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Duarte · Dec 12, 2020

EBA Mokrin and their ancient matches. My Deep Dive Mokrin matches:

Duarte said:
EBA Mokrin and modern populations

Jovialis · Dec 12, 2020

Salento said:
SZ1 got 17 Centuries younger, ... and a new name:

... this changes everything, ... so many posts and assumptions all based on a mistaken identity etrified:

Mytrueancestry is wrong, because the supplementary information of the study it is from, confirms that SZ1 is a Bronze Age sample.

Jovialis · Dec 12, 2020

This makes me wonder. I think they need to cross check their data base, because I think my samples list is wrong. Every other calculator puts me much closer to samples that MTA puts me way off from.

Palermo Trapani · Dec 12, 2020

Jovialis said:
This makes me wonder. I think they need to cross check their data base, because I think my samples list is wrong. Every other calculator puts me much closer to samples that MTA puts me way off from.

Jovialis: Do you know what is the calculator Mytrueancestry is using. Or do they have their own. I like you get closer distances on some samples that MTA has me further away from even though for example many of the same samples that show up in my top 100 in MTA show up in my top 100 using Dodecad various calculators, MDLP or even Eurogenes K13/K15.

Salento · Dec 12, 2020

Jovialis said:
This makes me wonder. I think they need to cross check their data base, because I think my samples list is wrong. Every other calculator puts me much closer to samples that MTA puts me way off from.

... agree, ... also some of the ancient kits I uploaded don’t quite match their own kits, ... but I don’t know for sure which one is better.

Jovialis · Dec 12, 2020

Palermo Trapani said:
Jovialis: Do you know what is the calculator Mytrueancestry is using. Or do they have their own. I like you get closer distances on some samples that MTA has me further away from even though for example many of the same samples that show up in my top 100 in MTA show up in my top 100 using Dodecad various calculators, MDLP or even Eurogenes K13/K15.

It seems to be close to Eurogenes, but I think it is their own version. However, despite the calculator, if they are not labeling the samples correctly, there is a major issue they should fix. Maybe SZ1 is an isolated incident. idk

Duarte · Dec 12, 2020

Modern populations distances are much similar to Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet. See my modern results in both calculators:

MTA
[h=3]Your closest genetic modern populations...[/h]
Info [FONT=&quot][/FONT]
1. Portuguese (6.307)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (7.061)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.266)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (7.592)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.609)
6. Spanish_Murcia (7.860)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.977)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.082)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Duarte[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]6.26967304[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE000, align: right"]7.00658976[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]7.37605586[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]7.63178223[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]7.68158838[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]7.77076573[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]7.99125772[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9A00, align: right"]8.72978808[/TD]
[TD]FRA_Septimania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]9.06899112[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8500, align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Palermo Trapani · Dec 12, 2020

Jovialis said:
It seems to be close to Eurogenes, but I think it is their own version. However, despite the calculator, if they are not labeling the samples correctly, there is a major issue they should fix. Maybe SZ1 is an isolated incident. idk

Jovialis: Ok, thanks. I agree, they need to do a review to ensure the samples are labeled correctly. Hopefully SZ1 is the only one not labeled correctly.

Palermo Trapani · Dec 12, 2020

Duarte said:
Modern populations distances are much similar to Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet. See my modern results in both calculators:

MTA
Your closest genetic modern populations...

Info
1. Portuguese (6.307)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (7.061)
3. Spanish_Galicia (7.266)
4. Spanish_Cantabria (7.592)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.609)
6. Spanish_Murcia (7.860)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.977)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (9.082)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Duarte[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFE00, align: right"]6.26967304[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE000, align: right"]7.00658976[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD100, align: right"]7.37605586[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]7.63178223[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]7.68158838[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]7.77076573[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]7.99125772[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9A00, align: right"]8.72978808[/TD]
[TD]FRA_Septimania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8C00, align: right"]9.06899112[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8500, align: right"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Duarte: Nice work. Thanks

Carlos · Dec 12, 2020

Well I don't understand much about all this genetics stuff but I've heard out there that there are samples that under the label of Latinos are actually Etruscans and many other samples under various labels that are actually Logombards, I don't know if it's true or not, but that's what they say out there.

