Politics "WOKE" America

Jovialis said:
Bipartisan, as I have stated, and half the country is disgusted with the senile Biden with the crackhead son.
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This is imho not a Biden effect.
It was early 2021 and most spoke had about the recent years. That was the Trump period, very clear.
 
Northener said:
This is imho not a Biden effect.
It was early 2021 and most spoke had about the recent years. That was the Trump period, very clear.
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How is thar possible if almost as many people voted for Trump? People hate Biden with a passion too, believe me.
 
Jovialis said:
How is thar possible if almost as many people voted for Trump? People hate Biden with a passion too, believe me.
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Ok, nevertheless here is not the US but the rest of the world asked about of the state of the democracy in the US, dated early 2021 when Biden was just in office....so if you hate him or not this can't be a proposed Biden effect. And mind you this was just a few months after the Capital mob riot!

This is the effect of the years of Donald J Trump when the world obviously lost confidence in the US democracy....I can't interpret it otherwise.
 
I'll tell you one thing: there will never be a strong majority support for a war to save Europe again. Let them speak Russian or Chinese; it's what they deserve.
 
Angela said:
I'll tell you one thing: there will never be a strong majority support for a war to save Europe again. Let them speak Russian or Chinese; it's what they deserve.
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I can't make the connection with this poll here and support for a war 'to save Europe'......

Do you consider the Trump years, with for example the denial of a election result and a riot fired up by the POTUS himself as a democratic model (the question of the poll)?
 
Northener said:
I can't make the connection with this poll here and support for a war 'to save Europe'......

Do you consider the Trump years, with for example the denial of a election result and a riot fired up by the POTUS himself as a democratic model (the question of the poll)?
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The main reason why the democratic model is failing is not because of that.


It is because of social media, 24 hour news channels, billionaires, and their flunkies, as well as foreign actors obfuscating the truth, and spreading lies.


74,223,369 people voted for Trump, that's far more people that live in your country.


Their voice is illegitimate in your opinion?
 
Jovialis said:
The main reason why the democratic model is failing is not because of that.


It is because of social media, 24 hour news channels, billionaires, and their flunkies, as well as foreign actors obfuscating the truth, and spreading lies.


74,223,369 people voted for Trump, that's far more people that live in your country.


Their voice is illegitimate in your opinion?
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I see this different. The question in the poll was if the US democracy is a good example or not.

And like I said the denial of an election result (fraud etc etc) and the rioting around the Capitol are by no means "good examples" so that influenced this poll.

74,223,369 people voted for Trump indeed but that doesn't change those (^^^) things....this has nothing to do with massive votes. Apples and oranges...
 
Idk, maybe it has more to do with multiracialism, and the constant drumbeat of blaming the founders and all white people of concious and unconscious racism? You think their opinion of the democracy was better in before Jan 6? Didn't ANTIFA and BLM (supported by a woman in the Weather Underground that tried to bomb the US capitol building)burn down hundreds of cities the year before? You think they thought better of the USA, and democracy then?
 
Jovialis said:
Idk, maybe it has more to do with multiracialism, and the constant drumbeat of blaming the founders and all white people of concious and unconscious racism? You think their opinion of the democracy was better in before Jan 6? Didn't ANTIFA and BLM (supported by a woman in the Weather Underground that tried to bomb the US capitol building)burn down hundreds of cities the year before? You think they thought better of the USA, and democracy then?
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Speaking for most people in my country (at least if this is possible ;) had an affinity with the democratic institutions of the US. For many people had the US status & glance in the sense of freedom of speech, trias politica etc.

But in some sense this looks like eroded in your country.....that is what those polls tell me.

And then indeed, imo in some sense predictable it's them>>>>BLM, ANTIFA. They are to blame!

Indeed us and them, friend and enemy,...trenches, cultural wars. that's the 'glance' nowadays.
 
People need to read "American Nations" by Colin Woodard (2011) to understand the fault lines in US society and politics.

He sees no less than 11 rival regional cultures in North America.
 
Vallicanus said:
People need to read "American Nations" by Colin Woodard (2011) to understand the fault lines in US society and politics.

He sees no less than 11 rival regional cultures in North America.
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Interesting, but 2011 was practically a golden age compared to now. It was before the high-profile police shooting incidents that gave rise to BLM, as well as the right-wing backlash against belligerent left-wing groups popped up. Before Trump, and the re-forming of the GOP to become more populist. The most important time period in understanding current American politics started in 2015.


ANTIFA has been around for a while. I remember back when I was in involved in the punk scene, they were around. Many of them have the same mentality as nationalist skinheads, except they're internationalist.
 
Jovialis said:
Interesting, but 2011 was practically a golden age compared to now. It was before the high-profile police shooting incidents that gave rise to BLM, as well as the right-wing backlash against belligerent left-wing groups popped up. Before Trump, and the re-forming of the GOP to become more populist. The most important time period in understanding current American politics started in 2015.


