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Jovialis
01-12-19, 22:42
I'm interested in this Thracian from 450 BC; he has a pretty close affinity to R437, and other Italian samples:

https://i.imgur.com/Vn9Msep.png
https://i.imgur.com/lLqqf7K.png

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778)

Salento
01-12-19, 23:19
I'm interested in this Thracian from 450 BC; he has a pretty close affinity to R437, and other Italian samples:

https://i.imgur.com/Vn9Msep.png
https://i.imgur.com/lLqqf7K.png

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778)



56. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.62 - I5769 -
Top 95% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/PCGHDNy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OBlQ6Y1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CXPrKHK.jpg

Angela
01-12-19, 23:31
49. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 13.85 - I3499 -
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) (7.94)
Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (9.094)
Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) (9.098)
Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (9.27)
Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) (9.32)

I'm much closer to these Scythians and Illyrians :
15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.865 - scy192 -
Top
99% match vs all users

17. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.35 - I3313 -
Top
97% match vs all users

Closer yet to this Gallo Roman
9. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.491 - SZ28 - ?
Ancient GroupModern GroupSimiliar SamplesHaplogroups (NEW!)PCA AncientPCA ModernResearch Link
1. North_Italian (5.633)


I think we're just looking at admixed Steppe and Farmer admixed groups.

Jovialis
01-12-19, 23:32
56. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 16.62 - I5769 -
Top 95% match vs all users

https://i.imgur.com/PCGHDNy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OBlQ6Y1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CXPrKHK.jpg

From the Moots paper:


Furthermore, qpAdm modeling suggests that Neolithic Italian farmers can be modeled as a two-way mixture of ~5% local hunter-gatherer ancestry and ~95% ancestry of Neolithic farmers from central Anatolia or northern Greece (table S7), who also carry additional CHG (or Neolithic Iranian) ancestry (fig. S12) (14 (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/366/6466/708#ref-14)). These findings point to different or additional source populations involved in the Neolithic transition in Italy compared to central and western Europe.


Citation number 14 is the same study that is referenced for the "Thracian Bulgaria" sample:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778

https://i.imgur.com/93aa1FG.png

Salento
02-12-19, 03:19
From the Moots paper:



Citation number 14 is the same study that is referenced for the "Thracian Bulgaria" sample:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25778

https://i.imgur.com/93aa1FG.png

The main European Ancestral Timelapse has 2 Iron Age maps:

BC - Ardea Latin Tribe and Thracian

DC - Romans and (I think R835) Imperial Rome Marche CN

https://i.imgur.com/2k0HbqB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/t3Izzwx.jpg

Carlos
02-12-19, 16:28
My new hidden identity.


I think it's great with the VCF file. He treats me like I'm someone mixed relatively soon. The distances are great but it seems great to support my doctoral thesis.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hvQI1gjMnVA/XeE7xvPl4mI/AAAAAAAABk8/4eirDxWgdrwZJVKBwZcsw5e4UZ7uME2OACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/AlandalusGespids.JPEG

Now we are going to study my first 10 examples of my hidden identity, which is how I titled my doctoral thesis.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lctXX1Y9kU0/XeE7-lyoPCI/AAAAAAAABlA/106SxAlYSsYZMHTL_JHGIdj1CrrA9p0kgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient1.JPEG
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-k7-683hs4-k/XeE8ErMApjI/AAAAAAAABlI/rlt4lGWUwz07QZAz_vhiFuR88d37U0dSQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient3.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J9yQNv0d5WY/XeE8Ia6kRfI/AAAAAAAABlM/R_4ESacPcfIR_RUOAy90ZP-9cxacsbzVwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient4.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VYhbKOLT3Tk/XeE8PO3zofI/AAAAAAAABlU/T8xX9No16p8xwqmAIJbd55mheQllscfzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient5.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J-tU2X5OqFY/XeE8SeyEd7I/AAAAAAAABlY/-O3pUco-mzM7DW_t5PWDFQHQcUcUfBRKACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient6.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3eF0BNWOHJM/XeE8VqzN61I/AAAAAAAABlc/T9njj1BRvcoaqceirYW6QrWLXtJ_jExYQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient7.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DmHVAAEch1U/XeE8dJ5rAEI/AAAAAAAABlo/yNJ_rPK1BWM_A6m10tdl5Ge2odNIUnoAgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient8.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NAxzXGJVTdA/XeE8hO85i-I/AAAAAAAABlw/3vzG7UOHR2kig-gTqmalt-X7IaGXpzezACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient9.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hdL2m3VKCJc/XeE8j4K-M_I/AAAAAAAABl0/BQRu95ut770EyEhYOJxD6EzyKvoYCpoEQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSETancient10.JPEG

Segments Mape

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5QrQU4-O9xw/XeUoLU1sQVI/AAAAAAAABog/qwmDzBuT8Q4F-1lK1F_8wK84sBDIo9O6wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/closet11.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qYoN3K40okA/XeUoOJYgZcI/AAAAAAAABok/G_nL6SYRMY4rGi8-nXpmBWxD6WpYGbNlwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/closet12.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5N3NhTCH6DQ/XeUoRvPK6OI/AAAAAAAABoo/E-LFeBFFfksmb00lDsa_cEP2wWZRNFwVACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSET13.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F4z49Jk_ARA/XeUoU3QOtiI/AAAAAAAABos/14GljCShYKIVbDJ1AFg66THad1hciXauQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSET14.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Tg9Q7e7sPs/XeUoZ0Ki5pI/AAAAAAAABow/3_m9FKIMiQ8wPUKf5xgW9_Yh19TpFa_hgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSET15.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DijLpSL25Jc/XeUodXDncMI/AAAAAAAABo4/Uq7AXTgkNoE5YTqQKfegNCXopjfKWb3JgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSE16.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NgpGpjYf6y8/XeUog-_f1LI/AAAAAAAABpA/sHURanNsCBAR84u_8YHaLOrp8-NloywkQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/CLOSET17.JPEG






https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a2RkKpwIx1A/XeUWamcfp8I/AAAAAAAABmw/PldepVHD8GgdbEiwlUqxTo3ui7xrc3GhgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO1.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fy-SVO3cky8/XeUWf88ilnI/AAAAAAAABm0/QvgwbI6-boca3sM0Mpaa8lIStVKgMJuegCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO2.jpeg
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s7iH1hSDwkI/XeUWxcfKxII/AAAAAAAABnE/sDg3JkDHse01qvVkVTuvH-QK3Y9kitIeQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO4.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7roTk7nMcq8/XeUW2tclIBI/AAAAAAAABnI/77QtQUzG9wUn-wtqGx8x8HSZGQFrkgLuwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO5.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AjlagrzEzEI/XeUW7aA3mVI/AAAAAAAABnQ/ikBdNQiLzIoYzaOhUCvQswfydJSm21k6gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO6.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cWADI83Egag/XeUXAmzReUI/AAAAAAAABnU/FBW2ritNO4QbYRDbeN6D_EPrS1nPTThMwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO7.JPEG
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bIGIr1MrlZ4/XeUXlezOYYI/AAAAAAAABoA/5cbWshvngUcfL_Prew0b1kFMirHqUo0_wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO14.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_RdD2jclP9Y/XeUXrg58Y_I/AAAAAAAABoI/BHfXJ21e9bgulb26y3qWlbUHRYBRy5CbwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO15.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ye615-lT0fA/XeUXyAFGiGI/AAAAAAAABoQ/tWtzUDyYLO0u1DbpbtRkf8Tu_Y4OiURtgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO16.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wn8a3fZgRlk/XeUunGhO3YI/AAAAAAAABpY/0K74mjZ-4zs3SGuvfbunhSQVcp6_wAHmACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VISIGODO17.JPEG



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YECmj33VHVk/XeCXP4IpZBI/AAAAAAAABkw/QZtUSnOmlNQhn6900paiB9cg6qkmu0mpgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/dnaLANDmapaMundi.JPEG

I think it's a great tool. Like Russian dolls. It is what it is


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TlhLwFUXamU/XeXLGhsvTGI/AAAAAAAABpk/mGcmGqoMK2QzUeABAk8yNCfiCqCjs9ZUQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/COMPARACI%25C3%2593N2kitsDNAland.JPEG

Joey37
03-12-19, 02:17
11655I have a new Deep Dive relative! Trumpington Meadows, eh? Sounds like it is in England and a property of Donald Trump, who, like me, is the male-line descendant of a Lutheran Palatine German immigrant.

Salento
03-12-19, 02:45
Just wondering what’s happening with the leaked PCA ...

anybody? :)

Duarte
03-12-19, 03:52
Just wondering what’s happening with the leaked PCA ...

anybody? :)

Hi dear friend Salento. I would like much contribute with something, but I don’t have idea about what is this leaked PCA that you cited. Than, I am waiting anybody too, as you. Cheers ;) :good_job::smile:

Salento
03-12-19, 05:03
Hi dear friend Salento. I would like much contribute with something, but I don’t have idea about what is this leaked PCA that you cited. Than, I am waiting anybody too, as you. Cheers ;) :good_job::smile:

It could be another SECRET Roman PCA,

the purple triangles are Ancient Roman Samples, the Yellow represents modern populations, and the Tarantula ME (Salento) :grin: LOL


https://i.imgur.com/k1HSzXT.jpg

Carlos
03-12-19, 15:01
It could be another SECRET Roman PCA,

the purple triangles are Ancient Roman Samples, the Yellow represents modern populations, and the Tarantula ME (Salento) :grin: LOL


https://i.imgur.com/k1HSzXT.jpg

Apparently they have found a member of gens sergia of the oldest Roman families.

03-12-19, 23:18
To all: I could use some advise in understanding MyTrueAncestry. They list "ancient relatives" with whom I share identified DNA segments. The very first of these is Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC). Of this they list:

- Rise61: mtDNA: J1c4, Y-DNA: R1a1a1, Total cM=49.85, Largest segment=11.98 cM (17 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is 74% closer than other matching users

However, when I enter this into the One to One autosomal matching in Gedcom, I get, "No shared DNA segments found." This results with no modifications to the set search settings:

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 7.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.

Is this a problem with MyTrueAncestry, Gedcom, or me?

Salento
03-12-19, 23:43
@shissem Change the:

“Minimum segment cM size
to be included in total:
(Leave blank for default value = 7”) to 1

If you still don’t ge anything try Q-Matching One-To-One, (is not free) and do the same thing (change the 7 default value to 1).

Maybe you’ll get something.

04-12-19, 00:06
@shissem Change the:

“Minimum segment cM size
to be included in total:
(Leave blank for default value = 7”) to 1

If you still don’t ge anything try Q-Matching One-To-One, (is not free) and do the same thing (change the 7 default value to 1).

Maybe you’ll get something.

Salento, thank you for the response. Your first hint did not help (got the same answer), but I will look into Gedcom's Tier 1.

Salento
04-12-19, 00:34
Salento, thank you for the response. Your first hint did not help (got the same answer), but I will look into Gedcom's Tier 1.

Q-Matching One-to-One:

Salento vs Kit M130094 RISE61 Battle Axe Denmark

Total cM: 14.54
Largest segment cM: 4.30
Total segments: 7
Total gap-induced breaks: 4
Max gap: 2.35
........

https://i.imgur.com/3seE6jM.jpg

04-12-19, 02:48
Salento, again thank you, you're a good man.

I suppose my concern at this point is not so much that I can't get a match on Gedcom for this one sample, but why is there such a mismatch between it and MTA? After all, the MTA gave me Rise6 as my top match. Has anyone else seen this kind of discrepancy?

And yes, I understand this is just an amateur, fun exercise meant more for entertainment than anything else.

Carlos
04-12-19, 03:15
https://www.yourdnaportal.com/assets/images/agreeableness.jpg


Agreeableness



rs12934132GG
People with your genotype tend to be more agreeable. Agreeableness is one of the 'big five' personality traits that psychologists use to assess character.SHOW/HIDE REFERENCES









https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_srGtfZBUxE/XecG6UU00PI/AAAAAAAABp8/l8GTPKa61V8BDD0RoSY3tvhr_IjwP-figCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PREMIUMeurope150matches.jpeg

https://sbt.blob.core.windows.net/site-images/ela/doctor-jekyll-and-mister-hyde.png

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYiIv3Yi0MY/XecHCRBwskI/AAAAAAAABqA/uuka3WJfunknNbZ-i-jFPJ5H5HfcPap2gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MapeEURPEPREMIUMidentidadOculta.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l4iRp2F2lEw/XecHIAFCAVI/AAAAAAAABqE/bwdb38S7JGoaf089jJgz3uBpe70UWI1yQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MAPEPREMIUNeuropeAsiaIDENTIDADoculta.JPEG

Salento
04-12-19, 04:51
... intermediate tendency to be Agreeable:

https://i.imgur.com/cGPzAnZ.jpg


... from the Latin Tribes to the Mausoleum of Augustus:

https://i.imgur.com/G5aPzbo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OzolGbk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jpkQNHG.jpg


Mausoleo di Augusto:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Roma-mausoleo_di_augusto.jpg/640px-Roma-mausoleo_di_augusto.jpg


Top 40:

https://i.imgur.com/vf9Qii4.jpg

Salento
04-12-19, 06:49
Roman singer Giulia Penna vs the portrait of the Ancient Roman Domina:

https://aboutcreators.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Giulia-Penna-video-parodia-2015-1024x683.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kt2hTaO.jpg


... not exactly, but think of a Trojan-Hellenic-Roman dance-song,

Giulia Penna :heart: :grin: ... (in English):


https://youtu.be/E7DzjKjKGnc

Duarte
04-12-19, 12:08
Roman singer Giulia Penna vs the portrait of the Ancient Roman Domina:

https://aboutcreators.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Giulia-Penna-video-parodia-2015-1024x683.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kt2hTaO.jpg


... not exactly, but think of a Trojan-Hellenic-Roman dance-song,

Giulia Penna :heart: :grin: ... (in English):


https://youtu.be/E7DzjKjKGnc

Beautiful woman. Beautiful song. Wonderfully dancing music.

Una bella ragazza italiana ;)

Carlos
04-12-19, 14:22
Roman singer Giulia Penna vs the portrait of the Ancient Roman Domina:

https://aboutcreators.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Giulia-Penna-video-parodia-2015-1024x683.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kt2hTaO.jpg


... not exactly, but think of a Trojan-Hellenic-Roman dance-song,

Giulia Penna :heart: :grin: ... (in English):


https://youtu.be/E7DzjKjKGnc

I don't see her as ancient Roman or Domina. Perhaps nowadays it comes from a well-off family, I think that its origins in ancient Rome were foreign. I think it is a freedom (Liberta).

Angela
04-12-19, 16:39
There's absolutely nothing "foreign" about her look. She looks like every other contestant in the Miss Italy contest , face and body both. It's an extremely common type.

While born in Rome, and the name is common in both Northwestern Italy and Napoli, she looks to me more southern in origin, so I'm quite sure women like her lived in ancient Rome.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9bJ5B4k32iY/maxresdefault.jpg


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b9/66/08/b96608e1b114eaa19877b0cf15e4bdb0.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/1f/f8/cd1ff8cd9993aeeed64b0a1b1119fd7e--ancient-pompeii-ancient-art.jpg
Now, let's leave "phenotype" for the proper thread and get back on topic, shall we?

Salento
06-12-19, 00:08
3D Sample Analyzes

Single raw :-D

https://i.imgur.com/INZf6Kp.gif


Combined raw :-D
https://i.imgur.com/4o2l8Fy.gif

Duarte
06-12-19, 01:57
@Salento. Very cool :good_job:


https://i.imgur.com/Ki23d1s.gif

Salento
06-12-19, 02:32
@Duarte very NICE Carioca colors :)

Duarte
06-12-19, 02:48
@Duarte very NICE Carioca colors :)

Thanks Salento :good_job::smile:

torzio
07-12-19, 02:23
my only
Your Outlier Samples.

131. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 22.07 - MJ34 -
Top 43% match vs all users

152. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 23.45 - MA2198 - ?
Top 87% match vs all users

156. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 23.71 - scy010 -
Top 48% match vs all users

169. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 24.36 - AED125b - ?
Top 40% match vs all users


,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,........... ..........................
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,........... ............................
//////////////////////////////////////

my

Neolithic Age

31. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 97% match vs all users

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my

Early Bronze Age

32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.39 - I4332 -
Top 94% match vs all users


37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 15.0 - I4331 -
Top 92% match vs all users

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my


Late Bronze Age

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users


4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users


51. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users


................................................

my Iron age.......all around Moltova ......what does this mean

Iron Age

7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

17. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 12.35 - scy192 -
Top 97% match vs all users

24. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.52 - scy300 -
Top 97% match vs all users

30. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.25 - scy305 -
Top 96% match vs all users

40. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.24 - scy311 -
Top 66% match vs all users



..............................................

my


Roman Age

50. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 15.85 - R33 -
Top 93% match vs all users

52. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 15.94 - AED_1108 - ?
Top 71% match vs all users


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my


Dark Ages

2. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.332 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.695 - SZ36 -
Top 98% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 9.874 - CL36 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

8. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.06 - SZ43 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 10.11 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 10.63 - NS3b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

11. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.18 - CL57 -
Top 96% match vs all users

12. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) ..... 11.52 - CL94 -
Top 95% match vs all users

14. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 11.78 - CL23 -
Top 98% match vs all users

15. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.92 - SZ32 - ?
Top 97% match vs all users

Joey37
07-12-19, 04:06
Most of my top 10 matches are Dark Age Germanic Tribesmen, while my top Deep Dive match is Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland; given I have Irish ancestry and a great-great-grandmother whose birth certificate was in English AND Gaelic, that guy could be a very distant cousin.

Salento
07-12-19, 05:33
Top 10 by Era (almost :)

https://i.imgur.com/jubPgBO.gif

Carlos
07-12-19, 06:16
Top 10 by Era (almost :)

https://i.imgur.com/jubPgBO.gif

Wonderful, you have never seen someone so Roman. Ampuria brava is wonderful but Torna alta Andalucía will chase you wherever you go and for all eternity.

I have obtained 18 Alpine results, the Alps are a mountain range, when I went to Berlin I crossed it from the sky. I will publish tomorrow, I will retire to my rooms, soon it will dawn once again, hopelessly.

Salento
07-12-19, 07:20
Wonderful, you have never seen someone so Roman. Ampuria brava is wonderful but Torna alta Andalucía will chase you wherever you go and for all eternity.
I have obtained 18 Alpine results, the Alps are a mountain range, when I went to Berlin I crossed it from the sky. I will publish tomorrow, I will retire to my rooms, soon it will dawn once again, hopelessly.

(Timelines) Torna Alta Andalucía is a Señorita, I think, .. 💃🏻 chasing me for all eternity? lol

She’s always in red, and in some case, she’s the only one in red.

... Mañana por la Mañana :)

https://i.imgur.com/tX4b4Qt.jpg

Duarte
07-12-19, 12:16
Very cool guys. :good_job: With this new weekend upgrade, these are some of my acquirements:

Ancient relatives - new share identified DNA segmentshttps://i.imgur.com/ZWk3BOc.png
https://i.imgur.com/h97XfUT.png
https://i.imgur.com/Fi3uA36.png
https://i.imgur.com/cdbbSAv.png
https://i.imgur.com/hxEIRnX.png
https://i.imgur.com/06eAP57.png

Hawk
07-12-19, 15:29
Since i still cannot link images i am going to post only:


Ancient Populations:

Hellenic Roman + Roman (10.38)
Roman (10.98)
Ancient Greek + Roman (13.25)
Hellenic Roman (14.47)
Ancient Greek (17.59)

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.98
Top
98
% match vs all users

2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 12.45
Top
97
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.08
Top
93
% match vs all users

4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 13.46
Top
95
% match vs all users

5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 13.47
Top
93
% match vs all users

6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 13.92
Top
98
% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.47
Top
93
% match vs all users

8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 15.2
Top
92
% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 15.26
Top
92
% match vs all users

10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 15.69
Top
92
% match vs all users

11. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 16.33
Top
92
% match vs all users

12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.53
Top
91
% match vs all users

13. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 16.54
Top
80
% match vs all users

14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.63
Top
92
% match vs all users

15. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 16.74
Top
93
% match vs all users

16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.93
Top
92
% match vs all users

17. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.01
Top
95
% match vs all users

18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 17.09
Top
92
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 17.25
Top
90
% match vs all users

20. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 17.49
Top
89
% match vs all users

Modern populations:

1. Greek_Thessaly (6.550)
2. Bulgarian (9.893)
3. Greek (10.47)
4. Kosovan (10.70)
5. Romanian (11.34)
6. Macedonian (11.40)
7. Central_Greek (12.80)
8. Italian_Abruzzo (13.25)

Angela
07-12-19, 16:39
Since i still cannot link images i am going to post only:


Ancient Populations:

Hellenic Roman + Roman (10.38)
Roman (10.98)
Ancient Greek + Roman (13.25)
Hellenic Roman (14.47)
Ancient Greek (17.59)

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 10.98
Top
98
% match vs all users

2. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 12.45
Top
97
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.08
Top
93
% match vs all users

4. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 13.46
Top
95
% match vs all users

5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 13.47
Top
93
% match vs all users

6. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 13.92
Top
98
% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 14.47
Top
93
% match vs all users

8. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 15.2
Top
92
% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 15.26
Top
92
% match vs all users

10. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 15.69
Top
92
% match vs all users

11. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 16.33
Top
92
% match vs all users

12. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.53
Top
91
% match vs all users

13. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 16.54
Top
80
% match vs all users

14. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.63
Top
92
% match vs all users

15. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 16.74
Top
93
% match vs all users

16. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 16.93
Top
92
% match vs all users

17. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.01
Top
95
% match vs all users

18. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 17.09
Top
92
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 17.25
Top
90
% match vs all users

20. [Hidden] - upgrade to Footman+ ..... 17.49
Top
89
% match vs all users

Modern populations:

1. Greek_Thessaly (6.550)
2. Bulgarian (9.893)
3. Greek (10.47)
4. Kosovan (10.70)
5. Romanian (11.34)
6. Macedonian (11.40)
7. Central_Greek (12.80)
8. Italian_Abruzzo (13.25)

Interesting that you don't get Tuscan. I've seen other Albanians get it.

Fwiw, their modern populations fit for me, which is really, I guess, just Eurogenes K15, is one of the worst I've gotten.

Hawk
07-12-19, 18:20
Interesting that you don't get Tuscan. I've seen other Albanians get it.

Fwiw, their modern populations fit for me, which is really, I guess, just Eurogenes K15, is one of the worst I've gotten.

I don't know here, but in MLDP calculator i do get a Tuscan. Though, i might be wrong in all calculators my Caucasus and North European is slightly higher than the average Albanian.


Mine, Albanian.



Population



Amerindian
-


Ancestor
0.24 Pct


Steppe
16.38 Pct


Indian
-


Arctic
-


Australian
-


Caucasian
37.69 Pct


EastAfrican
-


NorthEastEuropean
15.73 Pct


NearEast
-


Neolithic
29.65 Pct


NorthAfrican
-


Oceanic
-


Siberian
-


SouthEastAsian
0.29 Pct


Subsaharian
-



Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Caucasian
37.69


2
Neolithic
29.65


3
Steppe
16.38


4
NorthEastEuropean
15.73


5
SouthEastAsian
0.29


6
Ancestor
0.24


7
Australian
0.02


Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Greek (Thessaloniki)
5.4


2
Albanian (Albania)
5.84


3
Kosovar (Kosovo)
5.91


4
Greek (Greece)
7.03


5
Italian (Tuscany)
7.4


6
Bulgarian (Bulgaria)
8.03


7
Bulgarian (Bulgaria)
8.06


8
Macedonian (Macedonia)
8.11


9
Greek (Peloponnes)
8.32


10
Gagauz (Gagauzia)
8.7


11
Greek (Macedonia)
9.19


12
Greek (Athens)
9.33


13
Italian (NorthIitaly)
9.44


14
Italian (Abruzzo)
9.74


15
Romanian (Romania)
9.78


16
Romanian (Gorj)
9.88


17
Montenegrian (Montenegro)
10.06


18
Italian (Friul)
10.52


19
Italian (Bergamo)
10.52


20
Serbian (Serbia)
10.69

torzio
07-12-19, 19:16
I don't know here, but in MLDP calculator i do get a Tuscan. Though, i might be wrong in all calculators my Caucasus and North European is slightly higher than the average Albanian.

best to try MLDP K23b


mine below

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
European_Early_Farmers
29.06


2
Caucasian
27.92


3
European_Hunters_Gatherers
25.54


4
South_Central_Asian
5.01


5
Near_East
4.20


6
North_African
4.12


7
Ancestral_Altaic
3.19




Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_North_ @ 1.616997 ...............gap of 9.0 points , never seen this anywhere
2 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 10.678257
3 Kosovar_ @ 10.711663
4 German-Volga_ @ 10.766364
5 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 11.002331
6 Greek_Northwest_ @ 11.166147
7 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.619445
8 French_ @ 12.120668
9 Bulgarian_ @ 13.362151


.................................................. ...........

I see you used ........

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4 .............................mine below

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Neolithic
30.99


2
Caucasian
27.40


3
Steppe
18.76


4
NorthEastEuropean
18.63


5
NorthAfrican
1.75


6
NearEast
1.63




Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Friul @ 5.779080
2 Provencal_Provence @ 5.918087

Stuvanè
07-12-19, 20:21
Mine :)

Neolithic Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NeolithicPattern.jpg
66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
Top
94% match vs all users
Early Bronze Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaBronze.jpg
67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
Top
89% match vs all users

82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
Top
88% match vs all users
Late Bronze Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerBronze.jpg
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
Top
99% match vs all users

11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
Top
94% match vs all users
Iron Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaIron.jpg
33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
Top
96% match vs all users

37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
Top
94% match vs all users

40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
Top
93% match vs all users

78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
Top
92% match vs all users

81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
Top
94% match vs all users

96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
Top
92% match vs all users
Roman Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ItalyEarlyImperial.jpg
7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
Top
99% match vs all users

12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
Top
99% match vs all users

20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
Top
97% match vs all users

21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
Top
98% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
Top
94% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
Top
95% match vs all users

30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
Top
97% match vs all users

35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
Top
98% match vs all users

41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
Top
96% match vs all users

42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
Top
96% match vs all users
Dark Ages
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaVendel.jpg
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
Top
98% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
Top
97% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
Top
98% match vs all users
Medieval Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NorsePattern.jpg
5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
Top
99% match vs all users

13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
Top
99% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
Top
99% match vs all users

16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
Top
95% match vs all users

22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
Top
98% match vs all users

23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
Top
94% match vs all users

24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
Top
94% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
Top
98% match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
Top
99% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
Top
94% match vs all users
Early Modern Period
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerHansa.jpg
4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
Top
99% match vs all users

17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
Top
98% match vs all users

31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
Top
95% match vs all users

46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
Top
89% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
Top
93% match vs all users

74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
Top
92% match vs all users

Stuvanè
07-12-19, 20:23
... and curious these "outlier samples"


Your Outlier Samples...

(These are the most genetically unique among your broader matching samples)

https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Outlier.jpg
152. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 24.39 - PCA89_Mas2 - ?
Top
64
% match vs all users

171. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 25.77 - MJ34 -
Top
31
% match vs all users

172. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 26.06 - Rise397 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

176. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (1873 BC) ..... 26.57 - UNTA58_153 -
Top
50
% match vs all users

179. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 26.76 - SZ38 - ?
Top
29
% match vs all users

184. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) ..... 27.09 - scy301 -
Top
26
% match vs all users

185. Greco-Bactrian Tajikistan (50 BC) ..... 27.11 - I12293 - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

186. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 27.17 - R128 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

189. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix (410 AD) ..... 27.35 - STR_328 -
Top
36
% match vs all users

193. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 27.48 - SZ5 -
Top
25
% match vs all users

194. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 27.5 - I3776 -
Top
72
% match vs all users

195. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 27.58 - UNTA85_1343 -
Top
29
% match vs all users

197. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 27.6 - LM_403_T -
Top
33
% match vs all users

198. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 27.6 - AED125b - ?
Top
32
% match vs all users

199. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 27.62 - MA2208 -
Top
91
% match vs all users

Jovialis
07-12-19, 20:47
https://i.imgur.com/Js7entu.png

Hawk
07-12-19, 20:49
best to try MLDP K23b


mine below

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
European_Early_Farmers
29.06


2
Caucasian
27.92


3
European_Hunters_Gatherers
25.54


4
South_Central_Asian
5.01


5
Near_East
4.20


6
North_African
4.12


7
Ancestral_Altaic
3.19




Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_North_ @ 1.616997 ...............gap of 9.0 points , never seen this anywhere
2 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 10.678257
3 Kosovar_ @ 10.711663
4 German-Volga_ @ 10.766364
5 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 11.002331
6 Greek_Northwest_ @ 11.166147
7 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.619445
8 French_ @ 12.120668
9 Bulgarian_ @ 13.362151


.................................................. ...........

I see you used ........

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4 .............................mine below

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Neolithic
30.99


2
Caucasian
27.40


3
Steppe
18.76


4
NorthEastEuropean
18.63


5
NorthAfrican
1.75


6
NearEast
1.63




Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Friul @ 5.779080
2 Provencal_Provence @ 5.918087


Here, my MDLP K23b Oracle results:


#
Population
Percent


1
Caucasian
41.78


2
European_Early_Farmers
23.05


3
European_Hunters_Gatherers
21.85


4
South_Central_Asian
4.53


5
Near_East
3.53


6
Ancestral_Altaic
1.9


7
North_African
1.54


8
Melano_Polynesian
0.86


9
East_Siberian
0.73


10
South_East_Asian
0.24





Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Central_Greek ( )
4.11


2
Greek_Athens ( )
5.32


3
Albanian_Tirana ( )
5.94


4
Greek_Thessaloniki ( )
6.18


5
Greek ( )
6.22


6
Greek_Thessaly ( )
6.79


7
Italian_South ( )
7.05


8
Romanian_Jew ( )
7.66


9
Greek_Peloponnesos ( )
7.89


10
Gagauz ( )
8.07


11
Greek_Macedonia ( )
8.08


12
Sicilian_Center ( )
8.32


13
Greek_Phokaia ( )
8.36


14
Ashkenazi ( )
8.66


15
Kosovar ( )
9.07


16
Greek_Smyrna ( )
9.1


17
Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( )
9.23


18
Greek_Islands ( )
9.37


19
Cretan ( )
9.7


20
Greek_Northwest ( )
9.84





Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

85%
Kosovar ( )
+
15%
Georgian_Laz ( )
@
2.28


2

84.6%
Kosovar ( )
+
15.4%
Georgian_Tbilisi ( )
@
2.52


3

84.9%
Kosovar ( )
+
15.1%
Georgian_Imereti ( )
@
2.7


4

84.3%
Kosovar ( )
+
15.7%
Georgian_Svan ( )
@
2.82


5

84.2%
Kosovar ( )
+
15.8%
Georgian_Megrelia ( )
@
2.86


6

80.8%
Kosovar ( )
+
19.2%
Turk_Trabzon ( )
@
2.93


7

90.6%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
9.4%
Georgian_Laz ( )
@
2.98


8

90.5%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
9.5%
Georgian_Imereti ( )
@
2.99


9

90.3%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
9.7%
Georgian_Tbilisi ( )
@
2.99


10

90%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
10%
Georgian_Megrelia ( )
@
3.05


11

90.1%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
9.9%
Georgian_Svan ( )
@
3.06


12

83.7%
Kosovar ( )
+
16.3%
Georgian ( )
@
3.12


13

83.9%
Kosovar ( )
+
16.1%
Adjara ( )
@
3.15


14

89.6%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
10.4%
Abkhasian ( )
@
3.15


15

89.7%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
10.3%
Georgian ( )
@
3.16


16

83.6%
Kosovar ( )
+
16.4%
Abkhasian ( )
@
3.2


17

90%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
10%
Adjara ( )
@
3.29


18

88%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
12%
Turk_Trabzon ( )
@
3.36


19

70.1%
Italian_Piedmont ( )
+
29.9%
Georgian_Tbilisi ( )
@
3.61


20

89%
Albanian_Tirana ( )
+
11%
Kakheti ( )
@
3.67

Salento
07-12-19, 20:54
All Outliers are located at the bottom of a 200 samples list,

I guess it’s another way of saying:

“There’s No Chance in Hell that you’re related to them”!

or, am I missing something?

torzio
07-12-19, 21:46
All Outliers are located at the bottom of a 200 samples list,

I guess it’s another way of saying:

“There’s No Chance in Hell that you’re related to them”!

or, am I missing something?

It might mean you line passed through the same lands as these samples but not related

Hawk
07-12-19, 23:08
With ancient populations

11667

With modern ones:

11668

Joey37
07-12-19, 23:45
I tend to deprecate the K23b, mostly because I cannot see how I could have that large amount of Ancestral Altaic, whatever that is, but then if a northern Italian can get a 3.19, maybe my 4.25 isn't so irrational. Because everything else checks out.



1
European_Hunters_Gatherers
35.97


2
European_Early_Farmers
27.64


3
Caucasian
21.59


4
South_Central_Asian
5.87


5
Ancestral_Altaic
4.25


6
North_African
3.05




Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 English_ @ 2.520670
2 Belgian_ @ 3.189655
3 Irish_ @ 3.521570
4 Frisian_ @ 3.740649
5 North_European_ @ 3.763905
6 South_German_ @ 4.837700
7 Dutch_ @ 4.853911
8 German-Volga_ @ 4.944228
9 English_Kent_GBR_ @ 4.947083
10 CEU_ @ 5.183545
11 English_Cornwall_GBR_ @ 5.436276
12 Welsh_ @ 5.771932
13 British_ @ 6.015256
14 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 6.884786
15 Norwegian_East_ @ 7.634028
16 Orcadian_ @ 7.697372
17 Norwegian_West_ @ 8.406718
18 Icelandic_ @ 8.414221
19 North_German_ @ 8.852917
20 Dane_ @ 8.975033

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German-Volga_ +50% North_European_ @ 2.036010


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish_ +25% Russian_North_ +25% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.491629


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.491629
2 Dutch_ + Dutch_ + North_German_ + Portugese_ @ 1.505818
3 Dane_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Portugese_ @ 1.535320
4 Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Portugese_ + Swede_ @ 1.568010
5 Frisian_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.585438
6 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Irish_ + Kashub_ + Portugese_ @ 1.607059
7 Italian_North_ + North_European_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.612856
8 Frisian_ + Irish_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.635453
9 Frisian_ + German_ + Irish_ + Portugese_ @ 1.638880
10 English_ + Italian_North_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.639687
11 Dutch_ + Frisian_ + Portugese_ + Swede_Saami_ @ 1.653451
12 Irish_ + Italian_North_ + North_European_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.655633
13 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.668169
14 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.683186
15 German_ + Irish_ + Irish_ + Portugese_ @ 1.690922
16 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Italian_North_ + Norwegian_East_ + Norwegian_East_ @ 1.691695
17 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 1.700476
18 Dutch_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 1.701872
19 Irish_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 1.710152
20 Dutch_ + Irish_ + Russian_North_ + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 1.710274

matty74
08-12-19, 02:36
199. Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (2050 BC) ..... 14.23 - Rise386 -
Top 85% match vs all users

Outlier but a new one to me

Jovialis
08-12-19, 16:16
Mine :)

Neolithic Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NeolithicPattern.jpg
66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
Top
94
% match vs all users
Early Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaBronze.jpg
67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
Top
88
% match vs all users
Late Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerBronze.jpg
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
Top
94
% match vs all users
Iron Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaIron.jpg
33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
Top
93
% match vs all users

78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
Top
92
% match vs all users
Roman Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ItalyEarlyImperial.jpg
7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
Top
99
% match vs all users

20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
Top
96
% match vs all users
Dark Ages


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaVendel.jpg
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
Top
96
% match vs all users

34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
Top
98
% match vs all users
Medieval Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NorsePattern.jpg
5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
Top
98
% match vs all users

23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
Top
94
% match vs all users

24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
Top
94
% match vs all users
Early Modern Period


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerHansa.jpg
4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
Top
89
% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
Top
92
% match vs all users


Thanks for sharing!

Very interesting, more Italians, showing a relatively stronger affinity specifically for the Latins R437 and R850 in the Iron Age.

aci
10-12-19, 00:31
Thanks for sharing!

Very interesting, more Italians, showing a relatively stronger affinity specifically for the Latins R437 and R850 in the Iron Age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRz8uERFQ2g

aci
10-12-19, 00:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRz8uERFQ2g
https://i.imgur.com/Js7entu.png

torzio
10-12-19, 19:28
Thanks for sharing!

Very interesting, more Italians, showing a relatively stronger affinity specifically for the Latins R437 and R850 in the Iron Age.

Stuvane number 1 is the same as mine, clearly this adriatic sample is aligned to north-italians and maybe even Dalmatians

torzio
10-12-19, 19:32
Mine :)

Neolithic Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NeolithicPattern.jpg
66. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.81 - I3499 -
Top
94
% match vs all users
Early Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaBronze.jpg
67. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.03 - I4331 -
Top
89
% match vs all users

82. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 18.38 - I4332 -
Top
88
% match vs all users
Late Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerBronze.jpg
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.999 - R1 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

11. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 11.75 - I3313 -
Top
94
% match vs all users
Iron Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaIron.jpg
33. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.2 - scy300 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

37. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 14.45 - scy192 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

40. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.65 - scy197b - ?
Top
93
% match vs all users

78. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 17.94 - scy305 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

81. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.26 - R850 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

96. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 19.67 - R437 -
Top
92
% match vs all users
Roman Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ItalyEarlyImperial.jpg
7. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 9.626 - R107 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

12. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 11.92 - R1540
Top
99
% match vs all users

20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.76 - R117 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

21. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 12.92 - R35 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

28. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 13.74 - R114 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

29. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 13.82 - I3981 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

30. Imperial Rome Marche CN (165 AD) ..... 13.83 - R835 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

35. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 14.34 - R32 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

41. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.74 - R51 -
Top
96
% match vs all users

42. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3582 -
Top
96
% match vs all users
Dark Ages


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaVendel.jpg
2. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.512 - SZ43 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.298 - SZ36 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

6. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 8.822 - CL36 - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

8. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 9.685 - NS3b - ?
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Central Roman (670 AD) ..... 10.99 - CL121 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.36 - SZ28 - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

15. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 12.26 - NS3c - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

18. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) ..... 12.69 - CL23 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

19. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.75 - SZ32 - ?
Top
96
% match vs all users

34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) ..... 14.23 - I3575 -
Top
98
% match vs all users
Medieval Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NorsePattern.jpg
5. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 8.78 - R60 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

13. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 12.05 - R64 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

14. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.06 - R59 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

16. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.3 - R1290 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

22. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 13.01 - BSS31
Top
98
% match vs all users

23. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 13.34 - I2515
Top
94
% match vs all users

24. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 13.43 - I12515 -
Top
94
% match vs all users

25. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.44 - R57 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

26. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.68 - R52 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

27. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 13.7 - I2514
Top
94
% match vs all users
Early Modern Period


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerHansa.jpg
4. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 7.644 - I7424 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

17. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.36 - R970 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

31. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 13.92 - I7425 -
Top
95
% match vs all users

46. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.3 - OBS137 - ?
Top
89
% match vs all users

69. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.28 - R973 -
Top
93
% match vs all users

74. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 17.73 - R969 -
Top
92
% match vs all users

we basically have very similar samples in most categories

torzio
10-12-19, 19:38
only my BC samples

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users


4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users


7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ?
Top 98% match vs all users


17. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 12.35 - scy192 -
Top 97% match vs all users


24. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.52 - scy300 -
Top 97% match vs all users


30. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.25 - scy305 -
Top 96% match vs all users

31. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 97% match vs all users

32. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.39 - I4332 -
Top 94% match vs all users


37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 15.0 - I4331 -
Top 92% match vs all users


40. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.24 - scy311 -
Top 66% match vs all users

Stuvanè
10-12-19, 19:40
Stuvane number 1 is the same as mine, clearly this adriatic sample is aligned to north-italians and maybe even [email protected], in fact, it's one of those clues that deserves a more detailed examination.

