I was busy and traveling back then, now i have taken a better look. Now i see that i have already worked on this study, but i have not finished it because i switched to another study that was more interesting to me.
So i never reached to this Balkarian sample. But now when i have take a look at it i have to say that i partially agree with you.
So, his DYS390 is 24 instead of 23 but that can be random mutation, then DYS340 there is multicopy difference but since its fast mutating marker that is also not that of a big deal.
But his Ycall actually is also very off-modal, he has 20-19 while most of M205 have 19-20, so reverse, and 20-19 is yet unseen among J2-M205 in general.
Therefore there is too many differences even on this low number of markers to ever conclude that he is M205, and there is no connection whatsoever to our clade.
No this is an error in the file they switched the STR names, all other samples also have 20-19 and that is impossible as the opposite are the values. So he must have 19-20 too. 390=24 and 460=10
you are late to all this.
Oh no, I heard of E-V13, R1a etc. 10 years ago, likely before any of you here..
Btw Arnaut simply means Albanian in Ottoman time. There is not a single proof why Urosevic should be trusted since we have much earlier memories also we know it because of land distribution. Urosevic was late...
I don't know about Kosovo much nor do I care. I have nothing to do with Kosovo when it comes to ancestry.. I never read Urosevic.. If you have no close relatives among Serbs then you have different path.
Do you know that we have none responsive Dema surname from Albania tested J2-M205 on 23andme, and there is another 23andme Albanian from Montenegro most likely Krici subclade. Also somewhat none responsive.
There are few M205 in S.Albania but they are different. In Aromanians from Andon Poci one such haplotype i na study, I guess some of your might be related to him..
Regarding Albanian language i would suggest learning it to both you and Nebojsha, they say after learning Albanian every next language is way easier to learn.
That's more of an urban myth. Albanian alphabet has 36 letters that represent 36 phonemes, like 30 in Serbo-Croatian. But French with far less letters has alot more different sounds, not to speak of Danish in both of which I am also fluent.
But Albanian is comparatively harder than most European languages.
I likely know more already of Albanian grammar than you do. After all, I'm a superman in that department and because of that among other things, I don't answer to any Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Albanians or other peoples which only do what others tell them to do, nor I care much about your affairs..
You came to t r o l l me because you thought I was some Serb who would be upset with Y-DNA result. Some of my "cousins" might be upset because they are Serbs but I am glad I am not of Slavic hg, unlike most Serbs of E-V13 I like my haplogroup, and precisely because I am "Serb" and not Serb I am interested in it. And when it comes to my super brainpower, I was thinking what in terms of my ancestry might distinguish me from your sea of averageness. Obviously its not so likely to be the Slavic or Paleo-Balkanic.. It is not only that but very different principles..
Btw you and Bachus are dead wrong.. I tracked down the ancestor of my Hungarian cousin. The documentary ancestor of that family was first mentioned in Mezősas in 1628. What I found is that among those who received the Coat of Arms from Prince of Transylvania there were in addition to him undeniably no less than 8 other people from Cumania (only counting surnames peculiar to Cumania), and for most ethnic Cuman origin can be argued, which was very weird as few years before that none of them were there and in 1628. they are more than 50 % there.. Why? 4 years earlier the same Prince answered the request of Cumans from there and he confirmed their privileges that dated from 1539. Why in Mezősas? Because same group served Bocskai in 1605. during his uprising for a short time during his revolt precisely in Mezősas. It is known they were there for a short time, but it makes sense they came back in 1628. because they had experience with the area.. My cousins surname was rare at that time but it does occur in the middle of Cumania in 1592., in fact as one person then had same name and was young at the time he could easily be the same person as the one in 1628.. Anyway the grandson of the guy from 1628 was one of the main guys in Cumania in 1702. after the Wiena War and his greatgrandson was present when the diploma from 1624. was brought up in 1717. because Cumans lost privileges in 1702 (they were returned in 1742). The family settled in the place where the tested is from only in 1768., but they were present before that in Cumania, and originally it seems they are from there (1592.) before the turbulent 17th century..
As this surname was not mentioned in 1571., 21 years before, and it was formed of fathers name, the only 2 suitable persons descended of certain Cuman families...:cool-v:
In the early 17th century Cuman was still spoken there but depopulation due to wars starting in 1595 had caused migrations. That is why even though the tested was from Karcag and his surname recorded there in 1592 I could not assume automatically they are connected because Karcag was depopulated in 1618. but soon after that in 1624. Cumans enrolled for the Prince of Transylvania, and this family was prominent in it, as they were when they came back to Cumania after the wars ended in late 17th century.
And because this community had privileges for centuries in early 17th century they were still very compact ethnically. These is not some Illyrians/Slavs or whatever 1500-2000 years ago, this is where reliable documents say what the facts are..
So I trust member of this family when he said in the video of Turkish TV about Cumans "it is tradition of our (Cuman) forefathers"... The only possible reserve I might have is if the guy tested is not of this family (even so he'd be from the same place), but I don't think that is possible, in records I did not see any other family with this surname there.. Besides I will test someone else from that family as that guy tested long ago was not responsive..
And ofc, back to you once last time how do I know "this mutation" is important. Well for V13 accepted and established modal at dys385b is 18. Same goes for most Albanian BY4461, same for Swedish Z38456. Hungarian has 19 but other from Cluj has this modal 18.
Meanwhile of commercially tested and from the studies in the Balkans I know no less than 14 hapotypes of my cluster and absolutely every single one of them has 385b=17. That is clearly an innovation, a back mutation. Newer one obviously. If Hungarian is Cuman and he is 99% so are all Balkanites automatically (and generally they look similar to each other suggesting TMRCA of about 1000 ybp), but ofc I have some proof for us in the Balkans as well.. I make exception for the ones found in Pecenjevce (and their cousin in Sofia), they are Pecheneg.. Simultaneously as said Northern haplotypes being from N.Transylvania and being close geographically to other Hungarians of the E-Y81971 clade, being not far from Ukrainian who are other Z17107* (Z38456-), In Lavov there is likely anonymous haplotype of this other Russian Z38456- clade too.. It does clearly indicate where Z17107 comes from, you have 4 Z17107+, Z38456- in the Middle Carpathian region.. And my cluster came in Nomad invasions anywhere from around 1000-1240..
I can't prove we came from the East..yet.. (I might in the future depending on some results) but I can postulate and be correct as we have cousin in Cluj that somebody joined Pechenegs in 1068. there when they burned the fortress there and subsequently in 1092. when Cumans defeated the Pechenegs a bunch of these likely switched sides, those that didnt are found in Pecenjevce.
So I think I might be of high quality likely precisely because my ancestors arrived to Balkans with Cumans.. This Cuman quality unlike the Balkan averageness is something worthy to be worked on and revived.. After all look at the Dasht-i Kipchak and compare it to your countries.
So much for your "99 % of no connection" or whoever else's, it's more 99 % of certain connection.. For some of my relatives I might want to prove connection with this local family from Medieval, but like all Serbs who are not of Slavic/Germanic origin there is little interest. And that is understandable. After all once you remove the linguistic factor and the religious mumbo-jumbo that formed these modern nations what is there left?? Something else, and I do actually encourage people to act upon their Y-DNA results, and of lets say people of Slavic ancestry to incorporate elements of "naopagan" lore in their lives etc.