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Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

Let's hope it's a good start. :)
Was it a direct shipment or is it still going through Baghdad?
Hassake / Cizire is a Kurdish Canton in Rojava (Syrian / Western Kurdistan).


Kurds don't have own weapon factories yet, so we need weapons and we will accepts weapons from anybody who wants to sell them to us. We have gold, oil and natural gas..


We need surface to air missiles against Turkey. We have some when there will be a big war against Turkey, but we need more.


The US is promising weapons for YPG/YPJ .


This is the beginning :


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Let's hope it's a good start. :)
Was it a direct shipment or is it still going through Baghdad?

It was for Kurds in Syria and direct shipping.
 

I don't hate Persia, not because Iran is Shia, but because Persians are Kurdish relatives by DNA, language and culture.

DNA :grin:

You are Kurdificated son of R1a and I am Turkificated.
 
DNA :grin:

You are Kurdificated son of R1a and I am Turkificated.

Kurdificated son of R1a ? How sense does that make? Or maybe you mean R1a is Turkish? Even though I don't follow his logic, I think he means aDNA.
 
Kurdificated son of R1a ? How sense does that make? Or maybe you mean R1a is Turkish? Even though I don't follow his logic, I think he means aDNA.

Big disappointment :annoyed:. Try to use your imagination to find different bad meanings under my words!!!

Maybe you believe Adam was Kurds and first R1a is also Kurd. If you can't catch the point, this should be only result in your head

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Big disappointment :annoyed:. Try to use your imagination to find different bad meanings under my words!!!

Maybe you believe Adam was Kurds and first R1a is also Kurd. If you can't catch the point, this should be only result in your head

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YOu have lost the point long time ago. You don't seem to understand how yDNA works. You probably think R1a reached him with a time mashine :laughing:

It simply means an ancestor of this R1a survived all the way to modern times nothing more nothing less, has nothing to do with Kurdification or who or what could he have been before being kurdified :laughing: oh man.
 
Maybe you believe Adam was Kurds and first R1a is also Kurd. If you can't catch the point, this should be only result in your head
I'm R1a*, most people came from R1a1, but my R1a* evolved from old R1a. My R1a* is very old and one of the most archaic one. And I'm Kurd.

Are you also R1a* and don't belong to R1a1? If that is the case you will be one those lost sons of Kurdish soil, that would be interesting.
 
yes he is a tyrant
and the west promoted the mess which is now present in the Middle East
I don't know where it will end, maybe it is a good thing this tyrant is getting involved

today I read the Syrian Curds are accused of crime wars
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...lys-razing-of-villages-amounts-to-war-crimes/
well, maybe Amnesty International is going to solve the Middle East crisis?
AI fails to see the whole picture, and by trying to defend some idle principles they are guilty of letting murder and genocide continue in the area
Why the West promoted that mess?[emoji45] . Who was the one bombing civilians in Aleppo and at other parts of Syria? ! Assad, not the west. Who was against the no flying zone over Syria? ! Putin. ISIS started in Syria only afterward the massacres made by the terrorist regime of Assad. Terrorism brings only terrorism.
 
This is no true. No point for discussion.

Russia is 100000000x times more powerful than Turkey.


I'm not a Muslim, never was a Muslim and NEVER will be Muslim. Death is better than to become a Muslim. I don't like Islam in general, be it Sunni be it Shia. The fact is that Sunni killed much more of my people. Turks are Sunni, Daesh are Sunni etc.

I'm an Ezdi Kurd. Before Islam most Kurmanji Kurds were Ezdi by their religion. I'm still the original Kurd.

Our Vatican or our Mecca is Lalish. Holy Lalish is in Shexan area near Dohuk, South Kurdistan.

According to us our religion, the Yezidism, is at least 8000 years old. And as long as Ezdi folks do exist they lived non-stop on their ancestral homeland in Shengal, Shexan, Dohuk, Mosul etc. We lost Mosul to Muslims. But we still live on our ancestral homeland what we call Ezdixan (home of Ezdi Kurds). Ezdixan is part of Greater Kurdistan.

