Inner_Vision, the kind of Islam that you advocate, that rejects science and other areas of study is a perfect example of how the interpretation of Islam has radicalised during the past centuries. At the peak of the Islamic Empire, in Baghdad, the intellectual capital of this empire, there was such a thing called as the house of wisdom. There islamic intellectuals gathered and embraced greek culture, Plato and Aristotle( whom were shunned away by the christians in Europe as blasfamus writers), Hindu mathematics, Persian culture, and developed during these times Math, Trigonometry, Astronomy, Medicine, even catarac operations. Now how could that be possible if these guys were thinking as you do? Discarting Darwinism for example. For them, they saw no problem in embracing Plato and Aristotle even though they were muslims and followed the Kuran and the beleif in Allah.
I think you are not following my posts .... Islam is perfectly harmonius with the Science(More with the Modern Science ....) is the basis of my posts here.... (More with the Modern Science ....) ... & as already mentioned by bossel ....
This was partly done with the help of Islamic scientists, in Spain there was a time when Christian, Jewish & Islamic scientists even worked together (before some Christians decided to get rid of the others). Up to the 15th/16th century, Islamic science was way ahead of Christian Europe.
.. on the other hand ...... Darwinism is totally unscientific theory .... that i've explained earlier & that will make sense to you , only if you have Some basic knowledge of Bio Chemistry & if anyone still follows the Darwinism i consider him *.. .....* for that Reason. ( Rock will respond to this again ..Lol )
Just for the Record again....as i told before that me Medical Student , studying in one of the oldest Medical Schools of south east asia ...... &for this reason i am concerned with The Science very well ..... & i love the work of Ein-Stein ..( awesome Mind ...) * Max Plank , (In Physics ..) ,Keith L. More (in Embryology .... btw this Guy embraced Islam after seeing the Verses of Qu'ran mentioning the basic transitions of human foetus within womb .. which was obviously not possible to explain 1400 yrs ago) & back in school days was used to appreciate Darwin aswell ..... until i found out the weak basis of it which obviously Darwin never knew(No electron microscope were there at that time .... u know it ..! ). Similarly Socratese , Aristotle & Galileo are considered respectable among Muslims just because of their work which has been useful to the humanity .In short , everyone who tries to
Explore things is actually doing the Purpose of his Creation & therefore i like him/her ... (i 've told this before aswell ....)
If you want ppl to open their eyes to Islam, or to any other religion, your line of argument should go something like there is a lot out in the world that humans have figured out, but in order to complement our ignorance we have to get closer to god so that we can realize how his presence and almighty watever has made our world work in this this and this way. I mean to me this seems a more compelling argument.
this is one good piece of advice ..Thanks .... but still i would like you to follow my previous post .... Darwinism Is unscientific . & as i mentioned earlier i was used to be Evolutionist myself back in school days ..& was used to explain & defend this to my Friends but later in Medical College, the BioChemistryunveiled the Reality i.e. Evolution is Impossible.
Also, another problem with Islam, it has failed to contemporise.
Well ..Dear ..its not a Problem ....Islam is the Only true ( the Natural ) Religion of all human Beings .Its a Matter Of Fact .....
A second problem, Islam is not centralised. Who am I supposed to beleive on which is the correct Interpretation. Should I be a sunni or shiite
Well again ..My daer ..this is not a Problem ... the conflicts between sunni & shi'a are minor & such conflicts help us to Understand our Religion better.Wel .. there are some people far from religion who try to descriminate between these two but every ratinal Muslim knows that this is not a problem as we were told about this already by our Prophete (PBUH) .Anyways,I wonder (but Glad ...!) what sorta problem a non-muslim can have with these ...
Should I beleive in sacrificing myself so that I can go to heaven and have 77 or 7 virgins, which due to some translation error, may in fact be raisins.
What are you trying to say ...?? Explain it & also give the reference to the context .
Should I make my wife wear a veil or not?
This upto you & your wife , that how much both of you can follow the Islamic teachings. btw , this is purly the Question of a mUslim .
should I just find my own interpreation ?
yeah .. one can ..but that must not be against the teachings of Qu'ran & Sunnah.
If you would have come here and began your agument in such a manner, maybe someone would have been influenced, not me, I have deep agnostic/atheistic roots that have spoiled me forever.
First thing is , i don't come here to preach my religion , but while answering your question or in other words discussing things here i've to tell you the basics of islam .. which one must know before he accepts or neglects ,which is his personal Business.
well for agnostic ... sometimes in life everyone has to Believe without Clue like just for example if a patient comes to a Doctor , then Whatever doctor diagnoses & treats .....the patient will have no idea of it .. all he has to do ..is to believe in the Doctor that he knows . The patient will not have the slightest of the clue whats going on ..... .And i know something like this must have happened to you when you 've had to believe without Clue.On the other hand , we have Clues for God' s existence ....... though we can't reach the exact Nature of God ..but still ponder over the phenomena all around you see the signs sincerely .. You will find him.
But instead you posted some huge exerpts from some lady and highliting in red Allaha nd Quran, which is sure to shun ppl away, and discarted ppl's views, and didn't try to incorporate them or at least try to find sm compromise.
I'm deeply impressed with your Concern but dear compromising with the Darwinism would mean compromising with the Religion , with the Bio chemistry & with the ethics.So, i'm sorry for this.
Well anyways, just my thoughts on the topic, I don't mean to offend anyone by my words. I beleive I didn't insult anyone or their belifs, just makin an argument based on my observations. So yea, hmmm, have fun and all.
Liked your post . Yet again , jsut for the sake of record, Confliction never bother me .If one wants to Learn he must Listen to the other Party.To get influenced by it or not is your own Persoanl Decision into which not a single human can interfere.
