Politics Pro-EU or Anti-EU

Piro Ilir said:
If we want that EU works, it should be a state akin to USA. These countries whose want to not give their sovereignty to the union, better let them go. It would be better for all. EU need to be a real state.
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well, first of all let the European government be elected then like the federal government is in the US

now the EU government members are appointed by the political parties
most of them are semi-retired politicians who are getting an overpaid pension by residing in the EU government for a couple of years
they like to make big speeches but they have no acountability at all for what they say or do

the whole system should be reformed, but the politicians won't do that, it is to favourable for themseves as it is now
 
I think that European Union idea was hijacked by former Euro-'Conmunists' who were disappointed the way Soviet Union turned out. Euro-commune builders wanted 'gentler and softer' version of Lenin and "radical communist of the Communist Party of Germany,Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Nimbus Sans L, Arial, Liberation Sans, sans-serif]". Both versions failed terribly in both countries. Nothing came out of Weimar experiment also. The idea of Europeans living with Europeans in peace is great. We all know who was the biggest 'fan' of that idea-Herr Adolph... This why, no matter how the extremist-left tries to impose 'multi-culti'- it will not work, because to work as Pan-European state it has to be a State. That means one culture, one language and one tradition. Now, what tradition created Europe as we know; Europe of 'Vienna miracle' when polish Europeans saved the rest of Europe from the Sultan? Isn't Chistianity? That all uniting idea of 'holly roman empire for every one'. Remember what the last Pope ( the one that won the war with the Soviets) said? He reminded to include in European charter the words about European Christianity, because without it - it's no Europe.
Now we have about to happen breakthrough in robotics. That will eliminate the need for 'uneducated work force' in Europe. Nice, right? So, why do Europe invite in millions 'uneducated workforce' from totally foreign culture? 'Super political post-'communistic' so called elite needs votes to stay in power. It's Brezhnev's era in Soviet Union part two.
Good luck, my dear Europe...[/FONT]
 
Sonnenburg said:
I think that European Union idea was hijacked by former Euro-'Conmunists' who were disappointed the way Soviet Union turned out. Euro-commune builders wanted 'gentler and softer' version of Lenin and "radical communist of the Communist Party of Germany,Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg". Both versions failed terribly in both countries. Nothing came out of Weimar experiment also. The idea of Europeans living with Europeans in peace is great. We all know who was the biggest 'fan' of that idea-Herr Adolph... This why, no matter how the extremist-left tries to impose 'multi-culti'- it will not work, because to work as Pan-European state it has to be a State. That means one culture, one language and one tradition. Now, what tradition created Europe as we know; Europe of 'Vienna miracle' when polish Europeans saved the rest of Europe from the Sultan? Isn't Chistianity? That all uniting idea of 'holly roman empire for every one'. Remember what the last Pope ( the one that won the war with the Soviets) said? He reminded to include in European charter the words about European Christianity, because without it - it's no Europe.
Now we have about to happen breakthrough in robotics. That will eliminate the need for 'uneducated work force' in Europe. Nice, right? So, why do Europe invite in millions 'uneducated workforce' from totally foreign culture? 'Super political post-'communistic' so called elite needs votes to stay in power. It's Brezhnev's era in Soviet Union part two.
Good luck, my dear Europe...
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I can see your dramma. You were borne 1000 years too late. Take your horse and a lance and go on crusade.
 
That may be right, still, there is a saying that no one is born in a wrong time.
 
Piro Ilir said:
If we want that EU works, it should be a state akin to USA. These countries whose want to not give their sovereignty to the union, better let them go. It would be better for all. EU need to be a real state.
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Even if some countries want to give up their culture and betray their history, it won't end well. It will be broken up by separatism. You basically want to create a larger, more advanced, modern, and thus more dangerous Jugoslavija.
 
Mass migration a people to Europe from wider African and Asian areas create big challenges and require new solutions. Experiences show that individual countries cannot solve alone these challenges. EU level is necessary. These days we can read about European border forces. It is right direction, and in this way EU become stronger and more coherent.
 
Garrick said:
Mass migration a people to Europe from wider African and Asian areas create big challenges and require new solutions. Experiences show that individual countries cannot solve alone these challenges. EU level is necessary. These days we can read about European border forces. It is right direction, and in this way EU become stronger and more coherent.
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Exactly. This should be the biggest dialogue all EU countries should be involved in. There has to be a unified front and solution. Immigration should be controlled and in manageable level, otherwise it is a mess, not good for anyone.
I said this 3 years ago when the big problem started, and I stand by it now.
 
The EU needs to centralize itself further in order to become a key player in international geopolitics independent of both Russian and American interests.
 
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