GEDMatch HarappaWorld Gedmatch, post and compare your admixtures to ancient and contemporary.

Angela · Jan 7, 2017

If someone wants to know how much "hunter-gatherer" they have, they should be using a calculator where the reference samples are something like Loschbour and Karelia. (Actually, all our ancestors were once hunter-gatherers, including the ones we inherited from "farmers". It's just that some of them invented agriculture.)

You certainly can't use clusters modal in modern populations today. North east Europeans, for example, already have some "farmer", as well as "Caucasian" from their Yamnaya ancestry.

LeBrok · Jan 7, 2017

This is all I have so far. Please, whoever posts, with intention to be used in our European stats, make sure your parents and grand parents came from the same region or a country.

Polish		Sicilian		Netherlands
LeBrok		Joey D		Northerner
Population		Population		Population
S-Indian	1	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-
Baloch	7	Baloch	9	Baloch	9
Caucasian	10	Caucasian	38	Caucasian	6
NE-Euro	57	NE-Euro	15	NE-Euro	55
SE-Asian	1	SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	-
Siberian	1	Siberian	-	Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-
Papuan	-	Papuan	1	Papuan	1
American	-	American	-	American	-
Beringian	-	Beringian	-	Beringian	-
Mediterranean	22	Mediterranean	25	Mediterranean	29
SW-Asian	1	SW-Asian	11	SW-Asian	-
San	-	San	-	San	-
E-African	-	E-African	1	E-African	-
Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-
W-African	-	W-African	1	W-African	-

LeBrok · Jan 7, 2017

Europeans	Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Poland	LeBrok	1	7	10	57	1	1	0	0	0	0	22	1	0	0	0	0
Netherlands	Northerner	0	9	6	55	0	0	0	1	0	0	29	0	0	0	0	0
Sicily	Joey D	0	9	38	15	0	0	0	1	0	0	25	11	0	1	0	1
Albania	Dibran	0	5	30	27	0	0	0	0	0	0	30	8	0	0	0	0

More volunteers please.

Men and women, kids and grandparents. Just remember to state region or a country of birth of your parents.

LeBrok · Jan 7, 2017

Northener said:
And a NW European Result (mine):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.26
2 Mediterranean 28.6
3 Baloch 8.79
4 Caucasian 6.09
5 Papuan 0.77
6 S-Indian 0.49

Ok it are just four figures, but it looks like if in Northern Europe, the HG component is about 55%. To the west the Caucasian component drops down. In my case even below Baloch! Why does the Baloch component pops up higher than the Caucasian? And wat is very remarkable that my Med. is percentages higher than that of Joey (Sicily) or the Ashkenazim! Any explanations? Guesses?

Baloch is from EHG and Iranian Farmers/CHG mix, both came from East with Indo Europeans/Corded Ware/Celts and Greeks.
Main source of Caucasian was EEF in Europe. IE brought some too, but they rather diluted what was already there than added.
Mediterranean was present in WHG, especially the ones closer to the Med Sea, later some more came with EEF farmers. The highest level so far was in Neolithic Spain up to 60%. Your increased Med might point to some relationship with Spain and area. Netherlands in general or you personal. With more contemporary European samples we should know better soon.

Northener · Jan 7, 2017

LeBrok said:
Baloch is from EHG and Iranian Farmers/CHG mix, both came from East with Indo Europeans/Corded Ware/Celts and Greeks.
Main source of Caucasian was EEF in Europe. IE brought some too, but they rather diluted what was already there than added.
Mediterranean was present in WHG, especially the ones closer to the Med Sea, later some more came with EEF farmers. The highest level so far was in Neolithic Spain up to 60%. Your increased Med might point to some relationship with Spain and area. Netherlands in general or you personal. With more contemporary European samples we should know better soon.

