Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

[LeBrok]

In Season 2 of Tyrant Caliphate (ISIS) attacks the kingdom. Kind of eerie to watch it. Current Near East political situation extrapolated on fictional characters. Almost too close for comfort. It adds an extra emotional level. It never happened to me before.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/tyrant/s02/

 

[Angela]

In Season 2 of Tyrant Caliphate (ISIS) attacks the kingdom. Kind of eerie to watch it. Current Near East political situation extrapolated on fictional characters. Almost too close for comfort. It adds an extra emotional level. It never happened to me before.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/tyrant/s02/

I've been watching it faithfully. Excellent.

 

[Piro Ilir]

First thing I wish to say is: I hope as soon as possible that they should be free.

 

[Arame]

Kurds are the major force in anti-ISIS coalition. And now Turkey bombs Kurdish positions.

The Turkish PM’s office has said their fighter jets bombed seven militant Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) targets in Northern Iraq, AFP reported. Kurdish forces have been battling the Islamic State militants for months.

https://www.rt.com/news/310721-turkey-attacks-isis-kurds/

 

[LeBrok]

Kurds are the major force in anti-ISIS coalition. And now Turkey bombs Kurdish positions.





https://www.rt.com/news/310721-turkey-attacks-isis-kurds/

That's right. Turkey is scared of rise of Kurdistan and will use every opportunity to disrupt the process. I'm just stunned that they unleashed their bombing campaign at PKK so aggressively. This might spill into a domestic war in Turkey again. Quite an opposite of what Turkeys goal is. Unless their true goal is to provoke the war with PKK, and use this pretext to send Turkish army to occupy Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan?

 

[Yetos]

That's right. Turkey is scared of rise of Kurdistan and will use every opportunity to disrupt the process. I'm just stunned that they unleashed their bombing campaign at PKK so aggressively. This might spill into a domestic war in Turkey again. Quite an opposite of what Turkeys goal is. Unless their true goal is to provoke the war with PKK, and use this pretext to send Turkish army to occupy Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan?

I think they use the old map of terrorists in order to benefit,
I do not know which is their main purpose,,
but if continoues or advance in bigger scale soon Turkey will face problems,

I can not say something,
Geopolitical strategies on oil production and roads,
well we will see soon,
simply more immigrants to EU for now,

 

[LeBrok]

I think they use the old map of terrorists in order to benefit,
I do not know which is their main purpose,,
but if continoues or advance in bigger scale soon Turkey will face problems,

We might have bigger mess in Near East for some time. We have few big players now involved in this conflict: Turkey, Iran and Saudis. If they are not careful we might have fully fledged war of Shia against Sunni throughout the whole region.

I can not say something,
Geopolitical strategies on oil production and roads,
well we will see soon,
simply more immigrants to EU for now,

You are right with this one. More emigrants are coming. Time to open a business in Greece. You will have an army of cheap laborers from all the emigrants.

 

[Yetos]

You are right with this one. More emigrants are coming. Time to open a business in Greece. You will have an army of cheap laborers from all the emigrants.

yeah good idea,
I will buy a truck and make hidden places to hide them,
then I will pass them through Calais tunnel,
I will be rich,
but I will be a slave merchant, and this is bad,

 

[LeBrok]

yeah good idea,
I will buy a truck and make hidden places to hide them,
then I will pass them through Calais tunnel,
I will be rich,
but I will be a slave merchant, and this is bad,

I think your dark side showed up again. I was talking about being a businessman and employing people in a need. Both sides would benefit.

 

[Yetos]

I think your dark side showed up again. I was talking about being a businessman and employing people in a need. Both sides would benefit.

and I was humoring,
you see the most easy business is to make bad jobs,
anyway it is not a good time to start business in Greece today
either for economical reason and unstability,
either for the possible war,

anyway, I am thinking to go back to business as before, and quit my temporary job,
but will be after 2-3 years and according the economical relations of state with ECB,

 

[DuPidh]

That's right. Turkey is scared of rise of Kurdistan and will use every opportunity to disrupt the process. I'm just stunned that they unleashed their bombing campaign at PKK so aggressively. This might spill into a domestic war in Turkey again. Quite an opposite of what Turkeys goal is. Unless their true goal is to provoke the war with PKK, and use this pretext to send Turkish army to occupy Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan?

