Y dna haplogroup T

T-SK1480 and Parent still overlap, … same place for 2000 years, … They loved Italy and the Roman Empire :)
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2000 years?
Are you saying the roman invasions of the Alps anywhere from 15BC to 35AD is where our ancestors came from , captured and enslaved in Rome?
 
2000 years?
Are you saying the roman invasions of the Alps anywhere from 15BC to 35AD is where our ancestors came from , captured and enslaved in Rome?

I only said what the map shows!
… surely, in 15BC our ancestors were allies of the Romans, and rewarded with a beautiful Villa in Tuscany, … better climate than the Alps :grin:
 
Deleted … …
 
yfull dates BY143483 to 2998 ybp, that’s 1048 BC … some members may have been in Italy since then, and eventually mutating into SK1480.

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from snptracker:
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yfull dates BY143483 to 2998 ybp, that’s 1048 BC … some members may have been in Italy since then, and eventually mutating into SK1480.

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from snptracker:
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is the ybp still the year 1950 ?

or you stating this year?
 
is the ybp still the year 1950 ?
or you stating this year?
yes, bp is the year 1950, usually.

1950 - 2998 = -1048 or 1048 BC
 
ybp relates to radiocarbon dating, … the resulting dates are an approximation, … there’s not need to tweak them.

I see sites adding / subtracting 50 years to the ybp converted results, … waist of time.
 
August 2022 - The Anglo-Saxon migration and formation of the Early English Gene pool

I3011
- UK, Lincolnshire, Lincoln, Lincoln Castle
y T1a1a1b2b2b1a
mt H1a3

Code:
I3011_Early-Medieval_UK_Lincoln-Castle_Dod_K12b,8.36,1.05,0,0,43.18,29.04,1.46,0.12,4.78,0,11.06,0.97

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... "The history of the British Isles and Ireland is characterized by multiple periods of major cultural change, including the influential transformation after the end of Roman rule, which precipitated shifts in language, settlement patterns and material culture. The extent to which migration from continental Europe mediated these transitions is a matter of long-standing debate. Here we study genome-wide ancient DNA from 460 medieval northwestern Europeans – including 278 individuals from England – alongside archaeological data, to infer contemporary population dynamics. We identify a substantial increase of continental northern European ancestry in early medieval England, which is closely related to the early medieval and present-day inhabitants of Germany and Denmark, implying large-scale substantial migration across the North Sea into Britain during the Early Middle Ages. As a result, the individuals we analysed from eastern England derived up to 76% of their ancestry from the continental North Sea zone, albeit with substantial regional variation and heterogeneity within sites. We show that women with immigrant ancestry were more often furnished with grave goods than women with local ancestry, whereas men with weapons were as likely as not to be of immigrant ancestry. A comparison with present-day Britain indicates that subsequent demographic events reduced the fraction of continental northern European ancestry, while introducing further ancestry components into the English gene pool, including substantial southwestern European ancestry most closely related to that seen in Iron Age France." ...

ENA Browser (ebi.ac.uk)
 
far from me ...............I know its the other T branch

Distance to: Torziok12b
12.74404175 I3011_Early-Medieval_UK_Lincoln-Castle_Dod_K12b
 
dod K12b
Code:
ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a,5.50,0.00,3.83,0.00,27.98,21.55,0.57,0.05,8.73,0.00,31.43,0.36
ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6,24.77,0.00,0.00,0.01,6.82,17.69,1.57,0.00,7.02,0.00,41.83,0.28
GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b,0.06,0.00,3.38,0.00,34.64,9.52,0.00,0.00,13.96,0.00,38.41,0.03
GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H,10.29,0.00,1.72,1.05,19.47,7.73,0.00,0.21,17.41,0.01,41.68,0.42
TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1,12.52,0.66,2.52,0.00,22.00,3.34,0.00,0.00,15.70,0.00,42.39,0.88
TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1,8.14,0.00,1.51,0.00,23.12,6.78,0.00,0.00,15.66,0.48,43.92,0.38
TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1,8.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,24.57,5.51,0.00,0.00,16.85,0.78,44.05,0.16
TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a,9.86,0.39,3.08,0.00,13.28,0.00,0.00,0.56,21.37,0.92,50.55,0.00
TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15,11.56,0.00,1.79,0.00,11.74,1.59,0.00,0.78,25.53,0.07,46.80,0.14
TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1,12.32,0.00,2.21,2.29,11.88,0.00,0.97,0.07,20.42,0.00,49.26,0.57
 
all very far from myself

Distance to: Torziok12b
15.05875825 ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
27.57585538 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
35.07276294 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
35.28608649 GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
35.82466469 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
37.16133071 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
41.24376438 ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
48.36993488 TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
48.93004087 TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
49.08648185 TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
 
Distance to:S_Dod_K12b
6.71502792ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
13.05905816GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
15.27089716TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
15.69188644GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
16.35741422TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
18.29612801TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
29.02033770TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
29.16227872TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
29.29489205ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
29.31824176TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
 
Distance to:S_Dod_K12b
6.71502792ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
13.05905816GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
15.27089716TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
15.69188644GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
16.35741422TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
18.29612801TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
29.02033770TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
29.16227872TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
29.29489205ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
29.31824176TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1

what is this all about ?
 
IDDate mean in BPDate standard deviation in BPFull Date (95.4% CI)Analysis_LabelLocalityCountryLat.Long.Y-DNAmtDNA
I20143975188650-1300 CETUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_ByzStratonikeia-West Church (Aegean, Muğla, Yatağan)Turkey37.328.03T-L131J1b3b1
I46154991733263-2925 calBCE (4415±20 BP, PSUAMS-3063)TUR_SE_Şırnak_BATatika (Southeast, Şırnak, Güçlükonak, Koçtepe köyü)Turkey37.543241.8662T-L131N1
I14622112136773-885 calCE (1205±20 BP, PSUAMS-7198)ALB_MdvKënetë (Norteastern, Kukes District)Albania42.03694420.397222T-FGC47678H11a
I17962259467773-544 calBCE (2500±20 BP, PSUAMS-7825)GRC_Kastrouli_AncKastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi)Greece38.39908322.575T-S27463U8b1b
I7833161047252-412 calCE (1715±25 BP, PSUAMS-3469)GRC_Marathon_RomVranas MarathonGreece38.12220723.946392T-CTS3767H
I14799157514350-400 CETUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_ABasilica (Marmara, Iznik)Turkey40.4229.71T-CTS9984I1
I4530164834241-362 calCE (1755±20 BP, PSUAMS-4141)TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_ACedit, Basarabya (Black Sea, Samsun, llkadım)Turkey41.31336.33T-CTS8489U3a2a1
 
… is I17962 (773-544 calBCE) Mycenaean or Ancient Greek? … Maybe at the edge of both?
He’s very close to the Mycenaeans.

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23mofang (a company based in Chengdu, Sichuan,) has two members of T-PH110/T-PH196: a Mr. Hu 胡 from Changchun, Jilin and a Mr. Ma 馬 from Linxia Hui Autonomous Prefecture, Gansu.

23mofang currently estimates the TMRCA of T-PH110/T-PH196 to be a whopping 28,210 ybp (compared to an estimated TMRCA of 31,840 ybp for the entire haplogroup T-M184 and an estimated TMRCA of 19,260 ybp for T-L206).

T-M184 split into T1a1, T1a2, T1a3 ..........13500ybp , south of Baku on the Caspian Sea
 

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