Genetic study The origin and legacy of the Etruscans through a 2000-year archeogenomic time transec

Jovialis · Aug 11, 2022

Indeed, minoans themselves look like they're on a cline between ABA and Greece_N. Makes sense Minoans have slightly more CHG from Greece_N.

Eric Cline states in his book that the Minoans likely came from Anatolia.

Jovialis · Aug 11, 2022

Maybe this one is even better, Mycenaean I think also deserves a cline considering Magna Grecia, and the existence of Mycenaean-like Greeks in IA Campania.

Stuvanè · Aug 11, 2022

Mine (Jovialis + Pax coordinates)

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Dodecadk12bStuvanè[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8CFF00, align: right"]4.12127407[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]5.96436920[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_899-1021CE:TAQ009[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D2FF00, align: right"]6.18798836[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval

oggioPelliccia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_772-960CE

OP001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]6.31981012[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_895-1016CE:TAQ011[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E3FF00, align: right"]6.68472139[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_1018-1151CE:TAQ022[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.80932776[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE300, align: right"]8.33039615[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_997-1149CE:ETR003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.15716659[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB300, align: right"]9.72911096[/TD]
[TD]R10343_Italy_bc-Tarquinia_Monterozzi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23210145[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN009[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA100, align: right"]10.26249970[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN017[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9900, align: right"]10.50968601[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9800, align: right"]10.54409788[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-406BCE:VET001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF9200, align: right"]10.71946361[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN005[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8E00, align: right"]10.81554437[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_729-942CE:TAQ003[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8100, align: right"]11.19209096[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_MAS001:Marsilianad'Albegna(Grosseto_Tuscany)_350-100BCE:MAS001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7C00, align: right"]11.35817327[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)C899-1016CE:ETR013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7B00, align: right"]11.38123016[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN008[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6800, align: right"]11.93949748[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_772-888CE:ETR006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF6300, align: right"]12.07552069[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5300, align: right"]12.56003583[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4A00, align: right"]12.81852566[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Volterra(Pisa_Tuscany)_200-60BCE:VOL001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4600, align: right"]12.93006961[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2F00, align: right"]13.61044819[/TD]
[TD]S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN016[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2900, align: right"]13.78004717[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN008
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 1.1366% / 1.13657090 | ADC: 0.25x RC

[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]78.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Early.Medieval[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]15.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Etruscan[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]S.Italy_Venosa_related[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]2.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TH="class: singleheader, colspan: 2, align: left"]Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
Distance: 0.4204% / 0.42043796

[/TH]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]22.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]S.Italy_Venosa[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]21.9[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]17.6[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]R11102_Italy_bc-Pian_Sultano[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]16.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu_related[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]7.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"][/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]S.Italy_Venosa_related[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]1.3[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Imperial[/TD]

[TD="class: barchartmode1 nonselectable, colspan: 2"][/TD]

[TD="class: singleleftcolumn, align: right"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="class: singlerightcolumn"]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated[/TD]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Dodecadk12bStuvanè[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #26FF00, align: right"]1.12689404[/TD]
[TD]60.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014 + 39.40% C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_360-200BCE:VET005[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2AFF00, align: right"]1.23542618[/TD]
[TD]16.80% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN007 + 83.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #2CFF00, align: right"]1.30867841[/TD]
[TD]48.80% C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-520BCE:CAM002 + 51.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval_ETR014:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_977-1022CE:ETR014[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #30FF00, align: right"]1.41108469[/TD]
[TD]80.00% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 20.00% C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_800-590BCE:VET003_4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #30FF00, align: right"]1.41749118[/TD]
[TD]82.00% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 18.00% C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VET002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #30FF00, align: right"]1.42406264[/TD]
[TD]17.00% C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_380-204BCE:CSN003 + 83.00% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #31FF00, align: right"]1.43225538[/TD]
[TD]79.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 20.40% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #31FF00, align: right"]1.43996828[/TD]
[TD]17.40% C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_770-540BCE:CAM003 + 82.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.46331618[/TD]
[TD]81.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 18.40% C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ018[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.47171959[/TD]
[TD]79.40% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 20.60% C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.47207765[/TD]
[TD]81.40% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 18.60% C.Italy_Etruscan

oggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_794-543BCE

RZ001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.48008046[/TD]
[TD]19.00% C.Italy_Etruscan:CampigliadeiFoci(Siena_Tuscany)_780-540BCE:CAM001 + 81.00% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #32FF00, align: right"]1.48160962[/TD]
[TD]84.40% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 15.60% R11107_Italy_bc-Pian_Sultano[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #33FF00, align: right"]1.50787067[/TD]
[TD]20.40% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN001 + 79.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #34FF00, align: right"]1.52675300[/TD]
[TD]84.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 15.80% C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_806-599BCE:VET007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #34FF00, align: right"]1.53143403[/TD]
[TD]84.80% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 15.20% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ012[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #35FF00, align: right"]1.55451416[/TD]
[TD]20.60% C.Italy_Etruscan:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)_805-774BCE:ETR005 + 79.40% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #36FF00, align: right"]1.58213074[/TD]
[TD]84.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 15.40% R11105_Italy_bc-Pian_Sultano[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #36FF00, align: right"]1.59878732[/TD]
[TD]82.00% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 18.00% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ004[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #37FF00, align: right"]1.61070218[/TD]
[TD]83.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 16.80% R10359_Italy_bc-Tarquinia_Monterozzi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #37FF00, align: right"]1.61668215[/TD]
[TD]79.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 20.40% C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #37FF00, align: right"]1.63232723[/TD]
[TD]81.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 18.80% C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_358-98BCE:TAQ019[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #38FF00, align: right"]1.64022622[/TD]
[TD]82.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007 + 17.80% C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ017[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #38FF00, align: right"]1.64444785[/TD]
[TD]20.80% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN013 + 79.20% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #38FF00, align: right"]1.65482452[/TD]
[TD]15.40% C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN004 + 84.60% C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

ihype02 · Aug 11, 2022

In G25:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ITA_Chiusi_EMA[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #56FF00, align: right"]0.01684813[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #56FF00, align: right"]0.01684848[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #64FF00, align: right"]0.01959056[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #66FF00, align: right"]0.02005724[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #69FF00, align: right"]0.02058945[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6BFF00, align: right"]0.02095955[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #77FF00, align: right"]0.02336779[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Basilicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7FFF00, align: right"]0.02484728[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #80FF00, align: right"]0.02515773[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #87FF00, align: right"]0.02642290[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]0.02692627[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8FFF00, align: right"]0.02805450[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #91FF00, align: right"]0.02839739[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #98FF00, align: right"]0.02983395[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian_West[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]0.02991190[/TD]
[TD]Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A1FF00, align: right"]0.03157958[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]0.03168379[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Laconia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]0.03338691[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03527651[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03527716[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03604280[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]0.03651000[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Ukraine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]0.03655507[/TD]
[TD]Maltese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]0.03662124[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Belarussia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]0.03669431[/TD]
[TD]Albanian

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Pax Augusta · Aug 11, 2022

ihype02 said:
In G25:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ITA_Chiusi_EMA[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #56FF00, align: right"]0.01684813[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #56FF00, align: right"]0.01684848[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #64FF00, align: right"]0.01959056[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #66FF00, align: right"]0.02005724[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #69FF00, align: right"]0.02058945[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #6BFF00, align: right"]0.02095955[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #77FF00, align: right"]0.02336779[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Basilicata[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #7FFF00, align: right"]0.02484728[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #80FF00, align: right"]0.02515773[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #87FF00, align: right"]0.02642290[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #89FF00, align: right"]0.02692627[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #8FFF00, align: right"]0.02805450[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #91FF00, align: right"]0.02839739[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #98FF00, align: right"]0.02983395[/TD]
[TD]Sicilian_West[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #99FF00, align: right"]0.02991190[/TD]
[TD]Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A1FF00, align: right"]0.03157958[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A2FF00, align: right"]0.03168379[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Laconia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #AAFF00, align: right"]0.03338691[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03527651[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03527716[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03604280[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]0.03651000[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Ukraine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BAFF00, align: right"]0.03655507[/TD]
[TD]Maltese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]0.03662124[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Belarussia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BBFF00, align: right"]0.03669431[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Is ITA_Chiusi_EMA an average? On how many and which samples is this average based? In the G25 individual spredsheet there are only 5 and it also includes an outlier, but the samples in the study are many more, I think 9 or 10 (I'm going from memory), and the outlier should be removed from the overall average.

The G25 works quite differently from Dodecad K12b, G25 is based on 25 components that we know nothing about (Do 25 components really exist? I think not), and many other aspects that do not make the G25 totally credible either. As far as I am concerned, the whole part of the Posht 2021 paper from the imperial era onwards remains the least credible part of the paper. For so many reasons. Lack of samples and all that. In my opinion, the samples from the imperial and medieval periods that are used in the study are still insufficient to draw conclusions. Not only because of the number but also because of the geographical origin of these samples compared to the modern population.

Doing a PCA with all the G25 samples this is the position. An insane position.

Angela · Aug 11, 2022

It's called transparency, which many people in this "hobby" don't practice, but which the academics, at least, have to provide, so you can see where they went wrong.

Angela · Aug 11, 2022

Stuvane's closest match, an EMA Etruscan:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany)775-945CE:ETR007[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]3.59398108[/TD]
[TD]Albanian_Kosovo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]3.92285610[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]4.19192080[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_South[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]4.47730946[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thrace[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]4.88575480[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_Vardar[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.11480205[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.73157919[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaloniki[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.75122596[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]5.83864710[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.06705860[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian_Thrace[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.07998355[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.24148220[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.33275611[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.82360608[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_Polog[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]6.88374898[/TD]
[TD]Turk_Makedonya[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.09847871[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.12030196[/TD]
[TD]Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.44261271[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.87724571[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.89558104[/TD]
[TD]Bulgarian_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]7.98430335[/TD]
[TD]Moldovan_Gagauz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.39036948[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.58901624[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Emilia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.66392521[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Friuli_VG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #0000FF, align: right"]8.87625484[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Are Albania and Greece East Med now? I have a feeling that's not what the authors of the paper meant.