The Yezidism = religion of at least 8000 years old !!
Ezdi Kurds = people (Medes / proto-Kurds)
Ezdixan = geographic region (Shengal + Shexan/Lalish + Dohuk). The holy place, home of Xode Shems & Melek Taus.
Russia is not denying the crash down of that war plane, so probably it is true that the turkey shoot down it.

Yes, maybe Russia is more powerful than turkey, but this not mean that the turkey didn't shoot down one of their warplanes.

So Ezdi is a geographic term, right! What kind of religion is that anyway, I never heard about that. It's monotheistic or polytheism?
 
I was born in the USSR, it's my birthplace. And I had a VERY good time there. I even lived for some years in Ukraine and Moscow. Of course I'm a little bit pro-Russia.

Has nothing to do with religion. I don't like Sunni Islam, but I don't like Shia Islam either. I'm Ezdi and will be aways Ezdi !


I don't hate Persia, not because Iran is Shia, but because Persians are Kurdish relatives by DNA, language and culture.

Persians are closer to my Kurdish culture than any other people in the world.
Yes, and either you like Iran because it's the allied of Russia. [emoji6]
 
Russia is not denying the crash down of that war plane, so probably it is true that the turkey shoot down it.
Lol, Russia is not going to react on any stupid baseless claim made by others about them. Russians are not as retard as those who make retard propaganda. Russians are not going to lower them to those retard claims.

If that was the case, Russia would bomb Turkey to a stone age already..
 
Lol, Russia is not going to react on any stupid baseless claim made by others about them. Russians are not as retard as those who make retard propaganda. Russians are not going to lower them to those retard claims.

If that was the case, Russia would bomb Turkey to a stone age already..
To a stone age? .... I really doubt. I don't think Russia has such a powerful war machine.

The crash of that aeroplane is not a routine news. If that was not true, they were gonna deny that. You think Russia is gonna bomb turkey just for only one aeroplane! No way
 
yes he is a tyrant
and the west promoted the mess which is now present in the Middle East
I don't know where it will end, maybe it is a good thing this tyrant is getting involved

today I read the Syrian Curds are accused of crime wars
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...lys-razing-of-villages-amounts-to-war-crimes/
well, maybe Amnesty International is going to solve the Middle East crisis?
AI fails to see the whole picture, and by trying to defend some idle principles they are guilty of letting murder and genocide continue in the area

Exactly not only that this accusation came up from Amnesty International one year ago and this seems to be exactly the same article. Not only do the fail to see the whole picture, they also fail to provide clear evidences.

If someone ready the article entirely just like last time it gets obvious that Amenisty International is basing their accusation on statements on some radical Arab "rebel" groups, they didn't even cared to investigate this they simply took up the accusation. This makes me wonder, just like last time if Amnesty International is not payed by rich Arab countries to spray this accusations.

Last time when they came with the same accusation, PYD made a statement and Arab residence who were interviewed by international news outlets falsified this accusation.

Ironicly this accusation came exactly during a time when Arab settlers from Tal Abyad, who were settled there by ISIS in Kurdish homes fled towards the Turkish border when the Kurdish forces entered the region. Amnesty International came with this argumentation just like a firing gun almost like in support for ISIS (or on command of an Arab country and Turkey that is supportive for ISIS) the accusation that "Kurdish forces are trying to ethnicly cleansen the era. But did they bother to write the same when these Arab settlers took the homes of Kurds when ISIS came? Since when is it ethnicly cleansining, when Kurds take back what was taken from them? Can anyone seriously trust any of the Arabic rebel groups of Syria?


Amnesty International is a big joke.
 
we should never ever trust putin, he betrays and switched allies so fast. Used to be allied with turkey, now increases alliance with israelis. erdogan and putin used to be dictator bff's. We can trust america, because they will always be there for help. Republicans give way more help but hell even democrats help us more than russia.
 
I think someone is having a double account, and play political games,
 
we should never ever trust putin, he betrays and switched allies so fast. Used to be allied with turkey, now increases alliance with israelis. erdogan and putin used to be dictator bff's. We can trust america, because they will always be there for help. Republicans give way more help but hell even democrats help us more than russia.

