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# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 56.66 |
2 | Mediterranean | 18.58 |
3 | Caucasian | 9.57 |
4 | Baloch | 8.59 |
5 | S-Indian | 2.38 |
6 | SW-Asian | 2.03 |
7 | Siberian | 1.81 |
8 | E-African | 0.37 |
Generally speaking you fit in Ukrainian landscape, however there are little nuances to mention. You have lower Caucasian and higher Baloch than average Ukrainian, together with higher S-Indian and Siberian might indicate more eastern influence of one of far ancestors...., after a second look, I think perhaps we are talking about 2 ancestors who were not typical Ukrainians. One from around Lithuania, the second from East Ukraine or even farther east. The "Lithuanian" ancestor can explain higher Baloch, lower Caucasian and higher Mediterranean. The one from East can explain lower NE Euro, higher S Indian and Siberian.My HarappaWorld results
Ukrainian, Kyiv
Admix Results (sorted):
Must say I am surprised and cannot explain some of these numbers
# Population Percent 1 NE-Euro 56.66 2 Mediterranean 18.58 3 Caucasian 9.57 4 Baloch 8.59 5 S-Indian 2.38 6 SW-Asian 2.03 7 Siberian 1.81 8 E-African 0.37
Couple more wouldn't hurt.
You look pretty much NW European, though I don't have Swiss or South German genome to compare. Beringian is interesting, but no American admixture. That's something. Perhaps one of your ancestors 6-7 generations ago was Inuit?
# Population Percent 1 NE-Euro 48.49 2 Mediterranean 30.71 3 Baloch 9.19 4 Caucasian 8.23 5 Beringian 1.71 6 S-Indian 0.73 7 Papuan 0.55 8 SE-Asian 0.21 9 Siberian 0.16 10 SW-Asian 0.02
Couple more wouldn't hurt.
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 28.66 |
2 | NE-Euro | 27.72 |
3 | Mediterranean | 26.01 |
4 | SW-Asian | 10.12 |
5 | Baloch | 6.41 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 29.84 |
2 | NE-Euro | 27.60 |
3 | Mediterranean | 26.47 |
4 | SW-Asian | 8.79 |
5 | Baloch | 6.09 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 29.58 |
2 | Mediterranean | 28.48 |
3 | Caucasian | 27.62 |
4 | SW-Asian | 6.79 |
5 | Baloch | 5.86 |
6 | S-Indian | 1.39 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 28.04 |
2 | Mediterranean | 27.10 |
3 | Caucasian | 26.39 |
4 | SW-Asian | 9.59 |
5 | Baloch | 6.83 |
6 | NE-Asian | 1.31 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 33.05 |
2 | Mediterranean | 25.72 |
3 | Caucasian | 25.15 |
4 | SW-Asian | 8.11 |
5 | Baloch | 6.71 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 28.00 |
2 | Caucasian | 27.55 |
3 | Mediterranean | 26.32 |
4 | SW-Asian | 8.28 |
5 | Baloch | 8.25 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 32.54 |
2 | Mediterranean | 24.41 |
3 | Caucasian | 24.34 |
4 | SW-Asian | 9.18 |
5 | Baloch | 8.05 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 29.02 |
2 | NE-Euro | 28.94 |
3 | Mediterranean | 28.68 |
4 | SW-Asian | 7.95 |
5 | Baloch | 4.99 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 32.88 |
2 | Mediterranean | 28.44 |
3 | Caucasian | 26.37 |
4 | SW-Asian | 7.14 |
5 | Baloch | 4.68 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Mediterranean | 30.39 |
2 | NE-Euro | 28.59 |
3 | Caucasian | 26.66 |
4 | Baloch | 7.05 |
5 | SW-Asian | 6.11 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 29.53 |
2 | NE-Euro | 27.90 |
3 | Mediterranean | 26.73 |
4 | SW-Asian | 8.65 |
5 | Baloch | 6.11 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Mediterranean | 29.17 |
2 | NE-Euro | 27.76 |
3 | Caucasian | 27.56 |
4 | Baloch | 7.31 |
5 | SW-Asian | 6.90 |
6 | Siberian | 1.10 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 31.85 |
2 | NE-Euro | 30.35 |
3 | Mediterranean | 23.99 |
4 | Baloch | 7.03 |
5 | SW-Asian | 5.96 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 29.34 |
2 | NE-Euro | 27.39 |
3 | Mediterranean | 26.18 |
4 | SW-Asian | 9.73 |
5 | Baloch | 6.54 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | Caucasian | 30.69 |
2 | Mediterranean | 27.84 |
3 | NE-Euro | 25.17 |
4 | SW-Asian | 8.85 |
5 | Baloch | 6.32 |
# | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 29.31 |
2 | Mediterranean | 28.34 |
3 | Caucasian | 27.30 |
4 | Baloch | 7.10 |
5 | SW-Asian | 6.80 |
You look pretty much NW European, though I don't have Swiss or South German genome to compare. Beringian is interesting, but no American admixture. That's something. Perhaps one of your ancestors 6-7 generations ago was Inuit?