Er Monnezza · Aug 11, 2022

This should be the complete list of all samples from mainland Italy + Sicily dated between 1000 and 1 BC. I also took the liberty of dividing them into macro-clusters.

Code:

Cluster_1:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_o:R10337,8.39,0,4.23,0.02,14.92,0,0,1.82,26.08,0.60,43.93,0.02
Cluster_2:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876,0.3,0.4,2.74,0.69,45.89,7.84,0,0,8.73,0,32.68,0.73
Cluster_3:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:R437,5.89,0,2.61,0,32.88,11.52,0,0,11.42,0.47,34.68,0.53
Cluster_4:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr1:TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Afr2:R475,0,0,12.34,0,38.51,11.99,0.78,2.01,11.21,0,22.39,0.77
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr2:TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_Afr2:VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
Cluster_6:ITA_Daunian1_low_res:ORD019,1.73,0,0.9,0,38.01,22.88,2.51,0,0,0,33.46,0.52
Cluster_7:ITA_Daunian2_low_res:SAL003,0,0,1.91,0,39.06,17.5,0,0,7.93,0,33.23,0.38
Cluster_7:ITA_Daunian2_low_res:SGR003,2.69,0,1.74,2.68,40.79,15.65,0,1.55,7.31,0,27.6,0
Cluster_8:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
Cluster_8:ITA_Daunian3_low_res:ORD001,2.13,0,3.17,1.09,29.5,31.57,0,0.75,9.39,1.76,20.64,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD006,0,0,0,2.54,41.99,25.03,0,0,8.55,0,21.11,0.78
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD011,0,0,0,0,41.49,23.76,0,0,8.92,0.98,24.85,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian:ORD009,4.03,0.65,1.42,0.98,38.29,23.77,0,0,7.95,0,22.52,0.39
Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343,3.53,0,0.89,0.50,42.32,22.36,0,0.20,6.37,0,23.83,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
Cluster_10:ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1,4.87,1.72,1.2,0,34.92,26.41,0,0,5.74,0,24.51,0.64
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
Cluster_11:ITA_Daunian5_low_res:ORD004,0,0,0,0,44.67,29.85,0,0,0.14,0,22.4,2.95
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363,1.29,0.37,1.15,0.50,45.66,26.89,0.46,0,5.41,0,17.79,0.48
Cluster_12:ITA_Daunian6_low_res:SGR002,1.02,0.6,2.92,0,45.47,29.36,0,0.66,5.54,0,14.06,0.37
Cluster_12:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:R435,4.6,0.48,1.22,0,46.59,28.92,0.06,0,4.14,0,13.22,0.77
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340,3.72,0,0,0,47.09,27.17,0,0.38,3.98,0.96,16.09,0.61
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10361,3.60,0,0.51,0.44,47.07,28.51,0,0,3.73,0.34,15.32,0.48
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Daunian6_low_res:ORD014,0,2.06,4.08,0,43.2,28.47,0.29,0,2.97,0,18.93,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474,6.73,0,1.43,0.32,39.73,25.66,0,0.13,5.53,0,19.64,0.85
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Chiusi:ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
Cluster_13:ITA_Daunian7_low_res:SAL007,4.63,0,0,0,53.35,16.94,0,0,6.74,0,18.34,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10359,2.99,0.05,0,0.53,50.17,22.59,0,0,5.48,0,17.89,0.30
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Magliano:MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
Cluster_13:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:R851,1.08,0,1.52,0,49.35,25.19,0,0,1.78,0,20.65,0.44
Cluster_13:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:R1021,1.77,0,0.94,0.76,48.63,23.97,0,0.15,1.54,0,21.8,0.44
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338,1.43,0,1.33,1.31,45.54,24.78,0,0,5.23,0,20.20,0.17
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10344,0,0,1.23,0,46.50,22.77,0,0.45,5.62,0,23.36,0.06
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R473,1.01,0.23,0.57,0,47.29,22.71,0,0.37,6.95,0.11,20.11,0.66
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Villanovan:R1015,1.64,0.26,2.62,0.01,48.21,21.4,0,0,5.06,0,20.64,0.16
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
Cluster_13:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:R1016,3.25,1.53,0.94,0,47.98,19.32,1.2,0,3.3,0,22.38,0.1
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
Cluster_14:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
Cluster_15:ITA_Etruscan_Chiostraccio:UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
Cluster_16:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
Cluster_17:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_CEU1:R10342,5.36,0.92,2.37,0,44.54,35.11,0,0,0.67,0.29,10.47,0.28
Cluster_17:ITA_Daunian_CEU1_low_res:SAL010,4.31,0,0,0.02,45.37,38.34,0,0,0,0,11.95,0
Cluster_17:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU1:VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU2:CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU2:CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
Cluster_19:ITA_Daunian8_low_res:SAL011,8.8,0,0.77,0.26,61.26,14.72,0,0,5.84,0,8.35,0

Pax Augusta · Aug 11, 2022

Er Monnezza said:
This should be the complete list of all samples from mainland Italy + Sicily dated between 1000 and 1 BC. I also took the liberty of dividing them into macro-clusters.

