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tribes in UK
01: Caledones
02: Taexali
03: Carvetii
04: Venicones
05: Epidii
06: Damnonii
07: Novantae
08: Selgovae
09: Votadini
10: Brigantes
11: Parisi
12: Cornovii
13: Deceangli
14: Ordovices
15: Corieltauvi
16: Iceni
17: Demetae
18: Catuvellauni
19: Silures
20: Dubunni
21: Dumnonii
22: Durotriges
23: Belgae
24: Atrebates
25: Regni
26: Cantiaci
27: Trinovantes
yes, one of three UK I2a2-DIsles samples from familytreedna (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...x?section=ymap ) project falls in Scotland and there is one in northeast Ireland as well. I believe they were spread by same proto-tribe
the name Scotland might be related to Scythians... not just linguistic similarity, but also mythology and genetics of R1a and I2a2 points out to it...
to compare Serbs and Croats have very dominant I2a2 haplogroup and significant R1a (higher in Croats)...
the branch of I2a2 dominant among Serbs and Croats, and significant among other Slavic nations and absent in UK is named I2a2-Dinaric...
I2a2-DIsles branch is called DIsles because it appears in both East Europe and in British Isles, unlike I2a2-Isles that is so far discovered only in UK... I2a2-DIsles in UK seems to be related to Scotland and northeast Ireland...
We know that Scythians are R1a carriers... this is indicated by ancient DNA of Scythian warriors...
but as a brief proof of that look at the pretty good match of Indo-Scythians with the spread of R1a
http://sites.google.com/site/thelineagesofasia/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians
unlike the rest of UK and Ireland there is R1a in Scotland and northeast Ireland...
I would say that presence of R1a indicates that legend of Scythian origin is likely to be correct...
let's go further into legend of Scythian origin of Scotish people
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/arbroath_english.html
from the Declaration of Arbroath:
let's focus on stay in Iberian peninsula...
if we look at tribes in Iberia...
at 300 BC there is still a tribe Caladuni there (this is tribal name obviously identical to Caledonii in Scotland)
click on link bellow to zoom the map...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Iberia_300BC.svg
in fact, next to Caladuni is tribe Seurbi, and nearby is also a tribe named Helleni
the whole area is painted as partly Celtic, partly pre-Celtic proto-IndoEuropean
anyway, according to legend Scythians first settled in Iberia (which we proved by tracing tribal name Caladuni there) and than settled in Scotland after beating Brittons and destroying Picts... I would say after defeating Picts proto-Scotish tribe of Caledonians probably settled among Picts, which is why I guess they were later also referred to as Picts... I think that initially Picts were subdued and Scythians were ruling elite, and that later names Pict and Scotish mixed up as boundaries between two merged ethnic groups disappeared......
look at the map representing 3 different ethnic groups in uk and ireland in the mid-5th century AD, between the Roman departure and the founding of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms.
green - Mainly Goidelic areas.
blue - Mainly Pictish areas.
red - Mainly Brythonic areas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaels
If you look at distribution of Gaelic languages in Scotland, you can see that Picts were not the carriers of that language, though some of them might have been assimilated into it...thus they were not celtic tribe originally but were partly celticized...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaels
Picts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts
R1a in Ireland matches position of Cruithin and Darini
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darini
later in those areas as tribal name appears Ulaids and even later area is named Ulster
and I2a2DIsles sample in Ireland from familytreedna is from same area...
Darini seems to have been very warlike people...
Perhaps, Darini are counterpart of Greek Dorians who gave Spartans and Macedonians, and who, as it seems, have also had dominant R1a and some I2a2
in fact, Caledonii in Scotland and Caladuni in Iberia, while Dorian Greek settlements are Lacedaemon on Peloponnese (Sparta) and Macedon in ancient Macedonia, and all seems to have same origin, same as Ireland Darini and Greek Dorian tribal names are related...it is not just linguistic connection but also connection by common genetic origin - haplogroups R1a and I2a2....
note also that I2a2 in Greece is also strongest in Dorian settled areas of Peloponese and ancient Macedonia... I would expect some or dominant DIsles among the I2a2 found there... btw. look also again at R1a distribution... R1a in area of antic Macedonia is much stronger than among south Slavic nations north of it (FYRM, Bulgaria, Serbia...)
anyway, we can clearly see that mix of R1a and I2a2 is not recent... that it existed among Scythians long time ago...before a tribe from Scythia departed to Spain and from there to Scotland and northeast Ireland...

