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That's Caucasian Albania. It may have been.
Turkish vs. Armenian Autosomal DNA - Compare and Contrast Results.
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[h=1]Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia.[/h]Cinnioğlu C, King R, Kivisild T, Kalfoğlu E, Atasoy S, Cavalleri GL, Lillie AS, Roseman CC, Lin AA, Prince K, Oefner PJ, Shen P, Semino O, Cavalli-Sforza LL,Underhill PA.
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Analysis of 89 biallelic polymorphisms in 523 Turkish Y chromosomes revealed 52 distinct haplotypes with considerable haplogroup substructure, as exemplified by their respective levels of accumulated diversity at ten short tandem repeat (STR) loci. The major components (haplogroups E3b, G, J, I, L, N, K2, and R1; 94.1%) are shared with European and neighboring Near Eastern populations and contrast with only a minor share of haplogroups related to Central Asian (C, Q and O; 3.4%), Indian (H, R2; 1.5%) and African (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) affinity. The expansion times for 20 haplogroup assemblages was estimated from associated STR diversity. This comprehensive characterization of Y-chromosome heritage addresses many multifaceted aspects of Anatolian prehistory, including: (1) the most frequent haplogroup, J, splits into two sub-clades, one of which (J2) shows decreasing variances with increasing latitude, compatible with a northward expansion; (2) haplogroups G1 and L show affinities with south Caucasus populations in their geographic distribution as well as STR motifs; (3) frequency of haplogroup I, which originated in Europe, declines with increasing longitude, indicating gene flow arriving from Europe; (4) conversely, haplogroup G2 radiates towards Europe; (5) haplogroup E3b3 displays a latitudinal correlation with decreasing frequency northward; (6) haplogroup R1b3 emanates from Turkey towards Southeast Europe and Caucasia and; (7) high resolution SNP analysis provides evidence of a detectable yet weak signal (<9%) of recent paternal gene flow from Central Asia. The variety of Turkish haplotypes is witness to Turkey being both an important source and recipient of gene flow.
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Analysis of 89 biallelic polymorphisms in 523 Turkish Y chromosomes revealed 52 distinct haplotypes with considerable haplogroup substructure, as exemplified by their respective levels of accumulated diversity at ten short tandem repeat (STR) loci. The major components (haplogroups E3b, G, J, I, L, N, K2, and R1; 94.1%) are shared with European and neighboring Near Eastern populations and contrast with only a minor share of haplogroups related to Central Asian (C, Q and O; 3.4%), Indian (H, R2; 1.5%) and African (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) affinity. The expansion times for 20 haplogroup assemblages was estimated from associated STR diversity. This comprehensive characterization of Y-chromosome heritage addresses many multifaceted aspects of Anatolian prehistory, including: (1) the most frequent haplogroup, J, splits into two sub-clades, one of which (J2) shows decreasing variances with increasing latitude, compatible with a northward expansion; (2) haplogroups G1 and L show affinities with south Caucasus populations in their geographic distribution as well as STR motifs; (3) frequency of haplogroup I, which originated in Europe, declines with increasing longitude, indicating gene flow arriving from Europe; (4) conversely, haplogroup G2 radiates towards Europe; (5) haplogroup E3b3 displays a latitudinal correlation with decreasing frequency northward; (6) haplogroup R1b3 emanates from Turkey towards Southeast Europe and Caucasia and; (7) high resolution SNP analysis provides evidence of a detectable yet weak signal (<9%) of recent paternal gene flow from Central Asia. The variety of Turkish haplotypes is witness to Turkey being both an important source and recipient of gene flow.
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Anatolian Turkish Genetics: Abstracts and Summaries
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Genetic studies tell us that the Anatolian Turks (those Turks who live in theRepublic of Turkey) are a mix of West Asian, Central Asian, and Northeast Asian ancestral elements, but primarily West Asian. This means most Turks have deep roots in Turkey and are descended from peoples like the Armenians and the Hittites who once lived in large numbers in that land. Some "Turks" in Turkey also have recent ancestry from the Balkans (e.g., Albanians, Bosnians) and Caucasus (e.g., Circassians) but have fully assimilated into Turkish culture. Some "Turks" have some recent Jewish (Israelite) ancestors."