There is certainly a disproportion between the researches that have focused on the North / South genetic cline of the Italians compared to those investigating the West / East cline. I am willing to bet that in that direction there would have been more than interesting results, especially since the Adriatic sea - along it by land or by sailing - was a very important geographical corridor for the population of the Peninsula

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Duarte
10-12-19, 21:25
MTA - Full Detailed Timelinehttps://i.imgur.com/0ovLJ3Y.png

Jovialis
11-12-19, 01:57
https://i.imgur.com/Iyjn0pV.gif

EASTEUROPID
11-12-19, 02:03
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/ba4cd2fad6286aaf4394bb798e848a52.gif


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Salento
11-12-19, 02:50
Default - 3D PCA Sample Analysis


https://i.imgur.com/XtULHtV.gif


https://i.imgur.com/vh8pXSj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nflkNm2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tVSG6L6.jpg

Salento
11-12-19, 07:36
... Full Circle
Genographic Project / MTA

https://i.imgur.com/U8IT7jF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/540mW2U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NaXMNFH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mD9c0Xk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jy9m9nk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zZOlIOH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yerB2Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ROOqQlN.jpg

Duarte
11-12-19, 13:40
Default - 3D PCA Sample Analysis


https://i.imgur.com/XtULHtV.gif


https://i.imgur.com/vh8pXSj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nflkNm2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tVSG6L6.jpg


... Full Circle
Genographic Project / MTA

https://i.imgur.com/U8IT7jF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/540mW2U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NaXMNFH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mD9c0Xk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jy9m9nk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zZOlIOH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yerB2Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ROOqQlN.jpg

Thanks Salento.
Most interesting in your data is the demonstration of the convergence of results provided by independent companies. You are an Italian descended from Latins (Romans) and Greeks (Magna Greece). Unquestionable. I believe that critics of the MTA should be aware that the results presented by the company are very consistent. Critics like to focus on mistakes. In fact errors must exist. There are no 100% perfect algorithms.
But we don't forget the hits, which are much more robust. The results of the MTA must be analyzed in the light of our knowledge of our own origin compared with the history of human migrations and occupations over the millennia. We cannot be short-sighted and disregard the correct bias of the results just because one, two or three individuals appear as points outside the curve. Some are scandalized by the centimeters displayed in matches with old samples. And so? It's pure statistics, most likely inspired by GEDmatch's "Q Mathing" (https://www.gedmatch.com/Documents/Qdocs.pdf). Perfectly valid for comparisons with very old and sometimes low quality samples. That's what they got. If anyone knows something better then, let's them introduce it. Science cannot wait for the absolutely perfect tool. The universe is studied through classical physics (Newton), quantum physics (Plank) and relativistic physics (Einstein). Scientists still face the ultimate challenge that is to build a unified field theory (the theory of everything) that describes all interactions in the micro and macrocosmic domains. This does not exist yet, but it does not prevent the universe from being studied and the errors be rectified when found to exist some. Evolution happens through trials and errors and not through inertia.
Cheers :) :good_job::smile:

torzio
11-12-19, 18:38
I have a new bronze-age map marker in south-germany dated as 2385BC but no ID ...........anyone have the sample it represents?

Jovialis
11-12-19, 18:58
Stuvane number 1 is the same as mine, clearly this adriatic sample is aligned to north-italians and maybe even Dalmatians

Indeed, the R1 Protovillanovan sample has a close affinity to Northern Italians. I recall there was an Albanian that also gets it as his number one (or close to it), back thread.

Initially I had it at number 72, but now R1 doesn't even show up at all. I've noticed Southern Italians have a relatively close affinity to the Latins R437 and R850.

Jovialis
11-12-19, 19:29
I think it is noteworthy to point out that Stuvane gets 437, and 850, because those samples are the only Latins I've seen Italians (north or south) get thus far.

I wonder if those other "Latin" samples are in fact Etruscans too, which is why they're very similar.

Here's my samples from the Neolthic to the Iron Age:

https://i.imgur.com/Qe1FbWW.png

Salento
11-12-19, 20:00
@Duarte Thanks for your Thoughtful Analysis :) :good_job:


@J

top 10 Late Bronze Age / Iron Age :

https://i.imgur.com/Ks211wt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kWY3rQX.jpg

Salento
11-12-19, 20:34
I have a new bronze-age map marker in south-germany dated as 2385BC but no ID ...........anyone have the sample it represents?

Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) UNTA58_68Sk1

mtDNA: J1c
Y-DNA: G2a2a1

Etruscans - Gallo Romans - Visigoths

Etruscan (3.586)
Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.776)
Visigoth + Etruscan (4.606)
Gallo-Roman (5.687)
Visigoth (6.717)

Modern Populations:
1. Spanish_Cantabria (9.440)
2. Spanish_Cataluna (10.49)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (10.74)
4. Southwest_French (10.94)
5. Spanish_Galicia (11.00)
6. Portuguese (11.22)
7. Spanish_Aragon (12.22)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (12.43)

... it’s on my weird imputed results.
fyi I don’t usually post those results, and if I do, I will say so, ... :)

Duarte
11-12-19, 23:03
I have a new bronze-age map marker in south-germany dated as 2385BC but no ID ...........anyone have the sample it represents?

@torzio

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/Mittnik_Science_2019.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/tiwyrMO.jpg

torzio
11-12-19, 23:46
@torzio
https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/Mittnik_Science_2019.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/tiwyrMO.jpg
Thanks
He is G2a2a1-L166
part of Lech valley beakers
Split is
Barcin 56.6
Yamnaya 35.4
WHG 8.1
Nothing else.......found with 3 other samples of which 2 are R1b



https://i.postimg.cc/wxZ9Yrn6/bronze-december.png



(https://postimages.org/)https://i.postimg.cc/Qx7h8brc/late-broine-december.png

what is 1563BC now.......?????
(https://postimages.org/)

Carlos
13-12-19, 15:09
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03046-w?fbclid=IwAR3W23gjFWY6RofxkDF6EydG8IlCVgqISWSCbbs 42R0sXZPsxKD1JHyXm0w

Today they will introduce these samples.

Pax Augusta
13-12-19, 16:24
I wonder if those other "Latin" samples are in fact Etruscans too, which is why they're very similar.

What does it mean? What other "Latin" samples?

They are similar because Etruscans and Latins, as already claimed by archeology, descended by similar prehistoric and protohistoric cultures.


In fact, all the archaeologists (who have a knowledge of etruscology) I have talked to, or who have talked to my friends, have all made the same comment on this study: these results are not at all a surprise.

Duarte
13-12-19, 16:36
Thanks
He is G2a2a1-L166
part of Lech valley beakers
Split is
Barcin 56.6
Yamnaya 35.4
WHG 8.1
Nothing else.......found with 3 other samples of which 2 are R1b



https://i.postimg.cc/wxZ9Yrn6/bronze-december.png



(https://postimages.org/)https://i.postimg.cc/Qx7h8brc/late-broine-december.png

what is 1563BC now.......?????
(https://postimages.org/)

@torzio

https://i.imgur.com/5jp1mof.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/d7pQBy2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7vFT1ki.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1ztr1XD.jpg

Jovialis
13-12-19, 17:08
What does it mean? What other "Latin" samples?

They are similar because Etruscans and Latins, as already claimed by archeology, descended by similar prehistoric and protohistoric cultures.


In fact, all the archaeologists (who have a knowledge of etruscology) I have talked to, or who have talked to my friends, have all made the same comment on this study: these results are not at all a surprise.

My comment is based on my observation that I have only seen Italians get the Latin samples R850 and R437, on this calculator.

What do you (they) think about those samples?

Salento
13-12-19, 18:07
What does it mean? What other "Latin" samples?

They are similar because Etruscans and Latins, as already claimed by archeology, descended by similar prehistoric and protohistoric cultures.


In fact, all the archaeologists (who have a knowledge of etruscology) I have talked to, or who have talked to my friends, have all made the same comment on this study: these results are not at all a surprise.

imho They were very different in Costumi e Cultura.

The language between the two is also very different, so much so, that to this day, no one has been able to translate l’Etrusco.

Carlos
13-12-19, 18:59
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3ptznBHaUc/XfPAQCgm_XI/AAAAAAAABsY/KpVQZKJdVw0M0SfTr4etiYljScjGjEeBwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/NORTaLPINE1789.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9QOK3p8KwwM/XfPAUEMrwzI/AAAAAAAABsc/cT2XTC2twZw56A4lVxRuj61GwDjlRuUfwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/northAlpine1663%252Cjpeg.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L8SlXD0X2WQ/XfPAY0ohHLI/AAAAAAAABsg/PYWWv2mlIJ0Bj0YNfE2ABVSdMb0AhKmNQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/northAlpine1677.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fMgm9lrK3Rk/XfPAet6s3XI/AAAAAAAABso/j2dhPCAx5_ARS2JYRG7dQsbZoSKQD8dQACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/NORTHalpine1788.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q9EGsDvBfh0/XfPAjCbOLKI/AAAAAAAABsw/qKDHsDuANSk0O2l6s5u8ORpzdsuiYmntwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/NORTHalpine1815.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mm_aSN_btmI/XfPApMz2KrI/AAAAAAAABs4/t27Es5uaSUs8BSUVsCRk8bzG51OathdqwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/nORTHalpineBRONZEAGE1797.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hral1RQz6hs/XfPArSenriI/AAAAAAAABtA/5I5HhpeN4g8eFEw3Vsf8mtFvc331r0gTACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/NORTHaLPINEsegmento.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wmxc5sr-Cbc/XfO_17XMO9I/AAAAAAAABsQ/GYvdu3BR_k8iSbX5KfuAHNkhkTA6QTspACEwYBhgL/s640/HighStatus2059.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-luY01Ool3pM/XfDurSc2k4I/AAAAAAAABqc/3OhKKuYZimYLmPYshGQt7ix6N77G5ZgxACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/SegmentosAlpesAITI_43.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LxofgPeYaks/XfDuxCQbcaI/AAAAAAAABqg/HQq9ZVfKUNs0-EPM28mK0a5Jj6PZAS_7QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/SegmentosAlpesAITI_98.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mFuCfRnDqdM/XfDu2xWWQKI/AAAAAAAABqk/7GWTfHC9wd0ldnx3mnDkACaGRXVEmUQZwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/SegmentosALPESpost_44.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U3ELHd5OBZ4/XfDu8-Le9RI/AAAAAAAABqs/dGKbqbrzdDwsZ1w30jAl1iLNtzJxdv8_QCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/SegmentosAlpesPost_50.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-adEMXF1MEpM/XfDvBKrjsUI/AAAAAAAABqw/1SOs-qbovnYFNn3Er3_2MebRZydmSP7TwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/SegmentosAlpineAITI_120.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8s9trE9S9rs/XfO_VG3ARPI/AAAAAAAABrM/z0FegTOt1-M0ZqmhAo7CNyBEwANtwJq_gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/1525NorthAlpine.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmpZyUjbYoM/XfO_YdJsKXI/AAAAAAAABrQ/f-qYkV99dyUy1rVAiaU1FwZROP85D6IoACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/1790NorthALPINE.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fgaAyxO04XY/XfO_dKIf6-I/AAAAAAAABrY/_apB0eW49bINkkWYBzIWOcbIVwNe_Dp1ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/1792Northalpine.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1zrON7TKgtQ/XfO_iot70XI/AAAAAAAABrc/B_FlvvuhquEa6lny8W5L-z_EM2wRR7hzACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/bellbeaker1873bc.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dxjGK3Bm6bM/XfO_lbferiI/AAAAAAAABrg/p7aFa--cjVYluPwgCI9s39XyuWSypqKGACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BELLbeaker2273BC.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JsRbii2pZ4g/XfO_q4PBAYI/AAAAAAAABrs/xHvr8iOEfCwcqGYJKY0iY6zT5lDnBncaACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BRONZEage1966bc.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WrZuMfT-omE/XfO_tcMHkPI/AAAAAAAABrw/bzGIuhQfhYgRn_0U6HhBvJI9n_ShQnEHQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/GERMANYbellBEAKER.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Jw9W6iX96zE/XfO_zdAKtoI/AAAAAAAABr4/Qm-W572ilRQJC9OOvO4js_VmTjUohLCHwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/HighSTATUmounHaunstetten.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rkZ5VuNsmV4/XfQ7DQ0c2MI/AAAAAAAABtU/GL4-5sHkxzg_9L6vif7T9xDEz0jrjMG8ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/bronzeageKONINGSBRUNNgERMANY.JPEG


I think I refreshed and got one more. I had heard that The Alps were mountains somewhere in Europe, but I didn't know that there had been life there due to the low temperatures, It must be very cold.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgwxnn45Ho

Yuxx
14-12-19, 00:51
Jovialis, I've got that R437 and I'm not italian:

83. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 17.26 - R437 -
Top
94% match vs all users

What do you think about it?

Salento
14-12-19, 02:03
Cultures:

R1 Protovillanovan

https://i.imgur.com/kbXNDft.jpg


R437 R850 Latin

https://i.imgur.com/3VJdGKB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ipiFt3W.jpg

Duarte
14-12-19, 02:10
Yep, I also have some ancient germanics in my life. :smile:

Your Archaeogenetic Map of Germania - GIF
https://i.imgur.com/7mq9pUN.gif

https://i.imgur.com/b9KqwzK.png
https://i.imgur.com/B9eX2Mc.png
https://i.imgur.com/T1jnTZt.png

torzio
14-12-19, 02:49
i do not know what to make of these timelines anymore.....are they legit

mine below

https://i.postimg.cc/J7ZhrZxF/tline-dec.png

what am I ...a celt, that crossed the alps and married an illyrian !!!!!


I MUST BE A
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scordisci (https://postimages.org/)

Salento
14-12-19, 03:11
R1548 Roman, R1290 Medieval Italy, R114 Roman, SZ36 / SZ40 Post-Roman, R30 (Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto) Roman ... :grin:

https://i.imgur.com/646sCvH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/K8qFljd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CSzL12N.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IMUsW6V.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/li514Do.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4oBmrNl.jpg

Pax Augusta
14-12-19, 03:28
My comment is based on my observation that I have only seen Italians get the Latin samples R850 and R437, on this calculator.

What do you (they) think about those samples?


Frankly, I wouldn't use MTA to draw any conclusions or make any assumptions.



imho They were very different in Costumi e Cultura.

The language between the two is also very different, so much so, that to this day, no one has been able to translate l’Etrusco.


They had obviously different culture but this is more evident later, after the ethnogenesis of both, it's hard to explain. But there are also some differences between Latins and other Italics.

The Etruscan language has been translated, it's difficult to make progress in the knowledge of the Etruscan language because of the type of inscriptions that have survived, which are very repetitive and short and do not allow great improvements. Besides, the literary texts in the Etruscan language didn't survive.


Archaic Latin is also very little attested, even less attested than the Etruscan language. Much of what we know about Latin comes from texts from the IV century BC onwards.

Duarte
14-12-19, 04:04
i do not know what to make of these timelines anymore.....are they legit

mine below

https://i.postimg.cc/J7ZhrZxF/tline-dec.png

what am I ...a celt, that crossed the alps and married an illyrian !!!!!


I MUST BE A
(https://postimages.org/)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scordisci


Well, torzio, who knows. You’re a Celt that crossed the Alps, kidnapped an Illyrian girl and goes to North Italy. On the other hand I am a Celt that crossed the Alps, kidnapped an Illyrian girl and goes to Iberia. Lol. Hugs. :)

Carlos
14-12-19, 04:34
It is not a PCA of mine but I would like to know what this PCA suggests? Is it possible, is it credible, is it real, is it imputed?



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-19HX09asts0/XfRJVHoZKNI/AAAAAAAABtg/RcXH-4JHvYwVpM32QudsfBDuga225YVLwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/pcaESTRA%25C3%2591A.JPEG

Salento
14-12-19, 06:23
It is not a PCA of mine but I would like to know what this PCA suggests? Is it possible, is it credible, is it real, is it imputed?



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-19HX09asts0/XfRJVHoZKNI/AAAAAAAABtg/RcXH-4JHvYwVpM32QudsfBDuga225YVLwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/pcaESTRA%25C3%2591A.JPEG


Hispanic / Latin-American!
(they’re not a race)

or @Duarte’s cousin :grin: ... a mixed great grandchild of ODESSA ?
... from Argentina, Brazil, ... could be :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA

fyi ... Hispanic and Latino are often used interchangeably though they actually mean two different things. Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish and/or are descended from Spanish-speaking populations, while Latino refers to people who are from or descended from people from Latin America ...

Duarte
14-12-19, 12:16
Hispanic / Latin-American!
(they’re not a race)

or @Duarte’s cousin :grin: ... a mixed great grandchild of ODESSA ?
... from Argentina, Brazil, ... could be :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA

fyi ... Hispanic and Latino are often used interchangeably though they actually mean two different things. Hispanic refers to people who speak Spanish and/or are descended from Spanish-speaking populations, while Latino refers to people who are from or descended from people from Latin America ...

Yes, I agree with Salento. I think that the owner of this charming PCA is a Latin American cousin. :smile:


I prefer do not have a cousin, mixed great grandchild of ODESSA. But in a mixed Brazil, everything is possible. :thinking:


In fact I know some Nazis came to Brazil. Josef Mengele, the doctor and monster from Auschwitz, known as the Angel of Death was one of them. Came to Brazil in 1961 and, with the help of Nazi sympathizers, rececived the name of Peter Hochbichler, an alleged Austrian immigrant. With the help of Nazi sympathetic immigrants he was hired by the Hungarian couple Geza and Gitta Stammer to run their coffee farm. Mengele had no qualms and Geza found out that Mengele and his wife had an affair. That was when the most wanted war criminal of all time was forced to relocate. From then on, he roamed several cities in São Paulo State. He lived in Brazil until February 7, 1979, when he drowned on the paradise beach of Bertioga, coast of the State of São Paulo. It was wanted alive or dead and the reward was $ 3.4 million. His son Rolf Jenckel, now a lawyer in Munich, Germany, has never requested his father's body and his skeleton has been used since 2016 as teaching material in forensic medicine classes at the University of São Paulo - USP. :petrified:

Jovialis
14-12-19, 16:20
Jovialis, I've got that R437 and I'm not italian:

83. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 17.26 - R437 -
Top
94% match vs all users

What do you think about it?




I don't know, but I do know I have a relatively close similarity to Southern Albanians. Perhaps that may have something to do with it.

Jovialis
14-12-19, 16:41
Frankly, I wouldn't use MTA to draw any conclusions or make any assumptions.
They had obviously different culture but this is more evident later, after the ethnogenesis of both, it's hard to explain. But there are also some differences between Latins and other Italics.
The Etruscan language has been translated, it's difficult to make progress in the knowledge of the Etruscan language because of the type of inscriptions that have survived, which are very repetitive and short and do not allow great improvements. Besides, the literary texts in the Etruscan language didn't survive.
Archaic Latin is also very little attested, even less attested than the Etruscan language. Much of what we know about Latin comes from texts from the IV century BC onwards.
But what is your (their) take on those samples though? Even without MTA, I would assume I have a close affinity to R850 and R437, they plot close to southern Italians. Plus, the study models them consistent to what we assume about bronze-age/ iron age southern Italy. (High in Anatolian_N+CHG/IN)

torzio
14-12-19, 19:19
But what is your (their) take on those samples though? Even without MTA I would assumed I would have a close affinity to R850 and R437, they plot close to southern Italians. Plus, the study models them consistent to what we assume about bronze-age/ iron age southern Italy. (High in Anatolian_N+CHG/IN)

Yes R850 has 48% of Anatolian north or as some say Barcin

but this is what one reports says

As a conclusion, individual R850 carries ancestry equal to and very similar to "Copper Age Anatolia", "Greece_Mycenaean", "Anatolia_MLBA" and "Anatolia_IA.SG". So individual R850 has a contitunity of ancestry from Copper Age until the Iron Age of Anatolia and is is very close to Mycenaean from the Aegean. This pattern is not seen in the preceding and other individuals. The study mentions that individual R850 carries more ancestry from the incoming source, showing that he is an Early Iron Age migrant from Anatolian / Aegean region and fits an ancestry pattern of the thesis of "minority migrant elite Etruscans". This pattern is clearly indicating the migration mentioned in the ancient sources made by the Pelasgian population. The Rutuli is also clearly an Etruscan elite group located in the Ardean city (in a region in which the Latins are majority), and probably related to the ancestry of early Iron Age Etruscan kings in Rome (whom became Latinized in the subsequent periods).

The Etruscan female individual R475 carries ~53% ancestry from Late Neolithic Moroccan. Late Neolithic Moroccan ancestry is most likely related to the 3000 BCE, the Neolithic site of Kelif el Boroud (Fregel et al 2018). The individual with id "KEB" belonged to Y-haplogroup T-CTS2214 living on the Atlantic coast. So, although individual R475 is an Etruscan female, the ancestry can also be related to the timeline of Y-haplogroup T . The Late Neolithic site of Kelif el Boroud is also probably related to the Eneolithic / Chalcolithic geographical migration of a population mentioned in the Harney et al 2018 study, the Late Chalcolithic Peqi'in people from the Levant with Y-haplogroup T were hypothesized to come from the earlier Neolithic Northern Anatolian region with specific ancestry from "Anatolia_N" and "Iran_Chl" (this is not seen in the preceding and subsequent Levantine populations). These T people left the Levant through Anatolia and eventually to Iberia, crossing the sea to Morocco. There is no T-CTS2214 in North Africa except in Morocco with the KEB sample. The "Anatolia_N" ancestry among the Peqi'in people is unique.

Jovialis
14-12-19, 20:17
Although there is no direct historical or genetic information about the origins of Rome, archaeological evidence suggests that in the early Iron Age, it was a small city-state, among many culturally and politically similar Etruscan and Latin neighbors (24–26). Their contact with Greek and Phoenician-Punic colonies is evident in the incorporation of materials not available locally, such as ivory, amber, and ostrich eggshell, and design motifs such as lions, sphinxes, and palmettes, into Etruscan art and culture (3, 6).
The Iron Age individuals exhibit highly variable ancestries, hinting at multiple sources of migration into the region during this period (Figs. 2A and 3B). Although we were able to model eight of the 11 individuals as two-way mixtures of Copper Age central Italians and a Steppe-related population (~24 to 38%) using qpAdm, this model was rejected for the other three individuals (p < 0.001; table S16). Instead, two individuals from Latin sites (R437 and R850) can be modeled as a mixture between local people and an ancient Near Eastern population (best approximated by Bronze Age Armenian or Iron Age Anatolian; tables S17 and S18). An Etruscan individual (R475) carries significant African ancestry identified by f-statistics (|Z-score|>3; fig. S23) and can be modeled with ~53% ancestry from Late Neolithic Moroccan (table S19). Together these results suggest substantial genetic heterogeneity within the Etruscan (n = 3 individuals) and Latin (n = 6) groups. However, using f-statistics, we did not find significant genetic differentiation between the Etruscans and Latins in allele sharing with any preceding or contemporaneous population (|Z-score|<2), although the power to detect subtle genetic differentiation is limited by the small sample size.
An excerpt from the study.

4 of the 6 Latins were similar to Etruscans.

It is a small sample size, so one could look at those 2 "outliers" as accounting for 1/3rd or 33% of the Latin samples.

I think that's significant.

Yuxx
14-12-19, 20:28
@jovialis: Yes maybe, we can only see if other albanians share.

Salento
15-12-19, 20:15
Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/u29HvsP.gif

Duarte
15-12-19, 20:39
Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/u29HvsP.gif

Cool Salento. :good_job::smile:

Salento
16-12-19, 02:08
@Duarte
Thanks, 🏛️ 🐺 👍 😀

Pax Augusta
16-12-19, 20:50
But what is your (their) take on those samples though? Even without MTA, I would assume I have a close affinity to R850 and R437, they plot close to southern Italians. Plus, the study models them consistent to what we assume about bronze-age/ iron age southern Italy. (High in Anatolian_N+CHG/IN)


I don't think the MTA is an accurate tool so I don't have any take.

To draw further conclusions we need more samples, and of course also those from southern Italy between Bronze and Iron Age.

It only takes patience, it is useless to spend time now formulating hypotheses without further information. In my opinion.

Salento
16-12-19, 22:38
These Ancient samples found in Italy are a close enough match to the Italians.
I don't see where the problem is.

... 23andme (old v4):

Top 40
https://i.imgur.com/DE9FBEQ.jpg

Deep Dive (cM)
https://i.imgur.com/5ksH8bG.jpg

Carlos
18-12-19, 05:04
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DyUwzvTc92M/XfmWvLJJAoI/AAAAAAAABts/gi4Wk5Z-rYEZX7Wg8kk9JFZV_PvVvbhhACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/PCAsimpaticona2kits.JPEG

Me and the other

PCA 2 kits

Jovialis
19-12-19, 23:06
I was able to convert the BAM file of R850 into AncestryDNA format. I tried to upload it to Gedmatch, but it didn't work, but it does on MTA. I'm waiting on the results from the All format file.

Interesting results, it is almost all blue for the Deep dive, but it get's itself as number 17 at 13.22 distance. Keep in mind, this is in Ancestry format:


https://i.imgur.com/S8cR0tU.png
https://i.imgur.com/kjnKCIh.png
https://i.imgur.com/FxMBbll.png
https://i.imgur.com/sj0zFli.png

torzio
19-12-19, 23:14
Cultures:

R1 Protovillanovan

https://i.imgur.com/kbXNDft.jpg


R437 R850 Latin

https://i.imgur.com/3VJdGKB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ipiFt3W.jpg

Nin town and area are Liburnian people

https://www.dalmatia-heritage.com/post/liburnian-settlements-aenona

Carlos
21-12-19, 00:30
They have loaded samples of the Kingdom of Tartessos. Oh my good !!!

Salento
21-12-19, 22:22
@Jovialis ... got the same error at GedMatch, good at yourdnaportal.

.Bam to Combined

R437 Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS 300 BC


https://i.imgur.com/O73znz5.png

https://i.imgur.com/yRjazkQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2eOl3MR.png

https://i.imgur.com/RdtpFRG.png

https://i.imgur.com/s6Qd3MZ.png

Salento
24-12-19, 04:38
Q-Matching 1-to-1 with R1
(Comb. R1 Kit # on Pic)

Total cM: 124.28
Largest segment cM 4.09
Total segments 95

https://i.imgur.com/4B3u1kt.gif

Salento
24-12-19, 05:11
R1 is a Woman, and according to the data results, her parents are NOT related ... Interesting ...

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 0.0 cM
No shared DNA segments found
No indication that your parents are related.

torzio
24-12-19, 05:53
R1 is a Woman, and according to the data results, her parents are NOT related ... Interesting ...
Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 0.0 cM
No shared DNA segments found
No indication that your parents are related.
Not related , what you mean..
I thought she was born in Liburnia and migrated to Picene lands with one parent....a serf/slave of the house

Salento
24-12-19, 06:17
Not related , what you mean..
I thought she was born in Liburnia and migrated to Picene lands with one parent....a serf/slave of the house
is she part of Your Childhood memories? :grin: LOL

I mean that her parents are not closely related. IE not cousins!
(or maybe, one of them is not a Local)

... R1 Top 10 by Era:
https://i.imgur.com/4bn3ZvU.gif
https://i.imgur.com/ETVlszd.gif

torzio
24-12-19, 06:54
Neolithic Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NeolithicPattern.jpg
32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 98% match vs all users
Early Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaBronze.jpg
33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.39 - I4332 -
Top 95% match vs all users

38. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 15.0 - I4331 -
Top 93% match vs all users

93. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 19.25 - OTTM_151ind2 - = Celtic Bavarian woman, mtdna X2b
Top 94% match vs all users

Late Bronze Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerBronze.jpg
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users
Iron Age


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaIron.jpg
7. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 10.0 - scy197b - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

17. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 12.35 - scy192 -
Top 97% match vs all users

24. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.52 - scy300 -
Top 98% match vs all users

31. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.25 - scy305 -
Top 96% match vs all users

41. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.24 - scy311 -
Top 62% match vs all users

65. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 16.7 - DA195 - found in Hungaria woman, mtdna H
Top 92% match vs all users

84. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 18.58 - DA198 - found in Hungaria, G-PF3378, mtdna H7a1
Top 94% match vs all users

94. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 19.26 - scy304 - found in Moldova R1b-Z2103
Top 95% match vs all users

Salento
24-12-19, 07:23
@Torzio R1 top 100:

https://i.imgur.com/GAlNMn8.gif

torzio
24-12-19, 07:33
@Torzio R1 top 100:

https://i.imgur.com/GAlNMn8.gif


yourself, myself and Stuvane all have R1 as the top .................My R1 went from 4 's to 5 ......and other sample took some admixture points via ancient hungaria

Salento
24-12-19, 07:47
yourself, myself and Stuvane all have R1 as the top .................My R1 went from 4 's to 5 ......and other sample took some admixture points via ancient hungaria
not me, not my results!
... those are all the real R1 sample results.

I loaded on MTA the R1 raw-data that Jovialis posted.

I wrote R1 at the top, ...

These are my results:

https://i.imgur.com/tVSG6L6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yerB2Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vh8pXSj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nflkNm2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PioarOM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Pu3DO8j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MKlk7kR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FrYuqmR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kVUyblv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/v3m67es.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CrG12OB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xnrWogc.jpg

matty74
24-12-19, 12:40
lol what the heck?

https://i.imgur.com/GRKmWkX.jpg

Angela
24-12-19, 14:33
@Torzio R1 top 100:

https://i.imgur.com/GAlNMn8.gif
R1 and I get the same top matches, but I'm closer or the same. Well, except to R1, of course. :)

R1/Me

R1: 4.134-6.241
SZ43: 6.232-3.614
SZ36: 6.714-4.508
CL36: 6.768-6.778



Did you run her for closeness to modern populations?

Salento
24-12-19, 15:28
R1 and I get the same top matches, but I'm closer or the same. Well, except to R1, of course. :)
R1/Me
R1: 4.134-6.241
SZ43: 6.232-3.614
SZ36: 6.714-4.508
CL36: 6.768-6.778

Did you run her for closeness to modern populations?

... GedMatch EUtest V2 K15
Kit Num: AG4512653)

R1 Oracle

Single Population Sharing:
1 North_Italian 6.14
2 Tuscan 6.17
3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.89
4 West_Sicilian 11.02
5 Greek 11.31
6 Spanish_Andalucia 11.34
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.51
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.59
9 Bulgarian 11.87
10 Portuguese 12.23

Mixed mode
1 59.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.3% Southwest_French @2.77

torzio
24-12-19, 17:51
... GedMatch EUtest V2 K15
Kit Num: AG4512653)

R1 Oracle

Single Population Sharing:
1 North_Italian 6.14
2 Tuscan 6.17
3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.89
4 West_Sicilian 11.02
5 Greek 11.31
6 Spanish_Andalucia 11.34
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.51
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.59
9 Bulgarian 11.87
10 Portuguese 12.23

Mixed mode
1 59.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.3% Southwest_French @2.77

dodecad

Kit AG4512653

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
Atlantic_Baltic
53.32


2
Southern
26.58


3
West_Asian
17.95


4
Siberian
1.34


5
African
0.81



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
N_Italian (Dodecad)
3.88


2
O_Italian (Dodecad)
5


3
Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)
5.16


4
Bulgarian (Dodecad)
5.66


5
North_Italian (HGDP)
5.67


6
Romanians (Behar)
5.76


7
Tuscan (HGDP)
7.15


8
TSI30 (Metspalu)
7.29


9
Baleares (1000Genomes)






and myself below


#
Population
Percent


1
Atlantic_Baltic
55.64


2
Southern
26.19


3
West_Asian
17.43


4
South_Asian
0.52


5
African
0.21





Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
N_Italian (Dodecad)
2.53


2
North_Italian (HGDP)
4.96


3
Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)
5.33


4
Romanians (Behar)
5.54


5
Bulgarian (Dodecad)
6.18


6
O_Italian (Dodecad)
6.83


7
TSI30 (Metspalu)
8.82


8
Tuscan (HGDP)
8.83


9
Baleares (1000Genomes)
9.69

torzio
24-12-19, 17:59
my k13

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
29.84


2
West_Med
22.93


3
East_Med
17.25


4
Baltic
17.03


5
West_Asian
8.43


6
Red_Sea
2.31


7
South_Asian
0.93


8
East_Asian
0.67


9
Sub-Saharan
0.34


10
Oceanian
0.26



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
North_Italian
5.98


2
Tuscan
9.42


3
Romanian
10.1


4
Bulgarian
11.17




and R1 below

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit AG4512653

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
28.96


2
West_Med
21.67


3
East_Med
19.76


4
Baltic
13.59


5
West_Asian
9.75


6
Red_Sea
3.53


7
Siberian
1.33


8
Amerindian
0.95


9
Oceanian
0.45



Single Population Sharing:



#
Population (source)
Distance


1
North_Italian
5.57


2
Tuscan
6.06


3
Greek_Thessaly
10.44


4
Italian_Abruzzo
11.07


5
Romanian
11.51


6
West_Sicilian
11.88


7
Bulgarian
11.98



Mixed Mode Population Sharing: note, no North-italian is noted in the mixed mode, Tuscan is north-italian + Tuscan



#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

51.6%
Central_Greek
+
48.4%
French
@
2


2

78.2%
Tuscan
+
21.8%
Austrian
@
2.34


3

80.2%
Tuscan
+
19.8%
East_German
@
2.4


4

85.3%
Tuscan
+
14.7%
North_Swedish
@
2.43


5

50.4%
East_Sicilian
+
49.6%
French
@
2.51


6

78.4%
Tuscan
+
21.6%
Hungarian
@
2.53

Jovialis
24-12-19, 19:29
@Salento,

Interestingly, the only Latin that R1 has a connection to is R437.

Though perhaps to more after 100.