Thank you very much, but can you also publish them without clusters? Clusters can add confusion.

ihype02 · Aug 11, 2022

Pax Augusta said:
Is ITA_Chiusi_EMA an average? On how many and which samples is this average based? In the G25 individual spredsheet there are only 5 and it also includes an outlier, but the samples in the study are many more, I think 9 or 10 (I'm going from memory), and the outlier should be removed from the overall average.

The G25 works quite differently from Dodecad K12b, G25 is based on 25 components that we know nothing about (Do 25 components really exist? I think not), and many other aspects that do not make the G25 totally credible either. As far as I am concerned, the whole part of the Posht 2021 paper from the imperial era onwards remains the least credible part of the paper. For so many reasons. Lack of samples and all that. In my opinion, the samples from the imperial and medieval periods that are used in the study are still insufficient to draw conclusions. Not only because of the number but also because of the geographical origin of these samples compared to the modern population.

Doing a PCA with all the G25 samples this is the position. An insane position.

There is one outlier which is Cretan-like not sure from which region that is, but it surely should get removed from the average if it was included.

Not sure how the PCA was made but the average basically fits in the Italian cluster how is that an insane position?

ihype02 · Aug 11, 2022

ETR007 in G25:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ITA_Chiusi_EMA:ETR007[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #A3FF00, align: right"]0.03202473[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B0FF00, align: right"]0.03447627[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03523971[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Thessaly[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B4FF00, align: right"]0.03525043[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Piedmont[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B7FF00, align: right"]0.03597057[/TD]
[TD]Swiss_Italian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #B8FF00, align: right"]0.03613625[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Umbria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CAFF00, align: right"]0.03967076[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CBFF00, align: right"]0.03987751[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Macedonia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]0.04013909[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Liguria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #CDFF00, align: right"]0.04027853[/TD]
[TD]Albanian[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D3FF00, align: right"]0.04144553[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D4FF00, align: right"]0.04164202[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Veneto[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D5FF00, align: right"]0.04170949[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D6FF00, align: right"]0.04198144[/TD]
[TD]Rumelia_East[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04206895[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D7FF00, align: right"]0.04213203[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lombardy[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DCFF00, align: right"]0.04311866[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DEFF00, align: right"]0.04352823[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Molise[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E0FF00, align: right"]0.04397341[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Bergamo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E1FF00, align: right"]0.04409764[/TD]
[TD]Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E6FF00, align: right"]0.04516043[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04559155[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #E9FF00, align: right"]0.04565748[/TD]
[TD]Gagauz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EAFF00, align: right"]0.04583179[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Northeast[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EBFF00, align: right"]0.04604215[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Laconia

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Er Monnezza · Aug 11, 2022

Pax Augusta said:
Thank you very much, but can you also publish them without clusters? Clusters can add confusion.

Of course. I hope it's all of them.

Code:

ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:R851,1.08,0,1.52,0,49.35,25.19,0,0,1.78,0,20.65,0.44
ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o:R850,7.3,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0,0.43,14.77,0,40.1,0
ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:R1021,1.77,0,0.94,0.76,48.63,23.97,0,0.15,1.54,0,21.8,0.44
ITA_Daunian:ORD009,4.03,0.65,1.42,0.98,38.29,23.77,0,0,7.95,0,22.52,0.39
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD001,2.13,0,3.17,1.09,29.5,31.57,0,0.75,9.39,1.76,20.64,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD004,0,0,0,0,44.67,29.85,0,0,0.14,0,22.4,2.95
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD006,0,0,0,2.54,41.99,25.03,0,0,8.55,0,21.11,0.78
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD011,0,0,0,0,41.49,23.76,0,0,8.92,0.98,24.85,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD014,0,2.06,4.08,0,43.2,28.47,0.29,0,2.97,0,18.93,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD019,1.73,0,0.9,0,38.01,22.88,2.51,0,0,0,33.46,0.52
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL003,0,0,1.91,0,39.06,17.5,0,0,7.93,0,33.23,0.38
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL007,4.63,0,0,0,53.35,16.94,0,0,6.74,0,18.34,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL010,4.31,0,0,0.02,45.37,38.34,0,0,0,0,11.95,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL011,8.8,0,0.77,0.26,61.26,14.72,0,0,5.84,0,8.35,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SGR002,1.02,0.6,2.92,0,45.47,29.36,0,0.66,5.54,0,14.06,0.37
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SGR003,2.69,0,1.74,2.68,40.79,15.65,0,1.55,7.31,0,27.6,0
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU:CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU:CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
ITA_Etruscan_Chiostraccio:UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
ITA_Etruscan_Chiusi:ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R473,1.01,0.23,0.57,0,47.29,22.71,0,0.37,6.95,0.11,20.11,0.66
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474,6.73,0,1.43,0.32,39.73,25.66,0,0.13,5.53,0,19.64,0.85
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia_Afr:R475,0,0,12.34,0,38.51,11.99,0.78,2.01,11.21,0,22.39,0.77
ITA_Etruscan_Magliano:MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338,1.43,0,1.33,1.31,45.54,24.78,0,0,5.23,0,20.20,0.17
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340,3.72,0,0,0,47.09,27.17,0,0.38,3.98,0.96,16.09,0.61
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343,3.53,0,0.89,0.50,42.32,22.36,0,0.20,6.37,0,23.83,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10344,0,0,1.23,0,46.50,22.77,0,0.45,5.62,0,23.36,0.06
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10359,2.99,0.05,0,0.53,50.17,22.59,0,0,5.48,0,17.89,0.30
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10361,3.60,0,0.51,0.44,47.07,28.51,0,0,3.73,0.34,15.32,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363,1.29,0.37,1.15,0.50,45.66,26.89,0.46,0,5.41,0,17.79,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr:TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr:TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_CEU:R10342,5.36,0.92,2.37,0,44.54,35.11,0,0,0.67,0.29,10.47,0.28
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_o:R10337,8.39,0,4.23,0.02,14.92,0,0,1.82,26.08,0.60,43.93,0.02
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_Afr:VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU:VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:R435,4.6,0.48,1.22,0,46.59,28.92,0.06,0,4.14,0,13.22,0.77
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:R437,5.89,0,2.61,0,32.88,11.52,0,0,11.42,0.47,34.68,0.53
ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1,4.87,1.72,1.2,0,34.92,26.41,0,0,5.74,0,24.51,0.64
ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:R1016,3.25,1.53,0.94,0,47.98,19.32,1.2,0,3.3,0,22.38,0.1
ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876,0.3,0.4,2.74,0.69,45.89,7.84,0,0,8.73,0,32.68,0.73
ITA_Villanovan:R1015,1.64,0.26,2.62,0.01,48.21,21.4,0,0,5.06,0,20.64,0.16

Pax Augusta · Aug 11, 2022

Er Monnezza said:
Of course. I hope it's all of them.

Thank you, I will check later if they are all there, but it seems so.

torzio · Aug 11, 2022

Er Monnezza said:

This should be the complete list of all samples from mainland Italy + Sicily dated between 1000 and 1 BC. I also took the liberty of dividing them into macro-clusters.

Code:

