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According to the Amorim charts of genetic structure at Szolad and Collegno: These were the Pannonian Roman samples

SZ43 is mostly TSI or Tuscan-like with about 30pc IBS (Iberian-like), with less than 10pc CEU+GBR (North European);

SZ36 is about 75pc Tuscan-like and 25pc Iberian (IBS);

SZ32 is about 60pc TSI and 40pc IBS;

SZ19 is 100pc TSI or Tuscan-like.

This is strange.....
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What is the meaning of this

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I don’t see what so strange about it.

Ain’t you happy, Smile, you’re a Salentino too. LOL

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... just kidding :)

If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.


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This is strange.....
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What is the meaning of this

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It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

None of this is new, really.

My latest ancient matches:
ZXh9aTc.png


There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

My closest result
is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.
e3IiDzp.jpg
 
It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

None of this is new, really.

My latest ancient matches:
ZXh9aTc.png


There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

My closest result
is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.
e3IiDzp.jpg

Thanks for your explanation.


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If this mean I am Salentino.....great, it seems more than you.

They gave you a better explanation.

Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.

I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).

There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.

The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)

otranto-_albania-2.jpg


https://www.lecceprima.it/speciale/foto-giorno/l-albania-vista-dal-porto-di-otranto.html
 
@Torzio

Your top y T sample (CL23) dropped some and the other T (SZ36) went up.

Are the 2 results you posted from the same Raw-Data?


My Top y T sample (SZ36) goes from first to second depending on the RawData.

for example:

Combined RawData:
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Ancestry:

itAmcxk.jpg



23v5:

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What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
 
What is sz28 marker.....different papers state different things
For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:

dl51TFa.jpg


gA0qxOb.jpg



SZ28 Modern Group


1. North_Italian (5.633)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
5. Portuguese (10.26)
6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.31)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.41)


SZ28 PCA Ancient

ovz2P0W.jpg



SZ28 PCA Modern
42K7cYs.jpg
 
For MTA SZ28 is a Gallo Roman:

dl51TFa.jpg


gA0qxOb.jpg



SZ28 Modern Group


1. North_Italian (5.633)
2. Spanish_Andalucia (8.510)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (10.02)
4. Spanish_Valencia (10.03)
5. Portuguese (10.26)
6. Spanish_Murcia (10.30)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (10.31)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.41)


SZ28 PCA Ancient

ovz2P0W.jpg



SZ28 PCA Modern
42K7cYs.jpg

I mean its mtdna as it is a female
 

Edit:

SZ28 mtDNA is H3b5 according to:

https://www.researchgate.net/public...51574f7d26254/41467-2018-6024-MOESM4-ESM.xlsx

... the link works perfectly on my Safari browser.

thanks


my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower

1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

 
It means Albanians and Tuscans are relatively similar, which we've known forever. On some PCAs Albanians are eastward shifted Tuscans, while on some they overlap. It depends on the Tuscan samples used and sometimes on who's doing the PCA, if you want my personal opinion (i.e. what they want to prove).

Albanians are also like a northern subset of mainland Greeks on some PCAs.

None of this is new, really.

My latest ancient matches:
ZXh9aTc.png


There's one gedmatch test which has no Northern Italian or even Tuscan samples. The algorithm searched for the next closest groups, and if I remember correctly, it came out Bulgarian first and then Albanian.

@Dibran,
SZ36 is the one who is most Tuscan like. SZ43 is a bit different. Maybe drifting toward the Romagna?

My closest result
is SZ43 which is slightly north of SZ36, the most Tuscan like sample, which makes sense for the Lunigiana/eastern Liguria, and my next closest is a Collegno sample which is similar to Emilians (and I'm half Emilian), CL36. It all makes perfect sense, at least for me.
e3IiDzp.jpg
Very, very, interesting.
 
thanks


my father results below.........i ignored anything from 97% or lower

1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 8.072 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

2. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 8.577 - CL94 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.617 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.818 - I3313 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.835 - I4332 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.835 - I5769 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.766 - CL36 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users



my first cousin, once removed from Cles , Val di Non, Trentino, Italy ...................with mtdna of T1a1e

1. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

5. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 (Click for more info)
Top 98% match vs all users

7. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

 
my wife new results ......huge % drop from 4 to 5 in the placings


1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 6.716 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 8.715 - I4332 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 8.715 - I5769 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 8.97 - DA199 (Click for more info)
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 10.04 - SZ18 (Click for more info)
Top 95% match vs all users

 
Kit Reupload, New Deep Dive:
CL25 CL36 SZ32 SZ19 CL121 CL38 CL30 NS3c ...