Carlos · Dec 12, 2020

MTA

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.258)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.723)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.458)
4. Southwest_French (8.469)
5. Spanish_Aragon (8.66)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (9.217)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (9.510)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (9.892)

k15

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Carlos[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFD00, align: right"]6.28936404[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC100, align: right"]7.76821086[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA400, align: right"]8.48681330[/TD]
[TD]Southwest_French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]8.50177628[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9B00, align: right"]8.69507907[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8400, align: right"]9.26335252[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7800, align: right"]9.56104597[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]9.94264049[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]9.96101902[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]10.08261375[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5E00, align: right"]10.18418873[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4000, align: right"]10.92309022[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0059, align: right"]14.68223416[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0081, align: right"]15.65960089[/TD]
[TD]French_Basque[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0092, align: right"]16.06824508[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F200FF, align: right"]19.05653956[/TD]
[TD]South_Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8600FF, align: right"]21.71067710[/TD]
[TD]Southwest_English[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5500FF, align: right"]22.90593809[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4C00FF, align: right"]23.14467109[/TD]
[TD]West_German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #3F00FF, align: right"]23.45287402[/TD]
[TD]Southeast_English[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.09139095[/TD]
[TD]Austrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.18253363[/TD]
[TD]East_German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.37154114[/TD]
[TD]North_German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.39016739[/TD]
[TD]Irish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.86003094[/TD]
[TD]Serbian
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

A small jump between Castile and Leon and Southwest France but let's see if you understand me.
Now with the cursor I can not select what I want to copy the whole block by default.

K13
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Carlos[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F5FF00, align: right"]5.99357156[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]6.65038345[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]7.07265862[/TD]
[TD]Southwest_French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]7.98839158[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB400, align: right"]8.09111241[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]8.12444460[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB000, align: right"]8.17633781[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA600, align: right"]8.41938240[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA600, align: right"]8.42352064[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8600, align: right"]9.21772749[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8500, align: right"]9.24409541[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7700, align: right"]9.59140761[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0018, align: right"]13.08031727[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0093, align: right"]16.10858777[/TD]
[TD]French_Basque[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A0, align: right"]16.42111141[/TD]
[TD]North_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00FE, align: right"]18.71481232[/TD]
[TD]South_Dutch[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E200FF, align: right"]19.45701159[/TD]
[TD]West_German[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7000FF, align: right"]22.24301688[/TD]
[TD]Southwest_English[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #5A00FF, align: right"]22.79234740[/TD]
[TD]Southeast_English[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #4200FF, align: right"]23.37091141[/TD]
[TD]Tuscan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0300FF, align: right"]24.91886233[/TD]
[TD]Orcadian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.11564652[/TD]
[TD]Austrian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.44782898[/TD]
[TD]Irish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]25.49558393[/TD]
[TD]West_Scottish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]26.67815211[/TD]
[TD]North_Dutch
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

G25
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Carlos_scaled[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #66FF00, align: right"]0.02008536[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6FFF00, align: right"]0.02180489[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #72FF00, align: right"]0.02231244[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #74FF00, align: right"]0.02269035[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #76FF00, align: right"]0.02312202[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7FFF00, align: right"]0.02489288[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7FFF00, align: right"]0.02490052[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Menorca[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #81FF00, align: right"]0.02522834[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #82FF00, align: right"]0.02553041[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #84FF00, align: right"]0.02585001[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #85FF00, align: right"]0.02603826[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]0.02618920[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Eivissa[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]0.02618944[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Alacant[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #86FF00, align: right"]0.02619990[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Pirineu[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8AFF00, align: right"]0.02712183[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Lleida[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8BFF00, align: right"]0.02722912[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Baleares[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8EFF00, align: right"]0.02793500[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8FFF00, align: right"]0.02795867[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #90FF00, align: right"]0.02815267[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #91FF00, align: right"]0.02842729[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castello[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #91FF00, align: right"]0.02852608[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Barcelones[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #92FF00, align: right"]0.02860053[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Mallorca[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #94FF00, align: right"]0.02901544[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Penedes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #94FF00, align: right"]0.02905788[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Peri-Barcelona[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #95FF00, align: right"]0.02921315[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Girona
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

