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@Hawk
You should read what you're posting because nothing justifies your wild claims especially the stuff about the "expansion" of the "Brnjica culture" or the Macedonians from the Central Balkans or the ludicrous "Macedonians and/or Dorians from Brnjica" that Derite was propagating on anthrogenica before the got banned . Alaj published most of the actual excavations in 2019. The Bërnicë site wasn't even properly surveyed until then.
The term "propaganda" applies to the banned people who claim ludicrous theories about Macedonians and Dorians from the central Balkans.
The necropolis (Bërnicë) and the site Trudë date to the transitional era (11th-9th centuries BC until the 7th century BC) No metallic objects found at Trudë. A sword and few other metallic objects were found at Bërnicë e Poshtme. This is what Alaj published about the site.
The supposed "Brnjica pottery" is really just a regional style which was popular at one point during the end of the LBA in the nearby regions and then was just abandoned. It didn't expand with any "invasion" like some here like to fantasize. The most ridiculous thing about is that most "local" finds of this type of pottery are found north and east of Kosova, but not in Kosova itself.
The motifs of this style belong to the older Middle Bronze Age traditions of the central Balkans in this group of sites (note the term "group" not "culture"; get an archaeology textbook and learn the difference between the two terms in archaeology)
The source is older than the latest excavations. I'm posting it as an argument for chronology:
The Oxford Handbook of the European Bronze Age pp855:
https://i.ibb.co/4pnLgxJ/strazavagroup.png
So, if someone just said that some sites in the central Balkans continued some traditions which already existed in the MBA without claiming some expansive "culture" which doesn't exist or some connection to Macedonians and Dorians who invaded the south (lol), it would be another argument for local Balkan continuity for any population which lived there.
The problem starts when people copy fringe Yugoslav nationalist ideas and try to sell them as something else (Macedonians, Dorians, the "non-Illyrian component in the Dardani", "Brnjica invasion" etc etc)
For all effects and purposes, it would even be reasonable to say that Logkas is an earlier extension of the IE groups of the central Balkans and that maybe the people who lived in the region of Hisar were similar to this group. This is an entirely different argument and context which is debatable, but it's unrelated to everything else which is spammed to death pointlessly.
You should read what you're posting because nothing justifies your wild claims especially the stuff about the "expansion" of the "Brnjica culture" or the Macedonians from the Central Balkans or the ludicrous "Macedonians and/or Dorians from Brnjica" that Derite was propagating on anthrogenica before the got banned . Alaj published most of the actual excavations in 2019. The Bërnicë site wasn't even properly surveyed until then.
The term "propaganda" applies to the banned people who claim ludicrous theories about Macedonians and Dorians from the central Balkans.
The necropolis (Bërnicë) and the site Trudë date to the transitional era (11th-9th centuries BC until the 7th century BC) No metallic objects found at Trudë. A sword and few other metallic objects were found at Bërnicë e Poshtme. This is what Alaj published about the site.
The supposed "Brnjica pottery" is really just a regional style which was popular at one point during the end of the LBA in the nearby regions and then was just abandoned. It didn't expand with any "invasion" like some here like to fantasize. The most ridiculous thing about is that most "local" finds of this type of pottery are found north and east of Kosova, but not in Kosova itself.
The motifs of this style belong to the older Middle Bronze Age traditions of the central Balkans in this group of sites (note the term "group" not "culture"; get an archaeology textbook and learn the difference between the two terms in archaeology)
The source is older than the latest excavations. I'm posting it as an argument for chronology:
The Oxford Handbook of the European Bronze Age pp855:
https://i.ibb.co/4pnLgxJ/strazavagroup.png
So, if someone just said that some sites in the central Balkans continued some traditions which already existed in the MBA without claiming some expansive "culture" which doesn't exist or some connection to Macedonians and Dorians who invaded the south (lol), it would be another argument for local Balkan continuity for any population which lived there.
The problem starts when people copy fringe Yugoslav nationalist ideas and try to sell them as something else (Macedonians, Dorians, the "non-Illyrian component in the Dardani", "Brnjica invasion" etc etc)
For all effects and purposes, it would even be reasonable to say that Logkas is an earlier extension of the IE groups of the central Balkans and that maybe the people who lived in the region of Hisar were similar to this group. This is an entirely different argument and context which is debatable, but it's unrelated to everything else which is spammed to death pointlessly.