K12b Percentage of European & Middle Eastern admixture by ethnic group

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I realised that many people did not have a clear view of the percentage of European ancestry outside Europe. Goga wrongly believed that Armenians had much higher European ancestry than Indian Brahmins, when in fact Brahmins have about three times more European admixture (15% against 5%) if we exclude shared Near Eastern Neolithic ancestry. Even Mongols scored twice higher (10%) than Armenians. I wanted to make a map of European admixture in Asia, but that will prove difficult because of the huge variations between ethnic groups occupying a same territory in many regions, but especially in India due to the caste system. So instead I will list ethnicities by frequency.

I will try two ways of calculating the percentage of European autosomal ancestry:

1) by combining the North European and Atlantic Med components from the Dodecad K12b results. This specifically excludes the Gedrosian, Caucasian and Southwest Asian ancestry that entered the European gene pool from the Middle East from the Copper Age to the Middle Ages, but it includes the DNA of Mesolithic Europeans, Neolithic farmers and Indo-Europeans.

2) by combining the East European and West European components from the Dodecad K12. This admixture is essentially Mesolithic Europeans + Indo-Europeans and excludes Near Eastern Neolithic farmers as well as the Gedrosian part of the Indo-Europeans.

Neither is perfect but they give a pretty good estimation. I have listed a few European populations as references for comparison. I rounded up the percentages to the closest unit as these are approximates anyway.

Obviously modern Europeans are not just the descendants of Mesolithic European, but can have a very sizeable share of Near Eastern ancestry. Aside from Neolithic farmers, that includes the Gedrosian part of Proto- Indo-Europeans, but also the Bronze and Iron Age expansions from the Caucasus (Kura-Araxes and descendants) Anatolia and the Levant to Greece, the Balkans, Italy and Iberia that brought considerable levels of West Asia or Caucasian admixture. The frequencies below look at what is left of the European gene pool from the Mesolithic and Neolithic only, and how much of it was brought outside Europe (mostly by the Indo-European migrations).


1) Dodecad K12b (North European and Atlantic Med) => Mesolithic+Neolithic Europe

- Scandinavians, French Basques, Spanish Basques : 90%
- Lithuanians : 89%
- Finns, Irish : 88%
- British : 87%
- Poles, Dutch : 84%
- Belgians, French, Germans : 81%
- Russians, Ukrainians : 78%
- North/Central Spaniards : 76%
- Hungarians : 75%
- Portuguese, South Spaniards (Andalusia, Extremadura, Murcia) : 70%
- North Italians : 66%
- Romanians : 61%
- Bulgarians : 59%
- Central Italians : 55%
- Greeks : 48%
- Sicilians : 42%
- Ashkenazi Jews : 39%
- Sephardic Jews : 32.5%
- Nogais : 26%
- Cypriots : 25%
- Lezgins : 24%
- Algerians, Chechens, Tajiks : 23%
- Adygei, Moroccans : 22%
- Turks : 21%
- Balkars : 20%
- North Ossetians, Uzebeks : 19%
- Lebanese : 15.5%
- Uttar Pradesh Brahmins, Turkmens, Uyghurs : 15%
- Syrians : 14.5%
- Altaians, Armenians, Pathans : 14%
- Kurds, Jordanians, Burusho (Pakistan), Hazaras : 12%
- Iranians, Assyrians, Kshatriya Indians : 11%
- Mongols : 10%
- Egyptians, Georgians, Hazaras, Iraq Jews : 9%
- Bedouins, Sindhi (Pakistan) : 8.5%
- Tuva (C. Siberia) : 7%
- Indians (non-Brahmin), Balochi (Pakistan) : 6%
- Bengali, Tharus (Nepal) : 5.5%
- Brahui (Pakistan), Yemeni : 5%
- Buryats : 4.5%
- Makrani : 4%
- Saudi : 3.5%
- Yakuts : 1%
- Cambodians : 0.5%
- Ethiopians : 0%

1) Dodecad K12 (East Europe and West Europe) => Mesolithic Europe

- Lithuanians : 93%
- Finns : 87%
- Belorussians : 83%
- Russians : 80%
- Poles : 79%
- Scandinavians : 78%
- Ukrainians : 71%
- Irish, Germans, Mordovians : 70%
- British 68%
- Dutch : 66%
- Hungarians : 65%
- Belgians : 60%
- French : 56%
- French Basque : 53%
- Romanians, Bulgarians : 45%
- Spaniards : 43%
- Portuguese : 41%
- North Italians : 39%
- Tuscans : 33%
- Adygei : 32%
- Morocco Jews : 31.5%
- Sardinians : 30%
- Lezgins : 28%
- Chechens : 27%
- Nogays : 26%
- Tajiks : 25%
- Ashkenazi Jews, Central Italians, Greeks : 24%
- Balkars : 23%
- Kumyks : 22.5%
- Uzbeks : 21%
- Sicilians : 18%
- Altaians : 17%
- Kalash (Pakistan) : 16%
- Turkmens : 15.5%
- South Italians, Hazaras : 15%
- Indians (non-Brahmin) 14.5%
- Balochi (Pakistan), Turks : 12%
- Kurds : 11.5%
- Sephardic Jews, Brahui (Pakistan) : 11%
- Mongols, Makrani : 10%
- Georgians : 9%
- Iranians : 7%
- Yakuts : 6%
- Tunisians/Libyans, Buryats : 5%
- Armenians, Cypriots, Nganassans : 4.5%
- Lebanese, Syrians : 4%
- Saudis, Cambodians : 3.5%
- Druzes : 3%
- Palestinians : 2.5%
- Mozabites (Sahara), Daurs (Inner Mongolia) : 2%
- Bedouins, Jordanians, Yemeni, Oroqen (Inner Mongolia) : 1.5%
- Han Chinese , Egyptians, Moroccans : 0.5%
 