And here the homogeneity is bestial, we are one,

Duarte · Dec 12, 2020

Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet has a little bit different populations and distances when compared to K15 and MTA

Mine

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Duarte[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]5.85985495[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Extremadura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1FF00, align: right"]5.90686888[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Andalucia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6FF00, align: right"]6.03160012[/TD]
[TD]Spanish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF900, align: right"]6.40790137[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]6.60645896[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Murcia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE900, align: right"]6.78030235[/TD]
[TD]Portuguese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE500, align: right"]6.88743784[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE400, align: right"]6.90646074[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Galicia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]6.93357772[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Valencia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD800, align: right"]7.19974305[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cantabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]7.83324964[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Cataluna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9F00, align: right"]8.59401536[/TD]
[TD]Spanish_Aragon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8700, align: right"]9.19530859[/TD]
[TD]FRA_Septimania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7700, align: right"]9.58162304[/TD]
[TD]Southwest_French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3200, align: right"]11.26589544[/TD]
[TD]Swiss-Italian2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0F00, align: right"]12.12645043[/TD]
[TD]IT_Orobia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0C00, align: right"]12.21640700[/TD]
[TD]IT_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0700, align: right"]12.33157735[/TD]
[TD]IT_Aosta_Valley[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]12.52173311[/TD]
[TD]FRA_Provence[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0001, align: right"]12.53558934[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0008, align: right"]12.69648770[/TD]
[TD]IT_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF000B, align: right"]12.77490509[/TD]
[TD]IT_Insubria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0012, align: right"]12.94127892[/TD]
[TD]French[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003B, align: right"]13.94228819[/TD]
[TD]IT_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF003B, align: right"]13.94905015[/TD]
[TD]IT_Trentino[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Carlos · Dec 12, 2020

I will carry out a uniparental introspection based on the mitochondrial haplogroup to support a multidisciplinary logistics based on the correlation of old data to see if I see something.

Salento · Dec 12, 2020

Dark Ages top 10
(Bronze Age SZ1 made the list), lol

Duarte · Dec 12, 2020

Salento said:
Dark Ages top 10
(Bronze Age SZ1 made the list), lol

I believe they were betrayed for not verifying that SZ1 sample is from a period much earlier than that of all other samples. OMG!

[h=3]“Two longobard-associated cemeteries[/h]We performed a deep genomic characterization of individuals buried in two cemeteries of the sixth to seventh centuries CE that have material culture associated with the Longobards. Both are considered key sites with regard to the proposed migration from Pannonia to Italy. The first cemetery, Szólád, is located in present-day Hungary (Supplementary Figure 1). There are 45 graves (Fig. 1b), all of which are dated to the middle third of the sixth century based on a combination of stylistic elements of the grave goods and radiocarbon (2-sigma range of 412–604 CE, Supplementary Table 1) analysis14. Archeological, stable isotope, and mtDNA (HVS-1) analyses suggested that Szólád was occupied for only ~20/30 years by a mobile group of Longobard-era settlers14. The female to male ratio (sexing being based primarily on genetic data, or in its absence, anatomy) is 0.65. Graves in this cemetery are organized such that a core group (N = 18), mostly of male individuals, is surrounded by a half-ring of females (N = 11) (Supplementary Figure 2). Most of these individuals lie in elaborate graves with ledge walls and wooden chambers all in the same orientation, furnished with numerous artifacts such as beads, pottery, swords, and shields. The remaining 16 Longobard-period graves are more diverse in relation to the sex of the individuals, as well as to the quality of grave construction and richness of artifacts. Archeologists also recovered two bodies (AV1, AV2) that derive from a later occupation of the region by the Avars in the fill of the Longobard-period grave (SZ27)15, as well the skeletal remains from an individual dating to the Bronze Age 10 m north of the cemetery (SZ1). See Supplementary Note 1, Supplementary Figures 1–11, and Supplementary Table 1 for the archeological context of Szólád.”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4