Thank you for your information!!!Gives more insight. I've aDNA which is according to DNA land 97% Northern European. According to my genealogical information all Northern Dutch and a bunch of NW Germans. 2% is Mediterranen Island. That's my Y-DNA E-V22 (I suppose). White ravens in NW Europe. The best guess is that's from a raid in Friesland (1586) of the Spanish army. This consisted of soldiers recruited from places in Southern Europe whit some more E-V22 namely 5% in stead of the average Southern 1%, these are Andalusia, Asturias, Sicily, Naples. But this is a small line from 12 generations ago. But left most probably his mark on my Y-DNA! (But may be there is another cause, still a mystery). But this has not that much impact on my aDNA tot explain a substantial higher Med.. So probably the Mediterranen EEF is in the Netherlands somewhat higher than in Eastern Europe? But also Sicily....that looks weird.

Pax Augusta · Jan 7, 2017

LeBrok said:
More volunteers please. Men and women, kids and grandparents. Just remember to state region or a country of birth of your parents.

If it's ok with you I can post two or three results of Italians who have 4 grandparents from same region.

Sile · Jan 7, 2017

All from North-East Italy .............including parents , grandparents and great grandparents

my father

#

	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	33.55
2	Mediterranean	32.2
3	Caucasian	19.5
4	Baloch	6.87
5	SW-Asian	6.2
6	S-Indian	0.82
7	SE-Asian	0.54
8	Pygmy	0.32

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	italian (hgdp)	6.88
2	romanian-a (behar)	10.45
3	tuscan (hapmap)	11.67
4	tuscan (hgdp)	12
5	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	12.11
6	tuscan (1000genomes)	12.43
7	french (hgdp)	13.18
8	spaniard (behar)	13.73
9	spaniard (1000genomes)	14.86
10	hungarian (behar)	16.76
11	slovenian (xing)	18.73
12	utahn-white (1000genomes)	20.94

.......................................................................................

myself

#

	Population	Percent
1	Mediterranean	32.49
2	NE-Euro	32.28
3	Caucasian	20.13
4	Baloch	8.21
5	SW-Asian	5.89
6	S-Indian	0.85
7	W-African	0.15

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	italian (hgdp)	6.28
2	tuscan (hapmap)	10.65
3	romanian-a (behar)	10.83
4	tuscan (hgdp)	11
5	tuscan (1000genomes)	11.47
6	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	12.37
7	spaniard (behar)	13.8
8	french (hgdp)	14.03
9	spaniard (1000genomes)	14.94
10	hungarian (behar)	17.96
11	slovenian (xing)	19.97

..........................................................

one of my sons

#

	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	35.62
2	Mediterranean	31.79
3	Caucasian	19.42
4	Baloch	8.18
5	SW-Asian	4.34
6	NE-Asian	0.38
7	Papuan	0.17
8	W-African	0.11

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	italian (hgdp)	8.7
2	romanian-a (behar)	10.06
3	french (hgdp)	11.69
4	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	11.93
5	tuscan (hapmap)	13.5
6	tuscan (hgdp)	13.81
7	tuscan (1000genomes)	14.26
8	spaniard (behar)	14.32
9	hungarian (behar)	14.76
10	spaniard (1000genomes)	15.62
11	slovenian (xing)	16.82
12	utahn-white (1000genomes)	19

............................................................

my wife

#

	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	35.15
2	Mediterranean	32.16
3	Caucasian	20.17
4	Baloch	7.11
5	SW-Asian	4.17
6	NE-Asian	0.58
7	Papuan	0.46
8	W-African	0.16
9	Siberian	0.06

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	italian (hgdp)	7.8
2	romanian-a (behar)	9.92
3	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	11.6
4	french (hgdp)	12.35
5	tuscan (hapmap)	12.67
6	tuscan (hgdp)	12.99
7	tuscan (1000genomes)	13.45
8	spaniard (behar)	14.26
9	hungarian (behar)	15.43
10	spaniard (1000genomes)	15.54
11	slovenian (xing)	17.44
12	utahn-white (1000genomes)	19.84