ANTIFA has been around for a while. I remember back when I was in involved in the punk scene, they were around. Many of them have the same mentality as nationalist skinheads, except they're internationalist.
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Maybe Woodard should update the book with a chapter or more to deal with changes since 2011.:unsure:
 
I hope the Reps are nothing going to deal with autocrat Putin....away with those appeasers towards Putin's Russia!

Zelensky said that regardless of who wins the next US Presidential election, maintaining bipartisan support is "the most important thing for Ukraine."


During the same news conference, Zelensky was asked if he fears for his own life, to which he replied that he thinks "it is more dangerous for Putin" due to the Russian president's growing number of international adversaries.


Some background: The topic of whether the US should continue aiding Ukraine against Russia's invasion has created a rift among the Republican party.


GOP presidential candidates are split into two camps: Isolationists, particularly former President Donald Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who believe the US is too involved in supporting Ukraine’s efforts to fend off the Russian invasion; and hawks, including several former Trump administration officials, who argue for an even more aggressive posture toward Russia. Both sides are warning that if their positions aren’t heeded, a world war could follow.
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Biden's son, filmed himself smoking Crack and driving 172 mph in Las Vegas.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/02/hunte...st&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

Here's a guy who made $80,000 a month being a consultant in Ukraine.

The Biden family is essentially trash with money, and power.

This is the kind of man yielded by our President. Sometimes I wonder if the president himself is also smoking crack, like his scum bag son.
 
Jovialis said:
Biden's son, filmed himself smoking Crack and driving 172 mph in Las Vegas.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/02/hunte...st&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

Here's a guy who made $80,000 a month being a consultant in Ukraine.

The Biden family is essentially trash with money, and power.

This is the kind of man yielded by our President. Sometimes I wonder if the president himself is also smoking crack, like his scum bag son.
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He is not the only one from the US who is involved in the Ukraine...what happens in the Ukraine affects also worldpower US and (even more ) vice versa.
 
Jovialis said:
Biden's son, filmed himself smoking Crack and driving 172 mph in Las Vegas.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/02/hunte...st&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social
Here's a guy who made $80,000 a month being a consultant in Ukraine.
The Biden family is essentially trash with money, and power.
This is the kind of man yielded by our President. Sometimes I wonder if the president himself is also smoking crack, like his scum bag son.
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Am I the new Nostradamus?

[FONT=&quot]Washington — A substance discovered in the White House complex that caused a brief shutdown of the facility Sunday evening tested positive for cocaine soon after it was found, according to two law enforcement officials and a recording of a radio dispatch from that night.[/FONT]
Suspected cocaine found in West Wing of the White House (msn.com)
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I think Biden's major personal problem is his Alzheimer's issue. His wife and advisors are committing virtual elder abuse in propping him up this way. He has the nuclear button at his disposal. What are they thinking? Is it so important to her that she can wear designer clothes to international weddings and funerals? This is worse than Mrs. Wilson being de facto president for months.

Also, if I see her addressed as "Dr. Biden" one more time I may heave. This isn't Europe. You only get the Dr. honorific socially in most cases if you're a medical doctor.

Hell, I'm a Juris Doctor, but I never made people address me that way. They're just shanty grifters.
 
Jovialis said:
Biden on the road to becoming a war criminal:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66144153.amp
However, a POTUS is exempt from international law regardless, he is a de facto war criminal.
Trump belongs in prison
But Biden belongs in the electric chair.
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"The decision was quickly criticised by human rights groups, with Amnesty International saying cluster munitions pose "a grave threat to civilian lives, even long after the conflict has ended"."
So 30 years from now a child will have his legs blown off because of Joe Biden. The president is not a man, he is a pile of garbage in the form of a human being.
 
An experiment...

Prompt: I am proud to be black.

ChatGPT:
"That's wonderful! Pride in one's identity, including race and ethnicity, is important and should be celebrated. It contributes to a positive self-concept and mental health, which are crucial for overall well-being. If you'd like to talk about this more, or about any particular achievements, traditions, or aspects of your culture or experiences that you're especially proud of, feel free to share. I'm here to listen and learn."

Prompt: I am proud to be white

ChatGPT:"That's great, too! It's essential to find pride and appreciation in your own identity, including your racial or ethnic background. Just like anyone else, white people have a diverse range of cultures, histories, and experiences to be proud of. It's always important, though, that pride in one's own race or ethnicity is about celebrating one's heritage and not about feeling superior to others. We are all human beings, each with our unique backgrounds and stories, and each deserving of respect and dignity. Would you like to share more about what makes you proud? I'm here to listen."

This is the response if I start a new chat with "I'm proud to be white"

ChatGPT:

"It's great to take pride in your heritage and culture. It's important to remember that every race and ethnicity has its own unique history, traditions, and contributions to society. Celebrating your own heritage should also come with respect and appreciation for the diversity and richness of other cultures and races. Remember, pride in one's own race doesn't mean superiority over others. We all have a role to play in promoting equality, respect, and understanding among all people."
 
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