Cluster_1:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_o:R10337,8.39,0,4.23,0.02,14.92,0,0,1.82,26.08,0.60,43.93,0.02
Cluster_2:ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876,0.3,0.4,2.74,0.69,45.89,7.84,0,0,8.73,0,32.68,0.73
Cluster_3:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:R437,5.89,0,2.61,0,32.88,11.52,0,0,11.42,0.47,34.68,0.53
Cluster_4:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr1:TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Afr2:R475,0,0,12.34,0,38.51,11.99,0.78,2.01,11.21,0,22.39,0.77
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr2:TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
Cluster_5:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_Afr2:VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
Cluster_6:ITA_Daunian1_low_res:ORD019,1.73,0,0.9,0,38.01,22.88,2.51,0,0,0,33.46,0.52
Cluster_7:ITA_Daunian2_low_res:SAL003,0,0,1.91,0,39.06,17.5,0,0,7.93,0,33.23,0.38
Cluster_7:ITA_Daunian2_low_res:SGR003,2.69,0,1.74,2.68,40.79,15.65,0,1.55,7.31,0,27.6,0
Cluster_8:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
Cluster_8:ITA_Daunian3_low_res:ORD001,2.13,0,3.17,1.09,29.5,31.57,0,0.75,9.39,1.76,20.64,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD006,0,0,0,2.54,41.99,25.03,0,0,8.55,0,21.11,0.78
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD011,0,0,0,0,41.49,23.76,0,0,8.92,0.98,24.85,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian:ORD009,4.03,0.65,1.42,0.98,38.29,23.77,0,0,7.95,0,22.52,0.39
Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343,3.53,0,0.89,0.50,42.32,22.36,0,0.20,6.37,0,23.83,0
Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
Cluster_10:ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1,4.87,1.72,1.2,0,34.92,26.41,0,0,5.74,0,24.51,0.64
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
Cluster_11:ITA_Daunian5_low_res:ORD004,0,0,0,0,44.67,29.85,0,0,0.14,0,22.4,2.95
Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363,1.29,0.37,1.15,0.50,45.66,26.89,0.46,0,5.41,0,17.79,0.48
Cluster_12:ITA_Daunian6_low_res:SGR002,1.02,0.6,2.92,0,45.47,29.36,0,0.66,5.54,0,14.06,0.37
Cluster_12:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:R435,4.6,0.48,1.22,0,46.59,28.92,0.06,0,4.14,0,13.22,0.77
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340,3.72,0,0,0,47.09,27.17,0,0.38,3.98,0.96,16.09,0.61
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10361,3.60,0,0.51,0.44,47.07,28.51,0,0,3.73,0.34,15.32,0.48
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Daunian6_low_res:ORD014,0,2.06,4.08,0,43.2,28.47,0.29,0,2.97,0,18.93,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474,6.73,0,1.43,0.32,39.73,25.66,0,0.13,5.53,0,19.64,0.85
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Chiusi:ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
Cluster_13:ITA_Daunian7_low_res:SAL007,4.63,0,0,0,53.35,16.94,0,0,6.74,0,18.34,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10359,2.99,0.05,0,0.53,50.17,22.59,0,0,5.48,0,17.89,0.30
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Magliano:MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
Cluster_13:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:R851,1.08,0,1.52,0,49.35,25.19,0,0,1.78,0,20.65,0.44
Cluster_13:ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:R1021,1.77,0,0.94,0.76,48.63,23.97,0,0.15,1.54,0,21.8,0.44
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338,1.43,0,1.33,1.31,45.54,24.78,0,0,5.23,0,20.20,0.17
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10344,0,0,1.23,0,46.50,22.77,0,0.45,5.62,0,23.36,0.06
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R473,1.01,0.23,0.57,0,47.29,22.71,0,0.37,6.95,0.11,20.11,0.66
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Villanovan:R1015,1.64,0.26,2.62,0.01,48.21,21.4,0,0,5.06,0,20.64,0.16
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
Cluster_13:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:R1016,3.25,1.53,0.94,0,47.98,19.32,1.2,0,3.3,0,22.38,0.1
Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
Cluster_14:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
Cluster_15:ITA_Etruscan_Chiostraccio:UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
Cluster_16:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
Cluster_17:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_CEU1:R10342,5.36,0.92,2.37,0,44.54,35.11,0,0,0.67,0.29,10.47,0.28
Cluster_17:ITA_Daunian_CEU1_low_res:SAL010,4.31,0,0,0.02,45.37,38.34,0,0,0,0,11.95,0
Cluster_17:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU1:VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU2:CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU2:CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
Cluster_19:ITA_Daunian8_low_res:SAL011,8.8,0,0.77,0.26,61.26,14.72,0,0,5.84,0,8.35,0

Distance to: Torziok12b
4.90795273 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474
4.94308608 Cluster_10:ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1
6.35208627 Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian:ORD009
7.47945854 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005
7.77274083 Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009
8.85378450 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008
9.57447649 Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001
9.71087020 Cluster_8:ITA_Daunian3_low_res:ORD001
9.79587668 Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343
9.89305312 Cluster_8:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001
10.56674974 Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD006
10.99554455 Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006
11.05177814 Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU2:CAM002
11.17633214 Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001
11.22739507 Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian4_low_res:ORD011
11.39269064 Cluster_12:ITA_Daunian6_low_res:ORD014
11.63097588 Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006
11.80943267 Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU2:CSN010
11.84096702 Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338
11.86362508 Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004
11.95079077 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363
12.13428201 Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013
12.85277402 Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002
13.01492220 Cluster_13:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016
13.10041984 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340

Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 1.1928% / 1.19279252
39.6 Cluster_17
21.0 Cluster_8
15.7 Cluster_12
9.8 Cluster_1
9.2 Cluster_3
3.3 Cluster_6
1.4 Cluster_10

torzio · Aug 11, 2022

Er Monnezza said:

Of course. I hope it's all of them.

Code:

ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:R851,1.08,0,1.52,0,49.35,25.19,0,0,1.78,0,20.65,0.44
ITA_Boville_Ernica_IA:R1021,1.77,0,0.94,0.76,48.63,23.97,0,0.15,1.54,0,21.8,0.44
ITA_Daunian:ORD009,4.03,0.65,1.42,0.98,38.29,23.77,0,0,7.95,0,22.52,0.39
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD001,2.13,0,3.17,1.09,29.5,31.57,0,0.75,9.39,1.76,20.64,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD004,0,0,0,0,44.67,29.85,0,0,0.14,0,22.4,2.95
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD006,0,0,0,2.54,41.99,25.03,0,0,8.55,0,21.11,0.78
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD011,0,0,0,0,41.49,23.76,0,0,8.92,0.98,24.85,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD014,0,2.06,4.08,0,43.2,28.47,0.29,0,2.97,0,18.93,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD019,1.73,0,0.9,0,38.01,22.88,2.51,0,0,0,33.46,0.52
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL003,0,0,1.91,0,39.06,17.5,0,0,7.93,0,33.23,0.38
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL007,4.63,0,0,0,53.35,16.94,0,0,6.74,0,18.34,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL010,4.31,0,0,0.02,45.37,38.34,0,0,0,0,11.95,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SAL011,8.8,0,0.77,0.26,61.26,14.72,0,0,5.84,0,8.35,0
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SGR002,1.02,0.6,2.92,0,45.47,29.36,0,0.66,5.54,0,14.06,0.37
ITA_Daunian_low_res:SGR003,2.69,0,1.74,2.68,40.79,15.65,0,1.55,7.31,0,27.6,0
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM001,1.38,0.19,1.2,0,47.62,24.58,0,0,6.88,0,17.87,0.27
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia:CAM003,0.93,0.04,0.79,0,49.21,23.83,0,0,7,0.18,16.98,1.04
ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU:CAM002,4.72,0.03,0,1.59,40.47,34.19,0,0,4.64,0,13.94,0.44
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN001,0.74,0,1.6,0.73,46.5,23.83,0,0,7.19,0,19.25,0.16
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002,0,0.36,0,0,41.12,32.35,0,0,0,0,26.17,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN003,0.97,0.01,2,0,49.14,21.97,1.05,0,7.95,0.53,15.93,0.45
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN004,1.49,0,2.17,0.71,51.75,19.41,0.13,0,5.2,0,18.21,0.93
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005,1.48,0,4.65,0,39.23,28.19,0.65,0,6.11,0.54,19.16,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006,3.62,0,0,1.53,45.77,24.02,0.29,0,4.9,0,19.6,0.27
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN007,0,0,0,0.5,50.29,20.45,0,0,10.86,0,17.91,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008,4.93,0,0,0.4,43.71,27.95,0,0,4.16,0,18.84,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009,2.52,0,2.03,0,39.86,27.95,0,0,2.52,0.43,23.93,0.75
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN012,7.01,0,10.55,0,41.84,29.45,0,0,0,0,11.15,0
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013,4.87,0,0.54,0,45.93,21.96,0.41,0,5.92,0.25,19.55,0.57
ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU:CSN010,4.43,0.27,3.49,0,40.36,31.59,0,0,5.33,1.81,11.48,1.25
ITA_Etruscan_Chiostraccio:UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
ITA_Etruscan_Chiusi:ETR005,2,0,0,1.54,45.54,20.52,0.17,0,9.35,1.02,18.73,1.13
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R473,1.01,0.23,0.57,0,47.29,22.71,0,0.37,6.95,0.11,20.11,0.66
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474,6.73,0,1.43,0.32,39.73,25.66,0,0.13,5.53,0,19.64,0.85
ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia_Afr:R475,0,0,12.34,0,38.51,11.99,0.78,2.01,11.21,0,22.39,0.77
ITA_Etruscan_Magliano:MAG001,0.84,0,0,0,47.05,24.88,0.37,0.08,3.46,0.47,22.84,0.02
ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001,7.2,0.84,4.18,0,26.73,30.23,1.6,0.6,6.25,1.12,21.08,0.18
ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004,1.12,0,0.85,0,44.63,29.23,0,0,1.36,1.35,21.46,0
ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ001,1.55,0.11,0,0,48.41,23.78,0,0,6.08,0.13,19.22,0.71
ITA_Etruscan_PoggioRenzo:PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338,1.43,0,1.33,1.31,45.54,24.78,0,0,5.23,0,20.20,0.17
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340,3.72,0,0,0,47.09,27.17,0,0.38,3.98,0.96,16.09,0.61
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343,3.53,0,0.89,0.50,42.32,22.36,0,0.20,6.37,0,23.83,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10344,0,0,1.23,0,46.50,22.77,0,0.45,5.62,0,23.36,0.06
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10359,2.99,0.05,0,0.53,50.17,22.59,0,0,5.48,0,17.89,0.30
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10361,3.60,0,0.51,0.44,47.07,28.51,0,0,3.73,0.34,15.32,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363,1.29,0.37,1.15,0.50,45.66,26.89,0.46,0,5.41,0,17.79,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr:TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_Afr:TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_CEU:R10342,5.36,0.92,2.37,0,44.54,35.11,0,0,0.67,0.29,10.47,0.28
ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_o:R10337,8.39,0,4.23,0.02,14.92,0,0,1.82,26.08,0.60,43.93,0.02
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_Afr:VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU:VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:R435,4.6,0.48,1.22,0,46.59,28.92,0.06,0,4.14,0,13.22,0.77
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:R437,5.89,0,2.61,0,32.88,11.52,0,0,11.42,0.47,34.68,0.53
ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1,4.87,1.72,1.2,0,34.92,26.41,0,0,5.74,0,24.51,0.64
ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:R1016,3.25,1.53,0.94,0,47.98,19.32,1.2,0,3.3,0,22.38,0.1
ITA_Sicily_LBA:I3876,0.3,0.4,2.74,0.69,45.89,7.84,0,0,8.73,0,32.68,0.73
ITA_Villanovan:R1015,1.64,0.26,2.62,0.01,48.21,21.4,0,0,5.06,0,20.64,0.16

