and believe. I wonder what?fs different about them and the Arabs that caused Europeans to dislike Arabs so much, do Arab perhaps provoke Europeans more openly?:?
The difference is that they don't break the law while keeping their customs and traditions. They don't provoke people (verbal abuse, vandalism, violence...), they don't talk with a strong accent on purpose, they don't attack the values of their host countries, etc. like Muslims do. A few months ago, the Muslim communities across Europe menaced European governments that if they didn't scrap freedom of speech (about Islam) they would
destroy Europe. That's not something people like to hear, especially after all those terrorist attacks and burned cars in the previous months.
There are lots of East Asians in Europe too, but we never hear from them. Very discreet, pretty well-integrated (Asian restaurants are more popular and numerous than ever).
This article of the Economist mentions that there are 9x more people of Arabic descent in French jails than people of French descent. In Belgium, I heard that 30 or 40% of all people in jail are from Moroccan descent, in spite that they only make up aout 5% of the total population. Chinese ? Indians ? Eastern Europeans ? Latin Americans ? Black Africans ? All of them combined don't make a tenth of all the troubles caused only by the Maghrebans.