Pi gman, nice comment... I like the coffee shop scenerio.
BTW, my grandfather worked on planes that 'flew the hump' back in WWII. He wasn't USAF because of the timeline, but he was proto USAF anyway.
Thanks Nordic,
I am a Vietnam era veteran who trained for a year and got assigned to the 6942 Tuslog Det 94 in Karamursel, Turkey. I was USAF Security Service with Top Secret clearance need to know and all that. Our job was highly classified but 10 years after my enlistment was up everything I knew and did was de-classified. The short of it is we were intercepting Russian signals. My particular assignment was to intercept and record encrypted Soviet voice associated with MIRV mobile Russian nuclear ICBMs. We had to know where they were at all times.
I lived in a nearby village - Yalova, Turkey for three years and took trips that included the 7 churches of Asia Minor among others. Interesting that I have found out my haplo R1b1a L2+, Z49+ and Z142+ matches numerous samples of a population study of Phocaea and Smyrna (Izmir) Turkey. In history these were Greek city-states of Ionian Greeks. Wish I could go back for a visit! Could by my
doppelgänger or cousins are there!
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phocaea
Phocaea, or
Phokaia, (
Greek: Φώκαια) (modern-day
Foça in
Turkey) was an ancient
Ionian Greek city on the western coast of
Anatolia.
Greek colonists from Phocaea founded the colony of Massalia
[1] (modern day
Marseille, in
France) in 600 BC,
Emporion (modern day
Empúries, in
Catalonia,
Spain) in 575 BC and Elea (modern day
Velia, in
Campania,
Italy) in 540 BC.
The ancient Greek geographer
Pausanias says that Phocaea was founded by
Phocians under
Athenian leadership, on land given to them by the Aeolian
Cymaeans, and that they were admitted into the
Ionian League after accepting as kings the line of
Codrus.
[4] Pottery remains indicate Aeolian presence as late as the 9th century BC, and Ionian presence as early as the end of the 9th century BC. From this an approximate date of settlement for Phocaea can be inferred.
[5]
According to
Herodotus the Phocaeans were the first Greeks to make long sea-voyages, having discovered the coasts of the
Adriatic,
Tyrrhenia and Spain. Herodotus relates that they so impressed
Arganthonios, king of
Tartessus in
Spain, that he invited them to settle there, and, when they declined, gave them a great sum of money to build a wall around their city.
[6]
Their sea travel was extensive. To the south they probably conducted trade with the Greek colony of
Naucratis in
Egypt, which was the colony of their fellow Ionian city
Miletus. To the north, they probably helped settle
Amisos (Samsun) on the
Black Sea, and
Lampsacus at the north end of the
Hellespont (now the
Dardanelles). However Phocaea's major colonies were to the west. These included
Alalia in
Corsica,
Emporiae and
Rhoda in Spain, and especially Massalia (
Marseille) in France.
[5]
Phocaea remained independent until the reign of the
Lydian king
Croesus (circa 560–545 BC), when they, along with the rest of mainland Ionia, first, fell under Lydian control
[7] and then, along with Lydia (who had allied itself with
Sparta) were conquered by
Cyrus the Great of
Persia in 546 BC, in one of the opening skirmishes of the great
Greco-Persian conflict.
Rather than submit to Persian rule, the Phocaeans abandoned their city. Some may have fled to
Chios, others to their colonies on
Corsica and elsewhere in the
Mediterranean, with some eventually returning to Phocaea. Many however became the founders of
Elea, around 540 BC.
[8]
So we have Ionian Greeks entering Corsica, France and Spain.
Curtis Pigman (France - Pigmon/Pimond and Greece - Pygmon)