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The major components (haplogroups E3b, G, J, I, L, N, K2, and R1; 94.1%) are shared with European and neighboring Near Eastern populations and contrast with only a minor share of haplogroups related to Central Asian (C, Q and O; 3.4%), Indian (H, R2; 1.5%) and African (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) affinity. [...] high resolution SNP analysis provides evidence of a detectable yet weak signal (<9%) of recent paternal gene flow from Central Asia. The variety of Turkish haplotypes is witness to Turkey being both an important source and recipient of gene flow.
Below are Y-DNA haplogroups Cinnioğlu's team found among Anatolian Turks:
E1b1b1 = 10.7% (common in the Mediterranean region)
G = 10.9% (common in the Caucasus, also found in the Middle East)
I = 5.3% (common in Central Europe, the Western Caucasus, and the Balkans)
J1 = 9% (common in Arabia and Daghestan)
J2 = 24% (common in Western Asia and Southeastern Europe and also found in Central and South Asia)
K = 4.5% (common in Asia and the Caucasus)
L = 4.2% (common in India and Khorasan)
N = 3.8% (common in Eastern Europe and North Asia, including Siberia [e.g. Turkic-speaking Yakuts], the Altai Mountains region, and the Ural Mountains region - the article however did not consider N to come to Turkey's Turks from North Asia)
Q = 1.9% (common in North Asia including Northern Altaic peoples)
R1a = 6.9% (common in Central Asia, the Caucasus, Eastern Europe, and among Indo-Aryans)
R1b = 14.7% (common in Western Europe)
T = 2.5% (common in the Mediterranean, South Asia, and Northeastern Africa)
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Genetic studies tell us that the Anatolian Turks (those Turks who live in theRepublic of Turkey) are a mix of West Asian, Central Asian, and Northeast Asian ancestral elements, but primarily West Asian. This means most Turks have deep roots in Turkey and are descended from peoples like the Armenians and the Hittites who once lived in large numbers in that land. Some "Turks" in Turkey also have recent ancestry from the Balkans (e.g., Albanians, Bosnians) and Caucasus (e.g., Circassians) but have fully assimilated into Turkish culture. Some "Turks" have some recent Jewish (Israelite) ancestors."
Excerpts from Abstract:
The major components (haplogroups E3b, G, J, I, L, N, K2, and R1; 94.1%) are shared with European and neighboring Near Eastern populations and contrast with only a minor share of haplogroups related to Central Asian (C, Q and O; 3.4%), Indian (H, R2; 1.5%) and African (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) affinity. [...] high resolution SNP analysis provides evidence of a detectable yet weak signal (<9%) of recent paternal gene flow from Central Asia. The variety of Turkish haplotypes is witness to Turkey being both an important source and recipient of gene flow.
Below are Y-DNA haplogroups Cinnioğlu's team found among Anatolian Turks:
E1b1b1 = 10.7% (common in the Mediterranean region)
G = 10.9% (common in the Caucasus, also found in the Middle East)
I = 5.3% (common in Central Europe, the Western Caucasus, and the Balkans)
J1 = 9% (common in Arabia and Daghestan)
J2 = 24% (common in Western Asia and Southeastern Europe and also found in Central and South Asia)
K = 4.5% (common in Asia and the Caucasus)
L = 4.2% (common in India and Khorasan)
N = 3.8% (common in Eastern Europe and North Asia, including Siberia [e.g. Turkic-speaking Yakuts], the Altai Mountains region, and the Ural Mountains region - the article however did not consider N to come to Turkey's Turks from North Asia)
Q = 1.9% (common in North Asia including Northern Altaic peoples)
R1a = 6.9% (common in Central Asia, the Caucasus, Eastern Europe, and among Indo-Aryans)
R1b = 14.7% (common in Western Europe)
T = 2.5% (common in the Mediterranean, South Asia, and Northeastern Africa)
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HLA-A, HLA-B, and HLA-DRB1 allele distribution in a large Armenian population sample.
Matevosyan L, Chattopadhyay S, Madelian V, Avagyan S, Nazaretyan M, Hyussian A, Vardapetyan E, Arutunyan R, Jordan F.