Pax Augusta · Jan 7, 2017

Sile said:
All from North-East Italy .............including parents , grandparents and great grandparents

my father

#

Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 33.55
2 Mediterranean 32.2
3 Caucasian 19.5
4 Baloch 6.87
5 SW-Asian 6.2
6 S-Indian 0.82
7 SE-Asian 0.54
8 Pygmy 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 6.88
2 romanian-a (behar) 10.45
3 tuscan (hapmap) 11.67
4 tuscan (hgdp) 12
5 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.11
6 tuscan (1000genomes) 12.43
7 french (hgdp) 13.18
8 spaniard (behar) 13.73
9 spaniard (1000genomes) 14.86
10 hungarian (behar) 16.76
11 slovenian (xing) 18.73
12 utahn-white (1000genomes) 20.94

.......................................................................................

myself

#

Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 32.49
2 NE-Euro 32.28
3 Caucasian 20.13
4 Baloch 8.21
5 SW-Asian 5.89
6 S-Indian 0.85
7 W-African 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 6.28
2 tuscan (hapmap) 10.65
3 romanian-a (behar) 10.83
4 tuscan (hgdp) 11
5 tuscan (1000genomes) 11.47
6 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.37
7 spaniard (behar) 13.8
8 french (hgdp) 14.03
9 spaniard (1000genomes) 14.94
10 hungarian (behar) 17.96
11 slovenian (xing) 19.97

..........................................................

one of my sons

#

Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 35.62
2 Mediterranean 31.79
3 Caucasian 19.42
4 Baloch 8.18
5 SW-Asian 4.34
6 NE-Asian 0.38
7 Papuan 0.17
8 W-African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 8.7
2 romanian-a (behar) 10.06
3 french (hgdp) 11.69
4 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 11.93
5 tuscan (hapmap) 13.5
6 tuscan (hgdp) 13.81
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 14.26
8 spaniard (behar) 14.32
9 hungarian (behar) 14.76
10 spaniard (1000genomes) 15.62
11 slovenian (xing) 16.82
12 utahn-white (1000genomes) 19

............................................................

my wife

#

Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 35.15
2 Mediterranean 32.16
3 Caucasian 20.17
4 Baloch 7.11
5 SW-Asian 4.17
6 NE-Asian 0.58
7 Papuan 0.46
8 W-African 0.16
9 Siberian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 7.8
2 romanian-a (behar) 9.92
3 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 11.6
4 french (hgdp) 12.35
5 tuscan (hapmap) 12.67
6 tuscan (hgdp) 12.99
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 13.45
8 spaniard (behar) 14.26
9 hungarian (behar) 15.43
10 spaniard (1000genomes) 15.54
11 slovenian (xing) 17.44
12 utahn-white (1000genomes) 19.84

North-East Italy is now covered.

LeBrok · Jan 7, 2017

Pax Augusta said:
If it's ok with you I can post two or three results of Italians who have 4 grandparents from same region.

Of course, indicate regions too.

Europeans	Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Poland	LeBrok	1	7	10	57	1	1	0	0	0	0	22	1	0	0	0	0
Netherlands	Northerner	0	9	6	55	0	0	0	1	0	0	29	0	0	0	0	0
Sicily	Joey D	0	9	38	15	0	0	0	1	0	0	25	11	0	1	0	1
Albania	Dibran	0	5	30	27	0	0	0	0	0	0	30	8	0	0	0	0
Italy, NE	Multiple	1	7	20	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	32	5	0	0	0	0

Northener · Jan 7, 2017

LeBrok said:
Baloch is from EHG and Iranian Farmers/CHG mix, both came from East with Indo Europeans/Corded Ware/Celts and Greeks.
Main source of Caucasian was EEF in Europe. IE brought some too, but they rather diluted what was already there than added.
Mediterranean was present in WHG, especially the ones closer to the Med Sea, later some more came with EEF farmers. The highest level so far was in Neolithic Spain up to 60%. Your increased Med might point to some relationship with Spain and area. Netherlands in general or you personal. With more contemporary European samples we should know better soon.

