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Philistine DNA!

brick said:
Crete_Armenoi is different from the Mycenaeans and Minoans, in Lazaridis's PCA it plots with northern Greeks from Thessaloniki. In Gedmatch Crete_Armenoi plots a bit away from modern populations, towards Northern Italians/Tuscans and Bulgarians/Northern Greeks. Crete_Armenoi gets the worst distances in K15.

Gedmatch Kit Number: Z401678 (Crete_Armenoi I9123)



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MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]#[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]39.64[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Neolithic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]34.24[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]NorthEastEuropean[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]11.71[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Steppe[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.52[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Amerindian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.87[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Australian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Ancestor[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]2.06[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaloniki @ 11.663928
2 Albanian_Albania @ 12.000857
3 Greek_Athens @ 12.228420
4 Italian_Tuscany @ 12.684225
5 Sicilian_Sicily @ 13.045312
6 Greek_Greece @ 13.209495
7 Kosovar_Kosovo @ 13.225756
8 Italian_SouthItaly @ 13.542761
9 Greek_Peloponnes @ 13.546643
10 Maltese_Malta @ 13.893864
11 Greek_Greece @ 13.965723
12 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.261950
13 Greek_Macedonia @ 15.071374
14 Italian_NorthIitaly @ 15.338378
15 Jew_Ashkenazim @ 15.710345
16 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 15.954588
17 Corsican_Corsica @ 16.125498
18 Italian_Bergamo @ 16.229155
19 Jew_Ashkenazi @ 16.368599
20 Gagauz_Gagauzia @ 16.508347

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sardinian_Sardinia +50% Turk_Trabzon @ 9.353472


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaloniki +25% Sardinian_Sardinia +25% Turk_Trabzon @ 7.496452


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Greek_Thessaloniki + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.466018
2 Greek_Thessaloniki + Greek_Thessaloniki + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.496452
3 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Bergamo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.527965
4 Kosovar_Kosovo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.537002
5 Albanian_Albania + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.563157
6 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Greek_Thessaloniki + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.573567
7 Greek_Greece + Italian_Bergamo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.576386
8 Albanian_Albania + Greek_Thessaloniki + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.589819
9 Albanian_Albania + Italian_Bergamo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.621921
10 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_Tuscany + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.625950
11 Greek_Athens + Italian_Bergamo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.651759
12 Albanian_Albania + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.665133
13 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Italian_Tuscany + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.668783
14 Albanian_Albania + Albanian_Albania + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.686642
15 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.697384
16 Italian_Tuscany + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.708766
17 Albanian_Albania + Italian_Tuscany + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.720934
18 Italian_Bergamo + Kosovar_Kosovo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.778342
19 Greek_Thessaloniki + Italian_NorthIitaly + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.785923
20 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Italian_Bergamo + Sardinian_Sardinia + Turk_Trabzon @ 7.811959



Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle


K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]#[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]29.14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Baltic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]16.19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]15.55[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Red_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]12.66[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.69[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.139467
2 Bulgarian @ 19.459091
3 Tuscan @ 19.659492
4 Central_Greek @ 20.105986
5 East_Sicilian @ 20.423048
6 West_Sicilian @ 20.439310
7 Romanian @ 20.484518
8 North_Italian @ 20.791340
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.877569
10 South_Italian @ 23.176262
11 Serbian @ 23.301306
12 Ashkenazi @ 24.852739
13 Spanish_Extremadura @ 26.338322
14 Spanish_Galicia @ 26.537903
15 Portuguese @ 26.838459
16 Moldavian @ 26.909927
17 Algerian_Jewish @ 27.724848
18 Spanish_Andalucia @ 27.982512
19 Moroccan @ 28.321758
20 Spanish_Murcia @ 28.841026

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +50% Moroccan @ 14.127831


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +25% Sardinian +25% Saudi @ 11.489973


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Kabardin + Moroccan + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.156603
2 Kabardin + Moroccan + Polish + Sardinian @ 10.246059
3 Kabardin + Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 10.269535
4 Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.293427
5 Kabardin + Moroccan + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 10.332965
6 Balkar + Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 10.424162
7 Balkar + Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.442448
8 Balkar + Moroccan + Polish + Sardinian @ 10.452525
9 Balkar + Moroccan + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.456155
10 Kumyk + Moroccan + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.495074
11 Belorussian + Kabardin + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.503551
12 Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + Ossetian + Sardinian @ 10.516138
13 Adygei + Moroccan + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 10.538552
14 Adygei + Moroccan + Polish + Sardinian @ 10.546384
15 Adygei + Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.553177
16 Adygei + Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 10.560045
17 Moroccan + Ossetian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 10.561866
18 Kabardin + Lithuanian + Moroccan + Sardinian @ 10.568363
19 Kumyk + Moroccan + Polish + Sardinian @ 10.575541
20 Kumyk + Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 10.577345

Done.

Elapsed time 1.9058 seconds.


