Recognizing ethnicity by the nose.

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By nature of our sense of beauty, the most avarage face, or nose in this case is the most beautiful. Look at this one:

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It is not even a real person but an image generated by averaging of many faces. It is not a very characteristic face, face to remember, yet is extremely balanced and beautiful. It is so average that, you would probably swear that you met person like this in your life.
As with everything on this face, the nose is an average European nose. Not too small or big, not going up or down, not curved in any way. Average but beautiful. Nose like this one could be found all over the Europe and won't tell us much about where it comes from.

However, any deviation from this average can do the trick. Some parts of Europe have noses which are bigger, smaller, going up or down, narrow or wide. These characteristics can point us to a specific region or Europe, or ethnicity with very high likelihood.

Helpful diagram.
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I'm not a phenotypical specialist by any stretch of imaginations, but I would like to present few of my observations, then discover about your observations, maybe find something new and intriguing.
Keep in mind that below pictures are not representations of general populations, especially if you don't like them, but just examples of characteristic noses that could be found there.

Let's have some fun!
 
Butt nose

Sorry for the title of this post, but I couldn't find examples till I typed this into google search.

This one is common in French or Alpine, and maybe Ashkenazi, (according to me :).
I think Depardieu is an extreme example but very characteristic. Nose is sort of wide at the tip with characteristic groove in the middle.
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Swiss movie director:
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Wide base nose.

I find it mostly in north Europe?


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Pointing up nose

NW Europe?
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sloped up, "ski jump nose"

Where is it from? North Europe?
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Hanging columella nose

Where is it most common?
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Big fleshy tip

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Any ideas where it dominates?
 
Narrow nose.

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I don't want to spoil the fun...but:grin:

I really don't think you can very reliably guess ethnicity by nose type. Even when you're looking at the whole package, it can be difficult in some cases. There's a lot of overlap.

Grooved tip-Matteo Renzi-ancestry from Marche and Toscana-:
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His nose is also short and broad, although there's more cartilage than in your English examples.

Short with a wide base-Riccardo Scamarico:
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Convex nose-Francois Hollande
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Long, narrow, bony nose-Alan Cumming:
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Big nostrils

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I don't want to spoil the fun...but:grin:

I really don't think you can very reliably guess ethnicity by nose type. Even when you're looking at the whole package, it can be difficult in some cases. There's a lot of overlap.
It is almost impossible thing to do, most noses contain many of these characteristics and can be found all over Europe. However, it will be interesting in some of these cases to find regions where they persist the most. I'm hoping that in the future we can figure out from genetic code what came from where. We might pinpoint the shape of IE nose from steppes, or nose (not mentioning other features) of first farmers, etc. Or what characteristics just bloomed from bottlenecking in regions in Europe.

It is mostly for fun here, nothing really scientific, if there is fun in discovering some patterns and listen to people's opinions. I might be perfectly wrong in my perceptions.
 
Pointing downward nose.

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Convex nose.

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Flat place on dorsum.

How about this flat place on top of nose ridge?
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Some more examples of the variety in one province of one country: Toscana, Italia

Ed. Now that I think about it, Italy would be the last place to look for clues about origin...too much variety.

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Most downward nose.

Are Serbian and Bosnians with most downward pointing noses?
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I think this picture represents a very characteristic Serbian/Bosnian nose:
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Is it unique enough to possibly represent quick I2-Dinaric expansion in Balkans?
 
interesting,

and my favorite question every time with noises, is him


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or

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a nose typical from Caucas Georgia to Armenia to Kurds to Levant to Balkans to Italy, and maybe Iberia
but not above the Alps, do not know how common in North Italy

could he be of Caucasian, minor Asian, Persian, etc ancestry?





and what about him?

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is this the typical Karelian? or Uralic nose?

is it the same with this one?

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btw,
I believe the strongest point of I2b1 is the mandible, very wide



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You asked my "expert" opinion, here it goes, lol:

interesting,

and my favorite question every time with noises, is him



or

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a nose typical from Caucas Georgia to Armenia to Kurds to Levant to Balkans to Italy, and maybe Iberia
but not above the Alps, do not know how common in North Italy

could he be of Caucasian, minor Asian, Persian, etc ancestry?
Who knows, don't forget that it might be even a much older nose of first farmers.





and what about him?

is this the typical Karelian? or Uralic nose?

Definitely northern type, the ski jump nose. The tip and nostrils are fairly common to NE Europe.
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is it the same with this one?
Hitler's wide base is northern european kind, I guess, but the fairly large nose and its straight profile perhaps more southern/central type.
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Usually a ridge of a nose don't line up with forehead, creating bigger or smaller indentation, a meniscus, at the place they join.
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Some time ago in Greece there were people with a very tall nose bridge, with nose and forehead with almost parallel lines.
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Can this nose be found in Greece today?
 

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