01: Caledones
02: Taexali
03: Carvetii
04: Venicones
05: Epidii
06: Damnonii
07: Novantae
08: Selgovae
09: Votadini
10: Brigantes
11: Parisi
12: Cornovii
13: Deceangli
14: Ordovices
15: Corieltauvi
16: Iceni
17: Demetae
18: Catuvellauni
19: Silures
20: Dubunni
21: Dumnonii
22: Durotriges
23: Belgae
24: Atrebates
25: Regni
26: Cantiaci
27: Trinovantes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CaledoniaCaledonia is the Latin name given by the Romans to the land in today's Scotland north of their province of Britannia, beyond the frontier of their empire. Modern use is as a romantic or poetic name for Scotland as a whole.
Original usage
The original use of the name, by Tacitus, Ptolemy, Lucan and Pliny the Elder, referred to the area (or parts of the area) also known as Pictavia or Pictland north of the Antonine Wall in today's Scotland.[1] The name may be related to that of a Pictish tribe, the Caledonii, one amongst several in the area, though perhaps the dominant tribe which would explain the binomial Caledonia/Caledonii. Their name can be found in Dùn Chailleann, the Scottish Gaelic word for the town of Dunkeld meaning "fort of the Caledonii", and in that of the mountain Sìdh Chailleann or Schiehallion, the "fairy [hill] of the Caledonians". According to Historia Brittonum the site of the seventh battle of the mythical Arthur was a forest in what is now Scotland, called Coit Celidon in early Welsh. Traces of such mythology have endured until today in Midlothian: near the town centre of Edinburgh stands an old volcanic mountain called Arthur's Seat.[2]
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361823&postcount=65I see the absence of I2a2a-Dinaric in Britain as further evidence that the Slavic migrations carried the eastern form. However, there is a relatively rare form of I2a2a called I2a2a-Disles [halfway between Isles and Dinaric] which leans slightly towards I2a2a-Dinaric, and is found mainly in Scotland. This is a bit of an enigma. Jean Manco in 'The Peopling of Europe' suggested that I2a2a-Disles came to Britain via Yamnaya bands.
yes, one of three UK I2a2-DIsles samples from familytreedna (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...x?section=ymap ) project falls in Scotland and there is one in northeast Ireland as well. I believe they were spread by same proto-tribe
the name Scotland might be related to Scythians... not just linguistic similarity, but also mythology and genetics of R1a and I2a2 points out to it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScythiansSome legends of the Picts; the Gaels; the Hungarians; Serbs and Croats (among others) also include mention of Scythian origins. In the second paragraph of the 1320 Declaration of Arbroath the élite of Scotland claim Scythia as a former homeland of the Scots.
to compare Serbs and Croats have very dominant I2a2 haplogroup and significant R1a (higher in Croats)...
the branch of I2a2 dominant among Serbs and Croats, and significant among other Slavic nations and absent in UK is named I2a2-Dinaric...
I2a2-DIsles branch is called DIsles because it appears in both East Europe and in British Isles, unlike I2a2-Isles that is so far discovered only in UK... I2a2-DIsles in UK seems to be related to Scotland and northeast Ireland...
We know that Scythians are R1a carriers... this is indicated by ancient DNA of Scythian warriors...
but as a brief proof of that look at the pretty good match of Indo-Scythians with the spread of R1a

http://sites.google.com/site/thelineagesofasia/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians
unlike the rest of UK and Ireland there is R1a in Scotland and northeast Ireland...