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Here is the list of highest West Asian admixture in Eurasia and Africa.

Dodecad K12b (Caucasian + Gedrosian) => West Asian ancestry

- Georgians : 91%
- Armenians : 75%
- Adygei : 74%
- Balkars, Chechens, Lezgins, North Ossetians : 73%
- Georgia Jews : 71%
- Azerbaijan Jews : 70.5%
- Assyrians, Brahui, Balochi, Kurds : 70%
- Iranians : 68%
- Makrani : 67%
- Iraq Jews : 64.5%
- Druzes : 58.5%
- Pathans, Turkmen : 57%
- Sindhi : 56%
- Cypriots : 55%
- Sephardic Jews : 54.5%
- Burusho, Lebanese, Tajiks : 52%
- Kumyks, Nogais, Syrians, Turks : 50%
- Jordanians : 47.5%
- Palestinians : 45%
- Ashkenazi Jews, Indians, Sicilians : 42%
- Greeks : 40.5%
- Kshatrya Indians : 40%
- Morocco Jews : 39.5%
- Uttar Pradesh Brahmins : 39%
- Bedouins : 36%
- Tharus : 35.5%
- Central Italians/Tuscans : 35%
- Yemeni : 33.5%
- Bulgarians, Egyptians : 33%
- Romanians, Uzbeks : 31.5%
- Hazaras : 30%
- North Italians, Uyghurs : 28.5%
- Saudis : 24%
- North Kannadi (S. India) : 22%
- Sardinians : 21%
- Hungarians : 20%
- Germans, South Spaniards : 17.5%
- Belgians, Mordovians, Ukrainians : 16.5%
- French, Spaniards : 16%
- Portuguese : 15.5%
- Chuvashs, Dutch : 15%
- Belorussians , British : 13.5%
- Algerians, Polish : 12.5%
- Irish : 12%
- Russians : 11%
- French Basques, Lithuanians, Altaians, Mongols : 10%
- Spanish Basques : 9%
- Scandinavians : 8.5%
- Moroccans : 6.5%
- Buryats, Ethiopians, Ethiopian Jews : 5%
- Burmese : 4%
- Finns : 2%
 
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Here is the list of highest West Asian + Southwest Asian admixture in Eurasia and Africa.

Dodecad K12b (Caucasian + Gedrosian + Southwest Asian) => Middle Eastern ancestry

- Saudis : 91.5%
- Georgians : 91%
- Assyrians : 89%
- Azerbaijan Jews, Georgia Jews : 88%
- Armenians : 87%
- Kurds : 84%
- Iraq Jews : 83.5%
- Iranians : 82%
- Brahui, Druzes : 81.5%
- Balochi : 80.5%
- Bedouins : 79%
- Makrani, Syrians : 78%
- Jordanians, Lebanese, Palestinians : 75.5%
- Adygei : 74%
- Lezgins : 74%
- Balkars, Chechens, North Ossetians : 73%
- Cypriots : 72.5%
- Turkmen : 64%
- Egyptians : 63%
- Turks : 60.5%
- Sephardic Jews : 60%
- Sindhi : 59.5%
- Pathans : 57%
- Morocco Jews : 56.5%
- Ashkenazi Jews : 55.5%
- Sicilians : 54%
- Tajiks : 55%
- Kumyks : 53.5%
- Burusho : 52%
- Yemeni : 51%
- Greeks, Nogais : 50.5%
- Central Italians : 45.5%
- Indians : 42.5%
- Tuscans : 41.5%
- Kshatriya Indians : 40%
- Bulgarians, Uttar Pradesh Brahmins : 39%
- Romanians : 37.5%
- Tharus : 35.5%
- North Italians, Uzbeks : 34%
- Ethiopians : 33.5%
- Hazaras : 32.5%
- Ethiopian Jews : 21%
- Uyghurs : 30%
- Algerians: 28.5%
- Sardinians : 27%
- Hungarians : 23%
- North Kannadi, Moroccans, South Spaniards : 22%
- Portuguese, Somali : 20.5%
- Spaniards : 20%
- Ukrainians : 19.5%
- Germans: 19%
- Belgians, French : 18.5%
- Mordovians : 17%
- Belorussians, Chuvashs, Dutch : 15.5%
- Polish : 15%
- British : 13.5%
- Russians : 13%
- Irish : 12%
- Lithuanians : 11.5%
- French/Spanish Basques, Altaians, Mongols : 10%
- Scandinavians : 9%
- Buryats : 5%
- Finns : 4.5%
- Burmese : 4%
 
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are people of india a mix of west asian, australoid with some european? is that what the list is saying?
 
are people of india a mix of west asian, australoid with some european? is that what the list is saying?