Remember that if we go 6 generations back we had 64 ancestors. Is it possible to find all 64 of them from 150 years ago?The odd thing is that wherever there's "Beringian" in a calculator I tend to be elevated--especially PuntDNAL, it's like 2.7. If there's no Beringian, then other things like South Asian and Siberian are higher. It's mildly perplexing.
Most of my family tree is is pretty nailed down and nobody got remotely near the arctic--the only wildcard is one great great granddad, my mom's dad's grandfather was allegedly born in southern Russia, probably associated with Melochna River Mennonites. I'm guessing some kind of Tatar, or some wayward group not well sampled. MDLP 4 ancestor oracle throws Cossack in the mix. Upon reflection that would probably be an apt description of my grandpa.
Thanks, a nice collection. Should we split them into Gheg and Tosk, and then make an average Albanian? There is quite wide range, for example NE Euro can be 25 to 32 and similar with Med and Caucasian. Surprisingly a strong diversity in small population.Here you go LeBrok. There is more(which I will post later). All these kits are Albanian.
Thanks, a nice collection. Should we split them into Gheg and Tosk, and then make an average Albanian? There is quite wide range, for example NE Euro can be 25 to 32 and similar with Med and Caucasian. Surprisingly a strong diversity in small population.
When I look at your personal numbers, gheg, they are the closest to Neolithic farmer admixtures from all Balkan ethnic groups. Well, from all I have. Gheg genetics did change with IE and other invasions, but the least of all.
Remember that if we go 6 generations back we had 64 ancestors. Is it possible to find all 64 of them from 150 years ago?
You have only Beringian, without other admixtures which are popular in North/East Asia. Like NE Asian, Siberian or American. This means that the source of Beringian needed to be very clean and high, like Chukchi or Inuit.
Having said that, with such small amount of admixture some other genetic forces can play tricks on us. So take it with a grain of salt.
Right on, more pronounced. Looking at proportions of Beringian to Amerindian it must have been someone from Chukchi/Inuit/Eskimo like group. About 5-6 generations ago. Knowing racism of people way back, it must have been a big secret and shame for the whole family. No wonder it is so hard to find out now.It's good to have a little bit of ambiguity in one's past.
There's also this:
puntDNAL K10 Ancient Oracle results:
puntDNAL K10 Ancient Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 WHG 46.68
2 ENF 26.04
3 CHG 21.36
4 Beringian 3.7
5 ASI 1.23
6 Amerindian 0.68
7 Sub-Saharan 0.17
8 Oceanian 0.16
A little bit of a stronger signal. Still, no clue where this could be coming from. Probably no way to find out either.
They do look more Southern. I'll check the numbers more carefully tonight. Gheg has more Neolithic and Greek/Anatolian Bronze influences. Tosk, I believe, look more Northern/Steppe, but not as Northern as Macedonians, who has very obvious Slavic/Northern influence.That would make sense. How would you do that exactly? I am uncertain about whether most of these are Gheg or Tosk. I know Trojet, and Kelmendasi are Ghegs. Unless you would be able to tell Gheg from Tosk based on their results?
Surprisingly for a Gheg my father plots south about. even in K36 oracle he gets predominantly southern Albanian with Greek Macedonian percentages and finally northern Albanians.
I show as northern Albanian, southern Albanian and Greek Peloponnesus. Not sure how reliable these are but it would explain my father being an R1a Gheg. Perhaps displaced Greek R1a Thessaly or Greek Macedonia being assimilated into the northern Ghegs at some point in time?
Or is it possible that it was just via marriage(possibly through my grandmother). Being that autosomes recombine generationally.
