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SortOf said:Chances are the victom was guilty of sin to begin with.
Now I know for sure that you are just trolling here. Bye Bye:angryfire
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SortOf said:Chances are the victom was guilty of sin to begin with.
SortOf said:Im not trolling im truthfully stating my opinion, however unpopular it may be. Thats the problem with todays society, unwillingness to accept eccentic opinions. You may call me a troll, but im not, I 100% support everything I have said and would sign my name to it if needed.
andAn "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion.
andtroll is trying to make us believe that he is a skeptic. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him.
Tokis-Phoenix said:I agree with KrazyKat, your opinions/views SortOf are very narrow-minded/arrogant and ignorant, aside from being from being offensive. Its not that i believe they are wrong(which i do, but anyways..), but i do not think you have thought them out well and thoroughly enough- they have many flaws from almost any veiwpoint you at them from.
KrazyKat said:"Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. Only religion can make Good people do bad things."
Exactly, murder is usually done by people who aren't psychologically stable.Hachiro said:[_ _ _]
Think about this is, murder an act of a sane person?
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yidaki said:Considering how society wants to sanction child molestation and murderers,they are equal in severity and should go to the same place;
which imho is an institution for the criminally insane.
Sending insane people to prison is useless,they won't learn anything by it,
and it would make it ok to send children to prisons aswell.
With who? Children who commit crimes?Hachiro said:Then what would you do with them?
Clawn said:KrazyKat, first off, I must disagree with you on that point. Greed, passion, lust, anger, stress, etc. can cause even the best of us to do bad things.
hehe, very philosiphical. I like utilitarianism, but I haven't studied enough to be sure of it yet. :blush:Clawn said:As well, we must remember that "good" and "bad" mean different things to different people.
I think criminals need help, not punishment, although the presence of a deterrent is also necessary.
yidaki said:......Sane people don't go to asylums.
So when an insane person is corrected to fit the standard of society, he gets out. That's why it can be a life sentence, some people just never learn.
Sending a murderer to prison for 15yrs, means that you'll have a murderer coming out of prison in 15yrs. It doesn't help anyone. Child molestors probably have some deep issues to deal with, being molested themselves, seeing it as normal, loving, behaviour. They need help. As do the children ofcourse, so that they don't become traumatised and go out to become sinister adults themselves.
yidaki said:With who? Children who commit crimes?
To a juvenile correction facility,
where they are socialised into society like proper adults.
Insane people usually go to asylums.
Sane people don't go to asylums.
So when an insane person is corrected to fit the standard of society, he gets out. That's why it can be a life sentence, some people just never learn.
Sending a murderer to prison for 15yrs,
means that you'll have a murderer coming out of prison in 15yrs.
It doesn't help anyone.
Child molestors probably have some deep issues to deal with, being molested themselves, seeing it as normal, loving, behaviour. They need help. As do the children ofcourse, so that they don't become traumatised and go out to become sinister adults themselves.
Thats one simple thing, its called the woman lacking common sense, and the man should not be punished for it ever. The woman is to blame for getting the man in that state and to think he is going to stop just because she says to is highly unlikely.Offtopic, but on the rape issue, is a woman ever 'asking for it'? I can certainly envisage a situation in which a woman takes a man to 'the point of no return' then changes her mind, although I doubt that is a common occurrence. I would feel some sympathy for the man in that situation - although after the fact any decent man would be racked with guilt and would show remorse.
Prostitutes also operate an illegal business in the states (except in Nevada, and small parts of Texas). And how is it rape honestly? How is someone who goes around having sex and smoking crack every day be consitered equal to anyone else? Yeah the laws say this, and they say that, but an upstanding citized isnt going to get anything but a slap on the hand for raping a prostitute, and she is going to be sent to prison for being a prostitute in the first place, ive seen it happen many times.If a man solicits a prostitute and refuses to pay the fee it is rape and he should face the consequences. Prostitutes provide a good service to men who might otherwise have little chance of fulfilling their desires and they should have every right to earn a living in this way if they so choose. Also, many prostitutes have been forced into the profession (particularly young girls) and we certainly shouldn't condemn them.
Yes all woman have the "right" to dress that way, and the "right" to sleep around, but im definatly not going to feel sorry for a woman who does this as she was tempting fate by doing it in the first place. Its like hoping through a mine field on a pogo stick, your tempting fate.Dressing provocatively doesn't give a man any right to rape a woman - I think most of us like to show a bit of skin in summer, and we have every right to do so. As Hachiro says, men like to go shirtless in summer too, and I don't think I've heard anyone accuse such a man of being provocative.
The same goes for promiscuous women. If a woman chooses to have lots of partners, that's her choice (although I would consider it a dubious one), and doesn't give anyone the right to take that choice away from her.
Tokis-Phoenix said:Paedophiles are not insane, they just have a chemical imbalance that messes up their sex drive and makes them attracted to children- this is not insanity in the same way that being gay is not insanity, its just a sexual imbalance. The key to curing paedophiles i believe is not to send them to an asylum, but to castrate them to take away the sex drive. It probably sounds harsh, but i actually believe it would be a very effective way of getting rid of a paedophiles urge to have sex with children. Having sex with or being attracted to a child for a paedophile is not a psychological factor or type of insanity, its the sex drive gone wrong, which is an urge.
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