Archetype0ne
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New Avar/Hungarian/Panonian samples. Looks like Albanians are most closely related to Panonian Illyrians than Croatian/Slovenian Illyrians. Which is weird because Panonians were more northern... (Although they allied with the Delmetae) They had tons of EV-13 and J2B2/Z638.
There are 3 J2B2-L283 samples, 2 of them fall under the "southern" Z638. Worth noting these are not branches ancestral to Albanians, but are closely related. As per Kelmendasi on Anthrogenica
Three J2b-L283 samples have been confirmed:
1) ALTper77; Early-Middle Avar (620-675 CE); J2b-Y21878* (xY37121)
2) VPBper307; Late Avar Elite (ninth century CE); J2b-Z595* (xAM00228, YP155)
3) SPper2; Conquering Hungarian Elite (tenth century CE); J2b-Z1297* (xCTS1317, Y27523)
Main thing from this:
Z638 is the more southern one so far, but I don't know if it mutated in Albania/Montenegro. It probably mutated in Central Europe 4000 years ago. Northern and Southern Illyrians split before migrating to the Balkans.
That Early Avar is my clade.
Also I wonder how did that Bronze Age Croatian L283 made itself a Conquering Hungarian Elite ?