Could this minimal change be due to the mountain ranges in the north and the relative isolation it provided?
They do look more Southern. I'll check the numbers more carefully tonight. Gheg has more Neolithic and Greek/Anatolian Bronze influences. Tosk, I believe, look more Northern/Steppe, but not as Northern as Macedonians, who has very obvious Slavic/Northern influence.
I think Greeks, let's say in Bronze Age, turned towards Armenian Bronze like, away from Neolithic. This shows in sharply rising Caucasian and falling Med. Ghegs look most Neolithic to me of all the Balkans. They should plot closest to Sardinians of all the Balkans. Well, unless the three Ghegs we have are not representative?Interesting. I figured it was the reverse. Higher steppe with Ghegs, and more Neolithic with tosks. Assuming because Neolithic climbs southward into Greece?
But given the low plains of the south, your stance makes more sense.
Right on, more pronounced. Looking at proportions of Beringian to Amerindian it must have been someone from Chukchi/Inuit/Eskimo like group. About 5-6 generations ago. Knowing racism of people way back, it must have been a big secret and shame for the whole family. No wonder it is so hard to find out now.
I think Greeks, let's say in Bronze Age, turned towards Armenian Bronze like, away from Neolithic. This shows in sharply rising Caucasian and falling Med. Ghegs look most Neolithic to me of all the Balkans. They should plot closest to Sardinians of all the Balkans. Well, unless the three Ghegs we have are not representative?
Yep, this might be your Inuit connection!There may have been an adoption, one of my gg grandfathers, but there's no record. He would be this lady's father.
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We were always told she was French.
Gmom | Mom | Dad | Me | Bro | ||||||||||
# | Population | Percent | # | Population | Percent | # | Population | Percent | # | Population | Percent | # | Population | Percent |
1 | NE-Euro | 48.34 | 1 | NE-Euro | 48.94 | 1 | NE-Euro | 47.4 | 1 | NE-Euro | 48.27 | 1 | NE-Euro | 49.47 |
2 | Mediterranean | 30.62 | 2 | Mediterranean | 30.81 | 2 | Mediterranean | 31.63 | 2 | Mediterranean | 30.73 | 2 | Mediterranean | 30.54 |
3 | Baloch | 11.26 | 3 | Baloch | 9.53 | 3 | Baloch | 10.39 | 3 | Baloch | 10.01 | 3 | Baloch | 10.2 |
4 | Caucasian | 8.73 | 4 | Caucasian | 9.18 | 4 | Caucasian | 7.7 | 4 | Caucasian | 7.77 | 4 | Caucasian | 8 |
5 | SW-Asian | 0.94 | 5 | SW-Asian | 0.98 | 5 | SW-Asian | 2.24 | 5 | SW-Asian | 2.3 | 5 | SW-Asian | 0.95 |
6 | W-African | 0.07 | 6 | American | 0.26 | 6 | S-Indian | 0.43 | 6 | Papuan | 0.54 | 6 | American | 0.55 |
7 | E-African | 0.05 | 7 | E-African | 0.22 | 7 | Papuan | 0.11 | 7 | American | 0.24 | 7 | Papuan | 0.13 |
8 | Papuan | 0.07 | 8 | Pygmy | 0.08 | 8 | E-African | 0.13 | 8 | Beringian | 0.08 | |||
9 | E-African | 0.02 | 9 | S-Indian | 0.07 | |||||||||
Single Population Sharing: | 10 | E-African | 0.01 | |||||||||||
# | Population (source) | Distance | # | Population (source) | Distance | # | Population (source) | Distance | # | Population (source) | Distance | # | Population (source) | Distance |
1 | utahn-white (1000genomes) | 4.26 | 1 | utahn-white (1000genomes) | 4.24 | 1 | utahn-white (1000genomes) | 4.08 | 1 | utahn-white (1000genomes) | 3.93 | 1 | utahn-white (1000genomes) | 3.3 |