Exactly. Eastern Indians and Banglasdeshi also have East Asian admixture.
 
K12b:
European - 48.98
MENA - 47.96

North African - 1.57
South Asian - 1.25
 
If I factor out my Scottish ancestry, I would be 59.94% on West Asia. This puts me with Sephardi Jews (60%). This also means, I would be (54% (Italian) + 54% + 70%) /3 = 59.3%

But how is this possible, how can a Turkish Jew and a Polish Jew mix end up at 70%?

Or does this mean people from Naples cluster with Jews more so than Sicilians?
 
Eh, well looking at that, were Armenians and Turkish Jews leaving Turkey at the same time? Because an Armenian and an Ashkenazim averages perfectly to my mystery mixture.
 
It's an outdated calculator and the component names don't make much sense tbh. Someone would say the North European can be called Central/North Eurasian because it has higher allele frequencies in those regions than many parts of Europe?


I'd also recommend to learn some geography before make a thread about Middle East.
Caucasus is not part of it.
 
^ Everything still to scale though. If the lables are misleading its one thing, but you can still see the relationship between population mixtures.
 
That's not really the case.
For example the Caucasus peaks in North Caucasus and the presence around surrounding regions isn't exclusively in the Middle East but it reaches almost 40% in Ashkenazim, Greeks, Sicilians and above 50% in Cypriots.

While North Indians who score literally nothing Caucasus can have 15-20% North European admixture.
 
Yes, you are complaining about how the population names dont match to the geography. But you can look past that, and see the relationships between all components in the tables from one population to the next. Forget about the geography, and just look at the numbers as abstract.
 
I know very well what you're trying to explain, but Caucasus isn't a Middle Eastern genetic component.

I can't link the picture but the genetic distance from Caucasus is the following:

Caucasus (genetic distance) based on K12b

0.033 Atlantic_Med
0.041 North_European
0.041 Gedrosia
0.047 Southwest_Asian
0.052 Northwest African

For comparison the "North_European" label:

0.041 Caucasus
0.041 Atlantic_Med
0.048 Gedrosia
0.063 Southwest_Asian
0.067 Northwest_African


- Caucasus is more closer to North Europe than to the rest of Near Eastern specific components (Southwest_Asian)

Genetic distance from Atlantic_Med:

0.033 Caucasus
0.041 North_European
0.052 Southwest_Asian
0.056 Northwest_African
0.062 Gedrosia

Atlantic Med, North European and the Caucasus component is equally European like.
 
Yes, you are complaining about how the population names dont match to the geography. But you can look past that, and see the relationships between all components in the tables from one population to the next. Forget about the geography, and just look at the numbers as abstract.

?

how do you look past errors ...............garbage in = garbage out
 
I had no Idea that the Caucus was closer to Northern Europe, than Atlanto Med is.
 
But than Why do Tuscans way cluster closer to Finns than Armenians do? Tuscans have large Med, and Armenians are mostly Caucasian. So they should be closer to Northern Europe.
 
I had no Idea that the Caucus was closer to Northern Europe, than Atlanto Med is.

Northern European on Dodecad peaks in Lithuanians, it's significantly lower in all the Northern Germanic people, including Scandinavians, and it's more a mix of Atlantic and Baltic component than a true Northern European component. Northern European on Dodecad is very similar to a Balto-Slavic as well. Atlantic-Med also tends to absorbe Northern European, especially the NE that peaks in North-Western Europeans. In fact on Dodedad K12b Dutch, Germans, British, Swedish and Norvegians score high Atlanto-Med. On the other hand, Atlanto-Med decreases with Polish, Russians, and in Southern Europe Greeks are those who have less Atlantic-Med.

Unfortunately most of the calculators (Eurogenes, MDLP, Dodecad...) tend to reflect the vision of those who created them.

But than Why do Tuscans way cluster closer to Finns than Armenians do? Tuscans have large Med, and Armenians are mostly Caucasian. So they should be closer to Northern Europe.

Atlantic Med isn't a Med component only, it's likely a mix of HG (WHG?) and EEF.
 
But than Why do Tuscans way cluster closer to Finns than Armenians do? Tuscans have large Med, and Armenians are mostly Caucasian. So they should be closer to Northern Europe.

Armenians have significant portions of Southwest Asian, Gedrosian component along Caucasus. An ethnic group of 100% Caucasus ancestry (which is non existent) would be closer to most Europeans than compared to Near Eastern groups because this component shares the same ancestral links with other Europeans.

Tuscans have 25-30% North European ancestry which makes them closer to North Europe than Armenians still both these groups are more closely related than to Finns. - Armenians and Italians have large portions of Early Neolithic Farmer, CHG ancestry.
 
Ok, I did not know Atlanto Med has Northern Euro in it already, on top of the Northern European component.
 

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