Salento
25-12-19, 01:13
@Salento,
Interestingly, the only Latin that R1 has a connection to is R437.
Though perhaps to more after 100.
I only get 100 samples (normal Zeus) for now :)


Buon Natale a Tutti


🎄

Carlos
25-12-19, 02:06
1. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 8.765 - I12034 -
Top
99% match vs all users

2. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.032 - FN_2
Top
99% match vs all users

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 9.04 - FN_2
Top
99% match vs all users

4. Iberian / Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 9.106 - CL94 -
Top
98% match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 9.529 - I10866 -
Top
99% match vs all users

6. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 10.09 - I3499 -
Top
99% match vs all users

7. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 10.31 - R474 -
Top
99% match vs all users

8. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 10.35 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
Top
99% match vs all users

9. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.75 - I3313 -
Top
96% match vs all users

10. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.21 - R109 -
Top
99% match vs all users

11. Medieval Iberian (580 AD) ..... 11.31 - CL23 -
Top
98% match vs all users

12. High Status Male Haunstetten (2059 BC) ..... 11.38 - POST_44 -
Top
99% match vs all users

13. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.46 - R105 -
Top
98% match vs all users

14. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 11.51 - LM_406_T -
Top
98% match vs all users

15. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.54 - R110 -
Top
99% match vs all users

16. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 11.72 - R63 -
Top
99% match vs all users

17. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.78 - R108 -
Top
96% match vs all users

18. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 11.94 - R1221 -
Top
96% match vs all users

19. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 -
Top
99% match vs all users

20. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 12.19 - I4556 -
Top
99% match vs all users

21. North Alpine Bronze Age (1677 BC) ..... 12.2 - AITI_98 -
Top
99% match vs all users

22. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.56 - R33 -
Top
96% match vs all users

23. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 12.63 - I12640 -
Top
99% match vs all users

24. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.75 - I12878 -
Top
99% match vs all users

25. North Alpine Bronze Age (1794 BC) ..... 12.9 - AITI_43 -
Top
98% match vs all users

26. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.39 - I3320 -
Top
99% match vs all users

27. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 13.4 - scy300 -
Top
98% match vs all users

28. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 13.4 - CL47b
Top
72% match vs all users

29. Medieval Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 13.45 - CL57 -
Top
90% match vs all users

30. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 13.46 - STR_535 -
Top
99% match vs all users

31. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 13.46 - I3585 -
Top
96% match vs all users

32. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 13.49 - I3238 -
Top
99% match vs all users

33. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 13.63 - I8475 -
Top
98% match vs all users

34. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 13.64 - R473 -
Top
98% match vs all users

35. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 13.81 - R1021 -
Top
99% match vs all users

36. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 13.84 - R1289 -
Top
99% match vs all users

37. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 13.88 - R116 -
Top
98% match vs all users

38. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 13.89 - DA198 -
Top
97% match vs all users

39. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ28 - ?
Top
94% match vs all users

40. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.01 - I4331 -
Top
94% match vs all users

41. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.06 - R55 -
Top
93% match vs all users

42. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 14.14 - I12879 -
Top
99% match vs all users

43. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.25 - I4332 -
Top
95% match vs all users

44. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 14.25 - I12208 -
Top
99% match vs all users

45. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.27 - I2416-BB -
Top
99% match vs all users

46. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.28 - scy197b - ?
Top
94% match vs all users

47. High Status Burial Mound Haunstetten (2112 BC) ..... 14.38 - POST_50 -
Top
99% match vs all users

48. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1563 BC) ..... 14.42 - OTTM_151ind2 -
Top
98% match vs all users

49. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.42 - I3759 -
Top
99% match vs all users

50. North Alpine Bronze Age (1797 BC) ..... 14.51 - AITI_66 -
Top
99% match vs all users

51. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.55 - I12514 -
Top
93% match vs all users

52. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 14.55 - PCA36 - ?
Top
80% match vs all users

53. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.59 - I2649
Top
95% match vs all users

54. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 14.59 - I3758 -
Top
99% match vs all users

55. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.61 - SI-40 -
Top
98% match vs all users

56. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.62 - I7498 -
Top
95% match vs all users

57. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339 -
Top
99% match vs all users

58. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 14.64 - I12515 -
Top
93% match vs all users

59. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.67 - MJ12 -
Top
98% match vs all users

60. North Alpine Bronze Age (1752 BC) ..... 14.69 - AITI_120 -
Top
84% match vs all users

61. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.69 - R1287 -
Top
96% match vs all users

62. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.73 - I3777 -
Top
99% match vs all users

63. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.75 - I12410 -
Top
99% match vs all users

64. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.78 - I2472 -
Top
99% match vs all users

65. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.87 - scy305 -
Top
96% match vs all users

66. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 15.05 - R435 -
Top
99% match vs all users

67. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.08 - scy192 -
Top
94% match vs all users

68. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 15.24 - OBS137 - ?
Top
90% match vs all users

69. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 15.28 - R61 -
Top
88% match vs all users

70. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 15.36 - I2515
Top
93% match vs all users

71. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 15.38 - I8209 -
Top
99% match vs all users

72. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 15.54 - I7497 -
Top
98% match vs all users

73. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.66 - scy311 -
Top
59% match vs all users

74. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 15.68 - I8214 -
Top
99% match vs all users

75. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 15.71 - I2478 -
Top
99% match vs all users

76. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.77 - I7673 -
Top
99% match vs all users

77. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 15.88 - R1015 -
Top
98% match vs all users

78. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.95 - I12516 -
Top
96% match vs all users

79. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 15.96 - Niedertiefenbach1 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

80. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.03 - I12644 -
Top
96% match vs all users

81. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 16.07 - AITI_78 -
Top
53% match vs all users

82. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 16.23 - SLC1006 - ?
Top
91% match vs all users

83. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.23 - VAD001 -
Top
99% match vs all users

84. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 16.3 - R1285 -
Top
96% match vs all users

85. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 16.35 - LM_306_T -
Top
48% match vs all users

86. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.35 - I12171 -
Top
99% match vs all users

87. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 -
Top
95% match vs all users

88. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.49 - I2644
Top
95% match vs all users

89. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 16.5 - AEH_1 - ?
Top
96% match vs all users

90. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 16.58 - I7425 -
Top
93% match vs all users

91. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 16.6 - I3493 -
Top
99% match vs all users

92. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 16.61 - I12641 -
Top
97% match vs all users

93. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.67 - I3327 -
Top
99% match vs all users

94. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.7 - I2514
Top
91% match vs all users

95. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 16.7 - Niedertiefenbach20
Top
99% match vs all users

96. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (1873 BC) ..... 16.73 - UNTA58_153 -
Top
98% match vs all users

97. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.78 - scy304 -
Top
98% match vs all users

98. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.9 - I7457 -
Top
97% match vs all users

99. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 16.97 - R1 -
Top
89% match vs all users

100. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 17.01 - I3321 -
Top
99% match vs all users

Carlos
25-12-19, 02:08
101. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 17.02 - SZ45 -
Top
63% match vs all users

102. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 17.04 - I6490 -
Top
99% match vs all users

103. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 17.12 - R37 -
Top
99% match vs all users

104. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 17.17 - R1220 -
Top
52% match vs all users

105. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 17.17 - BIM33
Top
65% match vs all users

106. North Alpine Bronze Age (1815 BC) ..... 17.24 - AITI_72 -
Top
68% match vs all users

107. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.36 - I12877 -
Top
99% match vs all users

108. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 17.38 - CL47 - ?
Top
42% match vs all users

109. Bronze Age Koenigsbrunn Germany (2012 BC) ..... 17.44 - OBKR_50 -
Top
99% match vs all users

110. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 17.48 - KT09 - ?
Top
69% match vs all users

111. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 -
Top
99% match vs all users

112. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 17.51 - R851 -
Top
99% match vs all users

113. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 -
Top
93% match vs all users

114. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 17.6 - I1840 -
Top
99% match vs all users

115. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 17.64 - OBS116 - ?
Top
47% match vs all users

116. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 17.66 - VAD005 -
Top
99% match vs all users

117. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 17.78 - I8203 -
Top
98% match vs all users

118. North Alpine Bronze Age (1788 BC) ..... 17.85 - AITI_40 -
Top
65% match vs all users

119. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 17.88 - R36 -
Top
90% match vs all users

120. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 17.94 - CL63 - ?
Top
40% match vs all users

121. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.08 - Rise577 -
Top
41% match vs all users

122. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 18.18 - NS3c - ?
Top
90% match vs all users

123. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 18.28 - I12561 -
Top
99% match vs all users

124. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 18.33 - R1016 -
Top
99% match vs all users

125. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 18.36 - I7675 -
Top
99% match vs all users

126. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 18.36 - I12649 -
Top
88% match vs all users

127. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 18.47 - VO10207
Top
99% match vs all users

128. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 18.52 - DA195 -
Top
84% match vs all users

129. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1525 BC) ..... 18.54 - OTTM_156 -
Top
99% match vs all users

130. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 18.56 - GTE-A1 -
Top
42% match vs all users

131. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 18.61 - Niedertiefenbach27 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

132. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1966 BC) ..... 18.67 - POST_28 -
Top
58% match vs all users

133. North Alpine Bronze Age (1950 BC) ..... 18.67 - AITI_70 -
Top
70% match vs all users

134. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 18.75 - R62 -
Top
38% match vs all users

135. High Status North Alpine Bronze Age (1789 BC) ..... 18.78 - AITI_119 -
Top
78% match vs all users

136. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 18.8 - I12645 -
Top
94% match vs all users

137. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 18.85 - R111 -
Top
95% match vs all users

138. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 18.86 - I4055 -
Top
93% match vs all users

139. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 18.89 - DA111 -
Top
93% match vs all users

140. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 18.92 - I2471 -
Top
99% match vs all users

141. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 18.96 - I3776 -
Top
99% match vs all users

142. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 19.0 - Niedertiefenbach37 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

143. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.01 - I2470 -
Top
99% match vs all users

144. North Alpine Bronze Age (1791 BC) ..... 19.12 - AITI_2 -
Top
56% match vs all users

145. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.12 - I12647 -
Top
91% match vs all users

146. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2273 BC) ..... 19.28 - UNTA85_1343 -
Top
42% match vs all users

147. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 19.38 - DA199 -
Top
43% match vs all users

148. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 19.58 - 6DRIF-22 -
Top
38% match vs all users

149. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 19.59 - I12032 -
Top
35% match vs all users

150. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.78 - VAD004 -
Top
99% match vs all users

151. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.79 - I2647
Top
90% match vs all users

152. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.86 - I7162 -
Top
99% match vs all users

153. Thuringii Tribe (420 AD) ..... 19.89 - AED_1108 -
Top
35% match vs all users

154. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 19.91 - CL36 - ?
Top
83% match vs all users

155. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 19.96 - I3874 -
Top
55% match vs all users

156. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 19.97 - CL102 - ?
Top
32% match vs all users

157. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 19.97 - AED513 - ?
Top
44% match vs all users

158. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 20.25 - I3582 -
Top
91% match vs all users

159. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 20.28 - G274 -
Top
99% match vs all users

160. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 20.54 - I3757 -
Top
99% match vs all users

161. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 20.61 - Niedertiefenbach33 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

162. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 20.68 - I3490 -
Top
99% match vs all users

163. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.68 - I2458 -
Top
40% match vs all users

164. Medieval Tyrolian (580 AD) ..... 20.72 - CL53 -
Top
32% match vs all users

165. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.74 - I12162 -
Top
34% match vs all users

166. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 21.0 - R121 -
Top
95% match vs all users

167. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 21.04 - I12642 -
Top
99% match vs all users

168. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 21.1 - ATP9 -
Top
99% match vs all users

169. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1440 AD) ..... 21.18 - R1219 -
Top
40% match vs all users

170. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 21.39 - G397 -
Top
47% match vs all users

171. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 21.41 - Niedertiefenbach21 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

172. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 -
Top
99% match vs all users

173. High Status Bronze Age Wehringen (1865 BC) ..... 21.48 - WEHR_1586 -
Top
72% match vs all users

174. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 21.49 - SZ18 -
Top
29% match vs all users

175. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.51 - I5471 -
Top
34% match vs all users

176. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.51 - I3576 -
Top
88% match vs all users

177. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 21.6 - SZ23 -
Top
33% match vs all users

178. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.61 - I1388 -
Top
99% match vs all users

179. North Alpine Bronze Age (1755 BC) ..... 21.63 - AITI_95 -
Top
99% match vs all users

180. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 21.63 - Niedertiefenbach10 - ?
Top
99% match vs all users

181. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 21.64 - MJ37 -
Top
39% match vs all users

182. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.66 - ORE-A1 -
Top
38% match vs all users

183. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 21.66 - HinxtonO2 -
Top
38% match vs all users

184. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.79 - I7424 -
Top
86% match vs all users

185. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 21.86 - 3DRIF-16 -
Top
35% match vs all users

186. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.96 - I3581 -
Top
90% match vs all users

187. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 22.03 - R32 -
Top
89% match vs all users

188. Justinian Plague Victim (760 AD) ..... 22.06 - LSD021 - ?
Top
87% match vs all users

189. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 22.1 - MS10614 - ?
Top
97% match vs all users

190. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 22.11 - LM_213_T -
Top
99% match vs all users

191. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 22.29 - SZ43 -
Top
82% match vs all users

192. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 22.35 - AED125b - ?
Top
38% match vs all users

193. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix (410 AD) ..... 22.37 - STR_328 -
Top
48% match vs all users

194. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 22.4 - NS3b - ?
Top
80% match vs all users

195. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 22.46 - SZ38 - ?
Top
31% match vs all users

196. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 22.47 - BIM_33 -
Top
31% match vs all users

197. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 22.5 - DA194 -
Top
38% match vs all users

198. Proto-Celtic Child Bronze Age Wehringen (1957 BC) ..... 22.53 - WEHR_1415child -
Top
42% match vs all users

199. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 22.64 - R1283 -
Top
89% match vs all users

200. Germanic Tribe Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 22.72 - R106 -
Top
40% match vs all users

Jovialis
25-12-19, 05:31
I only get 100 samples (normal Zeus) for now :)


Buon Natale a Tutti

🎄

Merry Christmas Salento, and to all my friends on Eupedia!

Jovialis
25-12-19, 19:07
I have R1, R437, and R850 uploaded to MTA, in AncestryDNA format. They are actually a bit closer to themselves, in that format than the WGS combined format.

Here are some interesting observations I've made between these samples in the Regional Archeogenetic map of Ancient Rome:



R1 is only linked to R437, among the Antonio M. et al 2019 Iron Age samples. There is a connection in the Roman Republican period.




R437 is linked to R1 in the Bronze age, and R850 in the Iron Age.




R850 is only linked to R437 in the Roman Republican period.


My speculation is perhaps the Latins were a merger of R1-like, and R850-like admixture.

R1+R850=R437

I can produce GIF of my observations. But I'm a little busy helping with Christmas dinner at the moment, so maybe not today. :smile:

Salento
25-12-19, 20:16
I have R1, R437, and R850 uploaded to MTA, in AncestryDNA format. They are actually a bit closer to themselves, in that format than the WGS combined format.

Here are some interesting observations I've made between these samples in the Regional Archeogenetic map of Ancient Rome:



R1 is only linked to R437, among the Antonio M. et al 2019 Iron Age samples. There is a connection in the Roman Republican period.




R437 is linked to R1 in the Bronze age, and R850 in the Iron Age.




R850 is only linked to R437 in the Roman Republican period.


My speculation is perhaps the Latins were a merger of R1-like, and R850-like admixture.

R1+R850=R437

I can produce GIF of my observations. But I'm a little busy helping with Christmas dinner at the moment, so maybe not today. :smile:

Thanks :)

MTA Kit Comparison
R437 vs R1 (Comb. Format):

https://i.imgur.com/CY3kSSX.jpg

Salento
25-12-19, 20:52
R1 (white) vs Me (Gray):
https://i.imgur.com/AZw8rsF.jpg


R437 vs Me
(... except for 2 dots, we’re almost identical):
https://i.imgur.com/kmSSB44.jpg


Salento vs Me :grin:
https://i.Imgur.com/zZOlIOH.jpg

Angela
26-12-19, 01:13
... GedMatch EUtest V2 K15
Kit Num: AG4512653)

R1 Oracle

Single Population Sharing:
1 North_Italian 6.14
2 Tuscan 6.17
3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.89
4 West_Sicilian 11.02
5 Greek 11.31
6 Spanish_Andalucia 11.34
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.51
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.59
9 Bulgarian 11.87
10 Portuguese 12.23

Mixed mode
1 59.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.3% Southwest_French @2.77

Interesting. I'm close to 5 for both North Italian and Tuscan in Eurogenes.

So much for there's been no continuity in Italy.

Jovialis
26-12-19, 05:09
I have R1, R437, and R850 uploaded to MTA, in AncestryDNA format. They are actually a bit closer to themselves, in that format than the WGS combined format.

Here are some interesting observations I've made between these samples in the Regional Archeogenetic map of Ancient Rome:



R1 is only linked to R437, among the Antonio M. et al 2019 Iron Age samples. There is a connection in the Roman Republican period.




R437 is linked to R1 in the Bronze age, and R850 in the Iron Age.




R850 is only linked to R437 in the Roman Republican period.


My speculation is perhaps the Latins were a merger of R1-like, and R850-like admixture.

R1+R850=R437

I can produce GIF of my observations. But I'm a little busy helping with Christmas dinner at the moment, so maybe not today. :smile:

https://i.imgur.com/cGOmIUd.jpg

torzio
26-12-19, 08:33
https://i.imgur.com/cGOmIUd.jpg


thanks

i do not know if they are linked or not

but , I get R1 as my #1 choice and the other 2 do not appear in my first 100

Jovialis
26-12-19, 15:36
thanks

i do not know if they are linked or not

but , I get R1 as my #1 choice and the other 2 do not appear in my first 100

Idk, but R1 gets only R437 in the Republican era, and not to any others from the Iron age samples.

R1 also has a relatively strong affinity to Scythians and Illyrians.

850 has a relatively strong affinity to copper age Anatolia; in the study, it says it can form a clade with it.

Among those three samples, I noticed only 437 has a link to the Sicily Beaker in the Bronze Age.

Jovialis
26-12-19, 15:56
Another important observation is the link these Iron age samples have to future samples, like the Imperial era. Samples that the study tries to argue changed Rome in the Imperial era.

Well I guess the fact that Latins from the previous eras get those samples too, confounds that narrative.

Salento
26-12-19, 16:07
thanks

i do not know if they are linked or not

but , I get R1 as my #1 choice and the other 2 do not appear in my first 100

R1 get R120 (y T1a2 - T-L446) in the Top 100, what about you ???

R850 (also a y T), R437 and I do Not get R120 in the top 100.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38222-Mytrueancestry-com?p=593611&viewfull=1#post593611

torzio
26-12-19, 17:51
R1 get R120 (y T1a2 - T-L446) in the Top 100, what about you ???

R850 (also a y T), R437 and I do Not get R120 in the top 100.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/38222-Mytrueancestry-com?p=593611&viewfull=1#post593611

R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users

torzio
26-12-19, 17:55
Idk, but R1 gets only R437 in the Republican era, and not to any others from the Iron age samples.

R1 also has a relatively strong affinity to Scythians and Illyrians.

850 has a relatively strong affinity to copper age Anatolia; in the study, it says it can form a clade with it.

Among those three samples, I noticed only 437 has a link to the Sicily Beaker in the Bronze Age.


Yes, R1 is very strong with Scythians, Illyrians and Thracians ............I get all Dalmatians and all Scythians ( moldova )

I get zero samples with Anatolia or levant ( except a crusader from 1000AD )

Jovialis
26-12-19, 18:39
Another interesting observation is that the Latin Prenestini R437 has a relatively strong affinity to the Imperial Prenestini R436; as do I.

Salento
26-12-19, 18:57
R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users



I do not, I get this instead:

https://i.imgur.com/zlXnRlC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CXPrKHK.jpg

torzio
26-12-19, 20:33
I do not, I get this instead:
https://i.imgur.com/zlXnRlC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CXPrKHK.jpg


seems like in MTA......you went to europe via south of the black sea .......and I , north of the black sea


i only get this

32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 98% match vs all users


the sochi one

and one from 900BC

these are the Thracians I get

torzio
26-12-19, 21:38
Yes, R1 is very strong with Scythians, Illyrians and Thracians ............I get all Dalmatians and all Scythians ( moldova )

I get zero samples with Anatolia or levant ( except a crusader from 1000AD )


I do not get any Greek or southern balkans either in anything in MTA .........


I get this in my heritage
Ethnicity EstimateYou have 3 ethnicities
Italian 70.2%

Balkan 15.6%

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 14.2%

torzio
27-12-19, 03:55
R120 .............I do not get in my top 100

CL23 the other T ydna is my #14 ...........................I do not know why they state this as iberian, when he is born in bulgaria, raised in Pannonia and died in Italy ..........maybe his mum is iberian



do you get this below from Sochi russia


52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users



R120 has the following positive SNP's....L131, Y6033, FGC23008, Z19913 and 18 others

he sits here
https://www.yfull.com/branch-info/T-Y6033/#t1-tab

torzio
28-12-19, 01:22
What are your OUTLIERS ......and do they have reflection on your migrational path


Your Outlier Samples...(These are the most genetically unique among your broader matching samples) https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Outlier.jpg
137. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 22.07 - MJ34 -
Top 39% match vs all users


162. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix (410 AD) ..... 23.53 - STR_328 -
Top 42% match vs all users

166. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 23.71 - scy010 -
Top 46% match vs all users

169. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 23.96 - SZ42 -
Top 28% match vs all users

torzio
28-12-19, 01:38
My #1 sample, below, slightly increased the Total cM


Protovillanovia Martinsicuro

930 BC

R1

mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
Total cM=88.26
Largest segment=14.43 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 94) - Your raw DNA is 85% closer than other matching users

Chr. 5
11.3 cM

Chr. 6
26.19 cM

Chr. 7
14.07 cM

Chr. 8
10.67 cM

Chr. 11
11.58 cM

Chr. 20
14.43 cM

Yinwang888
28-12-19, 19:09
I don't understand --- if we can only detect family relations out to 4-5th cousins --- how can true-ancestry claim to detect it so far back? Isn't it more just a case of "you have roughly same ethnicity-make-up as this ancient person"

Lukas
28-12-19, 19:31
I don't understand --- if we can only detect family relations out to 4-5th cousins --- how can true-ancestry claim to detect it so far back? Isn't it more just a case of "you have roughly same ethnicity-make-up as this ancient person"

Yes, exactly. I can play in K15 Ancient (http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm) for fun with my results compared to ancients but not to take it seriously that I'm straight descendant of Av2 or Sunghir sample, this is just similarity... The same situation is with MTA results:)

Moreover it was proven many times that especially deep dive is unreliable or at least cM values are few times higher than it should be.

Carlos
31-12-19, 01:22
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-loMYfDNWh38/XgqF56-5hCI/AAAAAAAAB6g/vEDd6yMqIPE8THoNqIf4DjSAmAQ-F4lAACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EtruscanCivitavecchiaR74.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d7MjElHtSXE/XgqF3cBP6tI/AAAAAAAAB6c/sWPzWk-50b8oQoC-ZivwIL3vAlaAkok-wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ETRUSCANcivitavecchiaR473.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xdldwJO7Ta0/XgqFSqdvLCI/AAAAAAAAB6M/V_9gZWzYp_caLdIyxdSj49-C42rlDcjRwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/deepdiveetrusca473.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d3wnDNP4vgA/XgqFXHolLuI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/XiRTnOIvQvUNRYgUZAJEUzwPTehnAYSeACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/mapdeepdiveR474.jpeg

Salento
31-12-19, 04:18
my Roman Era Iberia:
https://i.imgur.com/Axp8SgR.jpg



Deep Dive Map:
https://i.imgur.com/mWJuzG8.jpg

Carlos
31-12-19, 11:26
1. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 3.586 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
Top
100
% match vs all users

2. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 4.463 - R63 -
Top
100
% match vs all users

3. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 5.479 - FN_2
Top
99
% match vs all users

4. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 5.576 - I12034 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

22. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 9.459 - LM_406_T -
Top
99
% match vs all users



The sample R474 is practically me in relation to my own kit.

The Etruscan samples also have stutters in the 200 examples, perhaps there are no segments for the quality of the samples.

81. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 14.6 - I12561 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

103. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.13 - I12171 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

150. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 19.49 - I7162 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

R74

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RBCtazViOPY/XgsSV2LOs_I/AAAAAAAAB6w/_ws0s-dd3HABlkRwFn4dUAwRUW-dpMmLACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/R74etrusco.jpg
Mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RQDjTdWwbyw/XgsTJQyFrDI/AAAAAAAAB7A/Qnt6fzhQbTYnn9MeiLbFIMnaFAytMzDwwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MINEdonutoDNAY.JPEG

R74 mtDNA

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Czgw1vgtxFw/XgsSaGxq-3I/AAAAAAAAB60/t04M2L5hYGII4A8oHhxyJWlxUc1zoESWgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/mtdnaR74.JPEG

Mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z-yfN1CPlvY/XgsT9_ynGsI/AAAAAAAAB7I/33mJIyAqUpAXPmsx3MM-kXFOSvupIKaDwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Minemtdna.JPEG

Sorry romans But nothing is for ever. Maybe you came to believe that it was all over with us but in fact it had just started lol

Duarte
31-12-19, 13:09
3. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 9.714 - R474 - Similar Samples:

https://i.imgur.com/bZ64OG7.png

Some related to R474 with details:

https://i.imgur.com/OjqdegB.png
https://i.imgur.com/xufGUuG.png
https://i.imgur.com/E7wdeWk.png

Angela
31-12-19, 13:24
my Roman Era Iberia:
https://i.imgur.com/Axp8SgR.jpg



Deep Dive Map:
https://i.imgur.com/mWJuzG8.jpg

Yes, I guess they liked the climate. :) The one from the Roman Villa in Tarragona is intriguing. I like Tarragona, nice city, and nice amphitheater, too. I like Catalonia as a whole a lot, feel very "at home" there.

http://www.catalonia-valencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Roman-Amphitheatre-Tarragona.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1ltWlSV.png

Ah, wait, two other villa ones from the south as well. So, settlers probably, not just merchants or whatever.

@Carlos,
Getting a bit rude, aren't we?

Jovialis
31-12-19, 14:52
Sorry romans But nothing is for ever. Maybe you came to believe that it was all over with us but in fact it had just started lol

I'm starting to find that these values are wrong. For example, R1548 is supposed to be my number 1 on MTA, but it is far from it. Currently R973 is my number on the Dodecad K12b version I am compiling on mlukas's site.

Northern Italians are actually closer to most Latins and Etruscans samples, than Spaniards:

Example:



Distance to:
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


2.98306889
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.54009928
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


6.03394564
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


6.29099356
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


8.21318452
North_Italian


8.35141305
Baleares


8.99323635
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.23018573
N_Italian


11.22772016
Galicia


11.69795281
Spaniards


12.46485459
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


12.50926457
Extremadura


12.55556052
Castilla_Y_Leon


12.62493168
Andalucia


12.85807528
Murcia


12.91240102
Cataluna


13.51998891
Cantabria


13.52852172
Valencia


13.65238807
Spanish


13.82596109
Portuguese


14.50117581
Castilla_La_Mancha


14.70424769
Aragon


15.78121351
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


15.92883863
TSI30


16.54642257
Canarias





Distance to:
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


3.27873451
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


5.78160877
North_Italian


5.95183165
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


6.29099356
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


6.78988218
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


8.38279786
N_Italian


8.87318996
Baleares


10.23676218
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.98056465
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


11.14162017
Galicia


12.35530251
Murcia


12.82465984
Extremadura


13.07071153
Spaniards


13.12059831
TSI30


13.36231642
Andalucia


13.40997763
Castilla_Y_Leon


13.81376849
Portuguese


14.28975507
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.40643953
Cataluna


14.67480494
Spanish


15.05738689
Tuscan


15.22069315
Cantabria


15.23212067
Castilla_La_Mancha


15.39107858
Valencia


16.25906824
Aragon





Distance to:
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


2.98306889
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


5.03751923
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


5.14806760
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


6.75586412
North_Italian


6.78988218
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


8.69822970
N_Italian


9.72521465
Baleares


10.82441684
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.71405566
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


12.72055816
Galicia


13.65209874
Spaniards


13.66606015
Andalucia


13.68447295
Extremadura


13.72961762
TSI30


14.12451061
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.14446181
Murcia


14.19710534
Castilla_Y_Leon


14.95184938
Cataluna


14.96557049
Portuguese


15.46727513
Tuscan


15.51092518
Spanish


15.51673290
Valencia


15.71011776
Cantabria


16.39121106
Castilla_La_Mancha


16.74619360
Aragon





Distance to:
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


4.01160816
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


5.03751923
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.15760603
North_Italian


5.95183165
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


6.03394564
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


7.87889586
N_Italian


8.24389471
Baleares


11.06406345
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


11.32371847
Andalucia


11.42493764
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.42629424
Galicia


11.95574339
Murcia


12.07648128
Extremadura


12.25715301
TSI30


12.59229129
Spaniards


12.99406788
Castilla_Y_Leon


13.45805707
Portuguese


14.10107088
Tuscan


14.26729827
Cataluna


14.31892454
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.36500609
Spanish


14.53080865
Valencia


14.78261817
Castilla_La_Mancha


14.93880183
Canarias


14.97183356
Cantabria





Distance to:
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


3.27873451
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


4.01160816
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


5.14806760
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.24512154
North_Italian


5.54009928
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


8.03976368
N_Italian


8.21257572
Baleares


10.85773457
Galicia


10.87764221
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


10.98685578
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.64063572
Murcia


12.06155048
Extremadura


12.15138675
Andalucia


12.49035628
TSI30


12.74874111
Castilla_Y_Leon


12.84337962
Spaniards


13.02558636
Portuguese


14.10738814
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.29485922
Spanish


14.48704249
Cataluna


14.48716673
Tuscan


14.59809577
Canarias


15.02812031
Castilla_La_Mancha


15.03589040
Valencia


15.10769340
Cantabria





Distance to:
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


5.40006481
N_Italian


7.56863924
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


8.09843195
North_Italian


10.68767982
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.87764221
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


10.98056465
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


11.06406345
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


11.71405566
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


12.03535625
LA_Celio_R36


12.08194107
Baleares


12.08642627
O_Italian


12.12151393
TSI30


12.46485459
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


12.76096000
Galicia


13.43684859
Extremadura


14.08415422
Portuguese


14.15437388
Tuscan


14.17464638
Albanian_North


14.26640459
Albanian_Kosovo


15.65916026
Murcia


15.83631902
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549


16.08680515
Castilla_Y_Leon


16.25876994
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


16.41527642
Cataluna


16.49286816
French





Distance to:
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


7.11862346
O_Italian


7.18894985
N_Italian


7.51609606
Albanian_North


7.56863924
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


7.76251248
Albanian_Kosovo


8.94220890
LA_Celio_R36


9.42569891
TSI30


10.32626263
North_Italian


10.61324644
Tuscan


12.67284893
C_Italian


12.72463359
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549


13.02779337
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970


13.46066492
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121


13.87592880
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


14.10656230
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


14.10738814
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


14.12451061
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


14.28975507
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


14.31892454
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


15.04893352
Bulgarians


15.06029880
Romanians


15.41974708
Bulgarian


15.78121351
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


15.89171168
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


16.03948877
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836





Distance to:
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437


4.59913035
S_Italian_Sicilian


4.83577295
Sicilian


5.37071690
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836


5.58436209
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


5.75484144
MA_Villa_Magna_R65


5.92564764
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973


6.53716299
MA_Villa_Magna_R59


6.57532509
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


6.62618291
C_Italian


8.68328855
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121


9.89564551
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


10.09640530
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970


10.16248001
Ashkenazi


10.49031935
Tuscan


10.64005169
Ashkenazy_Jews


11.10535456
LA_Celio_R36


11.26179382
Greek


11.34612709
Greek_Crete


11.40172794
Sephardic_Jews


11.72748055
TSI30


11.99572424
O_Italian


12.17614060
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548


12.92229856
Morocco_Jews


13.00421086
MA_Villa_Magna_R57


13.37198938
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549





Distance to:
IA_Latin_Ardea_R850


3.90799181
Greek_Crete


4.90446735
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548


7.13377179
Ashkenazy_Jews


7.74058137
Sephardic_Jews


7.82175172
Ashkenazi


9.49243910
MA_Villa_Magna_R65


10.15725357
S_Italian_Sicilian


10.43784940
Sicilian


10.88449356
Greek_Cappadocia


11.74901272
MA_Villa_Magna_R59


11.86263040
Cypriots


11.99563671
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973


12.08694751
Nusayri_Turkey


12.19292418
Morocco_Jews


13.12759689
Crimean_Tatar_Coast


13.17106678
Turk_West_BlackSea


13.49063008
Turk_Central_West


13.55089296
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


14.08757609
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836


14.10277987
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437


14.16544387
Greek


14.43175665
Turk_Central_East


14.45064012
Turk_Anatolia


14.88196224
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


15.19421600
Turk_Southwest




The only one that I see is closest to Iberians is R435:



Distance to:
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


7.26140482
Baleares


7.44595192
Galicia


7.98874208
Cataluna


8.99323635
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


9.01121523
Spaniards


9.17724359
Extremadura


9.91413133
Castilla_Y_Leon


10.23676218
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


10.27070105
Portuguese


10.32665483
Spanish


10.44412754
French


10.63531852
Cantabria


10.68767982
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


10.82441684
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


10.98685578
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


11.10933391
French


11.39798228
Murcia


11.42493764
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


11.60238769
Valencia


11.86962510
Castilla_La_Mancha


12.09465584
North_Italian


12.27742644
N_Italian


12.63263235
Aragon


12.88846771
Andalucia


16.05179118
Canarias

Carlos
31-12-19, 17:38
^^
I don't know, every calculator is one is a surprise. They probably all have some truth and everything is not quite right. Next year they will probably have changed again. It would be wonderful if they made each one a custom calculator with our tastes, desires and desires. Look, some have been lucky and have done it.

Salento
31-12-19, 18:38
R1548 rank #1 on MTA, #4 on the most recent Rs (only) on Dod. K12b

(... data limitations - but a small comparison between the two):

https://i.imgur.com/t8jlMsB.jpg


18. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.87 - R65

(R836 N/A)

62. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 16.85 - R437

1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.39 - R1548

22. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 13.51 - R850

(R1549 N/A)

85. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 18.95 - R1
............

Salento
31-12-19, 19:06
Yes, I guess they liked the climate. :) The one from the Roman Villa in Tarragona is intriguing. I like Tarragona, nice city, and nice amphitheater, too. I like Catalonia as a whole a lot, feel very "at home" there.

http://www.catalonia-valencia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Roman-Amphitheatre-Tarragona.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1ltWlSV.png

Ah, wait, two other villa ones from the south as well. So, settlers probably, not just merchants or whatever.


... we should all get our own “Villa” / “Domus Aurea” :grin:

some of these ancient samples had more $$$ and a quasi better standard of living than we do :)

Angela
31-12-19, 19:31
... we should all get our own “Villa” / “Domus Aurea” :grin:

some of these ancient samples had more $$$ and a quasi better standard of living than we do :)

I think Nero's "Golden House" was probably beyond the means of our distant relatives. :)

However, going by the virtual reconstruction of this Roman villa in Spain, I'd be happy to live there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MjoaTsI-9c

Angela
31-12-19, 19:40
I'm starting to find that these values are wrong. For example, R1548 is supposed to be my number 1 on MTA, but it is far from it. Currently R973 is my number on the Dodecad K12b version I am compiling on mlukas's site.

Northern Italians are actually closer to most Latins and Etruscans samples, than Spaniards:

Example:



Distance to:
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


2.98306889
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.54009928
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


6.03394564
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


6.29099356
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


8.21318452
North_Italian


8.35141305
Baleares


8.99323635
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.23018573
N_Italian


11.22772016
Galicia


11.69795281
Spaniards


12.46485459
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


12.50926457
Extremadura


12.55556052
Castilla_Y_Leon


12.62493168
Andalucia


12.85807528
Murcia


12.91240102
Cataluna


13.51998891
Cantabria


13.52852172
Valencia


13.65238807
Spanish


13.82596109
Portuguese


14.50117581
Castilla_La_Mancha


14.70424769
Aragon


15.78121351
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


15.92883863
TSI30


16.54642257
Canarias





Distance to:
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


3.27873451
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


5.78160877
North_Italian


5.95183165
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


6.29099356
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


6.78988218
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


8.38279786
N_Italian


8.87318996
Baleares


10.23676218
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.98056465
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


11.14162017
Galicia


12.35530251
Murcia


12.82465984
Extremadura


13.07071153
Spaniards


13.12059831
TSI30


13.36231642
Andalucia


13.40997763
Castilla_Y_Leon


13.81376849
Portuguese


14.28975507
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.40643953
Cataluna


14.67480494
Spanish


15.05738689
Tuscan


15.22069315
Cantabria


15.23212067
Castilla_La_Mancha


15.39107858
Valencia


16.25906824
Aragon





Distance to:
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


2.98306889
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


5.03751923
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


5.14806760
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


6.75586412
North_Italian


6.78988218
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


8.69822970
N_Italian


9.72521465
Baleares


10.82441684
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.71405566
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


12.72055816
Galicia


13.65209874
Spaniards


13.66606015
Andalucia


13.68447295
Extremadura


13.72961762
TSI30


14.12451061
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.14446181
Murcia


14.19710534
Castilla_Y_Leon


14.95184938
Cataluna


14.96557049
Portuguese


15.46727513
Tuscan


15.51092518
Spanish


15.51673290
Valencia


15.71011776
Cantabria


16.39121106
Castilla_La_Mancha


16.74619360
Aragon





Distance to:
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


4.01160816
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


5.03751923
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.15760603
North_Italian


5.95183165
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


6.03394564
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


7.87889586
N_Italian


8.24389471
Baleares


11.06406345
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


11.32371847
Andalucia


11.42493764
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.42629424
Galicia


11.95574339
Murcia


12.07648128
Extremadura


12.25715301
TSI30


12.59229129
Spaniards


12.99406788
Castilla_Y_Leon


13.45805707
Portuguese


14.10107088
Tuscan


14.26729827
Cataluna


14.31892454
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.36500609
Spanish


14.53080865
Valencia


14.78261817
Castilla_La_Mancha


14.93880183
Canarias


14.97183356
Cantabria





Distance to:
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


3.27873451
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


4.01160816
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


5.14806760
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


5.24512154
North_Italian


5.54009928
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


8.03976368
N_Italian


8.21257572
Baleares


10.85773457
Galicia


10.87764221
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


10.98685578
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


11.64063572
Murcia


12.06155048
Extremadura


12.15138675
Andalucia


12.49035628
TSI30


12.74874111
Castilla_Y_Leon


12.84337962
Spaniards


13.02558636
Portuguese


14.10738814
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


14.29485922
Spanish


14.48704249
Cataluna


14.48716673
Tuscan


14.59809577
Canarias


15.02812031
Castilla_La_Mancha


15.03589040
Valencia


15.10769340
Cantabria





Distance to:
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


5.40006481
N_Italian


7.56863924
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


8.09843195
North_Italian


10.68767982
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


10.87764221
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


10.98056465
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


11.06406345
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


11.71405566
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


12.03535625
LA_Celio_R36


12.08194107
Baleares


12.08642627
O_Italian


12.12151393
TSI30


12.46485459
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


12.76096000
Galicia


13.43684859
Extremadura


14.08415422
Portuguese


14.15437388
Tuscan


14.17464638
Albanian_North


14.26640459
Albanian_Kosovo


15.65916026
Murcia


15.83631902
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549


16.08680515
Castilla_Y_Leon


16.25876994
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


16.41527642
Cataluna


16.49286816
French





Distance to:
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1


7.11862346
O_Italian


7.18894985
N_Italian


7.51609606
Albanian_North


7.56863924
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


7.76251248
Albanian_Kosovo


8.94220890
LA_Celio_R36


9.42569891
TSI30


10.32626263
North_Italian


10.61324644
Tuscan


12.67284893
C_Italian


12.72463359
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549


13.02779337
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970


13.46066492
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121


13.87592880
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


14.10656230
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


14.10738814
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


14.12451061
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


14.28975507
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


14.31892454
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


15.04893352
Bulgarians


15.06029880
Romanians


15.41974708
Bulgarian


15.78121351
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


15.89171168
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


16.03948877
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836





Distance to:
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437


4.59913035
S_Italian_Sicilian


4.83577295
Sicilian


5.37071690
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836


5.58436209
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


5.75484144
MA_Villa_Magna_R65


5.92564764
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973


6.53716299
MA_Villa_Magna_R59


6.57532509
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R118


6.62618291
C_Italian


8.68328855
LA_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia_R121


9.89564551
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


10.09640530
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R970


10.16248001
Ashkenazi


10.49031935
Tuscan


10.64005169
Ashkenazy_Jews


11.10535456
LA_Celio_R36


11.26179382
Greek


11.34612709
Greek_Crete


11.40172794
Sephardic_Jews


11.72748055
TSI30


11.99572424
O_Italian


12.17614060
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548


12.92229856
Morocco_Jews


13.00421086
MA_Villa_Magna_R57


13.37198938
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1549





Distance to:
IA_Latin_Ardea_R850


3.90799181
Greek_Crete


4.90446735
Imperial_Monterotondo_R1548


7.13377179
Ashkenazy_Jews


7.74058137
Sephardic_Jews


7.82175172
Ashkenazi


9.49243910
MA_Villa_Magna_R65


10.15725357
S_Italian_Sicilian


10.43784940
Sicilian


10.88449356
Greek_Cappadocia


11.74901272
MA_Villa_Magna_R59


11.86263040
Cypriots


11.99563671
MA_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti_R973


12.08694751
Nusayri_Turkey


12.19292418
Morocco_Jews


13.12759689
Crimean_Tatar_Coast


13.17106678
Turk_West_BlackSea


13.49063008
Turk_Central_West


13.55089296
MA_Villa_Magna_R1290


14.08757609
Imperial_Civitanova_Marche_R836


14.10277987
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Selicata_R437


14.16544387
Greek


14.43175665
Turk_Central_East


14.45064012
Turk_Anatolia


14.88196224
MA_Villa_Magna_R60


15.19421600
Turk_Southwest




The only one that I see is closest to Iberians is R435:



Distance to:
IA_Latin_Prenestina_Colombella_R435


7.26140482
Baleares


7.44595192
Galicia


7.98874208
Cataluna


8.99323635
IA_Latin_Ardea_R851


9.01121523
Spaniards


9.17724359
Extremadura


9.91413133
Castilla_Y_Leon


10.23676218
IA_Civitavecchia_R473


10.27070105
Portuguese


10.32665483
Spanish


10.44412754
French


10.63531852
Cantabria


10.68767982
IA_Civitavecchia_R474


10.82441684
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021


10.98685578
IA_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015


11.10933391
French


11.39798228
Murcia


11.42493764
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016


11.60238769
Valencia


11.86962510
Castilla_La_Mancha


12.09465584
North_Italian


12.27742644
N_Italian


12.63263235
Aragon


12.88846771
Andalucia


16.05179118
Canarias




Very interesting.

The Dodecad calculators usually gave better fits for Italians than Eurogenes did.

I get why my husband gets Ashkenazim in Dodecad as third best fit sometimes: he's close to 850, which is close to Crete, and the Ashkenazi Jews are also close to Crete.

torzio
31-12-19, 20:43
my trentino cousin has had her #1 points lowered and number 10 added

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 -
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

6. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.27 - R970 -
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.056 - R36 -
Top 99% match vs all users

11. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 -
Top 99% match vs all users



.................................................. ............

R36
mtDNA: T1a1
Y-DNA: R-Z145


my cousin is mtdna T1a1e

Carlos
31-12-19, 21:09
Something more about R474

24. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 10.19 - I3238 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

49. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 12.36 - R116 -
Top
99
% match vs all users
The 200 samples of R74 are the ones I have, except this one that I had never seen before.

166. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (1100 AD) ..... 20.72 - PCA157_Mar6 - ?
Top
89
% match vs all users

Some features of R74

SNP: rs9939609 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9939609) (TT) - Relevance:7.2
Lower risk of obesity and type-2 diabetes

SNP: gs156a (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/gs156a) (Positive) - Relevance:5.0
Fast metabolism

SNP: rs2032582 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2032582) (AA) - Relevance:1.7
Rare genotype, on a triallelic snp

SNP: rs17070145 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17070145) (CC) - Relevance:0.8
Reduced memory abilities

SNP: rs4570625 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4570625) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
Maybe: higher scores on anxiety-related personality traits; greater placebo response}}one study of (only) 25 people {{pmid|19052197

SNP: rs1426654 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1426654) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
Probably light-skinned, european ancestry

SNP: rs1815739 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1815739) (CC) - Relevance:0.6
Better performing muscles. likely sprinter.

SNP: rs334558 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs334558) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
Later onset of bipolar disorder

SNP: rs821616 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs821616) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Cognitive decline in older women

SNP: rs12807809 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12807809) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Schizophrenia

SNP: rs1800860 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800860) (AG) - Relevance:0.3
10% smaller kidneys as newborns

SNP: rs182549 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs182549) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Possibly lactose intolerant

SNP: rs10784502 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10784502) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Less intracranial volume?

SNP: rs1569723 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1569723) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Kawasaki disease

SNP: rs2802292 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2802292) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
1.5x~2.7x more likely to live to 100.

SNP: rs4870044 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4870044) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Bone mineral density (spine)

SNP: rs7776725 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7776725) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Stronger bones

SNP: rs7183877 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7183877) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

SNP: rs8028689 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8028689) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

SNP: rs7816345 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7816345) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
bigger breast size (normal in european)

SNP: rs13208776 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13208776) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Higher risk for generalized vitiligo

SNP: rs3923890 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3923890) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lower social interaction

SNP: rs4778241 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4778241) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Usually brown eye color

SNP: rs35264875 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs35264875) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Blonde hair color

SNP: rs885479 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs885479) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Darker skin color

SNP: rs17001266 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17001266) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.58x increased risk for schizophrenia in males

SNP: rs12416000 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12416000) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Homo sapiens gene (not neanderthal)

SNP: rs4085613 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4085613) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Psoriasis

SNP: rs6060373 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6060373) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs6088813 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6088813) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs572169 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs572169) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs1007371 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1007371) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Rare genotype.

SNP: rs4552569 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4552569) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Ankylosing spondylitis


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Something more about R473

R473

1. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 7.925 - I10853 -
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99
% match vs all users

5. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 9.525 - I7457 -
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99
% match vs all users

6. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 10.11 - I12208 -
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99
% match vs all users
15. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 10.98 - I12209 -
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99
% match vs all users
17. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 11.16 - I3585 -
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97
% match vs all users
23. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.77 - I12034 -
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98
% match vs all users
52. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 14.1 - MS10614 - ?
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99
% match vs all users
88. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 16.08 - I1388 -
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99
% match vs all users
109. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 17.41 - I12171 -
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99
% match vs all users
200. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 24.21 - AITI_78 -
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33
% match vs all users

SNP: rs182549 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs182549) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Possibly lactose intolerant

SNP: rs900400 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs900400) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
Birth weight

SNP: rs12913832 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12913832) (AG) - Relevance:1.0
Brown eye color

SNP: rs16891982 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16891982) (GG) - Relevance:0.8
Generally european; light skin; possibly an increased risk of melanoma}}this snp is associated with skin, hair, and eye colour, and risk of melanoma. individuals with the g;g genotype are generally of european descent and have fair skin.{{pmid auto|pmid=19710684|oa=1

SNP: rs4570625 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4570625) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
Maybe: higher scores on anxiety-related personality traits; greater placebo response}}one study of (only) 25 people {{pmid|19052197

SNP: rs12970134 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12970134) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
Adult waist 1.8cm larger on average

SNP: rs9652490 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9652490) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
~2x increased risk for parkinson's disease, and, essential tremor

SNP: rs1426654 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1426654) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
Probably light-skinned, european ancestry

SNP: rs7216389 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7216389) (TT) - Relevance:0.6
1.5x increased risk for childhood asthma.

SNP: rs334558 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs334558) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
Later onset of bipolar disorder

SNP: rs4307059 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4307059) (CC) - Relevance:0.5
Reduced autism risk

SNP: rs7647305 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7647305) (TC) - Relevance:0.5
Obesity risk

SNP: rs10246939 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10246939) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Can taste bitter

SNP: rs2494732 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2494732) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Lower odds of psychosis

SNP: rs7495174 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7495174) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Blue/gray eyes more likely

SNP: rs610604 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs610604) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Psoriasis

SNP: rs6932590 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6932590) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
1.1x increased risk for schizophrenia

SNP: rs6435862 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6435862) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
2.8x higher risk of aggressive neuroblastoma

SNP: rs12896399 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12896399) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Light hair color

SNP: rs13316193 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13316193) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Slight evidence indicating decreased oxtr expression, higher risk of depression, higher risk of autism spectrum disorder.}}{{pmid|22357335}} the association between oxytocin receptor gene polymorphism (oxtr) and trait empathy.{{pmid|17893705}} association between the oxytocin receptor (oxtr) gene and autism: relationship to vineland adaptive behavior scales and cognition.{{pmid|20346758}} genetics of human social behavior.{{pmid|22285934}} oxytocin and social affiliation in humans.{{pmid|23325323

SNP: rs6812193 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6812193) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly higher risk of developing parkinson's disease for caucasians

SNP: rs2069442 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2069442) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
1.9x increased risk of alzheimer's

SNP: rs900400 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs900400) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
Birth weight

SNP: rs182549 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs182549) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Possibly lactose intolerant

SNP: rs10050860 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10050860) (CT) - Relevance:0.2
0.71x lower risk for ankylosing spondylitis.

SNP: rs1569723 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1569723) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Kawasaki disease

SNP: rs6604026 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6604026) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
1.15x risk of multiple sclerosis

SNP: rs3743930 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3743930) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Some reports of familial mediterranean fever

SNP: rs7776725 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7776725) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Stronger bones

SNP: rs2327832 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2327832) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Celiac disease

SNP: rs326 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs326) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lower hdl cholesterol

SNP: rs17482753 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17482753) (GT) - Relevance:0.1
Elevated triglycerides

SNP: rs10958409 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10958409) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
1.79x increased aneurysm risk

SNP: rs7183877 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7183877) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

SNP: rs8028689 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8028689) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotype

SNP: rs3745516 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3745516) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly increased risk of developing primary biliary cirrhosis

SNP: rs394581 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs394581) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Higher risk of ra in african and hispanic populations

SNP: rs7816345 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7816345) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
bigger breast size (normal in european)

SNP: rs3753841 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3753841) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Glaucoma (primary open-angle)

SNP: rs4236601 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4236601) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Glaucoma (primary open-angle)

SNP: rs3923890 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3923890) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lower social interaction

SNP: rs2839471 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2839471) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.6x increased risk for high myopia in japanese (but not chinese)

SNP: rs2024513 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2024513) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
1.7x higher risk for schizophrenia (among han chinese)

SNP: rs1635852 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1635852) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs6700998 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6700998) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
0.83x reduced risk of atopic dermatitis.

SNP: rs1143674 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1143674) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
1.3x increased autism riskSNP: rs9883204 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9883204) (CC) - Relevance:0.1

SNP: rs12416000 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12416000) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Homo sapiens gene (not neanderthal)

SNP: rs7078160 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7078160) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Orofacial clefts

SNP: rs7107418 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7107418) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
Less likely to think cilantro tastes like soap

SNP: rs6591536 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6591536) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
More able to detect -ionone (floral) fragrance

SNP: rs34516635 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs34516635) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Less longevity for ashkenazi jewish women.

SNP: rs17646946 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17646946) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Straighter curl

SNP: rs11803731 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11803731) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Curlier hair

SNP: rs6570507 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6570507) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs3748816 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3748816) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Celiac diseaseSNP: rs7561317 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7561317) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
WeightSNP: rs572169 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs572169) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Height

SNP: rs6859 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6859) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
Alzheimer's diseaseSNP: rs3126085 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3126085) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Atopic dermatitisSNP: rs4085613 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4085613) (TG) - Relevance:0.1
PsoriasisSNP: rs7522462 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7522462) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs11584383 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11584383) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs1518111 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1518111) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Behcet's disease

SNP: rs229527 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs229527) (AA) - Relevance:0.0
Vitiligo

Carlos
01-01-20, 16:37
My new results:

5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) ..... 9.193 - I10895 -
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% match vs all users
10. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 10.71 - I10852
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% match vs all users
18. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 11.65 - I10851
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38. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 13.64 - I10853
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97
% match vs all users
70. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (990 AD) ..... 15.05 - I10892 -
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98
% match vs all users
91. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.35 - I12171 -
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% match vs all users
107. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 17.04 - I6490
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% match vs all users
118. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.58 - I3981 -
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% match vs all users
128. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 18.28 - I12561 -
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153. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1115 AD) ..... 19.49 - I10897
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92. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 16.45 - I3982 -
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95% match vs all users

Carlos
05-01-20, 21:15
Me
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dvzkCW9zscg/XhIxTbnmBII/AAAAAAAAB_g/LWXwBKS7rccbqOSCXZcw8lLx0EMnqPtAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MineWheel.JPEG

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Duarte
05-01-20, 21:42
Me
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dvzkCW9zscg/XhIxTbnmBII/AAAAAAAAB_g/LWXwBKS7rccbqOSCXZcw8lLx0EMnqPtAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MineWheel.JPEG

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You know who it is.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nzBnxgS625c/XhIw3n2rJZI/AAAAAAAAB-k/xovJ0mFKZ9Idvt7IfnJN9OJA_WKdRcUlACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/DNAlandMINE.JPEG

These are the ancestral populations that make up your ethnicity, all of them grouped on a pie chart. See my resumed most recent MTA results:


Your closest Ancient populations...
https://i.imgur.com/aFhuKll.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/E8FlDDr.jpg

Cheers:)

matty74
05-01-20, 21:50
Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)


https://i.imgur.com/Es28KKx.png

blevins13
05-01-20, 22:19
1170711708

I get so much Roman mostly for the samples from Hungary.....how we know they are Roman? At that time borders were protected by soldiers from Illyricani.


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Stuvanè
05-01-20, 22:57
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Angela
05-01-20, 23:14
1170711708

I get so much Roman mostly for the samples from Hungary.....how we know they are Roman? At that time borders were protected by soldiers from Illyricani.


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I'm not sure who they were. All we know is that Szolad was part of an area in Pannonia which remained "Romanized" for a long time, and then was also under Byzantine rule for a time.

"Pannonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia), a province of the Western Roman empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_empire), was devastated by the barbarian invasions (Huns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns), Gepids (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids), Avars, etc.). Only a few thousand Romanized Pannonians survived the onslaughts,[dubious (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Accuracy_dispute#Disputed_statement) – discuss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keszthely_culture)] mainly around Lake Pelso (now lake Balaton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Balaton)) in small fortified villages such as Keszthely.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia %2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg/300px-Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia %2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum,_Macedonia,_Daci a,_Moesia,_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg)

Roman Pannonia and surrounding areas


The Romanic population from Pannonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia) created the Keszthely culture that evolved mainly during the 6th-7th centuries. Its artifacts were made in the workshops of Roman origin located mainly in the fortified settlements of Keszthely-Fenékpuszta and Sopianae (modern Pécs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9cs)). "
"Under the Avars, the Roman castle of Fenékpuszta near Keszthely and the surroundings were not occupied, so the original Romanized inhabitants lived on undisturbed. They paid food and artisan goods for peace from the Avars. After 568 new Christian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christians) Romanized Pannonians arrived here, probably from the destroyed Aquincum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquincum) (modern Budapest). The Keszthely-Fenékpuszta fortress became the centre of a 30 km diameter area, where the people buried their dead adorned with jewellery and clothing of Byzantine origin. They rebuilt the fortress basilica, where the principals of the community were buried, while their relatives found their final resting places next to the nearby horreum (granary). In 626, the Avars were seriously defeated under Constantinople (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), which was followed by a civil war. The leaders of the Keszthely-Fenékpuszta community had supported those who were later defeated. That was why the Avars besieged and then destroyed the fortress of Fenékpuszta. They made the rest of the Romanized population move into the territory of the town centre. The Christian Romanized population was subjected to military suppression. The cemeteries of the 7th and 8th centuries entombed both Avars and Christians, but they were buried separately. The different religions did not allow them to mix even after death. The Christian Romanized populace, which spoke its own Romance Pannonian language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Romance), was cut from the outer world and created a unique, characteristic material culture, which we know from the artifacts of the cemeteries near Keszthely. These finds have been termed Keszthely culture. At that time, Keszthely was the center of the Pannonian region, because the area of Lake Balaton was crossed by roads connecting the Danube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube) and the Mediterranean (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keszthely_culture

The Langobards were late arrivals and stayed for only one generation.

The Byzantines didn't arrive until after the date of these burials, but perhaps the arrivals after 568 were from further south rather than Budapest?

It's undeniable that some of the samples are Greek like, and even island Greek like, while others are Tuscan like.


I'm very close to SZ36 and I'm part Tuscan. Stuvane is also very close to him and he's from the Romagna. I'm not surprised that Albanians are getting hits with them. They're coming up on my calculator results quite often.

My results:

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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99% match vs all users

2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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99% match vs all users

3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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99% match vs all users

4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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99% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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The two Szolad samples to which I'm closest are a mixture of TSI Tuscan, IBS Spanish, and a minority British component. I wish they'd used something other than 1000 Genomes, but it's undeniable some of them are extremely close to modern Italians.

Pretty close to Albanians, as well it appears.

matty74
06-01-20, 06:44
Were the Avars Slavs? Or a Slavicized group? From what I've read, the Longobards didn't stay in Pannonia very long but given its location, it's not surprising that different groups passed through the area.

Carlos
06-01-20, 12:17
These are the ancestral populations that make up your ethnicity, all of them grouped on a pie chart. See my resumed most recent MTA results:


Your closest Ancient populations...
https://i.imgur.com/aFhuKll.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/E8FlDDr.jpg

Cheers:)

It is not possible to get rid of this fresh

mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wumi1O8NdFM/XhIyRl_p5zI/AAAAAAAACAE/X3xAaKFqGOcyfwu257bn__65qQTbfNShQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/meCOMPOSICION.JPEG
Mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dvzkCW9zscg/XhIxTbnmBII/AAAAAAAAB_g/LWXwBKS7rccbqOSCXZcw8lLx0EMnqPtAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MineWheel.JPEG
I have reloaded and I get this
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zwx95svoABM/XhM4r0VRSPI/AAAAAAAACAQ/uHHJSKw2QBo-urUWLscZ4mpl3ygZtmDJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/minewheel2020.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NASefykuY1Y/XhIxGQ_8KPI/AAAAAAAAB-8/Ypz9m5OKLQMPf3Ci6hwSo_9-_b5iItjqwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/IBERIANelArgarBronzeAGEI8136.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4lc07xABwhk/XhIwwj1XbcI/AAAAAAAAB-c/_-w0eld2bCQGOC6M0weISZ_KyeqBfT6zwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BronzeAgeLomadelPuercoI7162.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dTO1jQaOok4/XhIwzST9imI/AAAAAAAAB-g/va31EYqlF-IxFaVCcXI_j_4m_vnbAgBUwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BronzeAgeSpainCogotasI12208.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X7CK0IFHfy0/XhIxVraRGKI/AAAAAAAAB_k/lC3dzyoHqg0SEsSStJUSZ11zORF3B315gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VasconesTribeI12879.JPEG

It would be necessary to see the wheel of a modern Basque.

Compressed values in older Iberians gain more ground to the Iberian until they reach the current era, some new contributions, others that disappear, many nomenclatures for basically the same, I don't know very well how to interpret it.

blevins13
06-01-20, 15:56
I'm not sure who they were. All we know is that Szolad was part of an area in Pannonia which remained "Romanized" for a long time, and then was also under Byzantine rule for a time.

"Pannonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia), a province of the Western Roman empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Roman_empire), was devastated by the barbarian invasions (Huns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns), Gepids (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids), Avars, etc.). Only a few thousand Romanized Pannonians survived the onslaughts,[dubious (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Accuracy_dispute#Disputed_statement) – discuss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keszthely_culture)] mainly around Lake Pelso (now lake Balaton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Balaton)) in small fortified villages such as Keszthely.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia %2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg/300px-Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia %2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum,_Macedonia,_Daci a,_Moesia,_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpg)

Roman Pannonia and surrounding areas


The Romanic population from Pannonia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonia) created the Keszthely culture that evolved mainly during the 6th-7th centuries. Its artifacts were made in the workshops of Roman origin located mainly in the fortified settlements of Keszthely-Fenékpuszta and Sopianae (modern Pécs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9cs)). "
"Under the Avars, the Roman castle of Fenékpuszta near Keszthely and the surroundings were not occupied, so the original Romanized inhabitants lived on undisturbed. They paid food and artisan goods for peace from the Avars. After 568 new Christian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christians) Romanized Pannonians arrived here, probably from the destroyed Aquincum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquincum) (modern Budapest). The Keszthely-Fenékpuszta fortress became the centre of a 30 km diameter area, where the people buried their dead adorned with jewellery and clothing of Byzantine origin. They rebuilt the fortress basilica, where the principals of the community were buried, while their relatives found their final resting places next to the nearby horreum (granary). In 626, the Avars were seriously defeated under Constantinople (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), which was followed by a civil war. The leaders of the Keszthely-Fenékpuszta community had supported those who were later defeated. That was why the Avars besieged and then destroyed the fortress of Fenékpuszta. They made the rest of the Romanized population move into the territory of the town centre. The Christian Romanized population was subjected to military suppression. The cemeteries of the 7th and 8th centuries entombed both Avars and Christians, but they were buried separately. The different religions did not allow them to mix even after death. The Christian Romanized populace, which spoke its own Romance Pannonian language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Romance), was cut from the outer world and created a unique, characteristic material culture, which we know from the artifacts of the cemeteries near Keszthely. These finds have been termed Keszthely culture. At that time, Keszthely was the center of the Pannonian region, because the area of Lake Balaton was crossed by roads connecting the Danube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danube) and the Mediterranean (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keszthely_culture

The Langobards were late arrivals and stayed for only one generation.

The Byzantines didn't arrive until after the date of these burials, but perhaps the arrivals after 568 were from further south rather than Budapest?

It's undeniable that some of the samples are Greek like, and even island Greek like, while others are Tuscan like.


I'm very close to SZ36 and I'm part Tuscan. Stuvane is also very close to him and he's from the Romagna. I'm not surprised that Albanians are getting hits with them. They're coming up on my calculator results quite often.

My results:

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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The two Szolad samples to which I'm closest are a mixture of TSI Tuscan, IBS Spanish, and a minority British component. I wish they'd used something other than 1000 Genomes, but it's undeniable some of them are extremely close to modern Italians.

Pretty close to Albanians, as well it appears.




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The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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Stuvanè
06-01-20, 17:11
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The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.

Carlos
06-01-20, 18:57
It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.



I bet on your hypothesis

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a0IC76KhBFw/XhNcy7A1H8I/AAAAAAAACAc/LFX_Nk-gqb8EWJRvnEPxP4p-76wndTeSwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/lliryandamlamtianname.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ss19xBBtzl8/XhNkRUkKbXI/AAAAAAAACCY/uE3bIadwQeM-siITKsvffYaOtvFECWdbwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIA1.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lgEQEuW10CI/XhNkAUo1-hI/AAAAAAAACB8/UabG_d1Ki6QbzoPmteKlBcEMdRt15USBwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ironage.jpeg

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ttqTiiJit3c/XhNkadq0_8I/AAAAAAAACCo/kY12N1tUsA0jUfGQ0TG0GwnmWS27wBMggCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIA4.JPEG


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TLa-RY-a0es/XhNjJxnxsaI/AAAAAAAACBA/w_g9lcWllTIQoY88_xANcf2KIsUVCHFKACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/illyrio75.jpeg

Stuvanè
06-01-20, 19:45
I bet on your hypothesis

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a0IC76KhBFw/XhNcy7A1H8I/AAAAAAAACAc/LFX_Nk-gqb8EWJRvnEPxP4p-76wndTeSwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/lliryandamlamtianname.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ss19xBBtzl8/XhNkRUkKbXI/AAAAAAAACCY/uE3bIadwQeM-siITKsvffYaOtvFECWdbwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIA1.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lgEQEuW10CI/XhNkAUo1-hI/AAAAAAAACB8/UabG_d1Ki6QbzoPmteKlBcEMdRt15USBwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ironage.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aRvVZRyjFXw/XhNkUAMo1mI/AAAAAAAACCg/c9dJibZGUMISNCg0ARWZZJAWuHqYNUdUACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIA2.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ttqTiiJit3c/XhNkadq0_8I/AAAAAAAACCo/kY12N1tUsA0jUfGQ0TG0GwnmWS27wBMggCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIA4.JPEG


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TLa-RY-a0es/XhNjJxnxsaI/AAAAAAAACBA/w_g9lcWllTIQoY88_xANcf2KIsUVCHFKACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/[email protected],

I still can't put my hand on the fire, but this persistent and common occurrence in our timelines of Iberian, Italic / Etruscan and Illyrian individuals make me suspect that in protohistoric Europe - at least in the middle continental area - fairly homogeneous populations had originated

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Angela
07-01-20, 01:55
It isn't at all easy to answer, Blevins.


Two hypotheses turn around my head or they have been proposed to me: we are talking about groups of individuals of mixed origin more or less recent in historical age (mediterranean + continental = i.e. Romans assimilated to the local Pannonian and / or Lombard populations merged with Romans / provincials ), or it must be assumed that in some areas of continental Europe inhabited local populations whose ancestral quotas previously inherited - and before mixing completely with Germanic or Slavic populations - were completely similar to those of the autosomal of a current northern/central Italian.


Needless to deny that this second hypothesis would be extremely interesting to investigate.

That's it in a nutshell. :)

I don't know if even more samples will clear it up.

Angela
07-01-20, 02:22
11713

The Vlachs (Aromanian) large presence in South Albanian probably explain my strong connection to these samples, but I am not sure how to explain yours.? Can you shed some light on that? I think is very interesting?


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I agree with Stuvane as to the options.

I also agree that it may be that the steppe admixed populations which were in central Europe, the northern Balkans, and also went into Italy and Iberia were pretty similar. However, we have in Szolad some definitely "Greek like" even Island Greek like samples, so these were, it would seem to me, from the "colonization" period, or they arrived afterwards, but still before the conquest by the Byzantines going by the dates. Whether there were also arrivals from parts of the Italian peninsula I have no idea.

I can also tell you that based on not just mytrueancestry but the gedmatch calculators, I'm closer to the Illyrian/Dalmatian samples and Scythian Moldova samples than I am to the vast majority of Imperial samples. That's been a big surprise.

As for the Vlachs, you would know much more about that than I do. I can tell you, though, that the Albanians who show up on my lists at the gedmatch thread are, first, Kosovans, and second, Albania north.

Other northern and central Italians may get different results.

Dibran
07-01-20, 18:40
I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. Here are my updated results:

https://i.postimg.cc/zv7BXYtx/mag1.png


https://i.postimg.cc/nrk21Mrp/time.png


https://i.postimg.cc/y6pCBNnw/mag2.png


Romans- 43.6%
Hellenic Romans- 12.1%
Roman Hispania- 10.2%
Ancient Greek- 7.98%
Illyrian- 5.64%
Minoan- 4.85%
Thracian- 4.46%
Gallo-Roman- 3.59%
Phillistine- 2.84%
Hittite- 2.72%
Gaul- 1.9%


1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.129 - SZ32 - ?
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2. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 9.299 - R969 -
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3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.724 - SZ36 -
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4. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 11.49 - R437 -
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5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 11.56 - I9033 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.95 - R107 -
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7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.16 - R60 -
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8. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.17 - R54 -
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9. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.3 - SZ43 -
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10. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 12.31 - R835 -
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11. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 12.46 - I5769 -
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12. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.73 - R1290 -
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13. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.81 - R973 -
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14. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 12.92 - R436 -
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15. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.06 - R57 -
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16. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 13.07 - CL36 - ?
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17. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.08 - R136 -
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18. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 13.74 - R125 -
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19. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 13.88 - R32 -
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20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 13.9 - R117 -
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21. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ19 -
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22. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.97 - SZ40 - ?
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23. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 14.04 - R1548 -
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24. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.08 - I12649 -
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25. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 14.1 - NS3c - ?
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26. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 14.26 - I6491 -
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27. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.34 - R65 -
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28. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 14.4 - CL121 -
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29. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 14.61 - R47 -
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30. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.68 - R49 -
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31. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.79 - R970 -
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32. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.88 - R56 -
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33. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 14.97 - R36 -
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34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.07 - I3576 -
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35. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R35 -
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36. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.42 - R1 -
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37. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.48 - BSS31
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38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.54 - scy197b - ?
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39. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.68 - scy192 -
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40. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 15.74 - I3575 -
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41. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.76 - SZ28 - ?
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42. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 15.94 - I4930 -
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43. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 16.14 - NS3b - ?
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44. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.2 - SI-53 -
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45. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 16.3 - R58 -
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46. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 16.5 - R69 -
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47. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.62 - R51 -
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48. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.69 - OBS137 - ?
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49. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.74 - R133 -
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50. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.76 - R114 -
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51. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.78 - R52 -
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52. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I2647
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53. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.16 - R64 -
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54. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.43 - R118 -
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55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.59 - R1283 -
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56. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 17.75 - I3983 -
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57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.77 - I4332 -
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58. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 17.88 - R59 -
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59. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.98 - I3582 -
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60. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1540
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https://i.postimg.cc/zBnMhz1F/mag3.png


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Angela
07-01-20, 19:15
I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. Here are my updated results:

https://i.postimg.cc/zv7BXYtx/mag1.png


https://i.postimg.cc/nrk21Mrp/time.png


https://i.postimg.cc/y6pCBNnw/mag2.png


Romans- 43.6%
Hellenic Romans- 12.1%
Roman Hispania- 10.2%
Ancient Greek- 7.98%
Illyrian- 5.64%
Minoan- 4.85%
Thracian- 4.46%
Gallo-Roman- 3.59%
Phillistine- 2.84%
Hittite- 2.72%
Gaul- 1.9%


1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.129 - SZ32 - ?
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2. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 9.299 - R969 -
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3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.724 - SZ36 -
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4. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 11.49 - R437 -
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5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 11.56 - I9033 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.95 - R107 -
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7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.16 - R60 -
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8. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.17 - R54 -
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9. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.3 - SZ43 -
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10. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 12.31 - R835 -
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11. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 12.46 - I5769 -
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12. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.73 - R1290 -
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13. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.81 - R973 -
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14. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 12.92 - R436 -
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15. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.06 - R57 -
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16. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 13.07 - CL36 - ?
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17. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.08 - R136 -
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18. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 13.74 - R125 -
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19. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 13.88 - R32 -
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20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 13.9 - R117 -
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21. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ19 -
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22. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.97 - SZ40 - ?
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23. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 14.04 - R1548 -
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24. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.08 - I12649 -
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25. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 14.1 - NS3c - ?
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26. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 14.26 - I6491 -
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27. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.34 - R65 -
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28. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 14.4 - CL121 -
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29. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 14.61 - R47 -
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30. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.68 - R49 -
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31. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.79 - R970 -
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32. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.88 - R56 -
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33. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 14.97 - R36 -
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34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.07 - I3576 -
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35. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R35 -
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36. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.42 - R1 -
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37. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.48 - BSS31
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38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.54 - scy197b - ?
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39. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.68 - scy192 -
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40. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 15.74 - I3575 -
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41. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.76 - SZ28 - ?
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42. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 15.94 - I4930 -
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43. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 16.14 - NS3b - ?
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44. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.2 - SI-53 -
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45. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 16.3 - R58 -
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46. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 16.5 - R69 -
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47. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.62 - R51 -
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48. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.69 - OBS137 - ?
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49. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.74 - R133 -
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50. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.76 - R114 -
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51. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.78 - R52 -
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52. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I2647
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53. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.16 - R64 -
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54. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.43 - R118 -
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55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.59 - R1283 -
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56. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 17.75 - I3983 -
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57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.77 - I4332 -
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58. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 17.88 - R59 -
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59. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.98 - I3582 -
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60. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1540
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https://i.postimg.cc/zBnMhz1F/mag3.png


https://i.postimg.cc/qMbkqLwM/cm1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MHn9DqCL/cm2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/jjdqS105/cm3.png
https://i.postimg.cc/sDdVhxdb/cm4.png
https://i.postimg.cc/JhnmLBZH/cm5.png
https://i.postimg.cc/J0gHNL8P/cm6.png
https://i.postimg.cc/X7RyX4Qv/cm7.png
https://i.postimg.cc/LXQJSpJ2/cm8.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9QHrC1QR/cm9.png
https://i.postimg.cc/QNRpKQMs/cm10.png
https://i.postimg.cc/kgy8HLvX/cm11.png

This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Blue is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Grey is Great Britain or generally Northwest European "like".

https://i.imgur.com/WFQRSnU.png

Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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torzio
07-01-20, 19:27
This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Blue is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Grey is Great Britain or generally Northwest European "like".

https://i.imgur.com/WFQRSnU.png

Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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for correction

A population assignment analysis (PAA) that estimates uncertainty in genetic ancestry assignment finds that individuals with high CEU + GBR ancestry are assigned to countries from all over modern central, northern, and northwest Europe (Supplementary Note 10 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4#MOESM1), Supplementary Figure 50 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4#MOESM1), Supplementary Data 4 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4#MOESM6)). We refer to this as central/northern ancestry as it is generally difficult to distinguish this with more precision given the resolution of our data.

as you see below....they combined 2 to get the blue
https://i.postimg.cc/Gmg3rBz7/lombard-samples.png (https://postimages.org/)

If the combine TSI+IBS the result = Balkan .............as per what is stated in other papers

Angela
07-01-20, 19:36
This will show you the makeup of the Szolad samples to which you're closest. Red is TSI Tuscan, Green is IBS Spain, which is a combination of Catalan and Andalusian samples, and Blue is generally Northwest European "like".

https://i.imgur.com/WFQRSnU.png

Their algorithm puts me much closer to Szolad than gedmatch calculators do, but further from Illyrians, Scythians, Thracians etc. (I get a distance of 6 with those tools), so they're NOT just a rip off of K15.
1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 3.614 - SZ43 -
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2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 4.508 - CL36 - ?
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3. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 5.964 - R60 -
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4. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 6.241 - R1 -
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5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.771 - SZ36 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.391 - R107 -
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7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.474 - R970 -
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8. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 8.697 - R1540
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9. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.44 - R36 -
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10. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 9.528 - BSS31
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11. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 9.549 - R1290 -
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12. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 9.561 - R835 -
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13. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.698 - SZ28 - ?
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14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 9.734 - CL121 -
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15. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 10.06 - scy192 -
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Sorry, Dibran, I screwed up the color code. Red is TSI like, Green is IBS like, and Blue is Northwest European like. It would have been clearer if they hadn't limited themselves to 1000 genomes. Or maybe Amorim saw this was actually MORE clear. :)

Here is what I mean about the Illyrian/Dalmatian samples. In gedmatch ancient calculations I'm at about 6 from all these people.

18. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 10.28 - I3313 -
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36. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.23 - scy197b - ?
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37. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.43 - I4331 -
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43. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 12.98 - scy300 -
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Illyri
07-01-20, 22:42
I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. ^

I do not understand it either. In the breakdown, I have almost two times more Illyrian than Thracian but Illyrians do not even appear among my closest ancient populations.

Hawk
07-01-20, 23:53
Are you using the pay option in mytrueancestrue to get additional information?

torzio
07-01-20, 23:54
I do not understand it either. In the breakdown, I have almost two times more Illyrian than Thracian but Illyrians do not even appear among my closest ancient populations.

If you read the history of alexanders father philip, it is stated that the illyrians got down south circa 350bc.......the thracians where there with the dardanians, paeonians etc, since the bronze age

Tutkun Arnaut
08-01-20, 01:36
If you read the history of alexanders father philip, it is stated that the illyrians got down south circa 350bc.......the thracians where there with the dardanians, paeonians etc, since the bronze age
They came with a bus? I have not read that story!

Duarte
08-01-20, 02:45
Ancient Sample Breakdown:

https://i.imgur.com/ZXBo7hp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/H2lvWkv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BhWFLUW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/71LG3Kc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oEevhne.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TCD9tpZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ImrZLxo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WbOdGNd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rf8IFam.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OrMgjIB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zmpWieH.jpg

Carlos
08-01-20, 18:01
Kit: Iberian El Argar Bronze Age (I8136) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
1. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 2.635 - ATP9 -
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2. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 5.226 - I3490 -
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3. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 5.349 - I1388 -
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4. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 5.35 - VAD004 -
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5. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 5.879 - I7162 -
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6. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 5.939 - I2470 -
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7. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 7.424 - I3323 -
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8. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 7.88 - Niedertiefenbach21 - ?
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9. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 7.881 - I2471 -
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10. Iberian / Ilergetes Tribe (550 BC) ..... 9.33 - I3322 -
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11. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 9.521 - I6490 -
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12. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 9.711 - VAD005 -
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13. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 9.747 - I3321 -
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14. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 10.73 - I1274 -
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15. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 11.04 - Niedertiefenbach20
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16. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1525 BC) ..... 11.54 - OTTM_156 -
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17. North Alpine Bronze Age (1755 BC) ..... 11.73 - AITI_95 -
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18. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 11.88 - Niedertiefenbach40 - ?
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19. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 11.89 - VAD001 -
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20. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 12.52 - I12878 -
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21. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 12.83 - I1840 -
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22. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.17 - I3320 -
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23. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 13.34 - I3327 -
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24. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 13.53 - I1281 -
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25. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 13.61 - I12171 -
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26. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 13.62 - VO10207
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27. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.02 - I2472 -
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28. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 14.05 - I3493 -
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29. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 14.32 - R1021 -
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30. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 14.64 - Niedertiefenbach33 - ?
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31. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 14.72 - I12410 -
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32. Bronze Age Valencia Lloma de Betxi (1841 BC) ..... 14.82 - I3997 -
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33. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 14.87 - R1289 -
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34. Neolithic North Portugal (2450 BC) ..... 14.99 - LD1174 - ?
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35. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 15.23 - Niedertiefenbach10 - ?
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36. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 15.51 - I12208 -
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37. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 15.56 - I12209 -
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38. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 15.66 - I4556 -
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39. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 16.43 - R1016 -
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40. Neolithic Ireland (3200 BC) ..... 16.63 - Ballynahatty - ?
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41. Neolithic Orkney Islands (3220 BC) ..... 16.71 - I7554 -
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42. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 16.86 - Niedertiefenbach37 - ?
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43. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 17.13 - I8339 -
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44. Carthago Mix Iberia (2600 BC) ..... 17.21 - CMOL53 - ?
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45. Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age (2705 BC) ..... 17.38 - TRM102 -
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46. Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age (2705 BC) ..... 17.41 - TRM101 -
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47. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 17.52 - Niedertiefenbach27 - ?
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48. Neolithic Ireland (3200 BC) ..... 17.6 - BallynahattyB
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49. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 17.78 - R473 -
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50. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1115 AD) ..... 17.85 - I10897 -
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51. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 17.92 - I7673 -
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52. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 17.99 - I1280 -
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53. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 18.0 - I12877 -
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54. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 18.1 - I2478 -
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55. Portugal Lorga de Dine (2450 BC) ..... 18.14 - LD270
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56. Ancient Spain Lucena (2950 BC) ..... 18.14 - LU339
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57. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 18.38 - R110 -
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58. Neolithic Orkney Islands (3250 BC) ..... 18.49 - I2636 -
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59. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 18.63 - R851 -
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60. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 18.67 - I3777 -
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61. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 18.96 - I12879 -
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62. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 19.0 - LM_213_T -
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63. Neolithic Arran Island (3400 BC) ..... 19.09 - I2988 -
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64. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 19.24 - I1300 -
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65. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 19.27 - I8475 -
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66. North Alpine Bronze Age (1677 BC) ..... 19.42 - AITI_98 -
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67. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 19.43 - I3757 -
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68. Neolithic Portugal (3500 BC) ..... 19.56 - MC337
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69. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 19.7 - I6492 -
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70. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 19.91 - R1015 -
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71. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 19.97 - I3759 -
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72. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 20.2 - R109 -
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73. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) ..... 20.22 - KEB6 - ?
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74. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 20.35 - Niedertiefenbach1 - ?
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75. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 20.37 - I3758 -
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76. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 20.71 - FN_2
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77. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 20.73 - I8214 -
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78. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 20.9 - I10853 -
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79. Carthaginian Ibiza (270 BC) ..... 21.04 - MS10614 - ?
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80. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 21.26 - I12561 -
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81. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 21.36 - R435 -
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82. Neolithic Scotland (3220 BC) ..... 21.43 - I7554 -
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83. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3238 -
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84. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (990 AD) ..... 21.47 - I10892 -
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85. Bronze Age Koenigsbrunn Germany (2012 BC) ..... 21.52 - OBKR_50 -
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86. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 21.64 - I7457 -
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87. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 21.69 - I12034 -
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88. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) ..... 21.71 - I10895 -
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89. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 21.75 - I1303 -
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90. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 21.83 - I8209 -
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91. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 21.84 - I7497 -
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92. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 21.96 - I7675 -
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93. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 22.06 - R474 -
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94. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 22.29 - R105 -
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95. Grotta Continenza Neolithic Italy (5200 BC) ..... 22.29 - R6 -
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96. Italy Copper Age (3250 BC) ..... 22.44 - Rise487 -
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97. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 22.44 - I10851 -
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98. High Status Male Haunstetten (2059 BC) ..... 22.5 - POST_44 -
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99. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 22.72 - SI-40 -
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100. Italy Copper Age (2800 BC) ..... 23.04 - Rise489 -
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101. High Status Burial Mound Haunstetten (2112 BC) ..... 23.06 - POST_50 -
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102. Immigrant Medieval Denmark (1305 AD) ..... 23.18 - G274 -
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103. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 23.37 - I2416-BB -
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104. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 23.63 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
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105. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 23.72 - I10852 -
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106. North Alpine Bronze Age (1797 BC) ..... 23.81 - AITI_66 -
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107. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 23.81 - I3324 -
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108. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 23.89 - DA198 -
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109. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (990 AD) ..... 23.97 - R63 -
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110. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 24.04 - I7500 -
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111. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 24.11 - R37 -
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112. Italy Copper Age (1900 BC) ..... 24.19 - Rise486 -
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113. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 24.3 - I12640 -
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114. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 24.36 - R1285 -
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115. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1400 AD) ..... 24.36 - I8146 -
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116. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 24.46 - I10866 -
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117. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1563 BC) ..... 24.69 - OTTM_151ind2 -
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118. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 25.02 - FN_2
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119. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 25.08 - scy300 -
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120. Bronze Age Sardinia SC (2200 BC) ..... 25.5 - R28 -
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121. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 25.57 - R116 -
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122. Iron Age Catalan (600 BC) ..... 25.57 - I12642 -
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123. Carthaginian Roman (275 BC) ..... 25.9 - I8204 -
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93% match vs all users

124. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 26.06 - I3499 -
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125. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 26.1 - scy305 -
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126. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 26.23 - R33 -
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127. North Alpine Bronze Age (1794 BC) ..... 26.37 - AITI_43 -
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128. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 26.65 - I8203 -
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129. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 26.66 - LM_406_T -
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130. Neolithic Germany (3200 BC) ..... 26.66 - I0172 -
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131. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 26.74 - I3585 -
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132. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 27.15 - DA111 -
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46% match vs all users

133. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 27.2 - R111 -
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134. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 27.52 - I3982 -
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135. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 27.58 - I12641 -
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136. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (1873 BC) ..... 27.73 - UNTA58_153 -
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39% match vs all users

137. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 27.76 - R1287 -
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138. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 27.84 - I12644 -
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139. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 27.85 - I7498 -
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140. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 27.87 - R108 -
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141. Viking Sweden - Basque Female (1100 AD) ..... 28.02 - bns023 -
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142. Iberia (2750 BC) ..... 28.04 - I1314 -
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143. Medieval Iberian (580 AD) ..... 28.1 - CL23 -
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144. Bronze Age Sardinia SC (1950 BC) ..... 28.28 - R22 -
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145. Bronze Age Sardinia SC (2200 BC) ..... 28.28 - R25 -
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146. Carthago Outlier San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 28.29 - R121 -
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147. Iron Age Catalan (650 BC) ..... 28.35 - I3776 -
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148. North Alpine Bronze Age (1752 BC) ..... 28.67 - AITI_120 -
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149. Ripa Biance Neolithic Italy (5300 BC) ..... 28.69 - R19 -
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150. High Status North Alpine Bronze Age (1789 BC) ..... 28.77 - AITI_119 -
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151. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 29.04 - R113 -
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152. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 29.05 - I2644
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72% match vs all users

153. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 29.09 - I12516 -
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154. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 29.15 - AEH_1 - ?
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155. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 29.17 - I2477 -
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156. Iberian / Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 29.43 - CL94 -
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21% match vs all users

157. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 29.5 - R1221 -
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25% match vs all users

158. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 29.61 - R475 -
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91% match vs all users

159. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 29.7 - MJ12 -
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43% match vs all users

160. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 29.86 - scy197b - ?
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32% match vs all users

161. Bronze Age Sardinia SC (2200 BC) ..... 30.04 - R29 -
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99% match vs all users

162. North Alpine Bronze Age (1788 BC) ..... 30.08 - AITI_40 -
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31% match vs all users

163. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 30.09 - I3313 -
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21% match vs all users

164. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 30.1 - STR_535 -
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32% match vs all users

165. Ancient Gotlander Outlier (2750 BC) ..... 30.21 - Gok4 -
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97% match vs all users

166. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 30.24 - I4331 -
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24% match vs all users

167. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 30.31 - I12646 -
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96% match vs all users

168. North Alpine Bronze Age (1950 BC) ..... 30.41 - AITI_70 -
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32% match vs all users

169. Medieval Sardinia (1300 AD) ..... 30.47 - Geridu2568-1 -
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89% match vs all users

170. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 30.48 - SZ28 - ?
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171. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 30.59 - scy192 -
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38% match vs all users

172. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 30.64 - I4332 -
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173. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 30.67 - PCA36 - ?
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174. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 30.78 - R55 -
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175. Aristocrat Iron Age Thrace (425 BC) ..... 30.88 - K8 -
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176. Monte San Biagio BB Copper Italy (3000 BC) ..... 30.95 - R1014 -
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177. Bronze Age Sardinia SC (2200 BC) ..... 31.0 - R26 -
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178. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 31.11 - I12514 -
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21% match vs all users

179. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1966 BC) ..... 31.14 - POST_28 -
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180. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 31.24 - I3874 -
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32% match vs all users

181. Vucedol Bronze Age Croatia (2740 BC) ..... 31.32 - I2792 -
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182. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 31.36 - I12515 -
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183. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 31.46 - scy304 -
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31% match vs all users

184. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 31.56 - I3981 -
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49% match vs all users

185. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 31.58 - BIM33
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186. North Alpine Bronze Age (1791 BC) ..... 31.6 - AITI_2 -
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187. High Status Bronze Age Wehringen (1865 BC) ..... 31.65 - WEHR_1586 -
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188. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 31.7 - R61 -
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189. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 31.79 - I2515
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190. Guanche Canary Islands (1100 AD) ..... 32.04 - gun008 -
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93% match vs all users

191. Grotta Continenza Copper Italy (2910 BC) ..... 32.07 - R4 -
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192. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 32.1 - R120 -
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193. Ripa Biance Neolithic Italy (5275 BC) ..... 32.18 - R17 -
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99% match vs all users

194. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen (950 AD) ..... 32.44 - KT09 - ?
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23% match vs all users

195. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 32.55 - CL47b
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21% match vs all users

196. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 32.59 - I2514
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197. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 32.6 - I3582 -
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51% match vs all users

198. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 32.62 - I2649
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19% match vs all users

199. Ripa Biance Neolithic Italy (5250 BC) ..... 32.67 - R16 -
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200. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 32.84 - AITI_78 -
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VrNMRUKCAcM/XgY1ReXsDKI/AAAAAAAAB04/fsxr5SlyAg4obvgP6ZJJ38pRU1LmcQxTACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/elARGARsegmentos.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eV75R28WXeA/XgY1UuCH2WI/AAAAAAAAB08/5-LMcvxeDKgH-Drfunu8T_p2tE710Zk8wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/elargarsegmentos2.jpeg
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dXZbPyd1IwU/XhX60aYRhTI/AAAAAAAACJA/pZpnBKMuBH4z2iPrTfuvizTuKo5SCqmJwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IBERIANelArgarBronzeAGEI8136.JPEG





Ilirio, latin, hispanic roman, Basque, must be Iberian I think and rooster, Celtic must be the bell beaker and Carthaginian some African entries in Iberia otherwise it is anachronistic.