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Human leukocyte antigen (HLA)-A, HLA-B, and HLA-DRB1 gene frequencies were investigated in 4279 unrelated Armenian bone marrow donors. HLA alleles were defined by using PCR amplification with sequence specific primers (PCR-SSP) high- and low-resolution kits. The aim of this study was to examine the HLA diversity at the high-resolution level in a large Armenian population sample, and to compare HLA allele group distribution in Armenian subpopulations. The most frequently observed alleles in the HLA class I were HLA-A*0201, A*0101, A*2402, A*0301, HLA-B*5101, HLA-B*3501, and B*4901. Among DRB1 alleles, high frequencies of DRB1*1104 and DRB1*1501 were observed, followed by DRB1*1101 and DRB1*1401. The most common three-locus haplotype found in the Armenian population was A*33-B*14-DRB1*01, followed by A*03-B*35-DRB1*01. Our results show a similar distribution of alleles in Armenian subpopulations from different countries, and from different regions of the Republics of Armenia and Karabagh. The low level of genetic distances between subpopulations indicates a high level of population homogeneity, and the genetic distances between Armenians and other populations show Armenians as a distinct ethnic group relative to others, reflecting the fact that Armenians have been an 'isolated population' throughout centuries. This study is the first comprehensive investigation of HLA-allele group distribution in a subset of Armenian populations, and the first to provide HLA-allele and haplotype frequencies at a high-resolution level. It is a valuable reference for organ transplantation and for future studies of HLA-associated diseases in Armenian populations.
Matevosyan L, Chattopadhyay S, Madelian V, Avagyan S, Nazaretyan M, Hyussian A, Vardapetyan E, Arutunyan R, Jordan F.
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Human leukocyte antigen (HLA)-A, HLA-B, and HLA-DRB1 gene frequencies were investigated in 4279 unrelated Armenian bone marrow donors. HLA alleles were defined by using PCR amplification with sequence specific primers (PCR-SSP) high- and low-resolution kits. The aim of this study was to examine the HLA diversity at the high-resolution level in a large Armenian population sample, and to compare HLA allele group distribution in Armenian subpopulations. The most frequently observed alleles in the HLA class I were HLA-A*0201, A*0101, A*2402, A*0301, HLA-B*5101, HLA-B*3501, and B*4901. Among DRB1 alleles, high frequencies of DRB1*1104 and DRB1*1501 were observed, followed by DRB1*1101 and DRB1*1401. The most common three-locus haplotype found in the Armenian population was A*33-B*14-DRB1*01, followed by A*03-B*35-DRB1*01. Our results show a similar distribution of alleles in Armenian subpopulations from different countries, and from different regions of the Republics of Armenia and Karabagh. The low level of genetic distances between subpopulations indicates a high level of population homogeneity, and the genetic distances between Armenians and other populations show Armenians as a distinct ethnic group relative to others, reflecting the fact that Armenians have been an 'isolated population' throughout centuries. This study is the first comprehensive investigation of HLA-allele group distribution in a subset of Armenian populations, and the first to provide HLA-allele and haplotype frequencies at a high-resolution level. It is a valuable reference for organ transplantation and for future studies of HLA-associated diseases in Armenian populations.
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Patrilocality and recent migrations have little impact on shaping patterns of genetic structure of the Armenian population.
Harutyunyan A, Khudoyan A, Yepiskoposyan L.
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In general, genetic distances between human populations (also within one ethnic group) are larger for the Y chromosome markers than for the mtDNA. It is usually explained by higher rate of female versus male migration due to the cultural practice of patrilocality, when women move to their husbands' residence after marriage. Recently found a reversed picture for the genetic variation in some ethno-territorial groups confirm the strict role of cultural traditions in shaping patterns of populations' genetic structure. To test the role of patrilocality for the genetic structure of the Armenianpopulation, we compared the Y chromosome and the mtDNA haplotype variations among and between geographical groups identified according to paternal (maternal) grandparental place of birth, from one side, and the populations currently living in the same geographical areas, from the other side. The results demonstrate that the Armenian population is regionally more structured for the Y chromosome than for the mtDNA. Additionally, in spite of expressed directivity of migration processes (caused by the phenomenon of patrilocality as well), the patterns of genetic variations for the populations of the same geographic areas remain without any significant changes during the last three generations.
Harutyunyan A, Khudoyan A, Yepiskoposyan L.
