Where does the Albanian language come from? [VIDEO]

Your comment might be very bold (takes balls to show you're a mental midget) but if you keep seething your head will be bald too.

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For the record that's quite some continuity far beyond Albania, least we talk about Illyrian samples. Sad I have to explain it to you when the images should be enough, but I saw how you couldn't even interpret the shit you posted.

Your ilk first was driding ottoman immigrants from the caucasus theories, and e1b african theories. Now for a while middle age immigrants from the mountains.

As a last favor for your mental misfortune, here is a riddle for you. How is the byzantine profile Greko-Albanian like if Albanians are mountain immigrants from the middle ages? Don't you see? It all ties up to the admixture needed to bring something Swiss Italian like or Albanian Montenegro like to look like the Albanian-mainlandGreek average. The middle age immigrants theory goes straight to the trash with any basic knowledge of byzantine history if one tries to account for the autosomal shift.

But anyways, who am I arguing with?
 
enter_tain said:
Wth are you going on about? All the Illyrian Montenegro samples are from 1 location. There is plenty of R1b in Croatia. Only difference between Croatia/Albania is different % frequencies in the clades of R1b/J2B2.

(Albanians have more basal clades of R1b, while Croatians have more basal clades of J2B2).
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Croatian samples don't have much R1b, and much of it is R-L2. While we have M-269 piling up on the Dardanian border. This points to Dardanians being similar to Paeonians and Macedonians, except they had a Illyrian layer. Just as linguistic evidence shows, Illyrian influence in western Dardania and Thracian in eastern. There has to be an actual Dardanian substratum that unites these two spheres together, and that's R1b. That's what I am seeing, the results show a transition zone.

Autosomially there is a shift/transition occurring in these Kukes sample, half of the samples show Albanian like mixture, not the case on the Croatian sample where they are all north Italian like. I am speculating this is Dardanian mixture, the relationship will become clear once the Macedonian autosomal comparisons are worked out by Lukas. Geography is key.

Shkodra and Montenegrin Illyrians so far, J2b only, the only sample from proper Illyrian region, remember that buddy?
 
Archetype0ne said:
Your comment might be very bold (takes balls to show you're a mental midget) but if you keep seething your head will be bald too.

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For the record that's quite some continuity far beyond Albania, least we talk about Illyrian samples. Sad I have to explain it to you when the images should be enough, but I saw how you couldn't even interpret the shit you posted.

Your ilk first was driding ottoman immigrants from the caucasus theories, and e1b african theories. Now for a while middle age immigrants from the mountains.

As a last favor for your mental misfortune, here is a riddle for you. How is the byzantine profile Greko-Albanian like if Albanians are mountain immigrants from the middle ages? Don't you see? It all ties up to the admixture needed to bring something Swiss Italian like or Albanian Montenegro like to look like the Albanian-mainlandGreek average. The middle age immigrants theory goes straight to the trash with any basic knowledge of byzantine history if one tries to account for the autosomal shift.

But anyways, who am I arguing with?
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You are debating with a sockpuppet toddler who produces the most absurd and outlandish linguistic notions, none of which hold up to further analysis.
 
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Archetype0ne said:
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One is not like the others. There seem to be two clusters.

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Archetype0ne said:
Your comment might be very bold (takes balls to show you're a mental midget) but if you keep seething your head will be bald too.

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For the record that's quite some continuity far beyond Albania, least we talk about Illyrian samples. Sad I have to explain it to you when the images should be enough, but I saw how you couldn't even interpret the shit you posted.

Your ilk first was driding ottoman immigrants from the caucasus theories, and e1b african theories. Now for a while middle age immigrants from the mountains.

As a last favor for your mental misfortune, here is a riddle for you. How is the byzantine profile Greko-Albanian like if Albanians are mountain immigrants from the middle ages? Don't you see? It all ties up to the admixture needed to bring something Swiss Italian like or Albanian Montenegro like to look like the Albanian-mainlandGreek average. The middle age immigrants theory goes straight to the trash with any basic knowledge of byzantine history if one tries to account for the autosomal shift.

But anyways, who am I arguing with?
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You wish you could have my balls inside puny head, you'd be blessed trust me, it would be your greatest achievement.

Your have lots of dumb questions, and you expect me to father you. Here's a dumb question back. Are Vlach native to Greece and Albania? Based on your pseudo interpretations, they must have sprouted from the ground. You make dump comparisons. The current populations are leveled and mixed with the prior layer(s). Greeks happen to have similar mixture as Albanians from similar circumstances, but we are not one and the same.
 
Remember when mount was trying to "mock" me for tying Albanians ~ ancient Macedonians genetically. Now the closest samples are Albanian. :LOL::LOL::LOL:

Archetype0ne said:
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Archetype0ne said:
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broder said:
Well the Romanian theory that was bouncing around is dead in the water now. In all honesty I am super surprised by V13. I used to think that we would find it in regions like North Macedonia, North Albania etc.