LeBrok compared with others it looks like typical N(W)European:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.26
2 Mediterranean 28.60
3 Baloch 8.79
4 Caucasian 6.09

Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 n-european @ 3.403369
2 utahn-white @ 4.032901
3 utahn-white @ 6.361325
4 british @ 7.447022
5 orcadian @ 7.508000
6 slovenian @ 11.829170
7 hungarian @ 11.970489
8 ukranian @ 13.656387
9 french @ 15.719910
10 belorussian @ 16.431705
11 mordovian @ 18.768982
12 russian @ 19.622629
13 russian @ 20.481249
14 lithuanian @ 21.314024
15 serbian @ 23.040863
16 romanian-a @ 28.488033
17 chuvash @ 28.780073
18 spaniard @ 28.987589
19 spaniard @ 29.979937
20 bulgarian @ 30.920256

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% n-european +50% n-european @ 3.403369

Hauteville · Jan 8, 2017

Sicilian results

1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.05
2 Mediterranean 25.06
3 NE-Euro 17.84
4 SW-Asian 12.38
5 Baloch 8.57
6 E-African 1.49
7 SE-Asian 0.46
8 Siberian 0.07
9 Papuan 0.05
10 W-African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 3.86
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 3.88
3 sephardic-jew (behar) 10.07
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 10.99
5 tuscan (hgdp) 11.62
6 morocco-jew (behar) 11.73
7 tuscan (hapmap) 12.31
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.44
9 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 18.54
10 cypriot (behar) 18.77
11 romanian-a (behar) 19.68
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.82
13 italian (hgdp) 19.95
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.17
15 turk (behar) 21.57
16 lebanese (behar) 21.66
17 turkish (harappa) 22.4
18 lebanese-muslim (haber) 23.96
19 armenian (harappa) 24
20 syrian (behar) 24.1

2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32
2 Mediterranean 28.04
3 NE-Euro 18.25
4 SW-Asian 11.54
5 Baloch 8.31
6 S-Indian 0.76
7 Papuan 0.43
8 E-African 0.38
9 San 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.48
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 6.08
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 8.16
4 tuscan (hgdp) 8.73
5 tuscan (hapmap) 9.34
6 sephardic-jew (behar) 11.47
7 morocco-jew (behar) 12.26
8 italian (hgdp) 16.95
9 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.05
10 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 17.98
11 romanian-a (behar) 18.86
12 cypriot (behar) 21.39
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 22.72
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.1
15 lebanese (behar) 24.49
16 turk (behar) 24.52
17 romanian-b (behar) 24.66
18 turkish (harappa) 25.14
19 armenian (harappa) 26.78
20 lebanese-muslim (haber) 26.92

3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.11
2 Mediterranean 28
3 NE-Euro 18.32
4 SW-Asian 12.7
5 Baloch 8.87
6 E-African 1.23
7 W-African 0.61
8 Beringian 0.16
9 SE-Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 6.28
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 6.65
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 8.57
4 tuscan (hgdp) 9.08
5 tuscan (hapmap) 9.64
6 sephardic-jew (behar) 11.73
7 morocco-jew (behar) 11.85
8 italian (hgdp) 16.66
9 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.8
10 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 18.18
11 romanian-a (behar) 18.85
12 cypriot (behar) 22.43
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 23.68
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 24
15 lebanese (behar) 24.53
16 romanian-b (behar) 25.06
17 turk (behar) 25.46
18 turkish (harappa) 25.79
19 syrian (behar) 26.91
20 palestinian (harappa) 26.97

4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 27.85
2 Mediterranean 27.21
3 NE-Euro 19.67
4 SW-Asian 12.49
5 Baloch 9.03
6 E-African 1.11
7 Papuan 0.56
8 W-African 0.54
9 NE-Asian 0.51
10 Pygmy 0.34
11 Beringian 0.34
12 Siberian 0.31
13 San 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 7.2
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 8.2
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 8.3
4 tuscan (hgdp) 8.73
5 tuscan (hapmap) 9.27
6 morocco-jew (behar) 13.48
7 sephardic-jew (behar) 13.63
8 italian (hgdp) 15.58
9 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.8
10 romanian-a (behar) 17.22
11 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 18.2
12 cypriot (behar) 24.38
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 24.61
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.65
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 25.07
16 spaniard (behar) 25.65
17 lebanese (behar) 25.8
18 spaniard (1000genomes) 26.26
19 turk (behar) 26.5
20 turkish (harappa) 26.66