Anothers kits from Iberia:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4lc07xABwhk/XhIwwj1XbcI/AAAAAAAAB-c/_-w0eld2bCQGOC6M0weISZ_KyeqBfT6zwCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BronzeAgeLomadelPuercoI7162.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X7CK0IFHfy0/XhIxVraRGKI/AAAAAAAAB_k/lC3dzyoHqg0SEsSStJUSZ11zORF3B315gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VasconesTribeI12879.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nOB7TZHUy5I/XhIxYVjOnuI/AAAAAAAAB_o/toaFcGCfDNAz6XCVfv3xomI6579WAvH-wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/VASCONEStribeVasconiaI3758.JPEG

Could you identify segments or a pack of genes from El Argar or La Loma del Puerco and even without Iberians give them a unique nomenclature and find where those segments or pack are to have our own nationalist nomenclature actually being the Iberian group? Because if it is done with others you can also fragment the Iberian into thousands of Iberians making them different when they are not so much.

Dibran
08-01-20, 18:18
Are you using the pay option in mytrueancestrue to get additional information?

I did yea. Just for the King Level. Was 20 dollars one I got it. I refuse to upgrade to these other packages for 100 plus dollars. Pure theft.

torzio
08-01-20, 23:02
my trentino cousin has had her #1 points lowered and number 10 added

1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 4.445 - R1 -
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2. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 5.549 - CL36 - ?
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3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 6.369 - SZ43 -
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4. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.084 - SZ36 -
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5. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.479 - SZ28 - ?
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6. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 8.056 - NS3c - ?
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7. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 8.27 - R970 -
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8. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.625 - I3313 -
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9. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 8.921 - scy197b - ?
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10. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 9.056 - R36 -
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11. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 9.109 - scy192 -
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.................................................. ............

R36
mtDNA: T1a1
Y-DNA: R-Z145


my cousin is mtdna T1a1e


i do not seem to have SZ1 in MTA ....while below I do , ..........R1 and I3313 are correct though

red circle = main
orange is next
then yellow
green
and blue last

https://i.postimg.cc/QxZ9rSpC/iron-age-me.png (https://postimg.cc/6Tz5rrbx)

Carlos
11-01-20, 15:52
New very old results

23. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 12.17
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33. Iberian Settlement Catalonia Spain (250 BC) ..... 13.44 - I3496 -
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53. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 14.36 - I3243
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110. El Sotillo Basque Country (1555 BC) ..... 17.03 - I1977 -
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180. Oxford Infirmiary (1790 AD) ..... 21.25 - CSD
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46% match vs all users

Carlos
12-01-20, 01:26
Ancient Sample Breakdown:
My Breakdown if there were only Basque-Iberian samples in MTA

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wWfk5HDyfPA/XhpZJtw75rI/AAAAAAAACJw/9pk2Dmn-qywm3Tl37j8pqrGUXKnJdyX6wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vasco%25C3%25ADberos.jpeg

Carlos
14-01-20, 04:23
News results of El Argar

Kit: Iberian El Argar Bronze Age (I8136) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)


29. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (3250 BC) ..... 14.07 - I3214 -

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44. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 16.87 - I3243 -
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49. Iberian Settlement Catalonia Spain (250 BC) ..... 17.44 - I3496
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63. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 18.96 - I10285
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65. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 18.97 - I10277 -

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76. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 20.07 - I10284 -
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99. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 21.98 - I10280
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101. El Sotillo Basque Country (1555 BC) ..... 22.2 - I1977 -
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107. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 22.61 - I3239 -
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110. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 23.05 - I10287
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142. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 27.11 - I10278 -
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173. El Sotillo Basque Country (875 BC) ..... 30.05 - I2469 -
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New results for:

Kit: Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (I7162) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)


28. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (3250 BC) ..... 13.46 - I3214 -
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45. Iberian Settlement Catalonia Spain (250 BC) ..... 15.49 - I3496
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46. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 15.77 - I3243 -

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82. El Sotillo Basque Country (1555 BC) ..... 19.36 - I1977
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85. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 19.4 - I3239
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86. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 19.43 - I10277
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89. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 19.61 - I10285 -
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91. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 19.77 - I10284 -
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120. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 22.31 - I10280
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135. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 23.65 - I10287
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169. Cova de la Guineu Spain (2950 BC) ..... 27.37 - I10278 -
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197. El Sotillo Basque Country (875 BC) ..... 29.43 - I2469 -
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Very old samples. The Iberia populations are very related. Cogotas also gets all the others. I have obtained the same less Cova de la guineu.

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My strangest imputes:

1. Ancient Malaysia (2330 BC) ..... 29.13 - Ma911 -
3. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) ..... 31.74 - Vim2
4. Hunnic Tian Shan (475 AD) ..... 32.22 - DA65
6. Turkic (768 AD) ..... 34.92 - DA228
7. Iron Age NW China (135 AD) ..... 35.15 - SRZ_M819
9. Ancient Mongolia (250 BC) ..... 35.86 - DA41
10. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) ..... 36.59 - cim358
12. Hellenic Ottoman (1500 AD) ..... 36.69 - MA2196
17. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 37.99 - NS12a
19. Early Sarmatian Russia (300 BC) ..... 38.34 - I0247 -
21. Cimmerian Moldova (900 BC) ..... 38.59 - cim359 -

28. Guanche Canary Islands (960 AD) ..... 39.83 - gun005 -

29. Kimak Turkic Tribe (800 AD) ..... 40.08 - DA87 -
34. Skeleton Lake Mixed Worshipper (870 AD) ..... 40.52 - I2872
35. Russia Verh-Uimon (1 AD) ..... 40.59 - Rise601
37. Greco-Bactrian Tajikistan (50 BC) ..... 40.81 - I12293
43. Shimomotoyama Rock Shelter Japan (200 AD) ..... 41.16 - Shimomotoyama2
48. Iron Age Sarmatian (350 BC) ..... 41.32 - I0575
52. Hunnic Tien Shan (180 AD) ..... 41.49 - DA101
54. Eastern Scythian Kazakhstan (650 BC) .....
58. Eurasian Steppes Central Saka (700 BC) ..... 41.91 - DA13
59. Mongol Ottoman (1500 AD) ..... 41.93 - MA2195b
62. Hunnic Bulan-Koba (1 AD) ..... 42.23 - Rise602 -

66. Kushan Ksirov Tajikistan (20 BC) ..... 42.3 - I12294
67. Skeleton Lake Alan Outlier Worshipper (830 AD) ..... 42.31 - I6944
77. Siberia Karasuk (1400 BC) ..... 42.63 - Rise499b -
87. Ancient Japan / Jomon (620 BC) ..... 42.88 - IK002
90. Medieval Ghaznavid Mosque (1120 AD) ..... 43.05 - I2959
91. Sarmatian Russia (140 AD) ..... 43.11 - chy002
94. Eurasian Steppes (1500 BC) ..... 43.15 - DA231
95. Ancient Laos (5900 BC) ..... 43.19 - La368
100. Eastern Scythian Kazakhstan (650 BC) ..... 43.3 - MJ54
104. Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 43.38 - G119
105. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 43.4 - I9033
108. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 43.56 - Ker1
109. Aral Sea Karasuk (1480 BC) ..... 43.58 - Rise493
111. Sarmatian Russia (140 AD) ..... 43.73 - chy001
114. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 43.94 - R136
117. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) ..... 44.01 - I6777
121. Saidu Sharif Buddhist Monastery (400 BC) ..... 44.11 - I6893
125. Hunnic Scythian Steppes (650 BC) ..... 44.2 - MJ42
132. Kenya Kokurmatakore PIA (600 AD) ..... 44.32 - I8904
135. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) ..... 44.48 - I9123
137. Middle Sarmatian Urals (266 BC) ..... 44.59 - MJ44
148. Shimomotoyama Rock Shelter Japan (200 AD) ..... 44.85 - Shimomotoyama3
154. Andaman Islander (1800 AD) ..... 45.03 - Andaman -

155. Early-Alan Mix Tajikistan (100 BC) ..... 45.04 - I12260 -

157. Iron Age Sarmatian (20 BC) ..... 45.07 - DA30
166. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) ..... 45.18 - cim357
167. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 45.23 - I3808
169. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 45.33 - R436
171. Siberia Andronovo (1500 BC) ..... 45.34 - Rise500
172. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 45.35 - R1540
173. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 45.37 - R835 -

179. Caucasus Outlier Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 45.54 - G117
180. Fennoscandia Mix Finland (550 AD) ..... 45.58 - DA237 -

183. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (580 AD) ..... 45.66 - CL38
186. Fennoscandia Finland (550 AD) ..... 45.71 - JK1968
189. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) ..... 45.78 - I2443
192. Skeleton Lake Pathan/Sindhi Worshipper (860 AD) ..... 45.89 - I3349
193. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) ..... 45.92 - I4070 -
195. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 45.92 - Rise397
198. Proto-Hungarian Conqueror (800 AD) ..... 45.98 - K3per12
199. Czech Bilina_N_Baalberge CWC (3600 BC) ..... 46.0 - I6696 -

Carlos
17-01-20, 15:34
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

1. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 4.463 - R474 -
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2. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 4.727 - I10852 -
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3. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 4.743 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -
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4. Gallo-Roman Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 4.989 - R109 -
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5. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 5.24 - I3239 -
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6. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 AD) ..... 5.456 - FN_2
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7. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 5.576 - I10851 -
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8. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) ..... 5.682 - I12034 -
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9. High Status Burial Mound Haunstetten (2112 BC) ..... 5.784 - POST_50 -
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10. High Status Male Haunstetten (2059 BC) ..... 6.485 - POST_44 -
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11. North Alpine Bronze Age (1794 BC) ..... 6.564 - AITI_43 -
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12. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 6.673 - LM_406_T -
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13. Roman Soldier Germany (300 AD) ..... 7.311 - FN_2
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14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (880 AD) ..... 8.427 - I10895 -
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15. Celtiberian Mix Tribe Northern Spain (2300 BC) ..... 8.68 - I3238 -
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16. Gallo-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 8.902 - R108 -
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17. Latin Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 9.188 - R37 -
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18. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (600 BC) ..... 9.217 - I4556 -
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19. Iberian Settlement Catalonia Spain (250 BC) ..... 9.352 - I3496 -
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20. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 9.705 - I3324 -
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21. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 9.82 - I12209 -
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22. Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 9.854 - R33 -
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23. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 9.956 - I12208 -
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24. Vasconic-Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 10.02 - R110 -
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25. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (2350 BC) ..... 10.25 - I3243 -
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26. El Sotillo Basque Country (1555 BC) ..... 10.26 - I1977 -
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27. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PC (400 BC) ..... 10.43 - R435 -
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28. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 10.44 - R61 -
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29. Latin Tribe Inland BE (650 BC) ..... 10.46 - R1021 -
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30. North Alpine Bronze Age (1815 BC) ..... 10.53 - AITI_72 -
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31. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (1060 AD) ..... 10.68 - I10853 -
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32. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 10.71 - R1221 -
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33. Gallo-Roman Celt Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 10.87 - I10866 -
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34. Villanovan Etruscan Italy VGG (850 BC) ..... 10.94 - R1015 -
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35. Medieval France Saint-Laurent-de-la-Cabrerisse (1348 AD) ..... 11.02 - SLC1006 - ?
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36. Ilergetes Outlier Catalan (440 BC) ..... 11.04 - I12410 -
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37. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 11.2 - Niedertiefenbach1 - ?
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38. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 11.23 - R116 -
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39. Celtibertian Mix (275 BC) ..... 11.33 - I8203 -
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40. North Alpine Bronze Age (1677 BC) ..... 11.58 - AITI_98 -
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41. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.67 - R55 -
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42. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 11.74 - I12514 -
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43. Iron Age Catalan (620 BC) ..... 11.86 - I12640 -
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44. Iron Age Catalan (680 BC) ..... 11.89 - I12641 -
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45. Latin Tribe Ardea (650 BC) ..... 11.91 - R851 -
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46. Portuguese Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 11.96 - I12516 -
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47. North Alpine Bronze Age (1797 BC) ..... 11.96 - AITI_66 -
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48. Etruscan Civitavecchia (650 BC) ..... 12.01 - R473 -
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49. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 12.05 - I2472 -
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50. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.11 - I4332 -
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51. Iberian / Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 12.19 - CL94 -
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52. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 12.31 - I8339 -
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53. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 12.44 - R1289 -
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54. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1563 BC) ..... 12.66 - OTTM_151ind2 -
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55. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 12.69 - I4331 -
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56. Western Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 12.71 - DA198 -
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57. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 12.78 - I3759 -
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58. Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 12.84 - I7498 -
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59. North Alpine Bronze Age (1950 BC) ..... 13.04 - AITI_70 -
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60. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 13.05 - CL47b
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61. Vasconic Tribe Empuries (275 BC) ..... 13.19 - I8214 -
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62. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 13.59 - I12878 -
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63. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 13.64 - R105 -
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64. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) ..... 13.8 - BIM33
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65. North Alpine Bronze Age (1790 BC) ..... 13.82 - AITI_78 -
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66. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 13.84 - VAD001 -
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67. Latin Aristocrat Castel di Decima (800 BC) ..... 13.85 - R1016 -
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68. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 13.88 - I12561 -
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69. Vasconic Tribe (275 BC) ..... 13.88 - I8209 -
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70. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 13.9 - I2649
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71. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (200 BC) ..... 13.9 - I3320 -
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72. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 13.9 - PCA36 - ?
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86
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73. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1966 BC) ..... 14.06 - POST_28 -
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74. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 14.21 - Niedertiefenbach27 - ?
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99
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75. Boscombe Bowmen Amesbury (2300 BC) ..... 14.35 - I2416-BB -
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76. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1440 BC) ..... 14.49 - I1840 -
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77. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1215 AD) ..... 14.56 - R62 -
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78. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 14.68 - MJ12 -
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79. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 14.69 - scy197b - ?
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80. High Status North Alpine Bronze Age (1789 BC) ..... 14.7 - AITI_119 -
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81. North Alpine Bronze Age (1752 BC) ..... 14.79 - AITI_120 -
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82. Basque Carolingian (650 AD) ..... 14.85 - I3777 -
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83. Crusader Knight French / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 14.92 - SI-40 -
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84. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 15.05 - Niedertiefenbach37 - ?
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85. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 15.06 - DA195 -
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86. Germanic Mixed Tribe (505 AD) ..... 15.18 - AED513 - ?
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87. Vascones Tribe Vasconia (280 BC) ..... 15.23 - I3758 -
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88. Vascones Tribe (460 BC) ..... 15.29 - I12879 -
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89. Ilercavones Catalan (200 BC) ..... 15.43 - I3321 -
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90. North Alpine Bronze Age (1788 BC) ..... 15.47 - AITI_40 -
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91. Early Medieval Andalusia (760 AD) ..... 15.58 - I3585 -
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92. Portugal Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 15.62 - VO10207
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93. Spaniard Cordoba Caliphate (1050 AD) ..... 15.74 - I12515 -
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94. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.75 - scy192 -
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95. Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 15.76 - I7675 -
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96. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1485 AD) ..... 15.77 - R1220 -
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97. Le Mans Revolutionary France (1793 AD) ..... 15.8 - LM_306_T -
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98. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas I (1500 BC) ..... 15.81 - I3493 -
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99. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 15.88 - I4055 -
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100. Greuthungi / Ostrogoth (310 AD) ..... 15.97 - MJ37 -
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101. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (990 AD) ..... 15.99 - I10892 -
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102. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (280 BC) ..... 16.02 - I3327 -
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103. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 16.29 - I3313 -
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104. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 16.33 - I3499 -
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105. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.49 - I12171 -
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106. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1120 AD) ..... 16.5 - I2514
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107. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 16.54 - R1287 -
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108. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1100 AD) ..... 16.54 - I2515
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109. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.62 - OBS116 - ?
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110. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.64 - I12647 -
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111. Carthago-Maghrebi Andalusia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I7457 -
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112. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 16.86 - VAD005 -
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113. Roman-Carthago Mix Iberia (80 AD) ..... 16.86 - I8475 -
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114. Basque Carolingian (790 AD) ..... 16.95 - I7673 -
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115. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 16.98 - scy305 -
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116. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 17.03 - SZ28 - ?
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117. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.18 - I12649 -
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118. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 17.24 - Niedertiefenbach33 - ?
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119. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 17.29 - Niedertiefenbach20
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120. El Sotillo Basque Country (875 BC) ..... 17.38 - I2469 -
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121. Italy Bell Beaker (2000 BC) ..... 17.39 - I2478 -
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122. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1005 AD) ..... 17.61 - R1285 -
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123. Ilergetes Tribe Catalan (440 BC) ..... 17.63 - I12877 -
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124. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.67 - I12645 -
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125. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 17.83 - I2647
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126. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) ..... 17.84 - DA199 -
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127. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 18.06 - R36 -
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128. Visigoth Frankish Girona (550 AD) ..... 18.06 - I12032 -
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129. Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 18.06 - I12644 -
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130. Post Medieval Ellwangen Germany (1550 AD) ..... 18.09 - ELW098A_549O
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131. Hispano-Roman-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate (950 AD) ..... 18.22 - I7497 -
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132. Alemanni Celtic Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.26 - NS10 - ?
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133. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) ..... 18.26 - scy311 -
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134. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 18.4 - scy300 -
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135. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland (1100 AD) ..... 18.47 - PCA157_Mar6 - ?
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136. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) ..... 18.59 - I3874 -
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137. Germanic Tribe Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 18.65 - R106 -
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138. North Alpine Bronze Age (1791 BC) ..... 18.66 - AITI_2 -
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139. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 18.69 - Rise577 -
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140. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 18.76 - I3982 -
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141. Oxford Infirmiary (1790 AD) ..... 18.8 - CSD - ?
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142. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 18.81 - I2644
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143. Bronze Age Koenigsbrunn Germany (2012 BC) ..... 18.89 - OBKR_50 -
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144. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 18.93 - OBS137 - ?
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145. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 18.94 - I6490 -
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146. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 18.95 - I3981 -
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147. Medieval Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 18.96 - CL57 -
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148. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 18.96 - Niedertiefenbach10 - ?
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149. Medieval Iberian (580 AD) ..... 19.05 - CL23 -
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150. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (580 AD) ..... 19.2 - CL47 - ?
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151. Halstatt Celt (775 BC) ..... 19.32 - DA111 -
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152. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 19.38 - GTE-A1 -
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153. North Alpine Bronze Age (1755 BC) ..... 19.45 - AITI_95 -
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154. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1440 AD) ..... 19.52 - R1219 -
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155. Swiss Germanic (580 AD) ..... 19.54 - CL102 - ?
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156. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 19.56 - I12648 -
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157. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 19.66 - I2470 -
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158. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 19.69 - DA194 -
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159. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 19.93 - SZ45 -
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160. Bronze Age Northern Spain (1560 BC) ..... 19.97 - VAD004 -
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161. North Alpine Middle Bronze Age (1525 BC) ..... 20.07 - OTTM_156 -
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162. Pre-Indo European Tribe (1440 BC) ..... 20.13 - I2471 -
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163. Ostrogoth Mix (495 AD) ..... 20.14 - AEH_1 - ?
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164. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 20.15 - R111 -
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165. Cueva de la Paloma Spain (3250 BC) ..... 20.17 - I3214 -
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167. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (1873 BC) ..... 20.31 - UNTA58_153 -
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168. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 20.49 - NS3c - ?
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169. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 20.52 - I2458 -
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170. Pre-Roman Girona (280 BC) ..... 20.53 - I3323 -
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171. Germanic Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1429 AD) ..... 20.62 - R1288 -
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172. North Central Lombard (580 AD) ..... 20.63 - CL63 - ?
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173. Celtic-Mix Visigoth Girona Spain (550 AD) ..... 20.75 - I12164 -
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174. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 20.8 - R1 -
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175. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 20.84 - I12162 -
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176. Niedertiefenbach Western Germany (3200 BC) ..... 20.89 - Niedertiefenbach21 - ?
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177. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 20.94 - SZ23 -
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178. Morisco Convert Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 21.04 - I7425 -
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179. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 21.2 - I3875 -
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180. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 21.24 - I3582 -
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181. Bronze Age Haunstetten Germany (1975 BC) ..... 21.31 - POST_35 -
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182. Bronze Age Loma del Puerco (1800 BC) ..... 21.32 - I7162 -
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183. Bell Beaker France (2300 BC) ..... 21.36 - I1388 -
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184. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 21.52 - I5471 -
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185. Medieval Cambridge Plague Victim (1350 AD) ..... 21.57 - NMA003A
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186. Proto-Celtic Child Bronze Age Wehringen (1957 BC) ..... 21.59 - WEHR_1415child -
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187. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 21.67 - TSK-A26 -
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188. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.72 - GRS-A1 -
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189. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 21.75 - R1283 -
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190. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 21.84 - I3576 -
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191. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 21.91 - NTR-A2 -
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192. Celtiberian Alemannic Mix (520 AD) ..... 21.96 - STR_535 -
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193. Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) ..... 22.04 - OBKR_80 -
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195. Celtiberian Northern Spain (350 BC) ..... 22.11 - I3757 -
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196. Celtic Medieval Denmark Ribe (1305 AD) ..... 22.13 - G397 -
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197. Iberia Bronze Age (1600 BC) ..... 22.15 - ATP9 -
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198. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 22.2 - 6DRIF-22 -
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199. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 22.2 - SZ8 -
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200. Western Scythian Mix Hungary (550 BC) ..... 22.22 - DA197 -
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a6cWTbJeQZM/XiGzdFrAbyI/AAAAAAAACNU/SZFZIUMIkHYWVtkJuYW263XB940bq5dtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PCAmodern.jpeg

Mine

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6c7W_U-GZJ4/XiG16zyzhwI/AAAAAAAACNg/Qn70AgsiV5A7VN8j2Q_kxYTW1hFOTF-oQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/PCAmodernM%25C3%258DAenero2019.jpeg
At the moment the samples with which I get more snp in this case at 400 snp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYItAmtBfJE/XiGubpgcYHI/AAAAAAAACNA/ndIVrbXjt-QM3vdTftIlDDgTZke5sLbGwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MedievalVillaMagnaItalyANDImperialRomeMausoleo400s np%252Cjpeg.jpg

and 300 snp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TQz32849zH8/XiGueykR8bI/AAAAAAAACNE/_gAf2oW2qusxl-NkcOIqvnGGKSpfaerPgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicIrelandBallynahatty300snp.jpg

New Deep Dive for me

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fs-jKaXJW_k/XiHVg8OnRhI/AAAAAAAACQA/FPHeiU1AJvQL1WR9BAzY8H5r5jN415kuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IberianSttlementCataloniaSpainI3496.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dmXFU07ZgR0/XiHXIF57-8I/AAAAAAAACSo/JTxJTg4eEekwKS4A6oz28QakIm-E4fMtwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/SantJuliadeRamisI10853.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wAyIOF6xS2Q/XiHXL1Ko6DI/AAAAAAAACSw/PGmTX_nSrPAnk-jFKGqZ1Jw-8H4e58R_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/SantJuliadeRamisI10895.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iE6qVN_6Rnc/XiHYB3GH_TI/AAAAAAAACUM/7X-dVvr9vv0YZdDI7dksXQWrMpUSoyQ2QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/VisigothGermanicGironaI12152.JPEG
Comparation between my kit and Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e7Jx7D-Oo7c/XiJdFuRy7dI/AAAAAAAACVA/wPq-pKz84NcGbDHSNo-l4z0l9GTlNjPUwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/comparationYOwhithVillaMagnaR63.JPEG

I see that we agree in La Cueva de la Paloma, Visigoth, Gallo-Roman, Le Mans revolutionary, Etruscan and Cógotas (Vettones).

Salento
18-01-20, 05:30
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/TrophyGold.png You are the #1 top match to this sample! :)

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Duarte
18-01-20, 16:12
MTA - most recent results.

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Carlos
18-01-20, 16:21
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)Medical Analysis

SNP: rs12979860 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12979860) (CC) - Relevance:9.2
~80% of such hepatitis c patients respond to treatmentSNP: rs9939609 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9939609) (TA) - Relevance:7.2
1.3x risk for t2d; obesity riskSNP: gs153 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/gs153) (Positive) - Relevance:5.0
Ultra fast metabolismSNP: gs156a (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/gs156a) (Positive) - Relevance:5.0
Fast metabolismSNP: rs6983267 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6983267) (GT) - Relevance:3.2
1.3x risk of prostate cancer; aspirin reduces risk of colorectal cancerSNP: rs738409 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs738409) (CC) - Relevance:2.9
Higher odds of alcoholic liver disease, increased liver fatSNP: rs1042522 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1042522) (CC) - Relevance:2.8
Live 3 years longer. chemotherapy is more effective.SNP: rs8050136 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8050136) (CA) - Relevance:2.7
1.2x increased risk for t2d in some populationsSNP: rs7412 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7412) (CC) - Relevance:2.4
More likely to gain weight if taking olanzapineSNP: rs17782313 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17782313) (CC) - Relevance:2.2
Adults likely to be 0.44 bmi units higherSNP: rs1061170 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1061170) (CT) - Relevance:2.1
2.5x risk for amd; higher mortality among nonagenariansSNP: rs13266634 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13266634) (CC) - Relevance:2.0
Increased risk for type-2 diabetesSNP: rs671 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs671) (GG) - Relevance:1.8
Alcohol flush: normal, doesn\'t flush. normal hangovers. normal risk of alcoholism. normal risk of esophageal cancer. disulfiram is effective for alcoholism.SNP: rs2032582 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2032582) (AA) - Relevance:1.7
Rare genotype, on a triallelic snpSNP: rs53576 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs53576) (GG) - Relevance:1.6
Optimistic and empathetic; handle stress well}}the one in four subjects who inherited a variation in this allele called g/g were significantly better at accurately reading the emotions of others by observing their faces than were the remaining three-quarters of subjects, who had inherited either a pair of a's or an a and a g from their parents at this site. compared to the three-fourths with a/a or a/g variations, the g/g individuals were also less likely to startle when blasted by a loud noise, or to become stressed at the prospect of such a noise. and by their own reports, the g/g subjects were mellower and more attuned to other people than were the a/as or a/gs. [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/11/do-these-genes-make-my-heart-seem-big-study-finds-a-gene-for-empathy-.html news]-------effect on parental sensitivitycontrolling for maternal education, depression and marital discord, oxtr [f(1,152)=4.32, p=0.04, partial n2=0.03]gene was significantly associated with maternal sensitivity. mothers with oxtr aa or ag genotypes were less sensitive than mothers with the gg genotype. the genetic difference accounts for 3% influence on variation in sensitive parenting. [bakermans-kranenburg mj, van ijzendoorn mh. oxytocin receptor (oxtr) and serotonin transporter (5-htt) genes associated with observed parenting. soc cogn affect neurosci. 2008 jun;3(2):128-34.]in another study, heart rate responses of 40 healthy females without children were measured during the presentation of three episodes of infant cry sounds. participants with the presumably more efficient variant of the oxytonergic system gene (oxtr gg) had more pronounced physiological reactivity to repeated cry sounds, except when they showed more symptoms of depression.[riem mm, pieper s, out d, bakermans-kranenburg mj, van ijzendoorn mh. oxytocin receptor gene and depressive symptoms associated with physiological reactivity to infant crying. soc cogn affect neurosci. 2010 apr 16.][http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-life-scientists-discover-215259.aspx optimism]yet another study ({{pmid|19934046|oa=1SNP: rs1800562 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800562) (GG) - Relevance:1.3
Not a c282y hemochromatosis carrier.SNP: rs7566605 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7566605) (CC) - Relevance:1.3
Mixed evidence of increased obesity risk, may suppress excercise effects in menSNP: rs1799983 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1799983) (TG) - Relevance:1.3
Increased risk of preeclampsiaSNP: rs3184504 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3184504) (TT) - Relevance:1.3
Increased risk for celiac diseaseSNP: rs10811661 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10811661) (TT) - Relevance:1.3
1.2x increased risk for type-2 diabetesSNP: rs16944 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16944) (AA) - Relevance:1.2
Increased risk for osteoarthritisSNP: rs4402960 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4402960) (GT) - Relevance:1.2
1.2x increased risk for type-2 diabetes, ~1x risk for gestational diabetesSNP: rs401681 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs401681) (CC) - Relevance:1.1
~1.2x increased risk for several types of cancerSNP: rs4939827 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4939827) (TT) - Relevance:1.1
1x risk for colorectal cancerSNP: rs6897932 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6897932) (CC) - Relevance:1.1
1.5x increased risk for multiple sclerosisSNP: rs12913832 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12913832) (AA) - Relevance:1.0
Brown eye color, 80% of the timeSNP: rs599839 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs599839) (AA) - Relevance:1.0
1.4x increased risk for heart diseaseSNP: rs6311 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6311) (CC) - Relevance:0.9
3.6x increased risk of sexual dysfunction when taking ssri antidepressants.SNP: rs5219 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5219) (TT) - Relevance:0.8
2.5x increased risk for type-2 diabetesSNP: rs17070145 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17070145) (CC) - Relevance:0.8
Reduced memory abilitiesSNP: rs9340799 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9340799) (AA) - Relevance:0.8
Women have lower risk of endometriosis but normal risk for endometrial cancer, and more cognitive impairment with age.SNP: rs9923231 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9923231) (CT) - Relevance:0.8
Reduced warfarin dose if treated for vteSNP: rs2200733 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2200733) (CC) - Relevance:0.8
0.86x decreased risk of atrial fibrillationSNP: rs1042713 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1042713) (GA) - Relevance:0.8
1.3x increased risk that pediatric inhaler use may make asthma worseSNP: rs7756992 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7756992) (AG) - Relevance:0.8
1.3x increased risk for type-2 diabetesSNP: rs1799971 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1799971) (AG) - Relevance:0.8
Stronger cravings for alcohol. if alcoholic, naltrexone treatment 2x more successfulSNP: rs2230199 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2230199) (GC) - Relevance:0.8
1.6x+ risk of armdSNP: rs16891982 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16891982) (GG) - Relevance:0.8
Generally european; light skin; possibly an increased risk of melanoma}}this snp is associated with skin, hair, and eye colour, and risk of melanoma. individuals with the g;g genotype are generally of european descent and have fair skin.{{pmid auto|pmid=19710684|oa=1SNP: rs5186 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5186) (AC) - Relevance:0.7
~1.4x increased risk of hypertensionSNP: rs4343 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4343) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
Usually the ace alu deletion; better strength vs endurance;SNP: rs4570625 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4570625) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
Maybe: higher scores on anxiety-related personality traits; greater placebo response}}one study of (only) 25 people {{pmid|19052197SNP: rs1048661 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1048661) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
Possibly higher glaucoma risk?SNP: rs7517847 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7517847) (GG) - Relevance:0.7
0.65x reduced risk for crohn's diseaseSNP: rs7923837 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7923837) (GA) - Relevance:0.7
1.6x risk for t2dSNP: rs10889677 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10889677) (CC) - Relevance:0.7
1x increased risk for certain autoimmune diseases; 2.3x increased risk for graves diseaseSNP: rs505922 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs505922) (TT) - Relevance:0.7
Blood type oSNP: rs6280 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6280) (CC) - Relevance:0.7
Better response to olanzapineSNP: rs266729 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs266729) (CG) - Relevance:0.7
0.73x decreased risk for colorectal cancerSNP: rs1143679 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1143679) (GA) - Relevance:0.6
1.78x increased risk for sleSNP: rs12970134 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12970134) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
Adult waist 1.8cm larger on averageSNP: rs889312 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs889312) (CC) - Relevance:0.6
Very slightly higher risk for breast cancerSNP: rs9652490 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9652490) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
~2x increased risk for parkinson's disease, and, essential tremorSNP: rs2943641 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2943641) (CC) - Relevance:0.6
Increased risk for type 2 diabetesSNP: rs1042714 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1042714) (GC) - Relevance:0.6
Complex; see details for increased risksSNP: rs2275913 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2275913) (GA) - Relevance:0.6
1.4x increased gastric cancer risk. increased risk of acute graft-versus-host disease after unrelated bone marrow transplantationSNP: rs1426654 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1426654) (AA) - Relevance:0.6
Probably light-skinned, european ancestrySNP: rs17576 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17576) (GG) - Relevance:0.6
Higher risk for lung cancer, and copd in smokers; normal risk for miSNP: rs763361 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs763361) (TT) - Relevance:0.6
Increased risk for multiple autoimmune diseasesSNP: rs5498 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5498) (AG) - Relevance:0.6
0.6x decreased risk for diabetic nephropathy in females with type-1 diabetes; 1.9x increased malaria riskSNP: rs334558 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs334558) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
Later onset of bipolar disorderSNP: rs174546 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs174546) (CT) - Relevance:0.5
TriglyceridesSNP: rs3025058 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3025058) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
5a/5a; higher mi risk?SNP: rs7578597 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7578597) (TT) - Relevance:0.5
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs13387042 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13387042) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
1.24x increased risk for breast cancerSNP: rs7138803 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7138803) (GG) - Relevance:0.5
Body mass indexSNP: rs3761847 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3761847) (GA) - Relevance:0.5
1.32 x risk of rheumatoid arthritis.SNP: rs703842 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs703842) (AA) - Relevance:0.5
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs356219 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs356219) (GG) - Relevance:0.5
1.6x increased risk for parkinson's diseaseSNP: rs4307059 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4307059) (CC) - Relevance:0.5
Reduced autism riskSNP: rs1800947 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800947) (CC) - Relevance:0.5
Lower crp levelsSNP: rs7647305 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7647305) (CC) - Relevance:0.5
Obesity riskSNP: rs762551 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs762551) (CA) - Relevance:0.5
Carrier of one cyp1a2*1f allele; slow caffeine metabolizer.SNP: rs12708716 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12708716) (AG) - Relevance:0.5
1.2x risk of type-1 diabetesSNP: rs8176719 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8176719) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Likely to be of blood type oSNP: rs9934438 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9934438) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Coumadin resistanceSNP: rs5882 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5882) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Faster aging. increased risk for dementia. less good cholesterol.SNP: rs17465637 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17465637) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
1.34x higher risk for myocardial infarctionSNP: rs5370 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5370) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Possibly lower hdl cholesterol in womenSNP: rs2237895 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2237895) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs1535 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1535) (AG) - Relevance:0.4
4+ iq points for breastfeedingSNP: rs2815752 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2815752) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Body mass indexSNP: rs7927894 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7927894) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
0.83x lower risk of atopic dermatitis.SNP: rs225014 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs225014) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Hypothyroid patients might benefit from combination t4/t3 therapy (?)SNP: rs402710 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs402710) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Common, but higher lung cancer risk ?SNP: rs6887695 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6887695) (GG) - Relevance:0.4
1.4x increased risk of psoriasis, psoriatic arthritisSNP: rs1800972 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800972) (GG) - Relevance:0.4
Reduced risk for crohns disease; reduced risk for maternal hiv transmissionSNP: rs12248560 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12248560) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Cyp2c19*17 ultra fast metabolizer; drug metabolism effects; also 0.77x decreased breast cancer riskSNP: rs4444235 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4444235) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs12980275 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12980275) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
Lipid levels in hepatitis C treatmentSNP: rs2071746 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2071746) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
May be part of gs124SNP: rs1470579 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1470579) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
1.2x increased risk for type-2 diabetesSNP: rs4961 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4961) (GT) - Relevance:0.4
1.8x increased risk for high blood pressureSNP: rs3764650 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3764650) (TG) - Relevance:0.4
Late onset?SNP: rs5065 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5065) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
1.12x risk on diuretic; if hypertensive, better outcome when treated with calcium channel blocker than with diureticSNP: rs965513 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs965513) (AA) - Relevance:0.4
3.5x increased thyroid cancer riskSNP: rs12143842 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12143842) (CT) - Relevance:0.4
4.4ms qt interval duration increase on averageSNP: rs10246939 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10246939) (TC) - Relevance:0.4
Can taste bitterSNP: rs1495741 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1495741) (GG) - Relevance:0.4
Nat2 rapid metabolizer (predicted)SNP: rs3817198 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3817198) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Breast cancerSNP: rs6259 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6259) (GG) - Relevance:0.4
Best inverse correlation between tea-drinking, soy-consuming premenopausal women and risk of endometrial cancerSNP: rs4633 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4633) (CT) - Relevance:0.4
Higher risk for endometrial cancerSNP: rs13361189 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13361189) (TC) - Relevance:0.4
1.3x increased risk for crohn's diseaseSNP: rs613872 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs613872) (GT) - Relevance:0.4
~5 fold higher risk for fuchs\' dystrophy, a corneal disorderSNP: rs7341475 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7341475) (GG) - Relevance:0.4
1.58x increased schizophrenia risk for womenSNP: rs10883365 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10883365) (GA) - Relevance:0.4
1.2x increased risk for developing crohn's diseaseSNP: rs2494732 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2494732) (TT) - Relevance:0.4
Lower odds of psychosisSNP: rs4072037 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4072037) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Magnesium levelsSNP: rs2251746 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2251746) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Lowest ige levels

I will put it in several parts because it does not load it completely.

