Y dna haplogroup T

… my T-M70 23andme DNA-Relative (Post # 581) is under Trentino South-Tyrol.

… the filter:
VXY2kJN.jpg


… maybe there's something more about his story, Frassanito (his surname) is a place near Otranto.
 
Salento said:
… my T-M70 23andme DNA-Relative (Post # 581) is under Trentino South-Tyrol.

… the filter:
VXY2kJN.jpg


… maybe there's something more about his story, Frassanito (his surname) is a place near Otranto.
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both are in apulia ..............frassanito beach is near otranto

Frassanito Beach - Puglia

Otranto is a coastal town in southern Italy’s Apulia region


must be a cousin of yours


whats with Trentino south =Tyrol..........is it Giovanni Erspamer ?
or
Fave', from Canazei, Trentino ?
 
torzio said:
both are in apulia ..............frassanito beach is near otranto

Frassanito Beach - Puglia

Otranto is a coastal town in southern Italy’s Apulia region


must be a cousin of yours


whats with Trentino south =Tyrol..........is it Giovanni Erspamer ?
or
Fave', from Canazei, Trentino ?
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He’s in a group under the South-Tyrol (3rd cousin) … I only speculated about his name and Otranto.
 
Salento said:
… my T-M70 23andme DNA-Relative (Post # 581) is under Trentino South-Tyrol.

… the filter:
VXY2kJN.jpg


… maybe there's something more about his story, Frassanito (his surname) is a place near Otranto.
Click to expand...

My 2nd and last 23andme y T DNA-Relative is from Puglia (C. Vecchio).


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I only got two y T DNA-Relatives on 23andme, … regardless of their line and provenance, it's better than none … Don't steal my Thunder :)
 
torzio said:
all very far from myself

Distance to: Torziok12b
15.05875825 ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
27.57585538 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
35.07276294 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
35.28608649 GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
35.82466469 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
37.16133071 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
41.24376438 ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
48.36993488 TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
48.93004087 TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
49.08648185 TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
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my closest matches from Ftdna are

TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
VK398 ..............Viking
CL23 .............Lombard

there are no other T1a2 YDna in Ftdna that I match with.

T-Y79536 .....1100 BCE ............Metal Ages

and below is the only site which has T-Y79536 and it is not me.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/hordouille-hericourt/about
 
Claude Bonnier (env. 1640) à Gergy France T-BY59831

T1a3


>......................................................

Jean-Baptiiste Savignac, b. 1683 Bordeaux France T-Y21204

T1a2
 
interesting that T-BY143483 has split into 3 groups

T-Y79536 has an italian and a french

T-SK1480 has a czech and a german

T-FT242109 has a pole and a dutch
 
@Salento
Have you anything on the T sample below ?
Bla15 ................3571 calBCE ...........................T-L208

mtDna T1a1a Germany Middle_Neolithic Blätterhöhle Cave paper ....Blöcher, Jens (2020)
 
torzio said:
@Salento
Have you anything on the T sample below ?
Bla15 ................3571 calBCE ...........................T-L208
mtDna T1a1a Germany Middle_Neolithic Blätterhöhle Cave paper ....Blöcher, Jens (2020)
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No I don’t have it. I have other BlaXX but they are aliases..not their official names. It’s possible Bla15 has another name..maybe?
 
... some y T Imputed Dodecad K12b coordinates:

Code: 
Italy_Roman_LateAntiquity-C6_imputed:R120_T1a2,6.19,0,2.65,0,33.41,17.30,0,0,11.67,0,28.67,0.11
Italy_LatinEra_Ardea_IA-C5_imputed:R850_T1a1a1b2,7.35,0,2.08,0,24.76,10.72,0,0.48,16.29,0,38.32,0
Italy_Roman_Imperial-C5_imputed:R1543_T1a1a1b2,10.31,0,4.08,0,24.10,7.57,0.28,0,14.60,0,39.05,0
Hungary_Langobard_imputed:SZ36_T1a1a1b2,3.99,0.19,1.10,0.20,31.78,22.71,0,0,10.37,0,29.66,0
Sweden_VikingAge_imputed:VK398_T1a2,8.33,0.72,0.50,0,36.99,41.69,0,0,0.91,0,10.83,0.04
Russia_VikingAge_imputed:VK17_T1a1,5.00,2.22,0,0,30.37,60.77,0,0,0,0,1.65,0
Kazakhstan_IronAge_Kangju_imputed:DA125_T,24.12,7.82,0,0,13.16,38.96,1.89,0,0,1.76,12.29,0
Lebanon_RomanEra_imputed:ERS3189333_T1a1a1b2,10.82,0,3.98,0.96,17.08,0,0,0,26.43,0.06,40.59,0.08
Lebanon_Medieval_imputed:ERS3189353_T1a2,7.58,0,5.35,0,16.00,0,0,0.55,24.80,0.10,45.61,0
 
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I've been thinking when I shouldn't … lol … R850 (800 - 500 BCE) was probably a Roman Monarchic, chances are the Republic came after his time, … maybe.
 
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Salento ..
.you might as well also do the 4 x T1a around the Harz mountains germany
the 3 x Bulgarians .................all above are neolithic period

the 2 x Himera sicilians
 
new globetrekker for myself

different path but same final spot
 

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New T1a2 ydna in Yfull ...................first jewish that I can see in the T1a2 ydna tree for the group that I belong to

Yankel Gilerman 1745-1800
Berezdiv, Slavuts'kyi district, Khmel'nyts'ka oblast, Ukraine

had son Usher 1776-1827

surname changed to Goldman in 1843
 
Another new T1a2 ydna

Jooseppi Helenanp. Mälkönen,1871-1950, Finland
 
... negative to Y349962, SK1480 still rules :)
 
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at Salento ...................I am also negative for that snp
 
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