Hauteville · Jan 8, 2017

Mainland Southern Italians results

Puglia

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.34
2 Mediterranean 28.16
3 NE-Euro 15.91
4 SW-Asian 11.53
5 Baloch 7.1
6 Papuan 0.71
7 American 0.62
8 Pygmy 0.34
9 W-African 0.16
10 Siberian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 5.19
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.92
3 sephardic-jew (behar) 9.32
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 10.58
5 morocco-jew (behar) 11.02
6 tuscan (hgdp) 11.15
7 tuscan (hapmap) 11.76
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.32
9 cypriot (behar) 18.3
10 italian (hgdp) 19.68
11 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 20.48
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.24
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.38
14 romanian-a (behar) 21.68
15 lebanese (behar) 22.72
16 turk (behar) 22.82
17 turkish (harappa) 23.82
18 lebanese-muslim (haber) 24.81
19 armenian (harappa) 24.98
20 syrian (behar) 25.48

Basilicata

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.34
2 Mediterranean 26.46
3 NE-Euro 19.21
4 SW-Asian 13.57
5 Baloch 9.02
6 E-African 0.66
7 SE-Asian 0.2
8 W-African 0.19
9 San 0.16
10 Papuan 0.13
11 American 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.27
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 6.03
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 9.32
4 tuscan (hgdp) 9.88
5 tuscan (hapmap) 10.5
6 sephardic-jew (behar) 11.73
7 morocco-jew (behar) 12.15
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 16.99
9 italian (hgdp) 17.41
10 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 17.49
11 romanian-a (behar) 18.21
12 cypriot (behar) 22.06
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 22.93
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.29
15 lebanese (behar) 23.87
16 romanian-b (behar) 24.65
17 turk (behar) 24.74
18 turkish (harappa) 25.07
19 syrian (behar) 26.08
20 palestinian (harappa) 26.21

3 Campania

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.26
2 Mediterranean 24.24
3 SW-Asian 14.72
4 NE-Euro 13.51
5 Baloch 9.92
6 E-African 0.7
7 S-Indian 0.39
8 Pygmy 0.2
9 Papuan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 4.06
2 sephardic-jew (behar) 6.19
3 ashkenazi (harappa) 7.2
4 morocco-jew (behar) 8.9
5 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.64
6 cypriot (behar) 14.56
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 15.53
8 tuscan (hgdp) 16.13
9 tuscan (hapmap) 16.76
10 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.25
11 lebanese (behar) 17.31
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.49
13 turk (behar) 18.83
14 turkish (harappa) 19.23
15 lebanese-muslim (haber) 19.68
16 syrian (behar) 19.9
17 armenian (harappa) 20.04
18 palestinian (harappa) 20.06
19 jordanian (behar) 21.11
20 iraqi-arab (harappa) 21.55

4 Campania bis

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 31.29
2 Mediterranean 28.33
3 NE-Euro 18.65
4 SW-Asian 12.66
5 Baloch 7
6 S-Indian 0.93
7 SE-Asian 0.55
8 Papuan 0.32
9 E-African 0.18
10 San 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 5.1
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 6.05
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 7.88
4 tuscan (hgdp) 8.49
5 tuscan (hapmap) 9.09
6 sephardic-jew (behar) 11.41
7 morocco-jew (behar) 11.89
8 italian (hgdp) 16.49
9 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 17.86
10 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.97
11 romanian-a (behar) 18.7
12 cypriot (behar) 21.9
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 23.84
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 24.16
15 lebanese (behar) 24.8
16 romanian-b (behar) 25.04
17 turk (behar) 25.6
18 turkish (harappa) 26.23
19 syrian (behar) 27.22
20 spaniard (behar) 27.31