Carlos
18-01-20, 16:26
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

SNP: rs10505477 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10505477) (AG) - Relevance:0.4
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs17822931 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17822931) (CC) - Relevance:0.4
Wet earwax. normal body odour. normal colostrum.SNP: rs9642880 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9642880) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Slightly lower risk of bladder cancer.SNP: rs2420946 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2420946) (TC) - Relevance:0.3
1.20x risk for breast cancerSNP: rs2304256 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2304256) (CA) - Relevance:0.3
1.6x increased risk for sleSNP: rs2383207 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2383207) (AG) - Relevance:0.3
Increased risk for heart diseaseSNP: rs10838738 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10838738) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Body mass indexSNP: rs7294919 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7294919) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Average hippocampal volumeSNP: rs7529229 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7529229) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
2.5x lower risk for multiple myeloma versus ccSNP: rs7539542 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7539542) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
0.51x decreased breast cancer riskSNP: rs872071 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs872071) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
~1.5x increased risk for chronic lymphocytic leukemiaSNP: rs4977756 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4977756) (GA) - Relevance:0.3
1.2x higher risk for glioma developmentSNP: rs4553808 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4553808) (AG) - Relevance:0.3
Possibly lower risk for myasthenia gravisSNP: rs31489 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs31489) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
Increased risk for lung cancer and emphysema}}{{pmid auto|pmid=21622582|title=the tert-clptm1l locus for lung cancer predisposes to bronchial obstruction and emphysemaSNP: rs12807809 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12807809) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
SchizophreniaSNP: rs6060369 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6060369) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
0.88cm tallerSNP: rs3020314 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3020314) (CT) - Relevance:0.3
0.64x reduced lymphoma riskSNP: rs689 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs689) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Type 1 diabetes autoantibodiesSNP: rs9300039 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9300039) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
>1.5x risk for t2dSNP: rs6564851 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6564851) (TG) - Relevance:0.3
Higher beta-carotene levelsSNP: rs1049296 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1049296) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
C1 subtype of transferrin; common in clinvarSNP: rs356220 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs356220) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Increased risk of parkinson's diseaseSNP: rs3846662 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3846662) (AG) - Relevance:0.3
LDL cholesterolSNP: rs1800860 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800860) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
10% smaller kidneys as newbornsSNP: rs11218350 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11218350) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
0.83x risk for alzheimersSNP: rs28940580 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28940580) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
Can be ignored for nowSNP: rs9834312 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9834312) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
TallerSNP: rs4775041 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4775041) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Highest phosphatidylethanolamine valuesSNP: rs11249433 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11249433) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Breast cancerSNP: rs6687758 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6687758) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs63751449 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs63751449) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Lynch syndrome; hereditary nonpolyposis colorectal cancer-1SNP: rs63749811 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs63749811) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Lynch syndrome; hereditary nonpolyposis colorectal cancer (hnpcc1)SNP: rs3774426 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3774426) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
Better response to certain calcium channel blockersSNP: rs1837253 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1837253) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Reduced risk (0.73) for late-onset (adult) asthmaSNP: rs2546890 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2546890) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Higher risk of multiple sclerosisSNP: rs7794745 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7794745) (TT) - Relevance:0.3
Slightly increased risk for autismSNP: rs896854 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs896854) (TC) - Relevance:0.3
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs1805388 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1805388) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Reduced risk of multiple myelomaSNP: rs7495174 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7495174) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Blue/gray eyes more likelySNP: rs13333226 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13333226) (AA) - Relevance:0.3
Common but slightly higher risk for hypertensionSNP: rs8050894 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8050894) (CG) - Relevance:0.3
Average warfarin response (~5 mg/day)SNP: rs4464148 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4464148) (CC) - Relevance:0.3
1.35x increased risk for colorectal cancerSNP: rs8170 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8170) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Breast cancerSNP: rs440446 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs440446) (GG) - Relevance:0.3
Increased risk in men for biliary conditionsSNP: rs610604 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs610604) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
PsoriasisSNP: rs4917014 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4917014) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Systemic lupus erythematosusSNP: rs1800858 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800858) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
May predispose somehow to hirschsprung diseaseSNP: rs231362 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs231362) (AG) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs4355801 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4355801) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Bone mineral densitySNP: rs12608932 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12608932) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosisSNP: rs4925386 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4925386) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs1410996 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1410996) (GA) - Relevance:0.2
Age-related macular degenerationSNP: rs6435862 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6435862) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
2.8x higher risk of aggressive neuroblastomaSNP: rs17388568 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17388568) (GA) - Relevance:0.2
1.3x risk of type-1 diabetesSNP: rs7837688 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7837688) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
1.7x increased risk for prostate cancerSNP: rs1954787 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1954787) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
~10% more likely to respond to citalopramSNP: rs1012053 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1012053) (CA) - Relevance:0.2
0.625x reduced risk of bipolar disorde

Carlos
18-01-20, 16:28
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

SNP: rs602662 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs602662) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Lower vitamin b12 levelsSNP: rs2180439 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2180439) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Reduced risk of male pattern baldness.SNP: rs7014346 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7014346) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs7850258 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7850258) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly lower odds of developing primary hypothyroidism.SNP: rs3793784 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3793784) (GC) - Relevance:0.2
1.5x risk for armdSNP: rs12896399 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12896399) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Light hair colorSNP: rs11634397 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11634397) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs8042680 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8042680) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs4785763 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4785763) (AC) - Relevance:0.2
1.5x higher risk for melanomaSNP: rs1160312 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1160312) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Reduced risk of baldness.SNP: rs2250889 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2250889) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
1.69x higher risk for lung cancerSNP: rs509749 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs509749) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Common; slight increase in sle riskSNP: rs1061147 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1061147) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Reduced 0.34x risk of age related macular degeneration.SNP: rs6691170 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6691170) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs10210302 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10210302) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
1.8x riskSNP: rs13316193 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13316193) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Slight evidence indicating decreased oxtr expression, higher risk of depression, higher risk of autism spectrum disorder.}}{{pmid|22357335}} the association between oxytocin receptor gene polymorphism (oxtr) and trait empathy.{{pmid|17893705}} association between the oxytocin receptor (oxtr) gene and autism: relationship to vineland adaptive behavior scales and cognition.{{pmid|20346758}} genetics of human social behavior.{{pmid|22285934}} oxytocin and social affiliation in humans.{{pmid|23325323SNP: rs6812193 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6812193) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly higher risk of developing parkinson's disease for caucasiansSNP: rs10260404 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10260404) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
1.20x risk of developing alsSNP: rs1793004 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1793004) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
0.89x decreased risk for crohn's diseaseSNP: rs931127 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs931127) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
2.15x more likely positive lymph nodeSNP: rs7101429 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7101429) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Higher alzheimer's risk if apoe4 also presentSNP: rs974819 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs974819) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Coronary heart diseaseSNP: rs17580 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17580) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
A slightly reduced functionality form of alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiencySNP: rs1676486 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1676486) (AG) - Relevance:0.2
1.4x risk for ldhSNP: rs243021 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs243021) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs766432 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs766432) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Beta thalassemia/hemoglobin E diseaseSNP: rs2056202 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2056202) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Common but increased risk of autismSNP: rs1554483 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1554483) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
1.8x higher risk for obesity if in haplotypeSNP: rs10069690 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10069690) (CT) - Relevance:0.2
Breast cancerSNP: rs865686 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs865686) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Breast cancerSNP: rs1537415 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1537415) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
2x increased risk for periodontitisSNP: rs11169552 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11169552) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Colorectal cancerSNP: rs7172432 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7172432) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs2165241 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2165241) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
4.4x increased risk of exfoliation glaucomaSNP: rs4939883 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4939883) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Associated with higher hdl cholesterolSNP: rs12044852 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12044852) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
>1.24x riskSNP: rs1126497 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1126497) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
1.4x increased risk for breast cancerSNP: rs182549 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs182549) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Possibly lactose intolerantSNP: rs6445975 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6445975) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Disease risk associatedSNP: rs4864548 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4864548) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
1.8x higher risk for obesity if in haplotypeSNP: rs5335 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5335) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
>1.19x risk for hypertensionSNP: rs4730751 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4730751) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
For kidney donors, 2x more likely to result in allograft rejectionSNP: rs2383208 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2383208) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs11246226 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11246226) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Decreased risk of schizophrenia in limited studySNP: rs10784502 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10784502) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Better intracranial volume. 2 teaspoons increased cranial capacity and higher IQSNP: rs4344 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4344) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Faster responderSNP: rs4654748 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4654748) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
2.90 ng/ml lower vitamin b6 blood concentration|allele1=c|allele2=cSNP: rs2802292 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2802292) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Less likely to live to 100.SNP: rs7853989 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7853989) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Not blood group bSNP: rs4253208 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4253208) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Possible cockayne syndrome, type bSNP: rs11045585 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11045585) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
24% chance (lower than average) of docetaxel-induced leukopenia/neutropeniaSNP: rs1047781 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1047781) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
Abh blood group "secretor" status if japaneseSNP: rs7538876 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7538876) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
1.28x increased basal cell carcinoma risk.SNP: rs10735781 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10735781) (GC) - Relevance:0.2
1.11x riskSNP: rs3738919 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3738919) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
1.94x risk of developing rheumatoid arthritisSNP: rs2952768 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2952768) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly less drug dependence, decreased effectiveness of analgesicsSNP: rs3775948 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3775948) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly higher risk for goutSNP: rs1800462 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800462) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Incapable of detoxifyingSNP: rs793862 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs793862) (AG) - Relevance:0.2
Increased dyslexia riskSNP: rs17584499 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17584499) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs7127900 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7127900) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Prostate cancerSNP: rs11037909 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11037909) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
1.47x type ii diabetes riskSNP: rs1495377 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1495377) (GC) - Relevance:0.2
1.3x risk type-2 diabetesSNP: rs1545843 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1545843) (AA) - Relevance:0.2
1.4x increased risk for depression (for those under 55)SNP: rs6495446 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6495446) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
2.5x increased risk for chronic kidney diseaseSNP: rs3743930 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3743930) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Some reports of familial mediterranean feverSNP: rs1864163 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1864163) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Associated with higher hdl cholesterolSNP: rs4359 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4359) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Faster responderSNP: rs6700125 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6700125) (TC) - Relevance:0.2
1.2x increased risk for alsSNP: rs1514175 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1514175) (AG) - Relevance:0.2
Body mass indexSNP: rs4112788 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4112788) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
PsoriasisSNP: rs7349332 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7349332) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Straighter hair; commonSNP: rs6458307 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6458307) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
1.4x riskSNP: rs4870044 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4870044) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Bone mineral density (spine)SNP: rs748404 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs748404) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Slightly increased risk (1.25) for lung cancerSNP: rs2241423 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2241423) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Body mass indexSNP: rs12444979 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12444979) (CC) - Relevance:0.2
Body mass indexSNP: rs8055236 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8055236) (GG) - Relevance:0.2
Common, but 2.2x higher risk for heart diseaseSNP: rs10423928 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10423928) (TT) - Relevance:0.2
Two-hour glucose challengeSNP: rs5746059 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs5746059) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly higher fat massSNP: rs2205960 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2205960) (GT) - Relevance:0.1
Systemic lupus erythematosusSNP: rs28997576 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28997576) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Probably increased risk of breast cancer

Carlos
18-01-20, 16:29
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

SNP: rs10513789 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10513789) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Very common. normal risk of parkinson's disease.SNP: rs27388 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs27388) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of developing schizophreniaSNP: rs2327832 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2327832) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Celiac diseaseSNP: rs2073963 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2073963) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of baldnessSNP: rs326 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs326) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lower hdl cholesterolSNP: rs10958409 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10958409) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
1.37x increased aneurysm riskSNP: rs12340895 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12340895) (CG) - Relevance:0.1
Increased odds (2 fold?) of developing v617f-positive mpnSNP: rs10984447 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10984447) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
>1.17x increased risk for multiple sclerosisSNP: rs1800169 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800169) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Greater relative benefit of iloperidone to schizophrenicsSNP: rs7931342 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7931342) (TG) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs4585 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4585) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly poorer (0.75x) response to metformin in type 2 diabeticsSNP: rs11842874 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11842874) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Common but +17% risk osteoarthritis }}risk 1.17 [1.111.23], p = 2.1 108 {{pmid|21871595SNP: rs7183877 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7183877) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Blue eye color if part of blue eye color haplotypeSNP: rs17367504 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17367504) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Reduction in blood pressureSNP: rs2077119 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2077119) (TG) - Relevance:0.1
0.91x decreased risk for t2dSNP: rs4833103 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4833103) (AC) - Relevance:0.1
0.75x decreased risk for non-hodgkin's lymphomaSNP: rs12500426 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12500426) (AC) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs12653946 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12653946) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs10096633 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10096633) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
TriglyceridesSNP: rs7816345 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7816345) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
bigger breast size (normal in european)SNP: rs7027989 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7027989) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
1.26x increased myocardial infarction riskSNP: rs1412829 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1412829) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Glioma (high-grade)SNP: rs224136 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs224136) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs7091565 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7091565) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.26x risk of sarcoidosisSNP: rs4474514 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4474514) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
>3x increased testicular cancer risk for menSNP: rs1522305 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1522305) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly increased risk for schizophreniaSNP: rs4773144 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4773144) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Coronary heart diseaseSNP: rs4794067 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4794067) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
2.1x risk for aspirin induced asthma. but possibly lower risk of lupus and intractable graves\' disease.SNP: rs6690993 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6690993) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
0.7x decreased risk for alsSNP: rs3753841 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3753841) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Glaucoma (primary open-angle)SNP: rs2144300 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2144300) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
HDL cholesterolSNP: rs17672135 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17672135) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.3x riskSNP: rs10192566 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10192566) (CG) - Relevance:0.1
If diabetic, better response to rosiglitazoneSNP: rs2310173 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2310173) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Ulcerative colitisSNP: rs6718526 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6718526) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.9x risk of type-2 diabetesSNP: rs4276227 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4276227) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.5x riskSNP: rs6797312 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6797312) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
2x higher stroke risk in caucasian womenSNP: rs7679673 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7679673) (CA) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs7659604 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7659604) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
1.4x riskSNP: rs7439293 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7439293) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of coronary heart disease; better response to statinsSNP: rs10036748 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10036748) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Systemic lupus erythematosusSNP: rs2076295 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2076295) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Common/normal (higher levels of dsp expression)SNP: rs4712653 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4712653) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
2x increased risk for neuroblastomaSNP: rs9295536 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9295536) (CA) - Relevance:0.1
Possible increased risk for neuroblastomaSNP: rs7753394 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7753394) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.5x risk of crohn's diseaseSNP: rs13208776 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13208776) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Higher risk for generalized vitiligoSNP: rs7787082 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7787082) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
7x less likely to respond to certain antidepressantsSNP: rs10248420 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10248420) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
7x less likely to respond to certain antidepressantsSNP: rs705381 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs705381) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Less likely to gain weight if taking risperidoneSNP: rs4986782 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4986782) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Slow acetylator = higher risk of smoking-induced lung cancerSNP: rs13702 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13702) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
HDL Cholesterol - Triglycerides (HDLC-TG)SNP: rs495828 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs495828) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Venous thromboembolismSNP: rs6601764 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6601764) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.52x increased risk of developing crohn's diseaseSNP: rs12184413 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12184413) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
0.7x decreased risk for breast cancerSNP: rs10772420 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10772420) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Less intense perception of quinineSNP: rs3782179 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3782179) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
9x lower odds of testicular cancerSNP: rs10774625 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10774625) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Retinal vascular caliberSNP: rs767603 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs767603) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
0.63x reduced risk for intracranial aneurysmSNP: rs11622475 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11622475) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.5x risk of bipolar disorderSNP: rs4778241 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4778241) (AC) - Relevance:0.1
Usually brown eye colorSNP: rs8042374 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8042374) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Lung cancerSNP: rs12597511 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12597511) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly higher blood pressureSNP: rs16953002 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16953002) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly lower risk of melanoma in individuals with low bmiSNP: rs4792311 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4792311) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of prostate cancerSNP: rs11650354 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11650354) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
8x risk for allergic asthmaSNP: rs1058396 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1058396) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Jk(a+/b-) kidd blood group, barring other variantsSNP: rs58920878 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs58920878) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Slight (~2x) increase in colorectal cancer riskSNP: rs11881940 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11881940) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.9x risk of miSNP: rs16990018 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16990018) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Prp codon 171 asn - non-pathogenic variantSNP: rs9574 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9574) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Epcr h1 diplotype; reduced risk of vte?SNP: rs12469063 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12469063) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of developing restless legs syndromeSNP: rs7671167 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7671167) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic obstructive pulmonary diseaseSNP: rs17021918 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17021918) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs2188962 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2188962) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs1334710 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1334710) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Increased riskSNP: rs7757037 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7757037) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
0.68x decreased risk for bipolar disorderSNP: rs548234 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs548234) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Systemic lupus erythematosusSNP: rs9364554 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9364554) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs1635852 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1635852) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
HeightSNP: rs1334512 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1334512) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
0.37x decreased risk for severe malariaSNP: rs11556924 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11556924) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Coronary heart diseaseSNP: rs9298506 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9298506) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Higher risk aneurysmSNP: rs1412444 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1412444) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Coronary heart diseaseSNP: rs3731566 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3731566) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Higher bp if rs4961(t) carrierSNP: rs9525638 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9525638) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Weaker bonesSNP: rs9302752 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9302752) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
LeprosySNP: rs17445836 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17445836) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs885479 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs885479) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Darker skin colorSNP: rs8069176 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8069176) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
If 4 years old or younger, ~3x increased asthma risk if exposed to smokeSNP: rs3810291 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3810291) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Body mass indexSNP: rs17001266 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17001266) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.58x increased risk for schizophrenia in malesSNP: rs1321172 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1321172) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
>1.08x riskSNP: rs11162922 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11162922) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
2x riskSNP: rs6680578 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6680578) (TA) - Relevance:0.1
1.11x riskSNP: rs11164838 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11164838) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
>1.11x riskSNP: rs6700998 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6700998) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.2x increased risk of atopic dermatitis.SNP: rs4845618 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4845618) (GT) - Relevance:0.1
1.7x increased melanoma riskSNP: rs4537545 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4537545) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
C-reactive proteinSNP: rs28930069 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28930069) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Hypokalemic periodic paralysis riskSNP: rs2291834 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2291834) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Very slightly higher risk for myocardial infarctionSNP: rs9282671 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9282671) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Small chance of slightly increasing risk for a form of glaucomaSNP: rs2953145 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2953145) (GC) - Relevance:0.1
1.8x riskSNP: rs12487066 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12487066) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
>1.09x increased risk for multiple sclerosisSNP: rs9818870 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9818870) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Coronary heart diseaseSNP: rs6807362 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6807362) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Increased autism riskSNP: rs9851967 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9851967) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
0.88x risk of vitiligo in chineseSNP: rs28936383 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28936383) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Limb-girdle muscular dystrophy-dystroglycanopathySNP: rs6896702 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6896702) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of developing parkinson's diseaseSNP: rs17244841 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17244841) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
More responsive to statin treatmentSNP: rs2544677 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2544677) (GC) - Relevance:0.1
1.3x risk of type-1 diabetesSNP: rs17166496 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17166496) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.1x risk for type-1 diabetesSNP: rs6897876 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6897876) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Slight increase in testicular cancer risk for menSNP: rs13153971 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs13153971) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
1.58x higher risk of asthma.SNP: rs9394492 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9394492) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
<0.76x risk for restless legsSNP: rs9387522 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9387522) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of cocaine induced paranoia.SNP: rs11983225 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11983225) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
7x less likely to respond to certain antidepressantsSNP: rs445 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs445) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
White blood cell typesSNP: rs11767557 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11767557) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Alzheimer's disease (late onset)SNP: rs9333649 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9333649) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Associated with long qt syndromeSNP: rs6997709 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6997709) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
1.5x higher risk for hypertensionSNP: rs1800546 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1800546) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
0.35x reduced risk of hereditary fructose intolerance.SNP: rs4979462 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4979462) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Increased risk of developing primary biliary cirrhosisSNP: rs2283123 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2283123) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Decreased risk of schizophrenia in limited studySNP: rs61735045 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs61735045) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Likely to be a benign variantSNP: rs12416000 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12416000) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Homo sapiens gene (not neanderthal)SNP: rs911541 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs911541) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
1.48x increased risk of alzheimer'sSNP: rs7078160 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7078160) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Orofacial cleftsSNP: rs3819331 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3819331) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Lower risk of autismSNP: rs61749393 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs61749393) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Von willebrand disease, type 2bSNP: rs61749392 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs61749392) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Von willebrand disease, type 2bSNP: rs1805762 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1805762) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
>1.23x risk for hypertensionSNP: rs9739493 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9739493) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Higher risk for hypertensionSNP: rs10492519 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10492519) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
Slightly increased risk of developing prostate cancerSNP: rs28940871 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28940871) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
23andme = tay-sachs disease likely, but on other platforms this may be the normal formSNP: rs2398162 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2398162) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
1.3x riskSNP: rs34516635 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs34516635) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Less longevity for ashkenazi jewish women.SNP: rs1344484 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1344484) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
1.5x riskSNP: rs16947078 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs16947078) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
8x risk for allergic asthmaSNP: rs736839 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs736839) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Common, increased risk for sickle cell leg ulcersSNP: rs7250581 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7250581) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
1.4x riskSNP: rs11803731 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11803731) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Straighter hairSNP: rs673548 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs673548) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
Metabolic syndromeSNP: rs6544713 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6544713) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
LDL cholesterolSNP: rs10201872 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10201872) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs6050 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6050) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
FibrinogenSNP: rs4975616 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4975616) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lung cancerSNP: rs6905288 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6905288) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Waist-hip ratioSNP: rs881858 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs881858) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic kidney diseaseSNP: rs1456893 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1456893) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs11190140 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11190140) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs381815 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs381815) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Systolic blood pressureSNP: rs179247 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs179247) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Slight increase (1.4x) in risk for graves diseaseSNP: rs7193343 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7193343) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Atrial fibrillationSNP: rs7202877 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7202877) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Type 1 diabetesSNP: rs1424233 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1424233) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Obesity

Carlos
18-01-20, 16:32
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
This sample really has a great lot of relevance.
SNP: rs2290400 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2290400) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Type 1 diabetesSNP: rs11672691 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11672691) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
1.39x increased risk for pcsm in patients with prostate cancerSNP: rs3748816 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3748816) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Celiac diseaseSNP: rs7528419 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7528419) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Lipoprotein-associated phospholipase A2 activity and massSNP: rs7561317 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7561317) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
WeightSNP: rs2877716 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2877716) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Two-hour glucose challengeSNP: rs12504628 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12504628) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Pulmonary functionSNP: rs2853677 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2853677) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Lung adenocarcinomaSNP: rs4552569 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4552569) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Ankylosing spondylitisSNP: rs2206734 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2206734) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Body mass indexSNP: rs3093024 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3093024) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Rheumatoid arthritisSNP: rs301 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs301) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Metabolic syndrome (bivariate traits)SNP: rs1016343 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1016343) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs17095355 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17095355) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Biliary atresiaSNP: rs6499640 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6499640) (GA) - Relevance:0.1
WeightSNP: rs9891119 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9891119) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs6859 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6859) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Alzheimer's diseaseSNP: rs11581062 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11581062) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs3126085 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3126085) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Atopic dermatitisSNP: rs4085613 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4085613) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
PsoriasisSNP: rs7579899 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7579899) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Renal cell carcinomaSNP: rs1420101 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1420101) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Eosinophil countsSNP: rs2272127 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2272127) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Associated with herpes and schizophreniaSNP: rs347685 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs347685) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic kidney diseaseSNP: rs734553 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs734553) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Uric acid levelsSNP: rs874040 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs874040) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Rheumatoid arthritisSNP: rs1501908 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1501908) (GC) - Relevance:0.1
LDL cholesterolSNP: rs28936670 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28936670) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Reversed normalSNP: rs3093023 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3093023) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Rheumatoid arthritisSNP: rs4731702 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4731702) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
HDL cholesterolSNP: rs17582416 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs17582416) (TG) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs7395662 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7395662) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
HDL cholesterolSNP: rs1059513 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1059513) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
IgE levelsSNP: rs12368653 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12368653) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs4982731 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4982731) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Possible higher risk of childhood acute lymphoblastic leukemiaSNP: rs11636232 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11636232) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Darker eye colorSNP: rs7200786 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7200786) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs9938149 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9938149) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Central corneal thicknessSNP: rs7238078 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7238078) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs1077667 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1077667) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs8102137 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs8102137) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Bladder cancerSNP: rs6088813 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6088813) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
HeightSNP: rs1012068 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1012068) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic Hepatitis C infectionSNP: rs864537 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs864537) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Celiac disease and Rheumatoid arthritisSNP: rs1427407 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1427407) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
F-cell distributionSNP: rs9834970 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9834970) (TC) - Relevance:0.1
Bipolar disorderSNP: rs4635969 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4635969) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Testicular germ cell cancerSNP: rs3806932 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3806932) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Eosinophilic esophagitis (pediatric)SNP: rs11984041 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11984041) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
StrokeSNP: rs7805747 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7805747) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic kidney diseaseSNP: rs1015213 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1015213) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Glaucoma (primary open-angle)SNP: rs3793917 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3793917) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Age-related macular degenerationSNP: rs1021188 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1021188) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Bone mineral densitySNP: rs3894194 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3894194) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
AsthmaSNP: rs4648356 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4648356) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs4660293 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4660293) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
HDL cholesterolSNP: rs560426 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs560426) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Orofacial cleftsSNP: rs1335532 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1335532) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs2274910 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2274910) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs1011731 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1011731) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Waist-hip ratioSNP: rs9286879 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs9286879) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Crohn's diseaseSNP: rs2786098 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2786098) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
AsthmaSNP: rs28937591 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28937591) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Deafness expectedSNP: rs6732426 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6732426) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Curlier hairSNP: rs12478601 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs12478601) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Polycystic ovary syndromeSNP: rs7595037 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7595037) (CT) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs1007371 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1007371) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Rare genotype.SNP: rs6710518 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6710518) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
Bone mineral densitySNP: rs7578326 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7578326) (AG) - Relevance:0.1
Type 2 diabetesSNP: rs10934853 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs10934853) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancer

Carlos
18-01-20, 16:33
Kit: Medieval Villa Magna Italy (R63) (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

SNP: rs3796619 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs3796619) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Recombination rate (males)SNP: rs2082412 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2082412) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
PsoriasisSNP: rs2731672 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2731672) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Activated partial thromboplastin timeSNP: rs11755527 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11755527) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Type 1 diabetesSNP: rs1055144 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1055144) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Waist-hip ratioSNP: rs730497 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs730497) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Glycated hemoglobin levelsSNP: rs2282978 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2282978) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
HeightSNP: rs1454292 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1454292) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Curlier hairSNP: rs4410871 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4410871) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Multiple sclerosisSNP: rs1913517 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs1913517) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Systemic lupus erythematosusSNP: rs11228565 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11228565) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Prostate cancerSNP: rs614367 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs614367) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Breast cancerSNP: rs7396835 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs7396835) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Quantitative traitsSNP: rs4238010 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4238010) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Highly correlated risk factor for major depressive disorder.SNP: rs2650000 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2650000) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Metabolic traitsSNP: rs626277 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs626277) (AA) - Relevance:0.1
Chronic kidney diseaseSNP: rs4788084 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs4788084) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Type 1 diabetesSNP: rs28937908 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28937908) (TT) - Relevance:0.1
No callSNP: rs280519 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs280519) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
PsoriasisSNP: rs11538758 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs11538758) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
Prp codon p105 - non-pathogenic formSNP: rs28933385 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs28933385) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
Prion protein codon 200 (e) - non pathogenic variantSNP: rs6102059 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs6102059) (CC) - Relevance:0.1
LDL cholesterolSNP: rs2828520 (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/rs2828520) (GG) - Relevance:0.1
1.35x major depressive disorder risk

Salento
18-01-20, 17:34
“If you ain't first you're last” (Ricky Bobby) :grin:

... from the North Roman Warrior to the Minoan ...


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torzio
18-01-20, 17:36
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Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy


1355 AD


R52





mtDNA: T1a1Y-DNA: G-PF3239
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Illyrian / Dalmatian


1600 BC


I4331





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Central Roman
590 AD
SZ32



mtDNA: H74 ?
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/TrophyAward.png You are a top 99% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.

Salento
18-01-20, 18:20
You always get the glory

I only have

Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy


1355 AD


R52





mtDNA: T1a1Y-DNA: G-PF3239
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/TrophyGold.png You are the #2 top match to this sample!



My paternal grandfather was mtdna T1a1e



and this below


Illyrian / Dalmatian


1600 BC


I4331





mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: J2b2a
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/TrophyAward.png You are a top 99% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.


and lastly



Central Roman


590 AD


SZ32





mtDNA: H74 ?
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/TrophyAward.png You are a top 99% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.

congrats:)

There’s obviously a hierarchy difference between SNPs chain and Distance,
they don't necessarily go together.

some more:

https://i.imgur.com/QhnTDPD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J1esezG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gYARBda.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Hryppq6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Kftl5wq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8XG36QZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OFFnFta.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X4Q1uaL.jpg

torzio
18-01-20, 19:45
congrats:)

There’s obviously a hierarchy difference between SNPs chain and Distance,
they don't necessarily go together.

some more:

https://i.imgur.com/QhnTDPD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J1esezG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gYARBda.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Hryppq6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Kftl5wq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8XG36QZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OFFnFta.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X4Q1uaL.jpg


what I presented is all I have for me on MTA

Salento
18-01-20, 20:32
It’s important to interpret some of the SNPs chains.

in my case:

it’s possible that the North Roman Warrior carries some of my Southern European DNA, and that I carry some in common Ancient DNA with a Minoan.

That doesn’t make me a Gaul or a Minoan,

I just have an old genetic relation, and that’s it :)

Salento
19-01-20, 04:39
Edit ...
deep dive map

https://i.imgur.com/0cQ0t07.jpg




1. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 10.39 - R1548 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

2. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 10.88 - R1290 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

3. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 11.19 - R114 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

4. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 11.31 - R49 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

5. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.62 - SZ36 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

6. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 11.81 - R56 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 11.97 - SZ40 - ?
Top
97
% match vs all users

8. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 11.97 - R58 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

9. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 12.03 - R107 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

10. Hellenic Roman Casale del Dolce (145 AD) ..... 12.04 - R123 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

11. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 12.08 - R136-
Top
97
% match vs all users

12. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.3 - R60 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

13. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 12.42 - R117 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

14. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 12.48 - CL121 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

15. Hellenic Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 12.53 - R73 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

16. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 12.57 - SZ19 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

17. Torna Alta Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 12.69 - I3808 -
Top
99
% match vs all users

18. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 12.87 - R65 -
Top
97
% match vs all users

19. Imperial Rome Centocelle (190 AD) ..... 13.01 - R50 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

20. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 13.12- R30 -
Top
98
% match vs all users

Carlos
19-01-20, 14:28
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pR4h_hyQbek/XiRH47gjBmI/AAAAAAAACVM/_ry1OcmK9_s9R4sGdUKDHNeVh4KrnCPiACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BronzeAgeSpainCogotasI12208.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m50vz-VPRCA/XiRH_QUCz4I/AAAAAAAACVQ/uQCsFIVJg_8rzaJfzxEV-qcO1NrhUUt5ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IlergetesTribeCatalanI3336.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9fAMWcsi1gA/XiRIGdKZdrI/AAAAAAAACVU/bWt2On-8o_ESFRKk6armG_91FZyy4LSvgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IberianSettlementCataloniaSpainI3496.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aO2UbjM7-Mw/XiRILJVndcI/AAAAAAAACVc/7Uhrre9lv70BnViS0O78hJ4qT6P9m-SzgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/HighStatusMaleHaunstettenPOST-44.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1lnj4JUXvqM/XiRISV2X-uI/AAAAAAAACVk/U2Ljc96NjHwE1DGqjfzegSC5bbXJ64x-wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NorthAlpineBronzeAgeAITI-120.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pTq44f1WBQQ/XiRIW_628gI/AAAAAAAACVs/cC60SYEj2W8Fl9fUm_U4LYPapZOJ6wV5ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/NeolithicIrelandBallythany.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OB85ex8-AoY/XiRIaG9v6oI/AAAAAAAACVw/b9ElxBVx7BknaBidYLKI5UdpiW5aLwLcACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ScythianSourthernMoldobascy197b.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uok5gpRT-H8/XiRIkvyVONI/AAAAAAAACV8/HU769zEBrFAUKgxxflOsTLfRagWYQ2TKACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ImperialMausoleoAugustoR33.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IbVts3g249A/XiRIpTmHhzI/AAAAAAAACWE/wYFEoZKmOwY5zFleoWUymrCTFBDTcxPPgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/LateRomanMixCryptaBalbiR105.JPEG

Duarte
19-01-20, 15:30
I have excepcional and unique relationship with two individuals. I do not had see this. Cool.

https://i.imgur.com/fYh7xj4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/31w7r7j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OtuXbwS.jpg

Carlos
19-01-20, 17:03
Duarte I also have Illercavones. Who was going to tell me when the first time and the only one I was and the state in Lleida I was there on the stage of the Principal Theater of Lleida at the premiere of a movie where I had a small role, the truth is that via the people much prettier than layetanos. Cogotas already knew it and I knew it because I said long ago that a brother of my maternal grandfather carved some bulls in wood and they are nailed to Guisando's bulls. The iberian settlemen as the town where I live already gives me an attack, I have asked but they have not answered me yet.

HYGILI4K
19-01-20, 17:12
I have excepcional and unique relationship with two individuals. I do not had see this. Cool.


I have with one! NOICE! :cool-v:

https://imgur.com/a/OPaSaERhttps://imgur.com/a/OPaSaERhttps://i.imgur.com/WKB24j6.png

Joey37
19-01-20, 18:25
I am #1 match to Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age in England!

Carlos
19-01-20, 19:28
I am #1 match to Trumpington Meadows Bronze Age in England!

The old kits that I created from Iberia de El Argar, La loma del puerco, Cogotas, ilergetes, e.t.c selected Trumpington or what it means that Trumpington would get them.

Angela
19-01-20, 19:30
Nice, guys. :)

Only two show up and I don't completely understand either one, but I'll give it my best shot.


https://i.imgur.com/uE5dA6D.png

https://i.imgur.com/HZ4qeis.png
I quite understand that in terms of modern populations, both of these ancient samples plot somewhere near Toscana. The question is "why"?

We don't really know anything about the Crete Armenoi sample other than to say it's not from the Minoan period but rather later, and she's an outlier as far as Minoans are concerned.

As for Scythian Moldova, why a "Tuscan" like individual is a member of an Iron Age pastoral group with origins on the steppes I don't know. Perhaps it's a similar situation to that in Iron Age Thrace, where there were "Tuscan like", broadly speaking, individuals, and also in late Empire/Early Medieval Antiquity, along with some more northwestern leaning Tuscans.

Is it that there were still populations much like those on the northern part of the Italian peninsula spread all over Central Europe, the Balkans, and even into Moldova?

From the paper...

" Between 700 and 300 BCE, the Scythians, representing mobile pastoral nomads of a new militaristic type (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-1)), dominated the Pontic-Kazakh steppe, occupying an area from the Altai to the Carpathian Mountains. Their decline began around 300 BCE and was caused by intensifying hostile relations with the Macedonians in the West and the invasion of the Sarmatians from the East. The Sarmatians and the Scythians are thought to have coexisted for a few centuries, but eventually, the former group prevailed (2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-2)), resulting in the Scythian downfall. The Sarmatians are believed to comprise a number of groups of similar nomadic background (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-8)), and they became the politically most influential force within the eastern fringes of the Roman Empire at the time. Their decline (~400 CE) was associated with the attack of the Goths and the subsequent invasion of the Huns (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-8))."