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]#[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Atlantic_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]36.43[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_European[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]21.54[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]20.53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Southwest_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.38[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Northwest_African[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]5.63[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Gedrosia[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]4.34[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.15[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 8.968685
2 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 10.243786
3 North_Italian_HGDP @ 10.511731
4 TSI30_Metspalu @ 10.526886
5 Tuscan_HGDP @ 12.314641
6 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.114214
7 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 15.858938
8 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 16.151669
9 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 16.735641
10 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 16.817284
11 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 17.347780
12 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 17.713610
13 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 19.331276
14 Greek_Dodecad @ 19.624538
15 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 19.795702
16 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 19.902699
17 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.248411
18 Spaniards_Behar @ 20.746887
19 Spanish_Dodecad @ 21.090904
20 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 21.341671

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Dodecad +50% Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 3.181978


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Galicia_1000Genomes +25% Morocco_Jews_Behar +25% Romanians_Behar @ 2.797688


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.112039
2 Canarias_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.204129
3 Aragon_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.213219
4 Aragon_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.216226
5 Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Spanish_Dodecad @ 2.257011
6 Andalucia_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.261468
7 Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Spaniards_Behar @ 2.267900
8 Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Valencia_1000Genomes @ 2.270832
9 Canarias_1000Genomes + Cantabria_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.288237
10 Canarias_1000Genomes + Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.307066
11 French_Basque_HGDP + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.323120
12 German_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.352118
13 Baleares_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.398038
14 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.468009
15 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.470825
16 Baleares_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.472091
17 Canarias_1000Genomes + Hungarians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Valencia_1000Genomes @ 2.491874
18 Baleares_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.498900
19 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 2.506960
20 British_Isles_Dodecad + Canarias_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.515589

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

[TABLE="width: 0"]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]#[/TD]
[TD]Population[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]Percent[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]26.42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Atlantic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]18.22[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.41[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Baltic[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]14.11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Red_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]13.89[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.32[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Eastern_Euro[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]3.35[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 30, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_Sea[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.74[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 23.968235
2 Tuscan @ 24.014156
3 Greek @ 24.185492
4 North_Italian @ 24.485718
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 25.374260
6 Romanian @ 25.475012
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 26.588182
8 East_Sicilian @ 26.684841
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 26.823009
10 Central_Greek @ 27.004074
11 West_Sicilian @ 27.130219
12 Ashkenazi @ 27.704870
13 Spanish_Extremadura @ 27.981295
14 Serbian @ 28.234880
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 28.693233
16 Portuguese @ 28.727505
17 Spanish_Galicia @ 28.790810
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 28.804472
19 South_Italian @ 28.889931
20 Spanish_Valencia @ 29.109421

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogay +50% Sardinian @ 19.573439


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Sardinian +25% Turkish +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 18.136768


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + North_Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 15.704981
2 North_Ossetian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 15.742607
3 Belorussian + North_Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 15.830244
4 Lithuanian + North_Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 15.869636
5 North_Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 16.012613
6 Balkar + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.031731
7 Balkar + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.043739
8 Kabardin + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.052666
9 Adygei + Estonian_Polish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.070629
10 Adygei + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.083134
11 Estonian_Polish + Kabardin + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.085138
12 Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + North_Ossetian + Sardinian @ 16.105034
13 North_Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 16.128746
14 Balkar + Belorussian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.131834
15 Moroccan + North_Ossetian + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 16.135401
16 Balkar + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.151211
17 Estonian_Polish + Ossetian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.152056
18 Belorussian + Kabardin + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.176079
19 Adygei + Belorussian + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.179466
20 North_Ossetian + Polish + Sardinian + Sardinian @ 16.189388
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https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB20914

I wonder if that is from the 2017 submission, or the 2018 one. I noticed there was a re-upload of the BAM files. The coordinates I made are from the 2018 version.

You need to adjust the columns to see the info.
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Demetrios said:
Yeah, it appears i am a typical Peloponnesian, which means intermediary location between Thessaloniki and Southern Italians, the latter evidently clustering with the Mycenaeans and the Philistine sample in question. By the way, what is the designation of the BA Armenoi sample on the PCA?
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All my known ancestors are also from the Peloponnese (mostly Arcadia but one ancestor may have come from Laconia). I haven’t taken an autosomal ancestry test, but a relative did, with maybe typical results: Greek/Balkans/Italian. I imagine that based on the Peloponnesian academic study, I should cluster with you and others. Any recommendation on which company I should use, where the results can also be analyzed like they are in the model above?
 
Ralphie Boy said:
All my known ancestors are also from the Peloponnese (mostly Arcadia but one ancestor may have come from Laconia). I haven’t taken an autosomal ancestry test, but a relative did, with maybe typical results: Greek/Balkans/Italian. I imagine that based on the Peloponnesian academic study, I should cluster with you and others. Any recommendation on which company I should use, where the results can also be analyzed like they are in the model above?
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The mother of my paternal grandfather also hailed from Arcadia. Anyway, regarding the autosomal tests, i have only tried MyHeritage, which is very cheap if you order it during a discount season. I ordered it during the last Black Friday, when the price had reached 49$. Now it's 79$ which defeats the aforementioned purpose. But, even before i made the order i wasn't that interested in the autosomal results of any of these commercial companies, simply in acquiring my raw data, which i then uploaded on a number of other websites/platforms that were much more informative in terms of my autosomal background. I can help you as far as my current knowledge goes through PM when you do order and get your results. By the way, i sent you a PM approximately 2 weeks ago, have you seen it?
 
Demetrios said:
The mother of my paternal grandfather also hailed from Arcadia. Anyway, regarding the autosomal tests, i have only tried MyHeritage, which is very cheap if you order it during a discount season. I ordered it during the last Black Friday, when the price had reached 49$. Now it's 79$ which defeats the aforementioned purpose. But, even before i made the order i wasn't that interested in the autosomal results of any of these commercial companies, simply in acquiring my raw data, which i then uploaded on a number of other websites/platforms that were much more informative in terms of my autosomal background. I can help you as far as my current knowledge goes through PM when you do order and get your results. By the way, i sent you a PM approximately 2 weeks ago, have you seen it?
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Got your PM and responded. Thanks so much for writing and sorry I didn’t see it sooner.

You put it well—raw data. That’s what I’m interested in, getting the raw data and running it in the calculators. I was previously urged to take an autosomal test and ought to do it.
 
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