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... matching with K36 Ancient: CL25, SZ19, CL36

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New Combined Kit (23 format)

Map of Closest matches from Ancient Times:

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Deep Dive map:

jAxFfhy.jpg


Mix PCA:

lhfOPbh.jpg


Deep Dive:
XYmuiVk.jpg


Archaeogenetic matches...

XxA1tz4.jpg


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Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.

Mine updated a little bit as well:

hk1.png


hk2.png


hk3.png


hk4.png


Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.095 - SZ32 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.978 - SZ36 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.66 - SZ43 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users


4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.11 - CL36 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.32 - I9033 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.22 - NS3c (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.63 - I4332 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 13.63 - I5769 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


9. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.67 - CL121 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


10. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.72 - SZ40 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


11. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - SZ19 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


12. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.95 - I3575 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.13 - I3576 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users


14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.44 - scy192 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.44 - SI-53 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


17. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 15.7 - NS3b (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 16.46 - I4930 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


19. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.64 - I2647 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


20. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 17.3 - I3983 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


21. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.51 - I3582 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


22. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.81 - I12647 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


23. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.87 - I7424 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


24. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 18.35 - I7425 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


25. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.53 - I3981 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


26. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.58 - I9041 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


27. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 18.58 - I7499 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


28. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.82 - I3581 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


29. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 18.97 - MJ12 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


30. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.0 - SI-41 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


31. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 19.11 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
Top
48
% match vs all users


32. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.13 - I2649 (Click for more info)
Top
87
% match vs all users


33. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.15 - I12031 (Click for more info)
Top
68
% match vs all users


34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 19.45 - I3313 (Click for more info)
Top
80
% match vs all users


35. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 19.81 - CL94 (Click for more info)
Top
72
% match vs all users


36. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 19.84 - I2515 (Click for more info)
Top
86
% match vs all users


37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 19.92 - I4331 (Click for more info)
Top
85
% match vs all users


38. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 19.98 - CL25 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


39. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.12 - I3808 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


40. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 20.2 - SZ18 (Click for more info)
Top
37
% match vs all users


41. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 20.27 - CL38 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


42. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 20.3 - I12515 (Click for more info)
Top
85
% match vs all users


43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 20.45 - I9006 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


44. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 20.63 - ASH068_ASH_IA1 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


45. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.73 - I3980 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


46. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 20.79 - I3585 (Click for more info)
Top
89
% match vs all users


47. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 21.0 - I2514 (Click for more info)
Top
84
% match vs all users


48. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 21.05 - I2644 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


49. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 21.1 - DA199 (Click for more info)
Top
36
% match vs all users


50. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.15 - MA2198 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users


51. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 21.22 - CL30 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


52. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 21.32 - I9010 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


53. Ancient Greek Empuries (275 BC) ..... 21.8 - I8208 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users


54. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 21.86 - I7498 (Click for more info)
Top
86
% match vs all users


55. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 21.88 - I12514 (Click for more info)
Top
74
% match vs all users


56. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 21.93 - CL57 (Click for more info)
Top
41
% match vs all users


57. Trypillia (3500 BC) ..... 22.05 - I1926 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


58. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) ..... 22.15 - CL53 (Click for more info)
Top
31
% match vs all users


59. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 22.31 - scy311 (Click for more info)
Top
31
% match vs all users


60. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 22.96 - AED_1108 (Click for more info)
Top
28
% match vs all users
 
Thank you for your response. For some reason wasn't sent notification. Apologies for delay. I assume I shift so much to these Tuscan like samples due to the very elevated "IT" component me and my father have. Highest average is among Tuscans but we have even higher than they. I imagine this is why me and my father shift towards them.