"The Scythians reported in this study, from the core Scythian territory in the North Pontic steppe (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-12)), showed high intragroup diversity. In the PCA, they are positioned as four visually distinct groups compared to the gradient of present-day populations (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#F1)): (i) A group of three individuals (scy009, scy010, and scy303) showed genetic affinity to north European populations, hereafter referred to as a north European (NE) cluster. (ii) A group of four individuals (scy192, scy197, scy300, and scy305) showed genetic similarities to southern European populations, hereafter referred to as a south European (SE) cluster. (iii) A group of three individuals (scy006, scy011, and scy193) located between the genetic variation of Mordovians and populations of the North Caucasus, hereafter referred to as a steppe cluster (SC). In addition, one Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individual (kzb004), the most recent Cimmerian (cim357), and all Sarmatians fell within this cluster."

"Scythians belonging to the SE cluster were closer to Hungarian Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals including Vatya and Maros. " This doesn't at all surprise me. Other studies have shown the tie between Italians (and I) and the Hungarian Bronze Age and Maros as well.

"Some of the Scythians of the western Pontic-Caspian steppe lacked the SA and the East Eurasian components altogether and instead were more similar to a Montenegro Iron Age individual (3 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457#ref-3)), possibly indicating assimilation of the earlier local groups by the Scythians. "

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457

Twilight
19-01-20, 19:40
Wouldnt it be cool if the Moderators made a map; based on MyTrueAncestry samples?
It would be awesome to compare how accurate Tacitus and Livy was. : D
Here is my Admixture.
28% Celt

72% Germanic

22.5% Danish Viking
14.5% Frankish
8.5% Suebi
8.5% Saxon
12.5% Viking (6.5% Norseman, 6% Swedes)
5.5% East Germanic (2% Visigoth, 2% Vandal, 1.5% Ostrogoth)

Carlos
19-01-20, 22:13
Now that I am looking for my father in a simile like a stolen child and I will not stop until I get it. I know that everything is autosomal but it must also be there somewhere. So I had already noticed this sample and I will create the kit.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OB85ex8-AoY/XiRIaG9v6oI/AAAAAAAACVw/b9ElxBVx7BknaBidYLKI5UdpiW5aLwLcACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ScythianSourthernMoldobascy197b.jpeg

I have seen something and it has several Deep Dive from Egypt and Cluana Ancona and more... I have to go to the blog all the files and then publish them here, web of work.

italouruguayan
20-01-20, 01:15
Mine....


Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD
I12647
mtDNA: H1ak1
You are a top 96% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 33)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 17.72 cM
Largest segment=158 SNPs / 7.59 cM

Your raw DNA is 96% closer than other matching users

Iberian Cordoba Caliphate
1050 AD
I7498
mtDNA: H3a1Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a
You are a top 98% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 34)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.24 cM
Largest segment=287 SNPs / 6.06 cM

Your raw DNA is 98% closer than other matching users


Ostrogoth Mix
495 AD
AEH_1
mtDNA: H5 ?
You are a top 97% match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 8)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.9 cM
Largest segment=376 SNPs / 2.81 cM

Your raw DNA is 97% closer than other matching users

Carlos
20-01-20, 03:21
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uok5gpRT-H8/XiRIkvyVONI/AAAAAAAACV8/HU769zEBrFAUKgxxflOsTLfRagWYQ2TKACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ImperialMausoleoAugustoR33.jpg

1. Spanish_Cataluna (7.155)
2. Spanish_Murcia (7.269)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.528)
4. Spanish_Valencia (7.691)
5. Portuguese (8.220)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (8.433)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (8.449)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.936)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iQ7sTyWpCtc/XiT9MunKXgI/AAAAAAAACWY/6YQe0wsW-XY372-o8dEX1fuNYkM2Klw_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/imperialmausoleo.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IbVts3g249A/XiRIpTmHhzI/AAAAAAAACWE/wYFEoZKmOwY5zFleoWUymrCTFBDTcxPPgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/LateRomanMixCryptaBalbiR105.JPEG

1. Spanish_Aragon (5.017)
2. Spanish_Valencia (6.046)
3. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.695)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (7.904)
5. Southwest_French (8.076)
6. Spanish_Cantabria (8.328)
7. Spanish_Murcia (8.987)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (9.225)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pGqbaL6-bLg/XiT9qeizgVI/AAAAAAAACWk/LyEqvntDHk0q2IdJNeYdZB41VzcF6zlsQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Image%2B1.png

These two men are classified in MTA as Roman culture.


These samples of who could be treated?

Salento
20-01-20, 06:13
... updates ...

https://i.imgur.com/JCpWPj2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lGTBr86.jpg

Edit: ‘cause of dynamic hierarchy

https://i.imgur.com/v0PfQUW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tdajOOn.jpg

Duarte
20-01-20, 12:54
Good morning to all buddies with the wishes of a nice and productive week.

@Carlos @HYGILI4K. Very cool, guys.

Duarte I also have Illercavones. Who was going to tell me when the first time and the only one I was and the state in Lleida I was there on the stage of the Principal Theater of Lleida at the premiere of a movie where I had a small role, the truth is that via the people much prettier than layetanos. Cogotas already knew it and I knew it because I said long ago that a brother of my maternal grandfather carved some bulls in wood and they are nailed to Guisando's bulls. The iberian settlemen as the town where I live already gives me an attack, I have asked but they have not answered me yet.


I have with one! NOICE! :cool-v:

https://imgur.com/a/OPaSaERhttps://imgur.com/a/OPaSaERhttps://i.imgur.com/WKB24j6.png

My two special relashionships: A Celt and an Iberian. Am I a Cetiberian? Coincidence or not, only Carlos' oracle can answer. LOL. Morning, Carlos :)

https://i.imgur.com/9nGFEah.png
https://i.imgur.com/H8SDkYV.png

Carlos
20-01-20, 14:42
^^
Yes, we are Celtiberians; although people don't want to recognize it lol
Look at the Celtiberian helmets they found in Aragon, my paternal grandmother was Cortés who is an Aragonese surname that emigrates to Extremadura and Andalusia.

https://est.zetaestaticos.com/aragon/img/noticias/1/400/1400588_1.jpg

(https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)

Carlos
20-01-20, 23:27
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mDzM3v7bG7Q/XiXMlZHkXpI/AAAAAAAACW0/Z5ZZviCTBbw-362evwZkOT89MvrdGe8QQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/logotipo.jpg

My match with Scy

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RcdpnmGK45Q/XiXNLwfOXiI/AAAAAAAACXg/7dNQ9LUJEyYllvXfQn6TeKppaevEmwxUQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/TodosMisEscitas.jpeg

Match of the scy197b kit with Egypt
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-N52wdelQbog/XiXPAaVKJmI/AAAAAAAACYs/eSEPRCYO61oJtRleNUvF5QA8W6YDDGIAACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EgiptoPtolemaic.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYj3tWtnhIk/XiXSTa0ekRI/AAAAAAAACcY/IE5G_KgA2P8b7sN7QOZXvKrHypiumZN1wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Egiptoultimoperiro.jpeg

My comparation with scy197b.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VpDYyMyWvpk/XiXRORxQHyI/AAAAAAAACbo/KD-M195YZlgAOaHPoFbC65wmAAGotPAVgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Comparacionmikitconscy197b.jpeg

Mi comparation imputes with scy197b
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TnozdyH2k18/XiXRTbbbeKI/AAAAAAAACbw/iQUo04Xd9DkuPLidPrrcwusNgzBykzJxgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/comparacionMyImputedwhithscy197b.jpeg

Perhaps in me and Egypt, philistina or ancient Greece is almost erased footprint, but in this sample of exceptional match with me it was still preserved.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sK2LijcSpB4/XiXOE_EAspI/AAAAAAAACYE/WWEOXhu1OxIZXZLFdInVoEiVqEp8bO8HQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/mapeEuropetimelapse.jpeg


Comparing the map above and the result of my Juan graph, I see some consistency with the results of scy197b.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RbJv3DGuZk4/Xhr1jmqDncI/AAAAAAAACKs/PrcCPKoD2R0ZonafFVlP_PSB0eZQRgB3ACLcBGAsYHQ/s640/MDSplot.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DxvECvL4lo0/XiYXV-i-TSI/AAAAAAAACck/sFiDX25ql5UbhwdU8QYOyTQZHZ1ivk97wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CycladesSerbia.jpeg

Deep Dive scy197b
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mqHqgMu96YE/XiYdbqV3WfI/AAAAAAAACcw/c-Dmjm3AsfEJLLGGlsWHXOQvjInFXG-RQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/DeepDiveEuropa.jpeg

My Deep Dive

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eawf63zPTY0/XiYeVrspkQI/AAAAAAAACc8/j5x5wli1iYIIRIS8s9rqXSMpHWmQbedTwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/deepdiveEnero2020.jpeg

Duarte
21-01-20, 11:31
^^
Yes, we are Celtiberians; although people don't want to recognize it lol
Look at the Celtiberian helmets they found in Aragon, my paternal grandmother was Cortés who is an Aragonese surname that emigrates to Extremadura and Andalusia.

https://est.zetaestaticos.com/aragon/img/noticias/1/400/1400588_1.jpg

(https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)




That's it Carlos. Beautiful and very well designed helmets. A people who knew how to defend themselves when necessary. The aracle of truth never lies. If he said we are cetiiberian, then it is because we are.

torzio
21-01-20, 17:13
I still only get

Your Top 10 Archaeogenetic matches by Era...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you, up to 10 samples per era) Neolithic Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/NeolithicPattern.jpg
32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 98% match vs all users
Early Bronze Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/ScandiaBronze.jpg
33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.39 - I4332 -
Top 95% match vs all users

38. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 15.0 - I4331 -
Top 93% match vs all users

93. - upgrade to Zeus ..... 19.25 - OTTM_151ind2 -
Top 94% match vs all users

[h=3]Late Bronze Age
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/GerBronze.jpg
1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users

52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all users





can someone tell me about this sample

- OTTM_151ind2 -

torzio
21-01-20, 17:22
what my father gets .................it is his only ancient match

Scythian Moldova

scy301 (300 BC)

mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3

Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2


Deep Dive Match! 55% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 19.344
Sample Match! 52% closer than others users

Carlos
21-01-20, 21:11
Carlos Oracle (Deep Studies)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ImrJYP7mTPE/XiXMw2XirFI/AAAAAAAACW8/SFwXalLNZgELMTInyRVmIo5f3gpAU4xvgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ancientsampleBreakdown.jpeg

Scy197b
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v2jmR_AsuK4/XiXM4A7kKeI/AAAAAAAACXI/AgIeeICDeOUiaZGQteqRIhv1-VyaOseNACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/mtDNAsmmaryforJ.JPEG

Scy187b

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gnviYDYIPkU/XiXM1Dp91TI/AAAAAAAACXA/XKLPlcXieA0RXqLeVhP_PnvTpxq6wxc5ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/YdnaSummaryforE.JPEG

Me

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OuktTuLU4pw/XidLgay4x-I/AAAAAAAACdk/p2Xbsm3MgJIodS1xh_2WmPDdPgHMfhevgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Tirol.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EbFJs3SJ0M0/XidLbhbW12I/AAAAAAAACdg/2ASqL0YfvuMyqSIZsOC_wKzmCkP-O40DgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Multivariatestatisticssection.jpeg

I think I'm going to create the Medieval Tyrolian SZ18 kit. (I know and I have in mind that there were Ladinos in Bolzano but the problem is that my ear only tolerates going east in derived Latin : Spanish, Italian and French and that fact is very significant for myself in my study of my father's search.)




I will wait imagine that they are overflowed

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kDVNCF4uBrI/XidWCNvDg9I/AAAAAAAACdw/oTqE1Q5SaGAmy0RVpqOK-JyB8vE0itczgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/kitimposiblecrearkit.jpeg

torzio
25-01-20, 17:43
Carlos Oracle (Deep Studies)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ImrJYP7mTPE/XiXMw2XirFI/AAAAAAAACW8/SFwXalLNZgELMTInyRVmIo5f3gpAU4xvgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ancientsampleBreakdown.jpeg

Scy197b
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v2jmR_AsuK4/XiXM4A7kKeI/AAAAAAAACXI/AgIeeICDeOUiaZGQteqRIhv1-VyaOseNACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/mtDNAsmmaryforJ.JPEG

Scy187b

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gnviYDYIPkU/XiXM1Dp91TI/AAAAAAAACXA/XKLPlcXieA0RXqLeVhP_PnvTpxq6wxc5ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/YdnaSummaryforE.JPEG

Me

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OuktTuLU4pw/XidLgay4x-I/AAAAAAAACdk/p2Xbsm3MgJIodS1xh_2WmPDdPgHMfhevgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Tirol.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EbFJs3SJ0M0/XidLbhbW12I/AAAAAAAACdg/2ASqL0YfvuMyqSIZsOC_wKzmCkP-O40DgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Multivariatestatisticssection.jpeg

I think I'm going to create the Medieval Tyrolian SZ18 kit. (I know and I have in mind that there were Ladinos in Bolzano but the problem is that my ear only tolerates going east in derived Latin : Spanish, Italian and French and that fact is very significant for myself in my study of my father's search.)




I will wait imagine that they are overflowed

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kDVNCF4uBrI/XidWCNvDg9I/AAAAAAAACdw/oTqE1Q5SaGAmy0RVpqOK-JyB8vE0itczgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/kitimposiblecrearkit.jpeg


SZ18 is
SZ18:
mtDNA: H13a1a2
Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b2(CTS2817)

Do they really mark this sample as Ladini from the alps ?



and I would like to see what scy197b is

as I only found

scy197:
mtDNA: U5a1a1
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2


others found with scy197 are

scy300:
mtDNA: H5b

scy301:
mtDNA: U5b2a3
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2

scy303:
mtDNA: U5a1a2b

scy305:
mtDNA: U5a2b
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2

scy311:
mtDNA: T2b

torzio
25-01-20, 17:54
The new ............Deep Dive Breakdown for me is

Genetic Closeness = Gallo-Roman

Total SNP = Gallo-Roman

Longest SNP = Illyrian


.............................................

I have no links with the new Trojans or Minoans added or any other Anatolians ( inc. Byzantines )

torzio
25-01-20, 18:08
Oldest samples that match myself

32. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
Top 98% match vs all users
I3499
mtDNA: T2e
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a2




33. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 14.39 - I4332 -
Top 95% match vs all user
I4332
mtDNA: W3a1



38. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 15.0 - I4331 -
Top 93% match vs all users
I4331
mtDNA: I1a1
Y-DNA: J2b2a





93. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 19.25 - OTTM_151ind2 -
Top 94% match vs
OTTM_151ind2
mtDNA: X2b+226




1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
Top 99% match vs all users
R1
mtDNA: U5a2b




4. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 8.937 - I3313 -
Top 98% match vs all users
I3313
mtDNA: HV0e





52. Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea (900 BC) ..... 15.89 - MJ12 -
Top 97% match vs all use
MJ-12:
mtDNA: H35



.................................................. ....

my father data has same as above plus

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/135962v1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/135962v1.full.pdf

E09538=UNTA58_68Sk1
mtDNA: J1c
Y-DNA: G2a2a1a2a1a



UNTA58_147, UNTA58_153, UNTA85_1412, Straubing(Early Bronze Age), 2031–1776 calBC


https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2019/10/09/science.aax6219
DOI: 10.1126/science.aax6219


https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/Mittnik_Science_2019.pdf

Carlos
25-01-20, 21:56
SZ18 is
SZ18:
mtDNA: H13a1a2
Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b2(CTS2817)

Do they really mark this sample as Ladini from the alps ?



and I would like to see what scy197b is

as I only found

scy197:
mtDNA: U5a1a1
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2


others found with scy197 are

scy300:
mtDNA: H5b

scy301:
mtDNA: U5b2a3
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2

scy303:
mtDNA: U5a1a2b

scy305:
mtDNA: U5a2b
Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2

scy311:
mtDNA: T2b

He still doesn't let me create the SZ18 kit. The scy197b is a Scythian from Moldova











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Fig. 1 Radiocarbon ages and geographical locations of the ancient samples used in this study.Figure panels presented counterclockwise: (A) Bar plot visualizing approximate timeline of presented and previously published individuals. (B) Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses. (C) Principal component analysis (PCA) plot visualizing 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals presented in this study and in published ancient individuals (table S5) in relation to modern reference panel from the Human Origins data set (41 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-41)).


RESULTSWe produced genome-wide sequence data with genome coverage between 0.01× and 2.9× per individual for 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals from the Pontic-Caspian steppe from four chronologically sequential cultural groups, which comprise Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals (n = 13), Cimmerians (n = 3), Scythians (n = 14), and Sarmatians (n = 5), with radiocarbon dates between ca. 1900 BCE and 400 CE (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B; tables S1 to S3; and fig. S1, A and B). All DNA libraries displayed damage patterns typical of ancient DNA (fig. S2) (14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-14)). To ensure data integrity, we calculated mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)–based contamination levels using distribution of private polymorphisms in mtDNA (15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-15)) and a Bayesian likelihood method (16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-16)). The former yielded point estimates of contamination between 0 and 10% [95% confidence intervals (CIs) between 0 and 17%], and the latter method revealed that all individuals carried sequences with >89% probability of being authentic (table S4). Thus, we included all sequenced individuals in the downstream analyses.
Late Bronze Age (LBA) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Europeans or West Eurasians (17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-17)) including H, J1, K1, T2, U2, U4, and U5 (table S3). In contrast, the Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) additionally carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Central Asia and the Far East (A, C, D, and M) (table S3) (11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-11), 18 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-18)). The absence of East Asian mitochondrial lineages in the more eastern and older Srubnaya-Alakulskaya population suggests that the appearance of East Asian haplogroups in the steppe populations might be associated with the Iron Age nomads, starting with the Cimmerians. The Y chromosome haplogroup variation in 17 of 18 males was limited to two major haplogroup lineages within the macrohaplogroup “R” (table S3). The Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried the Y haplogroup R1a, which showed a major expansion during the Bronze Age (19 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-19)). It has previously been found in Bronze Age individuals from the Krasnoyarsk Kurgan in Siberia (20 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-20)). The Iron Age nomads mostly carried the R1b Y haplogroup, which is characteristic of the Yamnaya of the Russian steppe (4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). An exception was a Cimmerian individual (cim358) who carried the Q1* lineage associated with the east (table S3).
Genetic relationships between Eurasian steppe nomads and present-day populationsPCA on the autosomal genomic data (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1) and table S5) revealed the following: (i) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals exhibited genetic affinity to northern and northeastern present-day Europeans (fig. S3), and these results were also consistent with outgroup f3 statistics (table S6 and fig. S4A). (ii) The Cimmerian individuals, representing the time period of transition from Bronze to Iron Age, were not homogeneous regarding their genetic similarities to present-day populations according to the PCA. F3 statistics confirmed the heterogeneity of these individuals in comparison with present-day populations (table S6 and figs. S3 and S4C). (iii) The Scythians reported in this study, from the core Scythian territory in the North Pontic steppe (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)), showed high intragroup diversity. In the PCA, they are positioned as four visually distinct groups compared to the gradient of present-day populations (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1)): (i) A group of three individuals (scy009, scy010, and scy303) showed genetic affinity to north European populations, hereafter referred to as a north European (NE) cluster. (ii) A group of four individuals (scy192, scy197, scy300, and scy305) showed genetic similarities to southern European populations, hereafter referred to as a south European (SE) cluster. (iii) A group of three individuals (scy006, scy011, and scy193) located between the genetic variation of Mordovians and populations of the North Caucasus, hereafter referred to as a steppe cluster (SC). In addition, one Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individual (kzb004), the most recent Cimmerian (cim357), and all Sarmatians fell within this cluster. In contrast to the Scythians, and despite being from opposite ends of the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the five Sarmatians grouped close together in this cluster. (iv) A group of three Scythians (scy301, scy304, and scy311) formed a discrete group
















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RESEARCH ARTICLEANTHROPOLOGY
Ancient genomes suggest the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppe as the source of western Iron Age nomads


[*=left]Maja Krzewińska1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-1),* (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#f n-1),† (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#c orresp-1),
[*=left]Gülşah Merve Kılınç1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-1),* (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#f n-1),† (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#c orresp-1),
[*=left]Anna Juras2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Dilek Koptekin3 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-3),
[*=left]Maciej Chyleński4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-4),
[*=left]Alexey G. Nikitin5 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-5),
[*=left]Nikolai Shcherbakov6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),
[*=left]Iia Shuteleva6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),7 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-7),
[*=left]Tatiana Leonova6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),
[*=left]Liudmila Kraeva8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-8),
[*=left]Flarit A. Sungatov9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-9),
[*=left]Alfija N. Sultanova9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-9),
[*=left]Inna Potekhina10 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-10),
[*=left]Sylwia Łukasik2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Marta Krenz-Niedbała2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Love Dalén11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-11),
[*=left]Vitaly Sinika12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-12),13 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-13),
[*=left]Mattias Jakobsson14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-14),15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-15),16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-16),
[*=left]Jan Storå17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-17) and
[*=left]Anders Götherström1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-1),† (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#c orresp-1)






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AbstractFor millennia, the Pontic-Caspian steppe was a connector between the Eurasian steppe and Europe. In this scene, multidirectional and sequential movements of different populations may have occurred, including those of the Eurasian steppe nomads. We sequenced 35 genomes (low to medium coverage) of Bronze Age individuals (Srubnaya-Alakulskaya) and Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) that represent four distinct cultural entities corresponding to the chronological sequence of cultural complexes in the region. Our results suggest that, despite genetic links among these peoples, no group can be considered a direct ancestor of the subsequent group. The nomadic populations were heterogeneous and carried genetic affinities with populations from several other regions including the Far East and the southern Urals. We found evidence of a stable shared genetic signature, making the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppe a likely source of western nomadic groups.

INTRODUCTIONThe Pontic-Caspian steppe (PCS), stretching from the southern Urals to the western North Pontic lands, was the stage of various demographic changes in the past, and several of those remain unknown. During the Bronze and Iron Age, the area was inhabited by a succession of nomadic populations that had significant impact on the cultural development of both Asia and Europe (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1), 2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-2)). Possibly the best known of these groups is the Yamnaya. Recent genomic studies have revealed cross-continental Early Bronze Age migrations (~3000 BCE) of the nomadic people associated with the Yamnaya horizon (3 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-3), 4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). The migration introduced the Caucasus genetic component to the genetic landscape of Europe. In Central Europe, Yamnaya ancestry first appeared among people from the Corded Ware complex and has since been found in many subsequent ancient and present-day populations. However, the Pontic-Caspian steppe was critical not only for Early Bronze Age Yamnaya migrations but also because of succeeding movements and population transformations that took place in the developed classical stage of the Late Bronze and Iron Ages between 1800 BCE and 400 CE. This period covered the development of the Srubnaya and Alakulskaya Cultures (~1800–1200 BCE), associated with small settlement sites distributed from the Urals to the Dnieper valley (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1)). From around 1000 BCE, pre-Scythian nomadic populations started to appear in the western Pontic-Caspian steppe including the Cimmerians known from historical sources (5 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-5)). Despite regional variation and local peculiarities, the Cimmerians were not associated with any uniform type of archaeological material culture (6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-6)). In the seventh century BCE, they were succeeded by the Scythians, who plausibly pushed the Cimmerians into Asia Minor (7 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-7)). Between 700 and 300 BCE, the Scythians, representing mobile pastoral nomads of a new militaristic type (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1)), dominated the Pontic-Kazakh steppe, occupying an area from the Altai to the Carpathian Mountains. Their decline began around 300 BCE and was caused by intensifying hostile relations with the Macedonians in the West and the invasion of the Sarmatians from the East. The Sarmatians and the Scythians are thought to have coexisted for a few centuries, but eventually, the former group prevailed (2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-2)), resulting in the Scythian downfall. The Sarmatians are believed to comprise a number of groups of similar nomadic background (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-8)), and they became the politically most influential force within the eastern fringes of the Roman Empire at the time. Their decline (~400 CE) was associated with the attack of the Goths and the subsequent invasion of the Huns (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-8)).
The genomic structure of the Bronze and Iron Age (1800 BCE–400 CE) populations in the Pontic-Caspian steppe has not been fully resolved. While earlier genomic studies have suggested close links between the Srubnaya and the central European Late Neolithic and Bronze Age populations (9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-9)), our knowledge of the genetic origins of the Cimmerians is limited. Genetic analyses of maternal lineages of Scythians suggest a mixed origin and an east-west admixture gradient across the Eurasian steppe (10 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-10)–12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). The genomics of two early Scythian Aldy-Bel individuals (13 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-13)) showed genetic affinities to eastern populations of Central Asia (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). However, population interactions and the origin of Scythians of the Pontic-Caspian steppe remain poorly understood. Similarly, little is known about the origins and genetic affinities of the Sarmatians. Genomic studies suggest that the latter group may have been genetically similar to the eastern Yamnaya and Poltavka Bronze Age groups (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). To investigate the demographic dynamics in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, we generated and analyzed genomes of the Late Bronze and Iron Age individuals from the region (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B).
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Fig. 1 Radiocarbon ages and geographical locations of the ancient samples used in this study.Figure panels presented counterclockwise: (A) Bar plot visualizing approximate timeline of presented and previously published individuals. (B) Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses. (C) Principal component analysis (PCA) plot visualizing 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals presented in this study and in published ancient individuals (table S5) in relation to modern reference panel from the Human Origins data set (41 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-41)).


RESULTSWe produced genome-wide sequence data with genome coverage between 0.01× and 2.9× per individual for 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals from the Pontic-Caspian steppe from four chronologically sequential cultural groups, which comprise Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals (n = 13), Cimmerians (n = 3), Scythians (n = 14), and Sarmatians (n = 5), with radiocarbon dates between ca. 1900 BCE and 400 CE (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B; tables S1 to S3; and fig. S1, A and B). All DNA libraries displayed damage patterns typical of ancient DNA (fig. S2) (14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-14)). To ensure data integrity, we calculated mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)–based contamination levels using distribution of private polymorphisms in mtDNA (15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-15)) and a Bayesian likelihood method (16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-16)). The former yielded point estimates of contamination between 0 and 10% [95% confidence intervals (CIs) between 0 and 17%], and the latter method revealed that all individuals carried sequences with >89% probability of being authentic (table S4). Thus, we included all sequenced individuals in the downstream analyses.
Late Bronze Age (LBA) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Europeans or West Eurasians (17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-17)) including H, J1, K1, T2, U2, U4, and U5 (table S3). In contrast, the Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) additionally carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Central Asia and the Far East (A, C, D, and M) (table S3) (11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-11), 18 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-18)). The absence of East Asian mitochondrial lineages in the more eastern and older Srubnaya-Alakulskaya population suggests that the appearance of East Asian haplogroups in the steppe populations might be associated with the Iron Age nomads, starting with the Cimmerians. The Y chromosome haplogroup variation in 17 of 18 males was limited to two major haplogroup lineages within the macrohaplogroup “R” (table S3). The Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried the Y haplogroup R1a, which showed a major expansion during the Bronze Age (19 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-19)). It has previously been found in Bronze Age individuals from the Krasnoyarsk Kurgan in Siberia (20 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-20)). The Iron Age nomads mostly carried the R1b Y haplogroup, which is characteristic of the Yamnaya of the Russian steppe (4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). An exception was a Cimmerian individual (cim358) who carried the Q1* lineage associated with the east (table S3).
Genetic relationships between Eurasian steppe nomads and present-day populationsPCA on the autosomal genomic data (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1) and table S5) revealed the following: (i) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals exhibited genetic affinity to northern and northeastern present-day Europeans (fig. S3), and these results were also consistent with outgroup f3 statistics (table S6 and fig. S4A). (ii) The Cimmerian individuals, representing the time period of transition from Bronze to Iron Age, were not homogeneous regarding their genetic similarities to present-day populations according to the PCA. F3 statistics confirmed the heterogeneity of these individuals in comparison with present-day populations (table S6 and figs. S3 and S4C). (iii) The Scythians reported in this study, from the core Scythian territory in the North Pontic steppe (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)), showed high intragroup diversity. In the PCA, they are positioned as four visually distinct groups compared to the gradient of present-day populations (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1)): (i) A group of three individuals (scy009, scy010, and scy303) showed genetic affinity to north European populations, hereafter referred to as a north European (NE) cluster. (ii) A group of four individuals (scy192, scy197, scy300, and scy305) showed genetic similarities to southern European populations, hereafter referred to as a south European (SE) cluster. (iii) A group of three individuals (scy006, scy011, and scy193) located between the genetic variation of Mordovians and populations of the North Caucasus, hereafter referred to as a steppe cluster (SC). In addition, one Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individual (kzb004), the most recent Cimmerian (cim357), and all Sarmatians fell within this cluster. In contrast to the Scythians, and despite being from opposite ends of the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the five Sarmatians grouped close together in this cluster. (iv) A group of three Scythians (scy301, scy304, and scy311) formed a discrete group















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The scy197b was a Scythian from Moldova no more no less.

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He still doesn't let me create the SZ18 kit. The scy197b is a Scythian from Moldova







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Fig. 1 Radiocarbon ages and geographical locations of the ancient samples used in this study.Figure panels presented counterclockwise: (A) Bar plot visualizing approximate timeline of presented and previously published individuals. (B) Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses. (C) Principal component analysis (PCA) plot visualizing 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals presented in this study and in published ancient individuals (table S5) in relation to modern reference panel from the Human Origins data set (41 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-41)).


RESULTS

We produced genome-wide sequence data with genome coverage between 0.01× and 2.9× per individual for 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals from the Pontic-Caspian steppe from four chronologically sequential cultural groups, which comprise Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals (n = 13), Cimmerians (n = 3), Scythians (n = 14), and Sarmatians (n = 5), with radiocarbon dates between ca. 1900 BCE and 400 CE (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B; tables S1 to S3; and fig. S1, A and B). All DNA libraries displayed damage patterns typical of ancient DNA (fig. S2) (14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-14)). To ensure data integrity, we calculated mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)–based contamination levels using distribution of private polymorphisms in mtDNA (15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-15)) and a Bayesian likelihood method (16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-16)). The former yielded point estimates of contamination between 0 and 10% [95% confidence intervals (CIs) between 0 and 17%], and the latter method revealed that all individuals carried sequences with >89% probability of being authentic (table S4). Thus, we included all sequenced individuals in the downstream analyses.
Late Bronze Age (LBA) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Europeans or West Eurasians (17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-17)) including H, J1, K1, T2, U2, U4, and U5 (table S3). In contrast, the Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) additionally carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Central Asia and the Far East (A, C, D, and M) (table S3) (11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-11), 18 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-18)). The absence of East Asian mitochondrial lineages in the more eastern and older Srubnaya-Alakulskaya population suggests that the appearance of East Asian haplogroups in the steppe populations might be associated with the Iron Age nomads, starting with the Cimmerians. The Y chromosome haplogroup variation in 17 of 18 males was limited to two major haplogroup lineages within the macrohaplogroup “R” (table S3). The Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried the Y haplogroup R1a, which showed a major expansion during the Bronze Age (19 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-19)). It has previously been found in Bronze Age individuals from the Krasnoyarsk Kurgan in Siberia (20 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-20)). The Iron Age nomads mostly carried the R1b Y haplogroup, which is characteristic of the Yamnaya of the Russian steppe (4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). An exception was a Cimmerian individual (cim358) who carried the Q1* lineage associated with the east (table S3).
Genetic relationships between Eurasian steppe nomads and present-day populations

PCA on the autosomal genomic data (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1) and table S5) revealed the following: (i) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals exhibited genetic affinity to northern and northeastern present-day Europeans (fig. S3), and these results were also consistent with outgroup f3 statistics (table S6 and fig. S4A). (ii) The Cimmerian individuals, representing the time period of transition from Bronze to Iron Age, were not homogeneous regarding their genetic similarities to present-day populations according to the PCA. F3 statistics confirmed the heterogeneity of these individuals in comparison with present-day populations (table S6 and figs. S3 and S4C). (iii) The Scythians reported in this study, from the core Scythian territory in the North Pontic steppe (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)), showed high intragroup diversity. In the PCA, they are positioned as four visually distinct groups compared to the gradient of present-day populations (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1)): (i) A group of three individuals (scy009, scy010, and scy303) showed genetic affinity to north European populations, hereafter referred to as a north European (NE) cluster. (ii) A group of four individuals (scy192, scy197, scy300, and scy305) showed genetic similarities to southern European populations, hereafter referred to as a south European (SE) cluster. (iii) A group of three individuals (scy006, scy011, and scy193) located between the genetic variation of Mordovians and populations of the North Caucasus, hereafter referred to as a steppe cluster (SC). In addition, one Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individual (kzb004), the most recent Cimmerian (cim357), and all Sarmatians fell within this cluster. In contrast to the Scythians, and despite being from opposite ends of the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the five Sarmatians grouped close together in this cluster. (iv) A group of three Scythians (scy301, scy304, and scy311) formed a discrete group

















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Ancient genomes suggest the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppe as the source of western Iron Age nomads




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[*=left]Gülşah Merve Kılınç1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-1),* (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#f n-1),† (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#c orresp-1),
[*=left]Anna Juras2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Dilek Koptekin3 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-3),
[*=left]Maciej Chyleński4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-4),
[*=left]Alexey G. Nikitin5 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-5),
[*=left]Nikolai Shcherbakov6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),
[*=left]Iia Shuteleva6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),7 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-7),
[*=left]Tatiana Leonova6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-6),
[*=left]Liudmila Kraeva8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-8),
[*=left]Flarit A. Sungatov9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-9),
[*=left]Alfija N. Sultanova9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-9),
[*=left]Inna Potekhina10 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-10),
[*=left]Sylwia Łukasik2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Marta Krenz-Niedbała2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-2),
[*=left]Love Dalén11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-11),
[*=left]Vitaly Sinika12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-12),13 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-13),
[*=left]Mattias Jakobsson14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-14),15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-15),16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-16),
[*=left]Jan Storå17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-17) and
[*=left]Anders Götherström1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#a ff-1),† (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#c orresp-1)






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Vol. 4, no. 10, eaat4457
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Abstract

For millennia, the Pontic-Caspian steppe was a connector between the Eurasian steppe and Europe. In this scene, multidirectional and sequential movements of different populations may have occurred, including those of the Eurasian steppe nomads. We sequenced 35 genomes (low to medium coverage) of Bronze Age individuals (Srubnaya-Alakulskaya) and Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) that represent four distinct cultural entities corresponding to the chronological sequence of cultural complexes in the region. Our results suggest that, despite genetic links among these peoples, no group can be considered a direct ancestor of the subsequent group. The nomadic populations were heterogeneous and carried genetic affinities with populations from several other regions including the Far East and the southern Urals. We found evidence of a stable shared genetic signature, making the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppe a likely source of western nomadic groups.

INTRODUCTION

The Pontic-Caspian steppe (PCS), stretching from the southern Urals to the western North Pontic lands, was the stage of various demographic changes in the past, and several of those remain unknown. During the Bronze and Iron Age, the area was inhabited by a succession of nomadic populations that had significant impact on the cultural development of both Asia and Europe (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1), 2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-2)). Possibly the best known of these groups is the Yamnaya. Recent genomic studies have revealed cross-continental Early Bronze Age migrations (~3000 BCE) of the nomadic people associated with the Yamnaya horizon (3 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-3), 4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). The migration introduced the Caucasus genetic component to the genetic landscape of Europe. In Central Europe, Yamnaya ancestry first appeared among people from the Corded Ware complex and has since been found in many subsequent ancient and present-day populations. However, the Pontic-Caspian steppe was critical not only for Early Bronze Age Yamnaya migrations but also because of succeeding movements and population transformations that took place in the developed classical stage of the Late Bronze and Iron Ages between 1800 BCE and 400 CE. This period covered the development of the Srubnaya and Alakulskaya Cultures (~1800–1200 BCE), associated with small settlement sites distributed from the Urals to the Dnieper valley (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1)). From around 1000 BCE, pre-Scythian nomadic populations started to appear in the western Pontic-Caspian steppe including the Cimmerians known from historical sources (5 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-5)). Despite regional variation and local peculiarities, the Cimmerians were not associated with any uniform type of archaeological material culture (6 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-6)). In the seventh century BCE, they were succeeded by the Scythians, who plausibly pushed the Cimmerians into Asia Minor (7 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-7)). Between 700 and 300 BCE, the Scythians, representing mobile pastoral nomads of a new militaristic type (1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-1)), dominated the Pontic-Kazakh steppe, occupying an area from the Altai to the Carpathian Mountains. Their decline began around 300 BCE and was caused by intensifying hostile relations with the Macedonians in the West and the invasion of the Sarmatians from the East. The Sarmatians and the Scythians are thought to have coexisted for a few centuries, but eventually, the former group prevailed (2 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-2)), resulting in the Scythian downfall. The Sarmatians are believed to comprise a number of groups of similar nomadic background (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-8)), and they became the politically most influential force within the eastern fringes of the Roman Empire at the time. Their decline (~400 CE) was associated with the attack of the Goths and the subsequent invasion of the Huns (8 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-8)).
The genomic structure of the Bronze and Iron Age (1800 BCE–400 CE) populations in the Pontic-Caspian steppe has not been fully resolved. While earlier genomic studies have suggested close links between the Srubnaya and the central European Late Neolithic and Bronze Age populations (9 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-9)), our knowledge of the genetic origins of the Cimmerians is limited. Genetic analyses of maternal lineages of Scythians suggest a mixed origin and an east-west admixture gradient across the Eurasian steppe (10 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-10)–12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). The genomics of two early Scythian Aldy-Bel individuals (13 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-13)) showed genetic affinities to eastern populations of Central Asia (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). However, population interactions and the origin of Scythians of the Pontic-Caspian steppe remain poorly understood. Similarly, little is known about the origins and genetic affinities of the Sarmatians. Genomic studies suggest that the latter group may have been genetically similar to the eastern Yamnaya and Poltavka Bronze Age groups (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)). To investigate the demographic dynamics in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, we generated and analyzed genomes of the Late Bronze and Iron Age individuals from the region (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B).
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Fig. 1 Radiocarbon ages and geographical locations of the ancient samples used in this study.Figure panels presented counterclockwise: (A) Bar plot visualizing approximate timeline of presented and previously published individuals. (B) Map showing the locations of ancient individuals sequenced in this study and the locations of previously published ancient individuals used in comparative analyses. (C) Principal component analysis (PCA) plot visualizing 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals presented in this study and in published ancient individuals (table S5) in relation to modern reference panel from the Human Origins data set (41 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-41)).