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In general, genetic distances between human populations (also within one ethnic group) are larger for the Y chromosome markers than for the mtDNA. It is usually explained by higher rate of female versus male migration due to the cultural practice of patrilocality, when women move to their husbands' residence after marriage. Recently found a reversed picture for the genetic variation in some ethno-territorial groups confirm the strict role of cultural traditions in shaping patterns of populations' genetic structure. To test the role of patrilocality for the genetic structure of the Armenianpopulation, we compared the Y chromosome and the mtDNA haplotype variations among and between geographical groups identified according to paternal (maternal) grandparental place of birth, from one side, and the populations currently living in the same geographical areas, from the other side. The results demonstrate that the Armenian population is regionally more structured for the Y chromosome than for the mtDNA. Additionally, in spite of expressed directivity of migration processes (caused by the phenomenon of patrilocality as well), the patterns of genetic variations for the populations of the same geographic areas remain without any significant changes during the last three generations.
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You copy-pasted too much Armenian academics. Not reliable...
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The ethnicity of the Academics has no bearing on the truth of their claims. That's what scientific peer-review is for. What matters is what they can prove, and clearly they were able to. So, clearly they have been judged (already) to be reliable.
Veritator could you explain that "Analysis of 89 biallelic polymorphisms in 523 Turkish Y chromosomes revealed 52 distinct haplotypes with considerable haplogroup substructure"
when this research has made an which are that 52 districs? could you give any source?
when this research has made an which are that 52 districs? could you give any source?
"This means most Turks have deep roots in Turkey and are descended from peoples like the Armenians and the Hittites who once lived in large numbers in that land. "
Hittites?? are they really existed in Anatolia during the Byzantine period?
by the way how many Turkish people are joined to that so called researches?
Hittites?? are they really existed in Anatolia during the Byzantine period?
by the way how many Turkish people are joined to that so called researches?
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Based on Gedmatch:
Armenian:
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Single Population Sharing:
Armenian 2
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Single Population Sharing:
Turkish from Trabzon:
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Single Population Sharing:
Random Turkish from Western part:
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Single Population Sharing:
Armenian:
#
| Population | Percent | |
| 1 | Caucasus | 49.9 |
| 2 | Gedrosia | 16.98 |
| 3 | Southwest_Asian | 13.96 |
| 4 | Atlantic_Med | 13.02 |
| 5 | North_European | 4.91 |
| 6 | Northwest_African | 0.71 |
| 7 | East_Asian | 0.31 |
| 8 | East_African | 0.2 |
Single Population Sharing:
| # | Population (source) | Distance |
| 1 | Armenian (Dodecad) | 6.16 |
| 2 | Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) | 6.74 |
| 3 | Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) | 6.91 |
| 4 | Assyrian (Dodecad) | 7.19 |
| 5 | Georgia_Jews (Behar) | 7.37 |
| 6 | Turks (Behar) | 8.05 |
| 7 | Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) | 8.42 |
| 8 | Turkish (Dodecad) | 8.42 |
| 9 | Armenians (Behar) | 10.13 |
| 10 | Iranian_Jews (Behar) | 11.12 |
| 11 | Iraq_Jews (Behar) | 11.94 |
| 12 | Druze (HGDP) | 12.21 |
