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I understand, but how much English, for example? I was willing to see the proportions, because AncestryDNA did a really good job with N. Italians in this new version. I was wondering if it's that good for others as well. When I find the time I'll search for more results outside Italy.Practically the same. The best representative for German is the South West, Germans which are very North Western get higher English, those very Northern Norwegian and Swedish, the ones to the East get Eastern European and those to the East and South East more often Balkan. The German sample is however wider, so the percentages for EE and Balkan decrease in my opinion rather on Ancestry DNA, while with less smoothing the transition to the North and North West involves higher British and Scandinavian percentages.
As I said, it seems to work just fine for most of North Italians. I''d like to see what Central Europeans and Central Italians are getting.I have very little information about Italians on AncestryDNA, but I guess it should be similar, but probably better differentiated because of the larger samples AncestryDNA seems to have?
R-L2 in Italy must have different stories, indeed, then some of it could have arrived later. But not all.I still think it's a possibility that L2 was spread beyond Italy by the soldiers of Gallia Cisalpina, although it is possible, yes, that it arrived late with Gauls? Although if that's the case we have to deal with the low percentages in Genova and Savona.
In La Spezia, perhaps a founder effect, as you said, also because they would be all R-L20. Regarding Treviso, there would be this sampling bias you referred to, in Boattini et al, but if we think the real number must be well above average anyway (even if lower than Boattini's), it could be that it was a relatively frequent clade among Adriatic Veneti? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the Celt influence in that area was not heavy. If I'm not missing something, the bulk of R-L2 in Treviso could be of "Italic" origin perhaps.What I don't get is why there are two hotspots like Treviso and La Spezia/Massa and so much lower numbers elsewhere. With La Spezia/Massa many of the current inhabitants have come down from the mountains of places like the Garfagnana where R1b as a whole reaches levels of 70-80% in some places, and there's a "lot" of L2, which could be founder effect typical of mountain refuges. I don't know enough about Treviso to venture an opinion.
So maybe we're getting a slightly distorted view because Boattini didn't have a lot of samples, and there's that mountain founder effect to take into account.
Anyone know if there's a good amount of L2 in Provence?