Russia does what they consider best for their country I agree Russia is less "help orientated " than the US but they are not very different in their approach on foreign politics to US.

As I said the main reason Russia entered the Syrian war official has not much to do with ISIS, they even acknowledged that recently (Otherwise they would have reacted much earlier) but helping the weakned Assad army. Recently Russia had talks with Saudi Arabia and it was said after this talks from official Russian side "Saudi Arabia and we have similar goals for Syria". Really?

Putin and Saudi defense minister meet in Russia, agree on common goals in Syria
https://www.rt.com/news/318324-putin-saudi-goals-syria/

Wasn't the main argument of Anti US peeps that they are allied with Saudi Arabia, an dictatorship as bad as IS. But suddenly I don't hear a word anymore. Now seriously as I said in my first comment. It doesn't seem to matter if someone is allied to Dictatorships or someone is bombing what seems to matter is who is allied and who is bombing. Is it my preffered group or is it the group I hate based on my political ideology?

People who think Russia is there to rescue the whole world and it all would be much different if Russia was in US position need to freakn stop wet dreaming. Russia and US have not much difference when it comes to their foreign policy, it's all about what benefits me most.

However as I posted earlier. Both side 1. Can't afford to bomb Kurds. Simply cause they wouldn't have any explanation for that. 2. Both sides are not interested in bombing the Kurds, obviously if both sides have acknowledged that you are a good group, than you are doing all right.
3. Both sides want to win the Kurds for themselves for many reasons, some of them reaching even outside the current Syrian borders. Kurds are becoming an much more important factor. A factor both sides want to react to as early as possible.

4. Both sides have actually a rather "positive" (from their perspective) historical experience with Kurds. They were close allies and it was definitely not the Kurds who betrayed them. So even if this is rather a smaller factor, I think they feel a historic responsibility for the current situation of the Kurds (what they should).

As I said I don't think, and it doesn't seem like Russia will attack the Kurds. Russia has already offered the Syrian Kurds their help but with this comes that Kurds would need to accept Assad and I am not sure if the Kurds are ready to trust Assad after all what happened.

The current situation we are in, neither Russia nor the West is hostile towards us. As long as they don't attack us or support groups to attack us I am fine with the situation.
Actually the fact that Russia attacked Syrian "Rebel groups"/ISIS/AL Qaida and offered us to come on their side with Assad, forced the US to cooperate closer with us because it showed the Syrian Rebel groups without our help are nothing. So all this is currently playing in our hands and if we are smart we will benefit from this.

This is why Turkey is so scared and furiously telling both US and Russia not to arm us. They fear we could widen our territory towards the Mediterranean. Reaching the Mediterranean would destroy all the dirty Neo Ottoman fantasies because of obvious reasons, you can't bully a group who can defend themselves.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/w...us-and-russia-over-help-for-syrian-kurds.html
 
from what I read today it seems that in the war theatre, actors play a different role last days,

as it seems Turkey shut down a Russian spy drone, and not a war plane, as it was believed,

Russia is not about to give guns to Kurds,

and Russia play the dirty role of USA,
at about over 90 airstrike manage to destroy more than 80 DAESH tanks made in USA that IS took from Iraqi warehouses,
and a modern strong artillery Battery owned by DAESH (no identification of origin)

Russian seem to be the more effective at disarming DAESH modern weaponry, and restore forces equation, that was disturbed with made in USA weaponry of the last,
but does not show any willingness to suply Kurds of Syrria with modern weapons,

on the other coach, the silence of USA rather show an agreement with Russian acts, on bombing and disarming DAESH heavy forces,
as it seems DAESH was a pain in the .... for them also,


I THINK STABILIZATION OF FORCES AND LAND IS SOON TO COME THERE, BEFORE CHINA or EUENTERS THE GAME,
IF CHINA or EU ENTERS IT WOULD BE MORE COMPLICATED,

the big gain is for Turkey,
Erdogan needed a victory after all that mess and Berlin through EU gave him partial control of Aegean,
that means that international sea laws (6-12 miles) in Aegean are not any more effective, and Turkey has the right (given by EU) to sunk ships in the Aegean,
that passed silently in Greece, which seems to show tremendous annex of late EU positions about immigration and Turkey partial control of Aegean,
it seems Greece is showing tremendous annex, which might had to do with economical problems, or with weak politicians,
but the army is disapointed,

after the EU comission Turkey gained 3 things

1 Visa is not nessesary to travel EU for Turkish citizens !!!!!!!!

2 Turkey gained the right to put NOTAM (forbiden passage) in Greek FIR and sea borders
that is a dangerous situation since since speacial air corrdors like g-33 and N130 are in the Aegean,
meaning that Turkey is offcially covered by EU commision to shut down planes even civilian that pass above Aegean, or sunk ships when sets a NOTAM,
NOTAM is a guide with latitudes that forbits any passage from area, and every move is considered hostile action,

3 A total amount of more than 3 billion EΥΡΩ help to military and refugge actions


PS
after all these, can someone still deny that USA and Russia are not cooperating?



PS 2

in the photo is the first Greek from around 75 who volunteer with Kurdish forces against DAESH
and the first Greek who was KIA


o-MATSON-570.jpg
 
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from what I read today it seems that in the war theatre, actors play a different role last days,

as it seems Turkey shut down a Russian spy drone, and not a war plane, as it was believed,

Russia is not about to give guns to Kurds,

and Russia play the dirty role of USA,
at about over 90 airstrike manage to destroy more than 80 DAESH tanks made in USA that IS took from Iraqi warehouses,
and a modern strong artillery Battery owned by DAESH (no identification of origin)

Russian seem to be the more effective at disarming DAESH modern weaponry, and restore forces equation, that was disturbed with made in USA weaponry of the last,
but does not show any willingness to suply Kurds of Syrria with modern weapons,

on the other coach, the silence of USA rather show an agreement with Russian acts, on bombing and disarming DAESH heavy forces,
as it seems DAESH was a pain in the .... for them also,


I THINK STABILIZATION OF FORCES AND LAND IS SOON TO COME THERE, BEFORE CHINA or EUENTERS THE GAME,
IF CHINA or EU ENTERS IT WOULD BE MORE COMPLICATED,

the big gain is for Turkey,
Erdogan needed a victory after all that mess and Berlin through EU gave him partial control of Aegean,
that means that international sea laws (6-12 miles) in Aegean are not any more effective, and Turkey has the right (given by EU) to sunk ships in the Aegean,
that passed silently in Greece, which seems to show tremendous annex of late EU positions about immigration and Turkey partial control of Aegean,
it seems Greece is showing tremendous annex, which might had to do with economical problems, or with weak politicians,
but the army is disapointed,

after the EU comission Turkey gained 3 things

1 Visa is not nessesary to travel EU for Turkish citizens !!!!!!!!

2 Turkey gained the right to put NOTAM (forbiden passage) in Greek FIR and sea borders
that is a dangerous situation since since speacial air corrdors like g-33 and N130 are in the Aegean,
meaning that Turkey is offcially covered by EU commision to shut down planes even civilian that pass above Aegean, or sunk ships when sets a NOTAM,
NOTAM is a guide with latitudes that forbits any passage from area, and every move is considered hostile action,

3 A total amount of more than 3 billion EΥΡΩ help to military and refugge actions


PS
after all these, can someone still deny that USA and Russia are not cooperating?



PS 2

in the photo is the first Greek from around 75 who volunteer with Kurdish forces against DAESH
and the first Greek who was KIA


o-MATSON-570.jpg
Russia is there for only one reason: helping Assad's regime. Why they should help Kurds? !
 
after all these, can someone still deny that USA and Russia are not cooperating?
Russia always desired to cooperate with the west, but only on par, that is no secret. That's why they kept calling the US "our partners" (not "our masters" or "our enemies") even during the height of anti-russian hostility last year. It was ridiculous. Now since Russia's actions and alliances in the middle east, Obama grudgingly had to admit the failure of their strategy (whichever true goal they had) and were forced to take more clear and open position.
Also business cooperations are very common even among war enemies. That's no conspiracy, just maximum profit.
I also don't think that Russia is particularly interested in strengthening the Kurds.
 
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