5 Puglia

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.25
2 Mediterranean 27.99
3 NE-Euro 18.4
4 SW-Asian 13.06
5 Baloch 8.82
6 Siberian 0.64
7 American 0.63
8 S-Indian 0.53
9 Papuan 0.3
10 W-African 0.29
11 E-African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 6.56
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 7
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 8.61
4 tuscan (hgdp) 9.08
5 tuscan (hapmap) 9.63
6 sephardic-jew (behar) 12.04
7 morocco-jew (behar) 12.04
8 italian (hgdp) 16.41
9 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.97
10 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 18.13
11 romanian-a (behar) 18.69
12 cypriot (behar) 22.97
13 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 24.09
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 24.38
15 romanian-b (behar) 24.65
16 lebanese (behar) 24.88
17 turk (behar) 25.86
18 turkish (harappa) 26.07
19 spaniard (behar) 26.61
20 syrian (behar) 27.16

Northener · Jan 8, 2017

LeBrok said:
Your increased Med might point to some relationship with Spain and area. Netherlands in general or you personal. With more contemporary European samples we should know better soon.

Most probably is the Med. component the EEF component in Northwestern Europe. Coming from the Med. Northwestern Europe is by sea more logical than the Balticum and even more inwards Eastern Europe....
http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-swedish-farmer-came-from-the-mediterranean-1.10541

Northener · Jan 8, 2017

New Englander said:
^ I would say you are either Basque or Corsican?

But your clearly not, so maybe Western Europe is classed "Med" in this calculator. I would need to look at the spread sheet. I think it peaks in North Italians and Sardinia.

Meaning R1b Celts = Med

Thanks New Englander but I don't think so, all other tools like eurogenes etc point me in Northwest Europe (see above Happa places me also in the North), North-sea territory, no connections with the Celts. You can make a spread for the 22 chromosomes and Med is in all those chromosomes, these are chromosomes of people from North-Dutch descent, as you can see only one drops below 10, no single connection with Basque or Corsica:

26.1

28.9

34.7

28.1

32.9

26.9

27.1

31.0

31.5

21.0

39.7

9.2

34.0

28.2

25.7

20.8

18.8

27.9

27.0

19.3

28.1

Or Celtic area's. I sincerely think this is the EEF component in NW Europe....

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Northener · Jan 8, 2017

And look @ at a previous posting of Le Brok:

LeBrok said:
CA Iberia, ATP2, M849224 BA Iberian, ATP9, M116706 CO1 Hungary BR1 Hungary Unetice I0116, M425717
Population Population Population Population Population
S-Indian - S-Indian - S-Indian - S-Indian - S-Indian -
Baloch - Bloch - Baloch - Baloch 3.15 Baloch 12.21
Caucasian 4.19 Caucasian 7.33 Caucasian 19.26 Caucasian 14.73 Caucasian 2.27
NE-Euro 24.19 NE-Euro 36.77 NE-Euro 16.74 NE-Euro 46.18 NE-Euro 58.33
SE-Asian 0.23 SE-Asian - SE-Asian - SE-Asian 0.2 SE-Asian -
Siberian - Siberian - Siberian - Siberian - Siberian -
NE-Asian - NE-Asian - NE-Asian - NE-Asian - NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.23 Papuan - Papuan - Papuan 0.18 Papuan -
American - American - American - American - American 0.88
Beringian - Beringian - Beringian - Beringian - Beringian -
Mediterranean 63.33 Mediterranean 55.74 Mediterranean 55.37 Mediterranean 31.73 Mediterranean 26.25
SW-Asian 5.14 SW-Asian - SW-Asian 8.52 SW-Asian 3.33 SW-Asian -
San - San - San - San - San -
E-African - E-African - E-African - E-African - E-African -
Pygmy - Pygmy - Pygmy - Pygmy - Pygmy 0.07
W-African 2.69 W-African 0.15 W-African 0.1 W-African 0.48 W-African -

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.26
2 Mediterranean 28.6
3 Baloch 8.79
4 Caucasian 6.09
5 Papuan 0.77
6 S-Indian 0.49

Compared with those results it fits more or less with the Unetice results, the Unetice culture influenced the Nordic Bronze Age heavily (Eureka!?