RESULTS

We produced genome-wide sequence data with genome coverage between 0.01× and 2.9× per individual for 35 Bronze Age and Iron Age individuals from the Pontic-Caspian steppe from four chronologically sequential cultural groups, which comprise Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals (n = 13), Cimmerians (n = 3), Scythians (n = 14), and Sarmatians (n = 5), with radiocarbon dates between ca. 1900 BCE and 400 CE (Fig. 1 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1), A and B; tables S1 to S3; and fig. S1, A and B). All DNA libraries displayed damage patterns typical of ancient DNA (fig. S2) (14 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-14)). To ensure data integrity, we calculated mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)–based contamination levels using distribution of private polymorphisms in mtDNA (15 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-15)) and a Bayesian likelihood method (16 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-16)). The former yielded point estimates of contamination between 0 and 10% [95% confidence intervals (CIs) between 0 and 17%], and the latter method revealed that all individuals carried sequences with >89% probability of being authentic (table S4). Thus, we included all sequenced individuals in the downstream analyses.
Late Bronze Age (LBA) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Europeans or West Eurasians (17 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-17)) including H, J1, K1, T2, U2, U4, and U5 (table S3). In contrast, the Iron Age nomads (Cimmerians, Scythians, and Sarmatians) additionally carried mtDNA haplogroups associated with Central Asia and the Far East (A, C, D, and M) (table S3) (11 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-11), 18 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-18)). The absence of East Asian mitochondrial lineages in the more eastern and older Srubnaya-Alakulskaya population suggests that the appearance of East Asian haplogroups in the steppe populations might be associated with the Iron Age nomads, starting with the Cimmerians. The Y chromosome haplogroup variation in 17 of 18 males was limited to two major haplogroup lineages within the macrohaplogroup “R” (table S3). The Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals carried the Y haplogroup R1a, which showed a major expansion during the Bronze Age (19 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-19)). It has previously been found in Bronze Age individuals from the Krasnoyarsk Kurgan in Siberia (20 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-20)). The Iron Age nomads mostly carried the R1b Y haplogroup, which is characteristic of the Yamnaya of the Russian steppe (4 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-4)). An exception was a Cimmerian individual (cim358) who carried the Q1* lineage associated with the east (table S3).
Genetic relationships between Eurasian steppe nomads and present-day populations

PCA on the autosomal genomic data (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1) and table S5) revealed the following: (i) Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individuals exhibited genetic affinity to northern and northeastern present-day Europeans (fig. S3), and these results were also consistent with outgroup f3 statistics (table S6 and fig. S4A). (ii) The Cimmerian individuals, representing the time period of transition from Bronze to Iron Age, were not homogeneous regarding their genetic similarities to present-day populations according to the PCA. F3 statistics confirmed the heterogeneity of these individuals in comparison with present-day populations (table S6 and figs. S3 and S4C). (iii) The Scythians reported in this study, from the core Scythian territory in the North Pontic steppe (12 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#r ef-12)), showed high intragroup diversity. In the PCA, they are positioned as four visually distinct groups compared to the gradient of present-day populations (Fig. 1C (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/10/eaat4457?fbclid=IwAR2kB2rFjt-HpIgDmLzl9qnQ5EDwi9LLivZu5p3Jx2NgiOxGk2nX8MZIVeI#F 1)): (i) A group of three individuals (scy009, scy010, and scy303) showed genetic affinity to north European populations, hereafter referred to as a north European (NE) cluster. (ii) A group of four individuals (scy192, scy197, scy300, and scy305) showed genetic similarities to southern European populations, hereafter referred to as a south European (SE) cluster. (iii) A group of three individuals (scy006, scy011, and scy193) located between the genetic variation of Mordovians and populations of the North Caucasus, hereafter referred to as a steppe cluster (SC). In addition, one Srubnaya-Alakulskaya individual (kzb004), the most recent Cimmerian (cim357), and all Sarmatians fell within this cluster. In contrast to the Scythians, and despite being from opposite ends of the Pontic-Caspian steppe, the five Sarmatians grouped close together in this cluster. (iv) A group of three Scythians (scy301, scy304, and scy311) formed a discrete group















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The scy197b was a Scythian from Moldova no more no less.


thanks

I asked , because I only go to one site which gives me the markers and the official papers ..................but it updates only 6 times a year

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#6/51.000/2.000

Palermo Trapani
26-01-20, 04:20
I went ahead and did a quick run. I am getting Ancient Greece and Roman, which based on the runs I did using the samples Duarte and Jovialis put together, not surprising. For modern populations not bad but West Sicilian is #4 which is where all my ancestors came from. But overall a really neat tool.



Your closest Ancient populations...
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Mycenaean.jpgAncient Greek

https://mytrueancestry.com/img/RomanCentral.jpgRoman



Ancient GreeksRomansHellenic RomansThraciansRoman Hispania


Ancient Greek + Roman (3.268)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.806)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (4.592)
Hellenic Roman + Thracian (4.796)
Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (5.612)
Hellenic Roman (8.394)
Roman (8.842)
Ancient Greek (10.44)
Thracian (10.85)
Roman Hispania (14.17)

Your closest genetic modern populations...
Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
1. East_Sicilian (5.638)
2. South_Italian (5.703)
3. Central_Greek (6.399)
4. West_Sicilian (6.457)
5. Italian_Abruzzo (7.737)
6. Italian_Jewish (8.336)
7. Greek_Islands (8.757)
8. Greek_Crete (8.838)

Salento
26-01-20, 05:31
My R437 rw, Jovialis R1 and R850 rw

https://i.imgur.com/W9KY9B3.gif

https://i.imgur.com/Rf2vkoN.gif

https://i.imgur.com/eZ27djO.gif

Palermo Trapani
26-01-20, 05:34
Salento: What level is that to do those comparisons. I signed up for Level 4, and I think it is a good investment for what I paid. Can I do those comparisons with Level 4. Just started doing some analysis as I just paid a few minutes ago. Thanks in advance.

Salento
26-01-20, 05:58
Salento: What level is that to do those comparisons. I signed up for Level 4, and I think it is a good investment for what I paid. Can I do those comparisons with Level 4. Just started doing some analysis as I just paid a few minutes ago. Thanks in advance.

You need Olympus to create default Ancient Kits,

I have Zeus, a step below, ... so I uploaded the RawData of the Ancient Kits above instead :)

Salento
26-01-20, 06:50
My Byzantine matches:

83. Byzantine Empire Troy (1300 AD) ..... 19.27 - ByzantineNod1

95. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 20.38 - NS3b

Palermo Trapani
26-01-20, 07:05
You need Olympus to create default Ancient Kits,

I have Zeus, a step below, ... so I uploaded the RawData of the Ancient Kits above instead :)

Miei Complimenti Salento!

Carlos
26-01-20, 14:32
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bndKfBQ3w_w/Xi2EwfjCGlI/AAAAAAAACf0/KiE1xkMpkr8dhqc2UelsUMnQrwUH0HxqgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIO1.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pPS1s3ADC2k/Xi2E1UKLTrI/AAAAAAAACf4/cAuaPusqDMgC9F7VSf0Vr-X6LDO_oms8ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIO3.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tRsHStD_FcI/Xi2E5m8cwsI/AAAAAAAACf8/MdneYASsAIUeqFSMeS20RX_y4oPwl7YwQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/M%25C3%258DO.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-48o3e_t8XSc/Xi2eBNOwLcI/AAAAAAAACgc/Hs635GZp6EM18cZjoNMjL0MwOlAlJBbtACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/miogalloroman.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LBtFGM67cA4/Xi2eKND0ThI/AAAAAAAACgg/N7Nl4jwl1XUgrKRoCtrz6HN943S7_fktACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOgaloroman2.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UCHw09kHVek/Xi2eNfmXpPI/AAAAAAAACgk/VAnkH_zmyREI9lRI2RHjJfknKnkhMRdsgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/miogaloromancripta.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_tTL-hThmdw/Xi2ePfbAmvI/AAAAAAAACgo/8Mx1Y9SStZYwWgz234ZwV6o48FV7gpN1QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOgironaSANTJULIADEremis.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QwUBq_J-QcY/Xi2eRuwbrRI/AAAAAAAACgw/3Owbh0w8yK4XaeQjzO4xCV4NeMC6qssJgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOiberianPiedmont.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-njQS0oqeK34/Xi2eUY-NvXI/AAAAAAAACg0/FzkzWox3w6ExvH1Oqveos6DdlAgILXgWgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOnorthalpinebronze.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l8PAaVjMrGE/Xi2eWnX865I/AAAAAAAACg4/5farsN3dhWg0V7k9StxyQ--LatTapSeOACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOsantJuliadeRamis.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--yFTyjN3PUo/Xi2eYwrzsfI/AAAAAAAACg8/YogQin3uEps3VfXN8zAH4EnwOV7kS_ziACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MIOvasconic.jpeg

Roman Hispania does not appear. The highest peaks coincide with Visigoths, Gallo-Roman late Roma, medieval, late medieval with older correspondences on par with Cogotas, Etruscans, North Alpine. During Al-Andalus it seems that I endure the body of my ancestral Iberia mix well. I have the impression that it is the fifth century that influences my composition by altering it at the end of Rome. I don't know if I'm right but it's the impression I have and Medieval Late Medieval.

Palermo Trapani
31-01-20, 05:24
My Byzantine matches:

83. Byzantine Empire Troy (1300 AD) ..... 19.27 - ByzantineNod1

95. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 20.38 - NS3b

Salento: Those,based on My True Ancestry's definitions, are both good matches. <=10 is defined as this is your ancient ancestry and <=20 this person is part of your ancestral link.

Salento
31-01-20, 06:18
Salento: Those,based on My True Ancestry's definitions, are both good matches. <=10 is defined as this is your ancient ancestry and <=20 this person is part of your ancestral link.

No, they’re not,
Nº 83 and 95 out of 100.

Palermo Trapani
31-01-20, 21:17
So a distance score of 19.37 and 20.38, even though your #83 and 95 out of 100 closest matches, would still indicate some genetic affinity and relationship? or I am misinterpreting or overstating the genetic affinity between you and those 2 Byzantine Greeks.

torzio
31-01-20, 21:24
my sister's result for deep dive breakdown

https://i.postimg.cc/nL0Dv7Cj/sonia.png (https://postimages.org/)




my father is very similar except top is scythian and bottom is Illyrian

Salento
31-01-20, 22:15
So a distance score of 19.37 and 20.38, even though your #83 and 95 out of 100 closest matches, would still indicate some genetic affinity and relationship? or I am misinterpreting or overstating the genetic affinity between you and those 2 Byzantine Greeks.

I don’t know, but according to what others say any distance over 5 is too far.
my 10 - 11 ... distance matches were criticized for been too far, now, imagine 19 or 20, ....

Palermo Trapani
31-01-20, 23:44
Salento: My interpretation was based on MyTrueAncestry's definitions. For Ancient Populations, they noted that a score of <=10 indicates this is part of your Ancient ancestry. A score of <=20 indicates a population that you are related to and I think for a score of <=30, then one that you could be related to. For Modern populations, <=5 is a population that is like a Match, <=10 is one that you have a close relation to and <=15 indicates one that you are probably related to. I have wondered what is a clear methodology for interpreting these genetic distances used from these calculators and have not been able to find an article from a Statistics Journal that has run these models and come up with a way to define them. MyTrueAncestry is the first site that has provided some definitions for interpreting the Distance numbers, maybe there are others, but that is the first one I have seen. I both modern and Deep Ancestry dives and then clicked the Info which described how to interpret the distances. So that was the context I made my post #223 above.

Definitions for Modern Populations
What do these numbers mean?
Genetic distance measures how close you are to a given modern population. Many modern populations are surprisingly close to another, which is often due to true common ancestry.
5 means you are close to this population
10 means you could fit into this population
15 means a related population

Definitions for Ancient Populations
What do these numbers mean?
Genetic distance measures how close you are to a given sample.
10 means this is your ancient ancestry
20 means this is part of your ancestral link
30 means possibly related to your ancestry
The info button displays detailed sample information - a green circle around the info button reveals a Sample Spotlight.

Salento
31-01-20, 23:55
Salento: My interpretation was based on MyTrueAncestry's definitions. For Ancient Populations, they noted that a score of <=10 indicates this is part of your Ancient ancestry. A score of <=20 indicates a population that you are related to and I think for a score of <=30, then one that you could be related to. For Modern populations, <=5 is a population that is like a Match, <=10 is one that you have a close relation to and <=15 indicates one that you are probably related to. I have wondered what is a clear methodology for interpreting these genetic distances used from these calculators and have not been able to find an article from a Statistics Journal that has run these models and come up with a way to define them. MyTrueAncestry is the first site that has provided some definitions for interpreting the Distance numbers, maybe there are others, but that is the first one I have seen. I both modern and Deep Ancestry dives and then clicked the Info which described how to interpret the distances. So that was the context In made my post #223 above.

The distances I mentioned were about MTA, I already said what mods and users stated about my MTA 10 / 11 distances. ... too far! regardless the MTA info.

Palermo Trapani
01-02-20, 00:28
Salento: Ok, so the rule of thumb for ancient populations is <=10 to considered a close match for an Ancient population and thus considered something worth posting and opening up for discussion. I will try and go with that as best I can if that is the protocol used for Ancients vs. ones own DNA comparisons. Thanks.

Salento
01-02-20, 06:00
Salento: Ok, so the rule of thumb for ancient populations is <=10 to considered a close match for an Ancient population and thus considered something worth posting and opening up for discussion. I will try and go with that as best I can if that is the protocol used for Ancients vs. ones own DNA comparisons. Thanks.

If we follow protocol we won’t have much to show.

the latest samples I posted were on the 19 distance range, lol

keep posting :)

Carlos
01-02-20, 17:33
Some curious things in the difference in the treatment of some perirodo and others

94. Tartessian Archaic Andalusia (600 BC) ..... 16.35 - I12171 -

The necropolis of La Angorilla is located near Sevilla Spain and dates from the 8th to 6th century BC. The tombs present rectangular shape and are oriented in a west-east direction, a feature common amongst the necropolis of the Phoenician archaic period in the Iberian Peninsula.

22. Bronze Age Spain Cogotas (1290 BC) ..... 12.13 - I12209 -

La Requejada is a site located on a terrace of the river Duero in Castilla y Leon Spain. As with other Cogotas I sites, nearby were numerous structures filled with refuse material (ceramic shards, animal bones, ashes).

This individual was an infantile male.

64. Roman Era Girona (80 AD) ..... 14.63 - I8339

Empuries is a major Ancient Greek and Ancient Roman archaeological site in Girona Province, on the Mediterranean coast of the Spanish region of Catalonia.

It comprises the ruins of the Ancient Greek colony of Emporion established by colonists from the Ionian Greek city of Phocaea in Anatolia in the first half of the 6th century BC, and the ruins of an Ancient Roman fortified camp turned into a town in the 1st century BC, the earliest traces of Roman presence in the area. At the beginning of the Roman imperial period, the Greek and Roman towns were integrated into municipium Emporiae.

Archaeological structures in the vicinity of Empuries include remains from as early as the Neolithic, through the Final Bronze Age and the Early Iron Age, and the again in the Late Antiquity and Medieval Period, even though the Roman city was abandoned in the 3rd century AD.

Even though the first archaeological excavations of Empuries began in 1908, the Greek and Roman ruins and their respective burial sites had already been looted repeatedly. The fact that human remains had not been preserved in most of the tombs and graves limited the anthropological information about the site until new discoveries began to be made in the 1980s.

The remains of a total of 24 people discovered since then have been genetically analyzed revealing previously unattainable information about life in Empuries during the Antiquity period.

The construction of a new visitor center led to rescue excavations in 2010, which exposed a necropolis of tombs south of the Ancient Greek town. The necropolis is dated to between 500 BC and 350 BC based on the remains of ten people.

Further digs revealed that the area even further to the south was used as a cemetery in the Roman period, with pit burials and tombs covered with tegulae (Roman tiles) from the 2nd century AD. The remains of five people recovered from them were dated to between 100 AD and 200 AD. Those of a sixth person are dated to between 43 BC and 51 AD, and those of a seventh person - to between 57 AD and 208 AD.

112. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 17.04 - I6490

The Mas Gassol archaeological site in Catalonia, Spain comprises the ruins of an Ancient Roman countryside villa (villa rustica), with a small necropolis. The Roman remains in question are dated to the period between 200 AD and 500 AD. It is located near the town of Alcover, Tarragona Province, 18 km away from the city of Tarragona (Tarraco), at the foot of the Prades Mountains, at an altitude of 235 m above sea level. Tarragona itself is known as the earliest Roman settlement on the Iberian Peninsula, founded back in 218 BC. Subsequently, it developed into the capital of the Roman province of Hispania Citerior (197-27 BC) and then Hispania Tarraconensis (27 BC-476 AD).
Roman Tarragonas hinterland (called Ager Tarraconensis) was dotted with numerous countryside villas specialized in farming and livestock breeding.
Mas Gassol countryside villa featured a landowners residence as well as what is described as a farming management center. The villa necropolis, which was in use in the 3rd 5th century AD, was found to have a total of six graves containing the remains of 10 people - 8 adults and 2 children.
Five of the graves in question were built of tegulae (Roman tiles) and limestone slabs, with material derived from the area. Three of those contained the remains of more than one person: two adults in two of those, and two adults and one child in the third one.
The sixth grave was a burial in a wooden coffin which proved to be the resting place of a child who was aged 5 or 6.
The deceased buried in the six graves in the Mas Gassol necropolis was laid to rest with their heads pointing northwest, looking in the direction of the rising of the sun.
The landscape around Mas Gassol can be seen here (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#). Human teeth from the Roman graves (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#) at Mas Gassol have been used in a wide-ranging research on the genomic history of the Iberian Peninsula.

149. Roman Villa Granada Spain (300 AD) ..... 18.86 - I4055

The Roman villa of Camino de Ronda-Plaza Einstein is in the city of Granada (Spain) with a necropolis dated to the 3rd and 4th centuries. Nearby artifacts include common ware with comb-incised decoration and Africa TSA type tableware.



That's all they have to say about the vettones and that's all they have to say nothing more and nothing less than the Tartessos Kingdom.

The Tarraconense had a seat in the Roman Senate, I think not, La Bética and the conventus gaditanus did have both seats in the Roman Senate.

But please, very badly done in this regard.

https://www.diariodecadiz.es/resources/images/0000599420.jpg
With reserved seats in RomeTwo researchers from the University of Cádiz travel to the Italian capital to analyze two inscriptions with the word 'Gaditanorum' in the stands of the Colosseum · They have been documented since 1939

In fact, both inscriptions are published in the epigraphic catalogs, a corpus of Roman inscriptions called CIL (Corpus Inscripcionum Latinarum), specifically in the volume dedicated to Rome: "They are collected, but have not had significance because from Rome it looks like a something far away, but we are very interested because it verifies that there are very intense relations between the two cities, even long after the Balbo era, which is the peak of relations between Gades and the capital of the empire. that in Cádiz there were very wealthy families who could reserve seats in the cavea, in the privileged area of the Colosseum. " They were seats, in short, intended for senators or privileged groups of Roman society.

"And it is the only inscription in the entire coliseum concerning the reservation of seats for citizens of a municipality. There is no other inscription that speaks of cities that had a reserved place in the colosseum, which does not mean that no there would be, but none have been preserved, "says Bernal.


The inscriptions can be contemplated at the moment in the colosseum, in an area of the amphitheater that is restored and that can be visited; in fact it is the only area in the stands that is restored.


Darío Bernal confirms the importance of Gades among the cities that formed the Roman Empire, an importance based on trade, in the economy: "It was a fundamental seaport in the commercial relations between the Mediterranean and the Italian Peninsula, with oil, flax, the salting of fish, and this allowed the oligarchy, the great Cadiz families, to promote themselves to this point, "explains the UCA professor.

https://www.diariodecadiz.es/ocio/asientos-reservados-Roma_0_381562208.html


And so I could continue with The Kingdom of Tartessos and Cogotas, but well they will see what they do in the treatment they give to different cultures e.t.c.

matty74
02-02-20, 20:50
https://i.imgur.com/oOJtOiP.png

Carlos
03-02-20, 11:51
Well-constituted boys who eat seafood, I had to be there.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KU0O7pKhecs/XjWxiDm8pVI/AAAAAAAACnY/HRs7EMjcEnk995BL9VCVL0lrAiJv47FbACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmassacre.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KU0O7pKhecs/XjWxiDm8pVI/AAAAAAAACnY/HRs7EMjcEnk995BL9VCVL0lrAiJv47FbACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmassacre.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tZPzg5BU90U/XjWxqiVi0HI/AAAAAAAACng/h5gtixQR7Yk79U5O5gByDzD1cGwBHBk8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmasacre3.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mEoDb5IKrDs/XjWxnUACfII/AAAAAAAACnc/NFm-WqEZaZQNzQNfK9DJZSl4_ZUvd7Q4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vikingmasacre2.jpeg

Palermo Trapani
03-02-20, 18:17
If we follow protocol we won’t have much to show.

the latest samples I posted were on the 19 distance range, lol

keep posting :)

Ok, will do, Cheers.

Carlos
07-02-20, 17:22
Now we are going to study one of my Deep Dives

Does it make you?

I knew it, well let's go there. After having published in other threads tons of straw bales of wet paper that has not served for anything, we fly to the little that we have minimally decent.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rlrjcD7D00A/XiHX0PZVJbI/AAAAAAAACTw/mcRrPPrXHwI1-GYPdBbFw0-Kvai-LKM0ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/VasconesTribeVasconiaI3759.JPEG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cAAF8gC2OH0/Xi96FiKcoeI/AAAAAAAACis/el8BUlsKdechveAr_L46lk-52_nZqydGwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/vasconesVasconia.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tFiapV3vRHg/Xj12U6Kq9KI/AAAAAAAACwY/VOHeDnLb7cc7vEiAjQlxkk3sZoYlk0D8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/closestancient.jpeg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j89jlU571oA/Xj7Rlmc7BII/AAAAAAAACzk/XIpV6OnFnBwKkQ8sHWPMCPSdqdCIjouqwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/breakdown2o.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xwbxs7EJpyM/Xj12g-51INI/AAAAAAAACwk/gWUjgAWVFx4fXS6mDDmkun9IFoaz19c9ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/deepdivemape.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xrH93VyRUxI/Xj12sUE-8HI/AAAAAAAACww/yZEh4HlzzC0H67AjsltKeiEPYvNFeTL6ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/premiumeurope.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CdcOieQZGr8/Xj12x1siSWI/AAAAAAAACw4/GZYGRoqhe0g6g3kRFGXz92TzjF6qCtYGwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/timeline25samples.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e9ShFSuVSIQ/Xj122XR5wKI/AAAAAAAACw8/i28JQ4AUoTksViXQp6R8ihN-GYMonubsQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/timeline100samples.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a45sDmE8nDU/Xj127nDD3iI/AAAAAAAACxA/EYIsXETLqq4mgZW_-09NWgGMZTSriPWVgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/timeline200samples.jpeg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yTxp2-sKJlY/Xj7TKEEnkSI/AAAAAAAACzw/74XxmgW3eogea55QDEA9-hVbwKomAIujACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/breakdowntelara%25C3%25B1a2o.jpeg



https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wP9tySOmwWY/Xj13G3fKADI/AAAAAAAACxM/XmzwGj_h3Zosm8TZa4MOMxPBFfEWkVdeACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ydistribution.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DsZO8kiLR5w/Xj13JrvmO1I/AAAAAAAACxQ/1TaY4Itfxpsp5CesUH6F_KNFpZVZIboYACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/mtdistribution.jpeg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JdOS7dR-mVU/Xj13SYxLtZI/AAAAAAAACxU/eHFug6o_HGYC7Gs9omHf_RpeVFkC0a5xgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/alpinebronzeage.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eyceSFAizkI/Xj13Vs0Ks8I/AAAAAAAACxY/JPrLkqvd97I6_-ENqNn0-YVevcqKs7apwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/bronzeagespaincogotas.jpeg


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LOZG4RWBmTA/Xj13YgQICAI/AAAAAAAACxg/k7Qxw9wlSjgW65NnuiGWyqyS6cAjcI8zACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/bronzeagespaincogotas2.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8ogyJmHbrJw/Xj13bdjUb2I/AAAAAAAACxo/32uIqM96e0wK-WAxu_hp_s2oF3UdL--LgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/celtiberiannorternspain.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vq0klFhePtY/Xj13eU_FswI/AAAAAAAACxs/ZL_n1oWSHvYlyZ1DYpN8IRWKwBoLlfkrACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/galloroman.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HXzU7nMuK3Q/Xj13gzrb5VI/AAAAAAAACxw/gn7fXl_Euh4hYa4Dp8phOh8xVDprjfA_ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/galoroman.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O39VXaUnIm8/Xj13jpL9XMI/AAAAAAAACx4/6sR9m3p9N-YnwMPOdhcN0KdJKSvBQuJiwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/galoromancrypta.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LpHPIKH_Sfg/Xj13mmDHNLI/AAAAAAAACyA/erN9GuxlPI85d8iUi20EyTx75U9gYGXiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/iberianilergetes.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oI0lzcfu90k/Xj13pHk7clI/AAAAAAAACyE/PdHLgrADreYaTIaoBTvL-rJwTapB2TjxACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/ilergetesOutliercatalan.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ju129DYsYL0/Xj13sR6FTuI/AAAAAAAACyI/J15T4Trce-wYi2IgBNOLO3tOgBrpPknBQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/irelandcooper.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uAp3TZxxDSc/Xj131fdR8iI/AAAAAAAACyY/V-cpa20pOik4I0hXDcjTZvmPwUfNCC5rwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/settlerviking.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FgpPfWjPnas/Xj134GmnXvI/AAAAAAAACyg/-k-bO3ZUxuIluofY-ezrGdE2F6h0e8OjwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Westerngermany.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-skwNVmE-_UQ/Xj2CUtDoH8I/AAAAAAAACy8/KhxISvXsGUAYKDR7zN5h4YJwJd1ba809wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/outliersamples.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JpB-P6tIelk/Xj2CK07W-1I/AAAAAAAACy4/ON2zCnhUcQ4jbwhvcDfQY6nJYHI2x5bywCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Eras.jpeg

1+2=3
2+1=3

torzio
07-02-20, 18:10
let me know if I am wrong ........but the timeline below , once you move the middle bar to BC times includes/adds others

https://i.postimg.cc/wjLW35f8/my-ancestral.png (https://postimages.org/)

so I assume only the Orange bars are for me and they are the only ones that appear on the default...it this correct

Red and blue bars are not mine ??!!

Twilight
08-02-20, 02:19
11795
Does anybody know what time in history the Ancient Swedes settled in the British Isles or France; becides the England Runes? Im not seeing anything online and Im hoping that there is some history material in another language :)

torzio
08-02-20, 02:39
11795
Does anybody know what time in history the Swedish Vikings settled in the British Isles or France; becides the England Runes? I�m not seeing anything online and I�m hoping that there is some history material in another language :)

the invasions started in the 9th century

matty74
11-02-20, 03:30
My sister got her ancestry results back yesterday. Some interesting matches on MTA as well

Myself:

Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt + Saxon (3.622)
Celt + Vandal (3.737)
Viking + Saxon (3.995)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)

Sibling:

Viking Danish + Saxon (4.993)
Celt + Saxon (5.59)
Celt + Frank (5.921)
Celt (6.036)
Viking Danish + Celt (6.145)
Saxon + Frank (6.61)
Viking Danish (8.702)
Frank (9.124)
Saxon (9.39)
Viking Icelandic (10.83)

matty74
11-02-20, 03:34
Myself:

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
1. Celtic Mix Lombard (580 AD) ..... 4.462 - CL83 - ?
Top
99 % match vs all users

2. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 5.02 - I5377 -
Top
96 % match vs all users

3. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.297 - I2860 -
Top
96 % match vs all users

4. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 5.432 - I2097 -
Top
98 % match vs all users

5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 5.435 - I5383 -
Top
99 % match vs all users

6. Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany (1068 AD) ..... 5.441 - Petersberg -
Top
99 % match vs all users

7. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 5.617 - PCA100_Mas13 - ?
Top
99 % match vs all users

8. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 5.646 - I2452 -
Top
97 % match vs all users

9. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 5.708 - HinxtonO1 -
Top
90 % match vs all users

10. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 5.739 - NS1 -
Top
98 % match vs all users

11. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 5.82 - G21 -
Top
96 % match vs all users

12. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.824 - I2859 -
Top
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13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 5.968 - SZ15 -
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14. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.111 - Hinxton 4
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15. Celt Hinxton Iron Age (45 BC) ..... 6.127 - HI2 -
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16. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 6.262 - I1767 -
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17. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 6.463 - Linton -
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18. North Alpine Bronze Age (1812 BC) ..... 6.524 - AITI_50 -
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19. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 6.54 - I2573 -
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20. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 6.759 - G48 -
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21. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 6.788 - HI1 -
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22. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 6.814 - VDP-A6 -
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93 % match vs all users

23. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.864 - 6DRIF-18 -
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24. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 7.094 - I2458 -
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25. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 7.242 - Hinxton HS3 -
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26. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 7.253 - Unknown
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91 % match vs all users

27. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 7.281 - I2981 -
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28. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.302 - SSJ-A2 -
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29. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 7.33 - OSL9B -
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30. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 7.336 - CL92 -
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31. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 7.341 - TSK-A26 -
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32. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 7.369 - I7573 -
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33. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 7.389 - NS6 -
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34. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 7.498 - I3875 -
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35. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.624 - SZ12 -
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36. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 7.653 - CL146 -
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37. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.677 - SZ14 -
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38. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.69 - 2099 -
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39. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.723 - I5515 -
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40. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.729 - KNS-A1 -
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41. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 7.749 - I2568 -
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42. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 7.886 - I2653 -
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43. Saxon Germanic Empuries (275 BC) ..... 7.932 - I8206 -
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44. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (485 AD) ..... 7.98 - AED_249 -
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45. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 8.031 - G154
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46. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.042 - 6DRIF-23 -
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47. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 8.052 - NW_255
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48. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 8.06 - CL84 -
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49. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.087 - ORE-A1 -
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50. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 8.103 - POST_6 -
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51. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 8.115 - Rathlin2 -
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52. Norwegian Viking Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 8.134 - STT-A2 -
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53. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.141 - SZ4 -
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54. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 8.149 - 97029 -
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55. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 8.265 - G300 -
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56. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) ..... 8.268 - Shohola -
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57. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 8.333 - KOV-A2 -
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58. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 8.341 - 15594A -
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59. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 8.342 - ALH_1 -
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60. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 8.411 - I5367 -
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61. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.439 - GTE-A1 -
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62. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.476 - GRS-A1 -
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63. Iron Age Melton England (85 BC) ..... 8.506 - M1489 -
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64. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) ..... 8.557 - DA119
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65. Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen (2240 BC) ..... 8.585 - WEHR_1192SkA -
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66. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 8.623 - 6DRIF-3 -
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67. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 8.634 - I2609 -
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68. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 8.688 - I6680 -
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69. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.727 - Sigtuna grt035
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70. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.796 - stg021 - ?
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71. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.8 - 84035 -
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72. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.802 - OakO4 -
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73. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.836 - DKS-A1 -
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74. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.875 - SZ7 -
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75. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 8.877 - Hinxton 1
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76. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.889 - G24 -
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77. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.898 - SZ22 -
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78. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 8.946 - Ber37 - ?
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79. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 8.962 - SZ23 -
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80. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.977 - Sigtuna stg021 -
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81. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 9.007 - ALH_10 -
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82. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 9.022 - Ber45 - ?
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83. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 9.036 - I3255 -
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84. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.058 - SSG-A2 -
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85. Viking Denmark Revshale (1100 AD) ..... 9.065 - G43 -
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86. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 9.093 - 97002 -
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87. Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.133 - G149 -
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88. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 9.21 - Rathlin2B -
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89. Viking Gaelic Child Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.338 - YGS-B2 -
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90. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 9.365 - NS12b -
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91. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 9.381 - Revshale16 -
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92. Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.407 - G730 -
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93. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.411 - G973 -
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94. Bronze Age Dagger Koenigsbrunn (2046 BC) ..... 9.476 - OBKR_80 -
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95. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.499 - SZ38 - ?
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96. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.554 - SSG-A4 -
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97. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 9.572 - Rise577 -
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98. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 9.617 - DA194 -
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100. Merovingian Lord (605 AD) ..... 9.659 - NS9 -
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matty74
11-02-20, 03:35
Female Sibling Kit:

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)Info (https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.py#)
1. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 5.041 - G973 -
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2. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 5.203 - 6DRIF-3 -
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3. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 5.375 - I1767 -
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4. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 5.382 - 6DRIF-23 -
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5. Early Bronze Age Northern England (1750 BC) ..... 5.39 - I6680 -
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6. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 5.746 - I2860 -
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7. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 5.773 - VDP-A6 -
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8. Celt Hinxton Iron Age (45 BC) ..... 6.036 - HI2 -
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9. Celt Medieval Denmark Odense (1164 AD) ..... 6.537 - G427 -
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10. Celtic Briton (1 AD) ..... 6.625 - Hinxton 4
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11. Celtic Mix Lombard (580 AD) ..... 6.637 - CL83 - ?
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12. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 7.428 - SSG-A2 -
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13. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 7.511 - I5515 -
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14. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) ..... 7.621 - I5383 -
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15. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 7.789 - I2452 -
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16. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 7.885 - I2097 -
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17. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 8.127 - I5377 -
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18. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.159 - GTE-A1 -
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19. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 8.186 - ORE-A1 -
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20. Young Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 8.279 - NS6 -
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21. Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 8.377 - G149 -
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22. Bronze Age Amesbury (1450 BC) ..... 8.413 - I2458 -
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23. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.439 - SZ15 -
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24. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 8.465 - I2981 -
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25. Viking Denmark Revshale (1080 AD) ..... 8.702 - Revshale16 -
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26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 8.749 - SZ12 -
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27. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 8.974 - I2859 -
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28. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) ..... 9.048 - I3255 -
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88 % match vs all users

29. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 9.124 - SZ38 - ?
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30. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 9.198 - SZ14 -
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85 % match vs all users

31. Alemannic Frankish Bavaria (465 AD) ..... 9.218 - NW_255
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93 % match vs all users

32. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 9.36 - 6DRIF-21 -
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33. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 9.39 - HinxtonO1 -
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59 % match vs all users

34. Danish-Celtic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.511 - G730 -
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94 % match vs all users

35. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 9.551 - G21 -
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69 % match vs all users

36. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 9.597 - HI1 -
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37. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 9.65 - G48 -
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62 % match vs all users

38. Bronze Age Golden Boy Amesbury (1515 BC) ..... 9.674 - I2639 -
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39. Celtic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.835 - G658 -
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40. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 9.869 - I2418 -
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41. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 9.885 - I7573 -
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42. Post Viking Denmark Tirup (1200 AD) ..... 9.928 - G300 -
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43. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 10.05 - 6DRIF-18 -
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44. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 10.05 - 84035 -
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45. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.07 - SZ22 -
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46. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 10.09 - I5367 -
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47. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.09 - SZ4 -
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48. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 10.1 - I2573 -
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80 % match vs all users

49. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 10.17 - Ber45 - ?
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61 % match vs all users

50. Czech Velke Prilepy (2050 BC) ..... 10.18 - Rise577 -
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70 % match vs all users

51. High Status Male Haunstetten (1946 BC) ..... 10.2 - POST_6 -
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52. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 10.21 - I2653 -
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53. Medieval Netherlands Plague (1359 AD) ..... 10.21 - Ber37 - ?
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54. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 10.23 - Unknown
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55. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) ..... 10.35 - I2655 -
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56. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton (700 AD) ..... 10.41 - HinxtonO2 -
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57. Early Bronze Age Hexham (1900 BC) ..... 10.46 - I2609 -
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58. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 10.48 - Hinxton 1
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59. Philip Calvert Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) ..... 10.5 - 2099 -
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60. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 10.5 - 3DRIF-16 -
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61. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 10.51 - Linton -
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62. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 10.56 - ALH_10 -
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63. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 10.59 - 97029 -
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64. Viking Denmark Odense (1058 AD) ..... 10.64 - G507 -
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65. Medieval Upper Bavaria Germany (1068 AD) ..... 10.71 - Petersberg -
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66. Celtic Mix Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 10.74 - G1044 -
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67. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 10.75 - SZ11 -
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68. North Alpine Bronze Age (1812 BC) ..... 10.78 - AITI_50 -
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69. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (990 AD) ..... 10.81 - 97002 -
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70. Bell Beaker Augsburg (2215 BC) ..... 10.82 - HUGO_168 -
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71. Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 10.83 - VDP-A7 -
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72. Bell Beaker Ely England (2165 BC) ..... 10.9 - I2453 -
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73. Proto-Celtic Bronze Age Wehringen (2240 BC) ..... 10.98 - WEHR_1192SkA -
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74. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) ..... 11.03 - I4070 -
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75. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) ..... 11.07 - Rathlin2 -
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76. Bronze Age Wales (1650 BC) ..... 11.08 - I1775 -
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77. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) ..... 11.1 - I5512 -
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78. Nordic Lombard (580 AD) ..... 11.15 - CL146 -
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79. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 11.16 - SZ23 -
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80. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 11.26 - PCA100_Mas13 - ?
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81. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 11.44 - Hinxton HS3 -
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82. Battle Axe Sweden (1945 BC) ..... 11.46 - Rise97 -
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83. Bronze Age Scotland (1450 BC) ..... 11.46 - I2654 -
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84. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 11.47 - G154
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80 % match vs all users

85. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.47 - SSG-A4 -
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86. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) ..... 11.49 - I12162 -
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87. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) ..... 11.52 - I2566 -
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88. Celtic-Alemannic Tribe (505 AD) ..... 11.56 - Alh3a -
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89. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) ..... 11.56 - Rathlin1 -
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90. Bell Beaker Poland (2400 BC) ..... 11.56 - I4353
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91. Alemannic Saxon Bavaria (485 AD) ..... 11.62 - AED_249 -
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92. Merovingian Noble (605 AD) ..... 11.64 - NS1 -
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93. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 11.67 - OakO4 -
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94. North Sea Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 11.71 - G314 -
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95. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) ..... 11.74 - I5382 -
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96. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) ..... 11.75 - GRS-A1 -
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97. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 11.78 - 15594A -
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98. Celtic-Alemannic Tribe (420 AD) ..... 11.79 - AED432b - ?
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99. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) ..... 11.8 - Rise150 -
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100. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 11.82 - KOV-A2 -
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torzio
15-02-20, 03:31
after many months a new bronze-age marker for myself Rise480

https://i.postimg.cc/vBTwjMRz/new-feb20.png

part of this paper

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278327861_Population_genomics_of_Bronze_Age_Eurasi a (https://postimages.org/)

torzio
16-02-20, 18:31
My sister new ancient match ..........................new one is the bottm one

Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 12.91 - I3499 -



Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (2385 BC) ..... 16.49 - UNTA58_68Sk1 -

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her oldest outlier is

168. Corded Ware Estonia (2460 BC) ..... 22.37 - Rise595 -
Top 98 % match vs all users

Salento
22-02-20, 03:50
I think I found Spartacus Mother. LOL :grin:

Maybe, I3313 Illyrian / Dalmatian 1200 BC is the Matriarch of some of the Thracians.


https://i.imgur.com/madvXz6.jpg

Salento
22-02-20, 21:20
R1 (combined) Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/B65zMIx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xzRL73R.gif


R1 Top 40 Map:

https://i.imgur.com/XJukBAd.jpg


R1 Timeline:

https://i.imgur.com/ySzd515.jpg

torzio
22-02-20, 22:53
R1 (combined) Deep Dive:

https://i.imgur.com/B65zMIx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xzRL73R.gif


R1 Top 40 Map:

https://i.imgur.com/XJukBAd.jpg


R1 Timeline:

https://i.imgur.com/ySzd515.jpg


from the paper where the R1 sample came from

https://i.postimg.cc/hjftrRMF/r1-sample.png (https://postimages.org/)


clearly what most are saying in different threads R1 was associated also with Liburnians from Nin ...............where was she born ?

Carlos
23-02-20, 00:49
I am worried they have put a lot of samples of Ampurias Greek, Roman, Nazari period, post-Reconquest and Carolingiansand I had a tremendous anxiety attack. Obviously I had a lot of results. These people do not realize that there are countries with a lot of history and this suddenly cannot be done. When it is recovered I will start publishing, I'm younger today, thanks.

Salento
23-02-20, 05:18
... more of my Chrome :)

https://i.imgur.com/bTJqUPG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/c8Oq99p.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DCo6P5J.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VEIYJk4.jpg