Any Turkish-Kurdish war inside Turkey at its best would mean a Pyrrhic victory for Kurd's. Turkey is a military power and can do a lot of damage. It can cleanse for good Kurds where they are not a pronounced majority. Turkey has a lot of support in USA and Europe. If they start to behave bad in the war nobody can stop them.

 

[Piro Ilir]

Kurds are the major force in anti-ISIS coalition. And now Turkey bombs Kurdish positions.





https://www.rt.com/news/310721-turkey-attacks-isis-kurds/

Erdogan will face soon the new elections. All this is happening because he wants to stay in power as long as possible. He is using all his resources to win the new elections.

 

[Rethel]

How large is REALLY population of Kurds in Turkey?

And how many of them want to create independent Kurdistan?

 

[Alan]

The turkish police, in cooperation with ISIS figthers have started to bombard a Kurdish city, Silopi inside it's own borders.
state of Emergency has been declared after three young Kurds (one of them son of a deputy of the Kurdish party among them) were killed by Turkish Police/ISIS. So much to Turkeys fight against ISIS.

Sure thats why not a single suicide attack has yet started in Turkey against Turkish officials or police like the billions happening in Iraq and Syria. Only a blind fool believes that Turkey is fighting ISIS.

Isis is spreading around this paper at homes in the city which says "this flag will controll the Southeast".

Turkish army has started burning down Kurdish homes very muclh 80s style. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_villages_depopulated_by_Turkey

This is Silopi in Southeast Turkey and not Syria or Kobane.

It seems like the Turkish government is for an all out war on Kurds. The Kurdish youth has started to arm themselves and it seems to go into Civil war. So much for the peace process: It was never the intention of the government.

Not good, really not good.

 

[Alan]

Some of the Turkish Police members in Urfa (to which the 2 Officers belonged who got killed by PKK in revenge) are shouting towards Kobane Protestors, "Long live ISIS".
So much to the "innocent Turkish police murdered by PKK". Whole Urfa is full of ISIS fighters it is a crossroad for them towards Kobane. The Police is well known by the locals to cooperate with ISIS.

 

[LeBrok]

The turkish police, in cooperation with ISIS figthers have started to bombard a Kurdish city, Silopi inside it's own borders.
state of Emergency has been declared after three young Kurds (one of them son of a deputy of the Kurdish party among them) were killed by Turkish Police/ISIS. So much to Turkeys fight against ISIS.

Sure thats why not a single suicide attack has yet started in Turkey against Turkish officials or police like the billions happening in Iraq and Syria. Only a blind fool believes that Turkey is fighting ISIS.




Not good, really not good.

Exactly what I said reading your post. Not good, really not good. I was hoping for a little bit more time for Kurdistan to come about before Turkey would get scared and attack. Not good.
I didn't expect Turkey would take initiative so fast. It is so hard to predict the outcome. It might backfire in their face.

 

[LeBrok]

Some of the Turkish Police members in Urfa (to which the 2 Officers belonged who got killed by PKK in revenge) are shouting towards Kobane Protestors, "Long live ISIS".
So much to the "innocent Turkish police murdered by PKK". Whole Urfa is full of ISIS fighters it is a crossroad for them towards Kobane. The Police is well known by the locals to cooperate with ISIS.

I wonder if Turkey, or Erdogan, is dreaming about taking over ISIS revolution and become new Ottoman/Caliphate empire in Near East. The connection is Sunni religion perhaps? At least Turkey feels some unity with ISIS in this regard.

 

[Boreas]

How large is REALLY population of Kurds in Turkey?

And how many of them want to create independent Kurdistan?

15 million (one of the max guess)

Wanting Independent Kurdistan is not option which is really speaking loud? so It is hard to say something.

 

[Boreas]

ALAN

Will you also mention about which side broke the ceasefire?

 

[Alan]

15 million (one of the max guess)

18 milion it was 14 milion 20 years ago. The Population of Turkey has grown since than by at least 5-6 mio. Kurds with the higher birth rate surely at least 50% of this.