Gava/Channeled Ware doesn't make sense anymore. For example the Ulanci group did have Channeled Ware influence during early Iron Age but yet we still got a CTS7556 sample from there from that time period. We need a new model for V13, me thinks. Whatever it is, it's super impressive considering they came to dominate the southern Balkan region. Getting pushed west as Thracian influence does make sense, however.
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You do know that Kapitan Andreevo/Psenicevo where it was found is archaeologically considered a direct descendand of Gava but via Central Balkans Mediana/Belegis-Gava II. And generally these peoples Bronze Age ancestors were originators of the Urnfielder Culture. In Bronze Age they didn't even have proper burials, they scattered their ashes.

In Bronze Age, there was huge diversity even in one country, there could be two cultures next to each other that had nothing to do with each other culturally. Same thing can happen with overwhelm samples from South-East Romania/Moldavia. It was already clear that area is too East.

Also, Ulanci ran away from Channeled-Ware, they didn't have that kind of admixture. The Western spinoffs of Channeled-Ware were more conservative people than Psenicevo-Babadag who are classified as Eastern Hallstattian and during that time they did start using inhumation from Early Iron Age.

In addition, to me it looks Albanian as a language was brought by this Western spinoffs of Channeled Ware. It's a strong candidate at this moment. Lazaridis bringing dozens of the samples is a great thing, his conclusions on PIE, Balkan IE is debatable, the paper from this aspect was extremely hyped and the conclusions are weak not succint.
 
Hawk said:
You do know that Kapitan Andreevo/Psenicevo where it was found is archaeologically considered a direct descendand of Gava but via Central Balkans Mediana/Belegis-Gava II. And generally these peoples Bronze Age ancestors were originators of the Urnfielder Culture. In Bronze Age they didn't even have proper burials, they scattered their ashes.

Also, Ulanci ran away from Channeled-Ware, they didn't have that kind of admixture. The Western spinoffs of Channeled-Ware were more conservative people than Psenicevo-Babadag who are classified as Eastern Hallstattian and during that time they did start using inhumation from Early Iron Age.

In addition, to me it looks Albanian as a language was brought by this Western spinoffs of Channeled Ware. It's a strong candidate at this moment. Lazaridis bringing dozens of the samples is a great thing, his conclusions on PIE, Balkan IE is debatable, the paper from this aspect was extremely hyped and the conclusions are weak not succint.
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Your lineage was irrelevant up until a few hundred years ago. Get over it. Medieval Albanians sampled had 0 EV-13. In fact, neither did Greeks who are high in EV-13.

"No it was west Gava-east Scythian-west Kapitan-north Urnfield"

We looked all over the Balkans and the only EV-13 hotspot was close to Turkish border.

Hawk said:
to me it looks Albanian as a language was brought by this Western spinoffs of Channeled Ware.
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Albanian is related to Messapian. There are 0 linguists who deny this. Nothing to do with your garbage.
 
enter_tain said:
Your lineage was irrelevant up until a few hundred years ago. Get over it. Medieval Albanians sampled had 0 EV-13. In fact, neither did Greeks who are high in EV-13.

"No it was west Gava-east Scythian-west Kapitan-north Urnfield"

We looked all over the Balkans and the only EV-13 hotspot was close to Turkish border.
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Medieval Albanian samples also have R1a and I2a, Slavic lineages. :LOL:
 
I love how this mythical "Gava" culture now include south-east Bulgaria. Remember the Daco-Scythians? ������������������������

These guys are making fake territories all the time. And they keep expanding the territory. But it's not just forums. Orel did this with the whole "Daco-Moesian" crap and now Matzinger with "east Alpine". Just make up fake people/cultures because the current reality doesn't fit your narrative.
 
Leka (Paulician leader)


Leka (Lekas in Skylitzes Continuatus) was a Paulician leader in the 11th century Byzantine Balkans in the territory of contemporary Bulgaria.
He is mentioned in the History of Michael Attaleiates and in Skylitzes Continuatus partly based on information from Attaleiates. Lekas was a member of the Paulician Christian sect. He lived in Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and was married to a Pecheneg woman.[1] The Pechenegs north of the Danube in the 11th century had been influenced by Paulician ideas. In alliance with them and the Paulician leader Dobromir (Dobromiros in Skylitzes Continuatus) he launched a revolt in the eastern Balkans in 1078-79 in an attempt to become an independent ruler. In the revolt he killed Michael, bishop of Serdica (Sofia). Dobromir expanded in the region of Mesembria (coastal Bulgaria).[2] As the new Emperor Nikephoros III Botaneiates organized an army to send against them, they accepted the rule of the emperor and were given many gifts and privileges.
The mention of the Paulician Leka is the first mention of the Albanian name Leka and indicates that this individual may have been an Albanian.[2] As such, it is the first reference of a medieval Albanian by name by the same author (Attaleiates) who mentions medieval Albanians for the first time in Byzantine literature. The attestation of a Paulician Albanian suggests that Paulicians had become popular among Albanian groups. Toponymy between Sofia and Plovdiv in the 10th and 11th centuries indicates that (Proto-)Albanian populations had migrated from their native lands to the eastern Balkans before the era of Leka.[3] The next mention of the name Leka is three centuries later in the names of the brothers Leka (ancestor of Lekë Dukagjini) and Pal Dukagjini who held the city of Lezha.[4]


