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When the article is right then the Tarim mummies are in fact an ANE offshoot either form Bronze or Iron Age. I see no direct relationship with Andronovo.
When the Tarin Mummies are in fact 'pure' ANE and nowadays Udmurts have the highest ANE ancestry amount and the highest percentage red heads, a relationship between genes for red hair c.q. some MCR1 variants, and ANE ancestry is not unimaginable!
The Tarim Mummies aren't a people but a natural phenomenon. If you would die in the tarim desert you would probably end up becoming a "tarim mummy". I´ve read the paper about the tarim mummies when it was published, they (TarimEBA) are like ~70% ANE + ~30% Northeastasian, so not pure ANE but very close to it. They resemble WSHGs further west. The mummies are dated to 2000 BC-400 AD and they possibly come from totally different populations, the earliest ones native non-IE, later Iranian and maybe also Tocharians. Just to name few Iranian peoples that lived there: Wusun, Saka and maybe Yuezhi. You can't just lump all together, there needs to be a case by case approach. Again, many mummies aren't even light haired but dark haired anyway. When talking about red hair in the tarim basin, you're probably thinking about the buddhist monk fresco from the 9th-century AD from the Bezeklik Caves near Turfan. That's way later when the oldest mummies and definitely a different populations from TarimEBA.
Also, you can't use modern populations like the Udmurts or any other to investigate the origin, they're too mixed. Indians have very high ANE ancestry or Iranians or Kets from Siberia. I am like 19% ANE in various calculators, that's above the average for modern Germans. Red hair in Udmurts is probably the result of a founder effect and/or selection.
Especially with R160W aka Arg160Trp with SNP rs1805008 has for sure a relationship with the steppe and in the end ANE?
But it's not the only MCR1 variant, this is an old one from 23andme:
Just an educated guess but- seen neolithic France- could D294H have a relationship with this?
The same SNP(rs1805008) pops up in Neolithic France, too (Supplementary Table 15). I can think of two possibilities: Independent origin from one another or European farmers>Yamnaya.
Actually, I came back to this topic because of this video: