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To Salento
What is the breakdown of Torna Alta Andalucía?
My Top Match, SZ36 matches my Y Haplogroup, although I have another Top Match SZ40 on another Kit.
(AncestryDNA and 23andme don’t get along ...) :grin:
Salento, 11.62 is a great distance though. So your Top Match SZ36 is not your best fit.
Pax is right about the distance to that particular sample, 11.62 is fairly large. Though I'm sure, as you said ,we will all have different results when the samples are utilized. This particular calculator will have that happen, since they continuously update with new samples available. However, in regards to those samples from that "Leaked PCA"; we will still need to verify their identities, and the time-frame. I think it is important that we wait and be patient before investing so much in expectations.
TBH, I think leaked material, that is not officially verified is bad for our discourse. It serves more to create confusion, and misinformation.
another perspective:
DnaPortal K36 Ancient:
nMonte:
[h=3]Population[/h] | [h=3]Distance[/h] |
---|---|
[h=4]EMA_north-Italian_NW_54[/h] | [h=4]1.197928[/h] |
[h=4]CL36_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.237396[/h] |
[h=4]CL57_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.330768[/h] |
[h=4]SZ28_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.438457[/h] |
[h=4]SZ43_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.541763[/h] |
[h=4]CL63_Alpine[/h] | [h=4]1.577491[/h] |
[h=4]SZ37_Greek-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.615911[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Hungary_BR2[/h] | [h=4]1.63093[/h] |
[h=4]We are very different , even though we match very very close in haplogroup[/h] | |
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Here's mine. I'm not sure what exactly it means but I'm assuming R1B is fairly common for western Europe.
another perspective:
DnaPortal K36 Ancient:
nMonte:
Remebering that we are talking about matches with very ancient samples of very ancient peoples or civilizations. We are not talking about matches with modern peoples. In this sense, distances more hight must be tolerated and is this MTA do. For me It’s so clear the warning below of MTA to to all users of the application. I think, IMO, l that the results of Salento are very coerent with his ancestry from Apulia. Of course the existence of more samples from south Italy would be much better, but that does not invalidate the correct bias of Salento's results
Population | Distance |
---|---|
i3759_Celtiberian_IA | 1.333519 |
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent | 1.423613 |
I3759_Celtiberian | 1.501593 |
i3758_Celtiberian_IA | 1.550354 |
BA_Hungary_RISE373 | 1.567452 |
I3874_Beaker_South_France | 1.608371 |
I10892_Catalonia_medieval | 1.650611 |
SZ45_Pannonian | 1.751551 |
[h=3]Population[/h] | [h=3]Value[/h] |
---|---|
[h=4]i3759_Celtiberian_IA[/h] | [h=4]37[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Hungary_RISE373[/h] | [h=4]5[/h] |
[h=4]i3758_Celtiberian_IA[/h] | [h=4]4.4[/h] |
[h=4]i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/h] | [h=4]4.2[/h] |
[h=4]I3874_Beaker_South_France[/h] | [h=4]2.6[/h] |
[h=4]I3759_Celtiberian[/h] | [h=4]2.4[/h] |
[h=4]I3578_EMA_Andalusia[/h] | [h=4]2.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Portugal_TorreVelha_32032[/h] | [h=4]2[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_north-Italian_NW_54[/h] | [h=4]1.8[/h] |
[h=4]N_Sweden_Gökhem7[/h] | [h=4]1.8[/h] |
[h=4]I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD[/h] | [h=4]1.4[/h] |
[h=4]SZ43_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]1.4[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0113[/h] | [h=4]1.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_I1281[/h] | [h=4]1.2[/h] |
[h=4]N_Levant_AinGhazal5[/h] | [h=4]1.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Srubnaya_I0358[/h] | [h=4]1[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_I1277[/h] | [h=4]1[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Wielbark_Kow_55_PL[/h] | [h=4]1[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_I1303[/h] | [h=4]0.8[/h] |
[h=4]CWC_Sweden_RISE97[/h] | [h=4]0.8[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Greek-Balkan_AEH_1[/h] | [h=4]0.8[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE566[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0171[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany__RISE560_[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]CWC_Germany_I0108[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Alpine_STR_310[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]I1767_Beaker_Britain[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Britain_York_6DRIF18[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Britain_York_6DRIF21[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]SZ28_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]SZ45_Pannonian[/h] | [h=4]0.6[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Unetice_Czechia_RISE577[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_ATP16_[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_I1274[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Remedello_IT_RISE486[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]CL36_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]CL94_Iberian[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]DA112_Hallstatt-Bylany_800BC[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]EN_Iberia_I0410[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]I1767_EarlyBronze_Age_Briton[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Britain_York_6DRIF23[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]MN_Germany_I0560[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]MN_Iberia_I0405[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]Niederstotzingen_Alemmani_6[/h] | [h=4]0.4[/h] |
[h=4]Amerindian_Chachapoya[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Armenia_RISE407[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Hungary_BR1[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Hungary_RISE484[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Karasuk_RISE492[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Karasuk_RISE499[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Levant_I0867[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Portugal_ERR1524174[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Portugal_MonteGato_104[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Unetice_Germany_I0803[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]BA_Unetice_Germany__I0115[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Baiuvarii_Germanic_AED_106[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Baiuvarii_Germanic_AED_249[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Baiuvarii_Germanic_ALH_10[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Baiuvarii_Germanic_BIM_37[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Baiuvarii_Germanic_STR_241[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE567[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0112[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany_I0806[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Bell_Beaker_Germany_RISE563_[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]C1_Nepal_Chokhopani_2700BP[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Armenia_I1409[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_1280[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iberia_I1314[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Iran_I1674[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CHL_Yamnaya_Samara_I0444[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CL151_Longobard[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CL23_north-Italian[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CL31_Greek_Balkan[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CL83_Celto-Longobard[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CL87_Longobard[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CWC_Denmark_RISE61[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CWC_Germany_I0104[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]CWC_Germany_I0111[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]DA111_Hallstatt-Bylany|_800BC[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]DA119_Germanic_chieftain_Poprad[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]DA222_Karluk[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]DA_205_Kazakhstan_Karakhanid[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EBA_Russia_RISE555[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Balkan_AED_1135[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Hinxton2_Anglosaxon[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Hinxton3_Anglosaxon[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EMA_Hinxton5_Anglosaxon[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EN_Ballinahatty_Ireland_[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EN_Iberia_I0409[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]EN_Iberia_I0411_I041[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]I10851_medieval_Catalonia[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]I2298_published_Tanzania_Pemba_600BP[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Britain_York_6DRIF3[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Sarmatian_PR9_I0574_Pokrovka[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Scythian_I0247b[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Wielbark_Kow_22_PL[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]IA_Wielbark_Kow_45_PL[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]LBA_Armenia_RISE397[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]MA2198_Anatolia_IA[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]MBA_ATP2_Iberia[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]MBA_ATP9_Iberia[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]MBA_Armenia_RISE416[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]MBA_Armenia_RISE423[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]N_Hungary_CO1[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Natufian__1072[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Niederstotzingen_Alemmani_9[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]SZ15_Longobard[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]SZ1_Greek-Balkan[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]SZ30_Celtic[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]SZ3_Longobard[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]TAF009_Iberomaurasian[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
[h=4]Visigoth_I12163[/h] | [h=4]0.2[/h] |
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