Jovialis · Dec 12, 2020

MTA says the Roopkund Lake traveler I3350 is closest to me, he is my #1 match. However, Dodecad Globe 13 indicates I am pretty distant:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Jovialis[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A7FF00, align: right"]4.08227878[/TD]
[TD]I3403:É_Harney_et_al._2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]5.32357023[/TD]
[TD]I3404:É_Harney_et_al._2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]6.43343610[/TD]
[TD]I6937:É_Harney_et_al._2019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]8.52763742[/TD]
[TD]I3350:É_Harney_et_al._2019
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Salento · Dec 13, 2020

@Jovialis that’s also my top match for now, ... was R1548, ...

Jovialis · Dec 13, 2020

Salento said:
@Jovialis that’s also my top match for now, ... was R1548, ...

R1548 was also mine, and it is also a sample that is considerably distant from both of us. Both of those samples are "south" of south Italians, and pulled further to the east. I think there must be something wrong here, because it doesn't make sense.

Jovialis · Dec 13, 2020

This is not a good fit, especially since there are many more samples which are much closer to me.

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Jovialis[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3300, align: right"]11.26066161[/TD]
[TD]R1548

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Jovialis · Dec 13, 2020

FWIW, since MTA is closest to Eurogene K15, not even that calculator puts me close to R1548:

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Jovialis[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C2FF00, align: right"]4.75335671[/TD]
[TD]R65_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]5.51492520[/TD]
[TD]R136_Imperial_Era_Marcellino_&_Pietro[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F8FF00, align: right"]6.08097032[/TD]
[TD]R1544_Imperial_Era_Necropolis_of_Monte_Agnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]6.09821285[/TD]
[TD]R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFC00, align: right"]6.32203290[/TD]
[TD]R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]6.38034482[/TD]
[TD]R47_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF800, align: right"]6.40971918[/TD]
[TD]R436_Imperial_Era_Palestrina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF300, align: right"]6.54137600[/TD]
[TD]R54_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]6.57746152[/TD]
[TD]R58_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE700, align: right"]6.83912275[/TD]
[TD]R835_Imperial_Era_Civitanova_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE400, align: right"]6.90821974[/TD]
[TD]R1290_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC300, align: right"]7.72365846[/TD]
[TD]R64_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBB00, align: right"]7.92461356[/TD]
[TD]R1548_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAE00, align: right"]8.22504711[/TD]
[TD]R1549_Imperial_Era_Monterotondo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAA00, align: right"]8.34279929[/TD]
[TD]R49_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA600, align: right"]8.42568098[/TD]
[TD]R970_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA300, align: right"]8.51677169[/TD]
[TD]R60_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9E00, align: right"]8.62258082[/TD]
[TD]R57_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]8.88838568[/TD]
[TD]R51_Imperial_Era_Centocelle_Necropolis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9300, align: right"]8.90012359[/TD]
[TD]R973_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]8.90951738[/TD]
[TD]R53_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8500, align: right"]9.22901945[/TD]
[TD]R969_Medieval_Era_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7E00, align: right"]9.41190735[/TD]
[TD]R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7D00, align: right"]9.43142619[/TD]
[TD]R35_Late_Antiquity_Celio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7B00, align: right"]9.47611207[/TD]
[TD]R59_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

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