LeBrok · Jan 8, 2017

Northener said:
And look @ at a previous posting of Le Brok:

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 55.26
2 Mediterranean 28.6
3 Baloch 8.79
4 Caucasian 6.09
5 Papuan 0.77
6 S-Indian 0.49

Compared with those results it fits more or less with the Unetice results, the Unetice culture influenced the Nordic Bronze Age heavily (Eureka!?

Yep, not bad at all. You just have a tiny bit more EEF in you, which gives more Med and Caucasian and less NE Euro (EHG).

LeBrok · Jan 8, 2017

Thanks guys for posting your admixtures. Here is what we have.

Europeans	# of samples	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
Poland	LeBrok	1	7	10	57	1	1	0	0	0	0	22	1	0	0	0	0
Netherlands	Northerner	0	9	6	55	0	0	0	1	0	0	29	0	0	0	0	0
Albania	Dibran	0	5	30	27	0	0	0	0	0	0	30	8	0	0	0	0
Italy, NE	3	1	7	20	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	32	5	0	0	0	0
Italy, South	5	0	8	32	17	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	13	0	1	0	0
Sicily	5	0	9	32	18	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	12	0	1	0	0
Ashkenazy	?	1	7	39	16	0	1	0	0	0	0	24	15	0	1	0	0

LeBrok · Jan 8, 2017

Here are the details of Italians that I have. Interestingly a huge diversification in Sicilians.

Italy, NE	Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
1	Sile's father	0.82	6.87	19.50	33.50	0.54						32.20	6.20			0.32
2	Sile	0.85	8.21	20.13	32.28							32.49	5.89				0.15
3	Sile's wife		7.11	20.17	35.15		0.06	0.58	0.46			32.16	4.17				0.16

Italy, NE	3	1	7	20	34	0	0	0	0	0	0	32	5	0	0	0	0

Sicily	Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
1	Joey D		8.96	37.71	15.28				0.77			24.56	10.94		0.50		0.76
2	Hauteville 1		8.57	34.05	17.84	0.46	0.07		0.05			25.06	12.38		1.49		0.03
3	Hauteville 2	0.76	8.31	32.00	18.25				0.43			28.04	11.54	0.29	0.38
4	Hauteville 3		8.87	30.11	18.32	0.01					0.16	28.00	12.70		1.23		0.61
5	Hauteville 4		9.03	27.85	19.67		0.31	0.51	0.56			27.21	12.49	0.06	1.11	0.34	0.54

Sicily	5	0	9	32	18	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	12	0	1	0	0

Italy, South	Population	S-Indian	Baloch	Caucasian	NE-Euro	SE-Asian	Siberian	NE-Asian	Papuan	American	Beringian	Mediterranean	SW-Asian	San	E-African	Pygmy	W-African
1	Puglia		7.10	35.34	15.91		0.11		0.71	0.62		28.16	11.53		1.00	0.34	0.16
2	Puglia 2	0.53	8.82	29.25	18.40		0.64		0.30	0.63		27.99	13.06		0.07		0.29
3	Basilicata		9.02	30.34	19.21	0.20			0.13	0.07		26.46	13.57	0.16	0.66		0.19
4	Campania	0.39	9.92	36.26	13.51				0.06			24.24	14.72		0.70	0.20
5	Compaina 2	0.93	7.00	31.29	18.65	0.55			0.32			28.33	12.66	0.11	0.18

Italy, South	5	0	8	32	17	0	0	0	0	0	0	27	13	0	1	0	0

Northener · Jan 8, 2017

LeBrok said:
Yep, not bad at all. You just have a tiny bit more EEF in you, which gives more Med and Caucasian and less NE Euro (EHG).

Given the place of Northern Netherlands, more westwards, at the North-Sea so open for influences from the Atlantic/ Med sea sounds plausible.

Isn't in the NE Euro not also WHG or SHG included????

The link with Unetice result was a nice eye opener thanks!

LeBrok · Jan 8, 2017

Northener said:
Give the place of Northern Netherlands, more westwards, at the North-Sea so open for influences from the Atlantic/ Med sea sounds plausible.

Isn't in the NE Euro not also WHG or SHG included????