2 | n-european (xing) | 5.01 | 2 | n-european (xing) | 4.34 | 2 | n-european (xing) | 5.37 | 2 | n-european (xing) | 4.47 | 2 | n-european (xing) | 3.52 |
3 | utahn-white (hapmap) | 5.22 | 3 | utahn-white (hapmap) | 4.99 | 3 | utahn-white (hapmap) | 5.52 | 3 | utahn-white (hapmap) | 4.88 | 3 | utahn-white (hapmap) | 3.92 |
4 | british (1000genomes) | 5.99 | 4 | british (1000genomes) | 6.19 | 4 | british (1000genomes) | 5.66 | 4 | british (1000genomes) | 5.72 | 4 | british (1000genomes) | 5.24 |
5 | french (hgdp) | 8.22 | 5 | french (hgdp) | 8.15 | 5 | french (hgdp) | 6.89 | 5 | french (hgdp) | 7.92 | 5 | orcadian (hgdp) | 7.37 |
6 | orcadian (hgdp) | 8.22 | 6 | hungarian (behar) | 8.34 | 6 | orcadian (hgdp) | 8.17 | 6 | orcadian (hgdp) | 7.99 | 6 | french (hgdp) | 8.86 |
7 | hungarian (behar) | 9.02 | 7 | orcadian (hgdp) | 8.52 | 7 | hungarian (behar) | 9.91 | 7 | hungarian (behar) | 9.12 | 7 | hungarian (behar) | 9 |
8 | slovenian (xing) | 10.44 | 8 | slovenian (xing) | 9.69 | 8 | slovenian (xing) | 11.38 | 8 | slovenian (xing) | 10.46 | 8 | slovenian (xing) | 10.19 |
9 | ukranian (yunusbayev) | 16.44 | 9 | ukranian (yunusbayev) | 15.85 | 9 | ukranian (yunusbayev) | 17.61 | 9 | ukranian (yunusbayev) | 16.46 | 9 | ukranian (yunusbayev) | 15.74 |
10 | spaniard (behar) | 20.46 | 10 | belorussian (behar) | 20.1 | 10 | spaniard (behar) | 19.03 | 10 | spaniard (behar) | 20.07 | 10 | belorussian (behar) | 19.77 |
11 | belorussian (behar) | 20.72 | 11 | spaniard (behar) | 20.44 | 11 | spaniard (1000genomes) | 20.02 | 11 | belorussian (behar) | 20.67 | 11 | mordovian (yunusbayev) | 21.08 |
12 | romanian-a (behar) | 20.87 | 12 | romanian-a (behar) | 20.64 | 12 | romanian-a (behar) | 21.09 | 12 | spaniard (1000genomes) | 21.05 | 12 | spaniard (behar) | 21.17 |
13 | spaniard (1000genomes) | 21.52 | 13 | mordovian (yunusbayev) | 21.47 | 13 | belorussian (behar) | 21.85 | 13 | romanian-a (behar) | 21.08 | 13 | romanian-a (behar) | 21.68 |
14 | mordovian (yunusbayev) | 21.76 | 14 | spaniard (1000genomes) | 21.5 | 14 | italian (hgdp) | 22.37 | 14 | mordovian (yunusbayev) | 21.83 | 14 | russian (behar) | 22.17 |
15 | russian (behar) | 23.02 | 15 | russian (behar) | 22.35 | 15 | mordovian (yunusbayev) | 22.94 | 15 | russian (behar) | 23.03 | 15 | spaniard (1000genomes) | 22.18 |
16 | italian (hgdp) | 23.12 | 16 | bulgarian (yunusbayev) | 22.91 | 16 | bulgarian (yunusbayev) | 23.45 | 16 | italian (hgdp) | 23.06 | 16 | russian (hgdp) | 23.33 |
17 | bulgarian (yunusbayev) | 23.2 | 17 | italian (hgdp) | 22.95 | 17 | russian (behar) | 24.2 | 17 | bulgarian (yunusbayev) | 23.43 | 17 | bulgarian (yunusbayev) | 23.98 |
18 | russian (hgdp) | 24.18 | 18 | russian (hgdp) | 23.83 | 18 | russian (hgdp) | 25.2 | 18 | russian (hgdp) | 24.08 | 18 | italian (hgdp) | 24.05 |
19 | lithuanian (behar) | 26.18 | 19 | lithuanian (behar) | 25.71 | 19 | lithuanian (behar) | 27.22 | 19 | lithuanian (behar) | 26.09 | 19 | lithuanian (behar) | 25.09 |
20 | chuvash (behar) | 28.45 | 20 | chuvash (behar) | 28.53 | 20 | spain-basc (henn2012) | 27.4 | 20 | chuvash (behar) | 28.45 | 20 | chuvash (behar) | 28.25 |
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