Distance to: Torziok12b
4.90795273 ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474
4.94308608 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1
6.35208627 ITA_Daunian:ORD009
7.47945854 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005
7.77274083 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009
8.85378450 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN008
9.57447649 ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001
9.71087020 ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD001
9.79587668 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10343
9.89305312 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001
10.56674974 ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD006
10.99554455 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ006
11.05177814 ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU:CAM002
11.17633214 ITA_Etruscan_Volterrra:VOL001
11.22739507 ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD011
11.39269064 ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD014
11.63097588 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN006
11.80943267 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU:CSN010
11.84096702 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10338
11.86362508 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS004
11.95079077 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10363
12.13428201 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN013
12.85277402 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN002
13.01492220 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:TAQ016
13.10041984 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia:R10340

Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 1.1901% / 1.19006121
28.7 ITA_Daunian_low_res
20.5 ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia
20.4 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana
12.8 ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia_CEU
10.8 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia_o
5.0 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o
1.8 ITA_Proto-Villanovan

seems like the above is only based on the numbers of samples ............so it makes no sense

Stefano · Aug 11, 2022

My distances
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[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Stefano[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #82FF00, align: right"]3.82604234[/TD]
[TD]R10343_Italy_bc-Tarquinia_Monterozzi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D1FF00, align: right"]6.13256879[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-406BCE:VET001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #ECFF00, align: right"]6.94068440[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_427-265BCE:CSN009[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9FF00, align: right"]7.31659757[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA00, align: right"]7.64901955[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_1018-1151CE:TAQ022[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF400, align: right"]7.80986556[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Volterra(Pisa_Tuscany)_200-60BCE:VOL001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF200, align: right"]7.87109903[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval

oggioPelliccia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_772-960CE

OP001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE800, align: right"]8.17667414[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFDD00, align: right"]8.49345630[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany)_533-392BCE:CSN006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD900, align: right"]8.60570741[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD400, align: right"]8.76744547[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN008[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD200, align: right"]8.82562746[/TD]
[TD]R10338_Italy_bc-Tarquinia_Monterozzi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCB00, align: right"]9.01633518[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval_undated:Chiusi(Siena_Tuscany):ETR010[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC700, align: right"]9.16045305[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN005[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC500, align: right"]9.19384033[/TD]
[TD]R10344_Italy_bc-Tarquinia_Monterozzi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFC000, align: right"]9.34582260[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_895-1016CE:TAQ011[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBE00, align: right"]9.40286127[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFBD00, align: right"]9.43827844[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VEU001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB900, align: right"]9.54663815[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_899-1021CE:TAQ009[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB800, align: right"]9.57866901[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ013[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB400, align: right"]9.71511194[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB200, align: right"]9.75599815[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:MaglianoinToscana(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:MAG001[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA800, align: right"]10.07248728[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ024[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.14787663[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_800-590BCE:VET003_4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA500, align: right"]10.15973425[/TD]
[TD]C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Casenovole(Grosseto_Tuscany):CSN001

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Thanks to all the posters!

Salento · Aug 11, 2022

I can’t seem to locate Latin Ardea R850 in the new lists … my favorite y T Latin

Er Monnezza · Aug 12, 2022

Salento said:
I can’t seem to locate Latin Ardea R850 in the new lists … my favorite y T Latin

Thank you! I added it to the last list.

Francesco · Feb 10, 2023

Maybe this have already been brought up, but do we have the Y haplogroups of the so called etruscan imperial samples? The paper seems to assume they were individual representative of a newly formed mixed population of etruscans and levantines, but I find this hypothesis a bit unlikely, since it would imply a very high demographic turnover in just a century, with etruscans suddenly stopping mating with each other and choosing instead a partner from the levant. I find more plausibl to assume that they could have just been a relatively unadmixed aegean-like migrants from Magna Grecia. The distal population modeling they provide seems consistent with this scenario. Maybe the Y haplogroups could shed some light on the matter.

italouruguayan · Feb 10, 2023

Mine...

Distance to: Italouruguayan
10.79202483 Cluster_8:ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001
10.79202483 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana:MAS001
12.98469484 Cluster_8:ITA_Daunian3_low_res:ORD001
12.98469484 ITA_Daunian_low_res:ORD001
15.13844774 Cluster_10:ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1
15.13844774 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:R1
16.95271365 Cluster_9:ITA_Daunian:ORD009
16.95271365 ITA_Daunian:ORD009
17.29596196 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474
17.29596196 ITA_Etruscan_Civitavecchia:R474
17.40453964 Cluster_12:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005
17.40453964 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN005
18.57538694 Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU2:CSN010
18.57538694 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole_CEU:CSN010
19.43005404 Cluster_11:ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009
19.43005404 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole:CSN009
20.04795002 Cluster_18:ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU2:CAM002
20.04795002 ITA_Etruscan_Campiglia_CEU:CAM002
20.16231386 Cluster_9:ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001
20.16231386 ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia:VET001

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