The link with Unetice result was a nice eye opener thanks!

Samara HG		Loschbour		Motala 12		K01, hungary		Villabruna 14KYa
Population		Population		Population		Population		Population
S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-
Baloch	14.33	Baloch	-	Baloch	-	Baloch	-	Baloch	-
Caucasian	-	Caucasian	-	Caucasian	-	Caucasian	-	Caucasian	-
NE-Euro	75.62	NE-Euro	77.83	NE-Euro	90.24	NE-Euro	82.06	NE-Euro	74.57
SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	0.44	SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	0.65
Siberian	-	Siberian	-	Siberian	0.07	Siberian	-	Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-
Papuan	-	Papuan	0.84	Papuan	0.57	Papuan	0.2	Papuan	0.31
American	9.62	American	-	American	1.58	American	-	American	-
Beringian	0.15	Beringian	-	Beringian	0.68	Beringian	-	Beringian	-
Mediterranean	-	Mediterranean	20.66	Mediterranean	6.83	Mediterranean	17.44	Mediterranean	23.43
SW-Asian	-	SW-Asian	-	SW-Asian	-	SW-Asian	-	SW-Asian	-
San	-	San	-	San	-	San	-	San	-
E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-
Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	0.07
W-African	0.20	W-African	0.17	W-African	-	W-African	0.26	W-African	0.95

To bad we don't have Karelia EHG in Gedmatch. Seams like Motala SHG is almost the source of NE Euro.

#	Population	Percent
1	Caucasian	34.05
2	Mediterranean	25.06
3	NE-Euro	17.84
4	SW-Asian	12.38
5	Baloch	8.57
6	E-African	1.49
7	SE-Asian	0.46
8	Siberian	0.07
9	Papuan	0.05
10	W-African	0.03

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	ashkenazi (harappa)	3.86
2	ashkenazy-jew (behar)	3.88
3	sephardic-jew (behar)	10.07
4	tuscan (1000genomes)	10.99
5	tuscan (hgdp)	11.62
6	morocco-jew (behar)	11.73
7	tuscan (hapmap)	12.31
8	turk-aydin (hodoglugil)	14.44
9	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	18.54
10	cypriot (behar)	18.77
11	romanian-a (behar)	19.68
12	turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)	19.82
13	italian (hgdp)	19.95
14	turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)	20.17
15	turk (behar)	21.57
16	lebanese (behar)	21.66
17	turkish (harappa)	22.4
18	lebanese-muslim (haber)	23.96
19	armenian (harappa)	24
20	syrian (behar)	24.1

CA Iberia, ATP2, M849224	BA Iberian, ATP9, M116706		CO1 Hungary		BR1 Hungary		Unetice I0116, M425717
Population		Population		Population		Population		Population
S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-	S-Indian	-
Baloch	-	Bloch	-	Baloch	-	Baloch	3.15	Baloch	12.21
Caucasian	4.19	Caucasian	7.33	Caucasian	19.26	Caucasian	14.73	Caucasian	2.27
NE-Euro	24.19	NE-Euro	36.77	NE-Euro	16.74	NE-Euro	46.18	NE-Euro	58.33
SE-Asian	0.23	SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	-	SE-Asian	0.2	SE-Asian	-
Siberian	-	Siberian	-	Siberian	-	Siberian	-	Siberian	-
NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-	NE-Asian	-
Papuan	0.23	Papuan	-	Papuan	-	Papuan	0.18	Papuan	-
American	-	American	-	American	-	American	-	American	0.88
Beringian	-	Beringian	-	Beringian	-	Beringian	-	Beringian	-
Mediterranean	63.33	Mediterranean	55.74	Mediterranean	55.37	Mediterranean	31.73	Mediterranean	26.25
SW-Asian	5.14	SW-Asian	-	SW-Asian	8.52	SW-Asian	3.33	SW-Asian	-
San	-	San	-	San	-	San	-	San	-
E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-	E-African	-
Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	-	Pygmy	0.07
W-African	2.69	W-African	0.15	W-African	0.1	W-African	0.48	W-African	-

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