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(Paulician_leader)#cite_note-FOOTNOTESaldzhiev2019668-3

https://czasopisma.uni.lodz.pl/sceranea/article/view/6744/6334




Hmmmmmmmmm
Hristo's conclusion is backward, because Albanian autochonous cannot be questioned, he thinks an early group of Albanians migrated to western Bulgaria.:LOL:
 
PaleoRevenge said:
Leka (Paulician leader)


Leka (Lekas in Skylitzes Continuatus) was a Paulician leader in the 11th century Byzantine Balkans in the territory of contemporary Bulgaria.
He is mentioned in the History of Michael Attaleiates and in Skylitzes Continuatus partly based on information from Attaleiates. Lekas was a member of the Paulician Christian sect. He lived in Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and was married to a Pecheneg woman.[1] The Pechenegs north of the Danube in the 11th century had been influenced by Paulician ideas. In alliance with them and the Paulician leader Dobromir (Dobromiros in Skylitzes Continuatus) he launched a revolt in the eastern Balkans in 1078-79 in an attempt to become an independent ruler. In the revolt he killed Michael, bishop of Serdica (Sofia). Dobromir expanded in the region of Mesembria (coastal Bulgaria).[2] As the new Emperor Nikephoros III Botaneiates organized an army to send against them, they accepted the rule of the emperor and were given many gifts and privileges.
The mention of the Paulician Leka is the first mention of the Albanian name Leka and indicates that this individual may have been an Albanian.[2] As such, it is the first reference of a medieval Albanian by name by the same author (Attaleiates) who mentions medieval Albanians for the first time in Byzantine literature. The attestation of a Paulician Albanian suggests that Paulicians had become popular among Albanian groups. Toponymy between Sofia and Plovdiv in the 10th and 11th centuries indicates that (Proto-)Albanian populations had migrated from their native lands to the eastern Balkans before the era of Leka.[3] The next mention of the name Leka is three centuries later in the names of the brothers Leka (ancestor of Lekë Dukagjini) and Pal Dukagjini who held the city of Lezha.[4]


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leka_(Paulician_leader)#cite_note-FOOTNOTESaldzhiev2019668-3

https://czasopisma.uni.lodz.pl/sceranea/article/view/6744/6334




Hmmmmmmmmm
Hristo's conclusion is backward, because Albanian autochonous cannot be questioned, he thinks an early group of Albanians migrated to western Bulgaria.:LOL:
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Have you ever opened a history book in your life? All those areas were part of the Roman/Byzantine Empire. It's like moving from New York to Los Angeles.

The Principality of Arbanon was already established in the late 1100s in Albania. Who is migrating where you troll?
 
Excine said:
Enough, just enough of your pseudo-linguistic nonsense.

Ruj < from South Slavic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/руј "sumac" technically but used basically for all reddish features: red earth, all red shrubs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rujevica,_Pljevlja and even as a name Rujevic (someone who has reddish features) . Ruaj is the Tosk variant of ruoj which would be more likeruonj in late Proto-Albanian, hence it's impossible as an etymology for this mountain. There are plenty of Ruj- based toponyms in former Yugoslav regions. It's not uncommon.
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Besides my earlier point that, it should be occurring in Bulgaria as Ruyevo or something in that line. Because of the awesome DNA data I forgot that an almost exact mountain name occurs in Macedonian-Bulgarian border quite bit further down. Ruen mountain, in the same region of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruen_(mountain)

I'd say my speculation, as much unconventional as it is, is looking pretty damn good. Make a Rujevica out that.
 
enter_tain said:
Have you ever opened a history book in your life? All those areas were part of the Roman/Byzantine Empire. It's like moving from New York to Los Angeles.

The Principality of Arbanon was already established in the late 1100s in Albania. Who is migrating where you troll?
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You can't do basic math, as the timeline confuses you. And you clearly can't grasp space. Sofia to Kruja is almost the same as Vermosh to Konispol, with less mountains in the way. Now go back to cleaning bathrooms kid.
 
PaleoRevenge said:
You can't do basic math, as the timeline confuses you. And you clearly can't grasp space. Sofia to Kruja is almost the same as Vermosh to Konispol, with less mountains in the way. Now go back to cleaning bathrooms kid.
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Do you know what the Via Egnatia was? Do you know what it did?

Go open a book for once in your miserable life.
 
enter_tain said:
Do you know what the Via Egnatia was? Do you know what it did?

Go open a book for once in your miserable life.
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Hey retard, Via Egnatia sped up transportation, it did not slow it down. You are arguing against your point, LA to NYC. Stick to your bread and butter, cleaning up school bathrooms.

And not to confuse you further, but Via Egnatia did not pass through Plovdiv and Sofia, you want to look it up and save face like unEuropean that you are?
 
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