Genetiker has posted results from runs of Dodecad and MDLP for both BR1 and IR1.
Felix has not yet posted results for them, so I'll use the Genetiker ones. I'm not sure if they're exactly precise, but I wanted to do a comparison between them, and for that purpose it's not that important. I just want to see how they differ. As I don't know where the population averages are for every MDLP run, I used the Dodecad ones. (This is just an editorial comment, but how are you supposed to check if the results are accurate if you don't have easily accessible population averages?)
Anyway, these are the K-7b results for the two ancient samples:
K7b BR1
- 75.40% Atlantic_Baltic
- 16.21% Southern
- 4.94% West_Asian
- 1.69% African
- 1.34% East_Asian
- 0.28% Siberian
- 0.15% South_Asian
K7b-IR1
- 50.15% Atlantic_Baltic
- 25.61% West_Asian
- 12.04% Southern
- 6.55% Siberian
- 2.56% South_Asian
- 1.78% East_Asian
- 1.32% African
IR1 has much lower Atlantic Baltic, and much, much higher "West Asian". (The Iron Age man has 25 points less Atlantic-Baltic, and 20 points more "West Asian". Now, whether this is because the Bronze Age peoples of the Steppe were different from the get go, (with perhaps more Atlantic-Baltic and less West Asian from the beginning), or because they had already spent quite a bit of time in central Europe, admixing with the people already there, or both, I don't know.
The "Southern" scores aren't that different. (The Bronze Age person has 4 points more.)
BR1 has East Asian, (1.34) but only a trace of Siberian. (.28)
It's reversed for IR1, who has about the same amount of East Asian (1.78), but who has quite a bit more Siberian (6.55) If these IR Age people came back down from around Andronovo, wouldn't this make sense?
Then I looked at the populaton averages for modern peoples. Here the analysis is "iffier", because I don't know how accurate the Genetiker runs are going to prove to be...
I don't think the French Basque are a good match for any of the ancient samples, but not even for BR1:
Southern 26.8
Atlantic Baltic: 73.2
See Ed. below
Here are the French:
Atlantic Baltic 69.7
Southern 19.9
West Asian 10.4
When compared to the BR1 sample, they lost 5 points of Atlantic Baltic, gained 4 points of Southern, and gained 5 points of West Asian. All the minority East Asian and Siberian is gone.
So, did both Metal Ages Waves reach France, or is subsequent migration during the Roman era, for example.
Just for comparison, here the scores for the Hungarians, who were in the path of both waves:
Atlantic Baltic 69.2
Southern 14.7
West Asian 14.5
Siberian 1.5
E.Asian .1
S. Asian .1
Could we say that there's perhaps more influence from BR1, but that both Metal Ages migrations had an impact here?
Now let's look at the English:
Atlantic Baltic 76.6
Southern 13.1
West Asian 9.7
For Southern, they have 7 points less than the French, but only 3 points less than BR1. They have about the same Atlantic Baltic as the Bronze Age sample, which makes sense because they have less Southern. Tey have about the same amount of West Asian, which is about 5 points more than BR1.
Finally, the Bulgarians:
Atlantic Baltic 54.3
Southern 22.7
West Asian 21.5
Siberian 1.1
East Asian .4
The higher "Southern" impacts all the other numbers, of course, but can we see a mixture here as well but perhaps more balanced in terms of the two migrations, i.e. slightly more Iron Age influence?
Just a reminder that all these "Admixture" components obscure the levels of the 3 ancient civilizations within them, except perhaps for "Southern".
The K-7b Atlantic Baltic, for example, is about 1/3 Atlantic Med, 2/3 North Euro from the K=12b run.
I did these on the run, so if anyone looks at them and I got something wrong, please correct as necessary.
If I have time later maybe I'll fo the same thing for K-12b or Globe 13.
This is not supposed to be gospel, folks, just give us clues.
Ed. The French Basque are not a perfect fit, but not bad.
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