| 13 | Cypriots (Behar) | 12.97 |
| 14 | Lebanese (Behar) | 13.97 |
| 15 | Kurds (Yunusbayev) | 13.99 |
| 16 | Kurd (Dodecad) | 15.32 |
| 17 | Iranian (Dodecad) | 16.06 |
| 18 | Syrians (Behar) | 17.93 |
| 19 | Iranians (Behar) | 19.02 |
| 20 | Kumyks (Yunusbayev) | 19.95 |
Armenian 2
#
| Population | Percent | |
| 1 | Caucasus | 50.02 |
| 2 | Gedrosia | 16.49 |
| 3 | Atlantic_Med | 15.41 |
| 4 | Southwest_Asian | 14.85 |
| 5 | North_European | 2.36 |
| 6 | South_Asian | 0.27 |
| 7 | Southeast_Asian | 0.25 |
| 8 | Northwest_African | 0.24 |
| 9 | East_Asian | 0.11 |
Single Population Sharing:
| # | Population (source) | Distance |
| 1 | Armenian (Dodecad) | 7.12 |
| 2 | Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) | 7.23 |
| 3 | Assyrian (Dodecad) | 7.24 |
| 4 | Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) | 8.22 |
| 5 | Georgia_Jews (Behar) | 8.67 |
| 6 | Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) | 9.9 |
| 7 | Turkish (Dodecad) | 10.27 |
| 8 | Turks (Behar) | 10.46 |
| 9 | Druze (HGDP) | 11.24 |
| 10 | Iranian_Jews (Behar) | 11.35 |
| 11 | Armenians (Behar) | 11.35 |
| 12 | Cypriots (Behar) | 11.53 |
| 13 | Iraq_Jews (Behar) | 11.57 |
| 14 | Lebanese (Behar) | 13.85 |
| 15 | Kurds (Yunusbayev) | 15.87 |
| 16 | Kurd (Dodecad) | 17.05 |
| 17 | Syrians (Behar) | 17.49 |
| 18 | Iranian (Dodecad) | 17.79 |
| 19 | Sephardic_Jews (Behar) | 18.99 |
| 20 | Jordanians (Behar) | 19.6 |
Turkish from Trabzon:
#
| Population | Percent | |
| 1 | Caucasus | 57.95 |
| 2 | Gedrosia | 14.45 |
| 3 | Southwest_Asian | 10.94 |
| 4 | Atlantic_Med | 10.89 |
| 5 | North_European | 5.16 |
| 6 | Northwest_African | 0.58 |
| 7 | South_Asian | 0.03 |
Single Population Sharing:
| # | Population (source) | Distance |
| 1 | Armenians (Behar) | 2.63 |
| 2 | Armenian (Dodecad) | 4.58 |
| 3 | Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) | 5.3 |
| 4 | Georgia_Jews (Behar) | 9.98 |
| 5 | Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) | 10.16 |
| 6 | Assyrian (Dodecad) | 10.58 |
| 7 | Turks (Behar) | 12.1 |
| 8 | Turkish (Dodecad) | 12.2 |
| 9 | Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) | 14.66 |
| 10 | Iranian_Jews (Behar) | 15.24 |
| 11 | Druze (HGDP) | 15.42 |
| 12 | Cypriots (Behar) | 15.64 |
| 13 | Iraq_Jews (Behar) | 16.77 |
| 14 | Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) | 19.02 |
| 15 | Adygei (HGDP) | 19.59 |
| 16 | Kurds (Yunusbayev) | 19.61 |
| 17 | Lebanese (Behar) | 19.88 |
| 18 | Balkars (Yunusbayev) | 19.96 |
| 19 | North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) | 20.29 |
| 20 | Kumyks (Yunusbayev) | 20.65 |
Random Turkish from Western part:
#
| Population | Percent | |
| 1 | Caucasus | 40.69 |
| 2 | Gedrosia | 15.91 |
| 3 | Atlantic_Med | 15.34 |
| 4 | Southwest_Asian | 11.44 |
| 5 | North_European | 8.31 |
| 6 | East_Asian | 4.17 |
| 7 | Siberian | 2.08 |
| 8 | Southeast_Asian | 1.46 |
| 9 | Northwest_African | 0.32 |
| 10 | South_Asian | 0.27 |
Single Population Sharing:
| # | Population (source) | Distance |
| 1 | Turkish (Dodecad) | 6.56 |
| 2 | Turks (Behar) | 7.23 |
| 3 | Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) | 12.84 |
| 4 | Lebanese (Behar) | 15.13 |
| 5 | Kurds (Yunusbayev) | 15.14 |
| 6 | Kurd (Dodecad) | 15.48 |
| 7 | Cypriots (Behar) | 15.61 |
| 8 | Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) | 15.82 |
| 9 | Georgia_Jews (Behar) | 15.84 |
| 10 | Iranian (Dodecad) | 15.89 |
| 11 | Armenian (Dodecad) | 16.09 |
| 12 | Assyrian (Dodecad) | 16.1 |
| 13 | Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) | 16.39 |
| 14 | Sephardic_Jews (Behar) | 16.73 |
| 15 | Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) | 16.87 |
| 16 | Druze (HGDP) | 17.62 |
| 17 | Iraq_Jews (Behar) | 17.85 |
| 18 | Iranian_Jews (Behar) | 17.92 |
| 19 | Ashkenazi (Dodecad) | 17.93 |
| 20 | Kumyks (Yunusbayev) | 18.06 |
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