Mine updated a little bit as well:

hk1.png


hk2.png


hk3.png


hk4.png


Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)


1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.095 - SZ32 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 8.978 - SZ36 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.66 - SZ43 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users


4. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 12.11 - CL36 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.32 - I9033 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


6. North Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 13.22 - NS3c (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


7. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 13.63 - I4332 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 13.63 - I5769 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


9. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) ..... 13.67 - CL121 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


10. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.72 - SZ40 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


11. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.96 - SZ19 (Click for more info)
Top
96
% match vs all users


12. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.95 - I3575 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


13. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.13 - I3576 (Click for more info)
Top
97
% match vs all users


14. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.27 - SZ28 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


15. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.44 - scy192 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


16. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 15.44 - SI-53 (Click for more info)
Top
98
% match vs all users


17. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 15.7 - NS3b (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 16.46 - I4930 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


19. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.64 - I2647 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


20. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) ..... 17.3 - I3983 (Click for more info)
Top
95
% match vs all users


21. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.51 - I3582 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


22. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.81 - I12647 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


23. Hellenic Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 17.87 - I7424 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


24. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 18.35 - I7425 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


25. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.53 - I3981 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


26. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 18.58 - I9041 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


27. Hellenic Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 18.58 - I7499 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


28. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.82 - I3581 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


29. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 18.97 - MJ12 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


30. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.0 - SI-41 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


31. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 19.11 - SZ45 (Click for more info)
Top
48
% match vs all users


32. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.13 - I2649 (Click for more info)
Top
87
% match vs all users


33. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.15 - I12031 (Click for more info)
Top
68
% match vs all users


34. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 19.45 - I3313 (Click for more info)
Top
80
% match vs all users


35. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 19.81 - CL94 (Click for more info)
Top
72
% match vs all users


36. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 19.84 - I2515 (Click for more info)
Top
86
% match vs all users


37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 19.92 - I4331 (Click for more info)
Top
85
% match vs all users


38. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 19.98 - CL25 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


39. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 20.12 - I3808 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


40. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 20.2 - SZ18 (Click for more info)
Top
37
% match vs all users


41. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) ..... 20.27 - CL38 (Click for more info)
Top
92
% match vs all users


42. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 20.3 - I12515 (Click for more info)
Top
85
% match vs all users


43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 20.45 - I9006 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


44. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) ..... 20.63 - ASH068_ASH_IA1 (Click for more info)
Top
99
% match vs all users


45. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) ..... 20.73 - I3980 (Click for more info)
Top
93
% match vs all users


46. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 20.79 - I3585 (Click for more info)
Top
89
% match vs all users


47. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 21.0 - I2514 (Click for more info)
Top
84
% match vs all users


48. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 21.05 - I2644 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


49. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 21.1 - DA199 (Click for more info)
Top
36
% match vs all users


50. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 21.15 - MA2198 (Click for more info)
Top
90
% match vs all users


51. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) ..... 21.22 - CL30 (Click for more info)
Top
91
% match vs all users


52. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 21.32 - I9010 (Click for more info)
Top
94
% match vs all users


53. Ancient Greek Empuries (275 BC) ..... 21.8 - I8208 (Click for more info)
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54. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 21.86 - I7498 (Click for more info)
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This is one of the reasons I was always skeptical of the "Herodotus version" of Etruscan ethnogenesis. It seemed to me that the difference between the Albanians and the Tuscans was Northwest European versus Slavic, not the rest of the components. So, did the migration from Anatolia to Italy specifically in the first millenium BC also go to the northern Balkans? There was certainly no mention of it, and other ancient authors had a different opinion. Then, of course, there was all the archaeological evidence. So, maybe something was wrong with the narrative preferred by internet population geneticists.
 
They gave you a better explanation.

Keep in mind that under the right circumstances we can see each other’s Countries.

I saw Albania a few times from San Foca and Otranto (Salento, Italy).

There has been and there still is some exchange between our shores that has been going on for Millennia.

The Albanian Mountains viewed from Salento (Italy)

otranto-_albania-2.jpg


https://www.lecceprima.it/speciale/foto-giorno/l-albania-vista-dal-porto-di-otranto.html
I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...
 
I knew it was close but this really puts it into perspective. For all I know, my paternal ancestors swam over lol...

45 miles (72 km) from Capo d'Otranto, the Easternmost point of Italy, therefore it’s the closest point to Albania (Across the Adriatic Sea).

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