I would say that presence of R1a indicates that legend of Scythian origin is likely to be correct...
let's go further into legend of Scythian origin of Scotish people
The Declaration of Arbroath is a declaration of Scottish independence, made in 1320. It is in the form of a letter submitted to Pope John XXII, dated 6 April 1320, intended to confirm Scotland's status as an independent, sovereign state and defending Scotland's right to use military action when unjustly attacked.
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/arbroath_english.html
from the Declaration of Arbroath:
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/arbroath_english.htmlMost Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner.
let's focus on stay in Iberian peninsula...
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/arbroath_english.htmlThey journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous.
if we look at tribes in Iberia...
at 300 BC there is still a tribe Caladuni there (this is tribal name obviously identical to Caledonii in Scotland)

click on link bellow to zoom the map...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Iberia_300BC.svg
in fact, next to Caladuni is tribe Seurbi, and nearby is also a tribe named Helleni
the whole area is painted as partly Celtic, partly pre-Celtic proto-IndoEuropean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeurbiThe Seurbi were an ancient Celtic tribe of Gallaecia, living in the north of modern Portugal, in the province of Minho, between the rivers Cávado and Lima (or even reaching the river Minho).
anyway, according to legend Scythians first settled in Iberia (which we proved by tracing tribal name Caladuni there) and than settled in Scotland after beating Brittons and destroying Picts... I would say after defeating Picts proto-Scotish tribe of Caledonians probably settled among Picts, which is why I guess they were later also referred to as Picts... I think that initially Picts were subdued and Scythians were ruling elite, and that later names Pict and Scotish mixed up as boundaries between two merged ethnic groups disappeared......
look at the map representing 3 different ethnic groups in uk and ireland in the mid-5th century AD, between the Roman departure and the founding of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms.
green - Mainly Goidelic areas.
blue - Mainly Pictish areas.
red - Mainly Brythonic areas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaels
If you look at distribution of Gaelic languages in Scotland, you can see that Picts were not the carriers of that language, though some of them might have been assimilated into it...thus they were not celtic tribe originally but were partly celticized...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaels
Picts
The Picts were a confederation of Celtic tribes living in what was later to become eastern and northern Scotland from before the Roman conquest of Britain until the 10th century, when they merged with the Gaels. They lived to the north of the Forth and Clyde rivers, and spoke the extinct Pictish language, thought to have been related to the Brythonic languages spoken by the Britons to the south. They are assumed to have been the descendants of the Caledonii and other tribes named by Roman historians or found on the world map of Ptolemy.
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In writings from Ireland, the name Cruthin, Cruthini, Cruthni, Cruithni or Cruithini (Modern Irish: Cruithne) was used to refer to the Picts and to a group of people who lived alongside the Ulaid in eastern Ulster.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts
R1a in Ireland matches position of Cruithin and Darini
later in those areas as tribal name appears Ulaids and even later area is named Ulster

and I2a2DIsles sample in Ireland from familytreedna is from same area...
Darini seems to have been very warlike people...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DariniThe cognate Dari(o) ("agitation, tumult, rage") is a form widely attested in the Gaulish language, especially in personal names.[4] An example from the Welsh language is cynddaredd ("rage"). Thus the Darini may have been considered a people "of great violence", or descendants of a "God of Tumult".
Perhaps, Darini are counterpart of Greek Dorians who gave Spartans and Macedonians, and who, as it seems, have also had dominant R1a and some I2a2
in fact, Caledonii in Scotland and Caladuni in Iberia, while Dorian Greek settlements are Lacedaemon on Peloponnese (Sparta) and Macedon in ancient Macedonia, and all seems to have same origin, same as Ireland Darini and Greek Dorian tribal names are related...it is not just linguistic connection but also connection by common genetic origin - haplogroups R1a and I2a2....
note also that I2a2 in Greece is also strongest in Dorian settled areas of Peloponese and ancient Macedonia... I would expect some or dominant DIsles among the I2a2 found there... btw. look also again at R1a distribution... R1a in area of antic Macedonia is much stronger than among south Slavic nations north of it (FYRM, Bulgaria, Serbia...)
anyway, we can clearly see that mix of R1a and I2a2 is not recent... that it existed among Scythians long time ago...before a tribe from Scythia departed to Spain and from there to Scotland and northeast Ireland...