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you are mixing up your tribes
Pecetius and daunus are sons of Lycaon, not to mention Messapus. Iapygians is based off a hero of Crete, Iapyx.
@ Nobody,
how certain you are hat Iapodes and Iapyges are the same?
Καλαβρια Calabria if we exclude the Greek Καλος+φρεαρ (Βρυα), then we see Thracian -Bria.
messapians we see mess- a common we found in Peloponese Messenia, Crete Messara etc.
we know that Messapians spoke an IE language which today small vocabulary survived in Aromani, Romanian, and Albanian, since they moved to Balkans from Messapia.
Strabo mentions about Iapodes that they lived and tatoo like Getans, but they were armed like Celts and they eat zea bread something that also Greeks did, especially in campaigns (Ζειδωρον + Οψον)
Here is the data from previous studies (subclades not tested).
From Capelli et al. (2007)
North Italy
In Val Badia, Alto Adige, 2 out of 34 samples were E1b1b (6%).
Central Italy
In Elba Island, north-west Tuscany, 7 out of 95 samples were E1b1b (7%).
In Central Tuscany, 4 out of 41 samples were E1b1b (10%).
At the Tuscany-Latium border, 9 out of 79 samples were E1b1b (11.5%).
In the North-East Latium, 14 out of 55 samples were E1b1b (25.5%).
In the South Latium, 3 out of 51 samples were E1b1b (6%).
In Central Marche, 3 out of 59 samples were E1b1b (5%).
In Apennine Marche, 4 out of 27 samples were E1b1b (15%).
South Italy
In West Campania, 15 out of 84 samples were E1b1b (18%).
In North-West Apulia, 2 out of 46 samples were E1b1b (4.5%).
In South Apulia, 16 out of 71 samples were E1b1b (22.5%).
In West Calabria, 9 out of 57 samples were E1b1b (16%).
From Ferri et al. (2007)
Central Italy
In Rimini, eastern Romagna, 15.5% of E1b1b was found out of 98 samples.
In Valmarecchia, eastern Romagna, 20% of E1b1b was found out of 65 samples.
From Di Giacomo et al. (2002)
North Italy
In Val di Non, Trentino-Alto Adige, no E1b1b was found (0%) out of 30 samples.
In Verona, west Veneto, 9% of E1b1b was found out of 22 samples.
In Genoa, central Liguria, 24% of E1b1b was found out of 29 samples.
Central Italy
In Garfagnana, north-west Tuscany, 2.5% of E1b1b was found out of 42 samples.
South Italy
In L'Aquila, west Abruzzo, 11.5% of E1b1b was found out of 35 samples.
In Pescara, east Abruzzo, 15% of E1b1b was found out of 20 samples.
In Avezzano, south-west Abruzzo, 7% of E1b1b was found out of 29 samples.
In the North Gargano peninsula, northern Apulia, 24% of E1b1b was found out of 29 samples.
In Foggia, northern Apulia, 11% of E1b1b was found out of 27 samples.
In Benevento, central-east Campania, 17.5% of E1b1b was found out of 46 samples.
In the Cilento peninsula, southern Campania, 12.5% of E1b1b was found out of 48 samples.
In Casarano, southern Apulia, 20% of E1b1b was found out of 20 samples.
In Brindisi, central-east Apulia, 26.5% of E1b1b was found out of 38 samples.
In Altamura, central-west Apulia, 36% of E1b1b was found out of 25 samples.
In Matera, central-east Basilicata, 25% of E1b1b was found out of 24 samples.
In Paola, north-west Calabria, 11% of E1b1b was found out of 27 samples.
In Reggio Calabriab, southern Calabria, 27.5% of E1b1b was found out of 33 samples.
From Onofri et al. (2007)
Central Italy
In Urbino, northern Marche, 19% of E1b1b was found out of 37 samples.
In Fabriano, central-west Marche, 23% of E1b1b was found out of 44 samples.
From Brisighelli et al. (2012)
North Italy
In Udine, central-east Friuli-Venezia Giulia, 6.5% of E1b1b was found out of 47 samples.
In eastern Liguria, 15% of E1b1b was found out of 46 samples.
Central Italy
In north-west Marche (Piceni), 8.5% of E1b1b was found out of 38 samples.
In South Latium (Latini), 8.5% of E1b1b was found out of 44 samples.
South Italy
In Lucera, nortern Apulia, 21.5% of E1b1b was found out of 60 samples.
In central Basilicata (Saniti), 6.5% of E1b1b was found out of 30 samples.
In central Apulia (Salentine Greek), 19% of E1b1b was found out of 47 samples.
In southern Apulia, 24% of E1b1b was found out of 49 samples.
In north-west Calabria (Belvedere), 6.5% of E1b1b was found out of 27 samples.
In Sicily (Catania + Trapani), 15.5% of E1b1b was found out of 57 samples.
From Di Gaetano et al. (2009) (subclades available)
Sicily
In Trapani, north-west Sicily, 12% of E1b1b was found out of 33 samples.
In Mazara del Valo, south-west Sicily, 22% of E1b1b was found out off 18 samples.
In Santa Ninfa, western Sicily, 19.5% of E1b1b was found out of 31 samples.
In Alcamo, north-west Sicily, 0% of E1b1b was found out of 24 samples.
In Caccamo, north-west Sicily, 12.5% of E1b1b was found out of 16 samples.
In Sciacca, south-west Sicily, 14% of E1b1b was found out of 28 samples.
In Troina, north-east Sicily, 26.5% of E1b1b was found out of 28 samples.
In Piazza Armerina, central-east Sicily, 43% (!) of E1b1b was found out of 30 samples.
In Ragusa, south-east Sicily, 10.5% of E1b1b was found out of 28 samples.
From Contu et al. (2008)
Sardinia
In Tempio, northern Sardinia, 11 out of 86 samples were E1b1b (13%).
In Sorgono, central Sardinia, 8 out of 103 samples were E1b1b (8%).
In Cagliari, southern Sardinia, 20 out of 187 samples were E1b1b (10.5%).
Sicily also has berberid E-M81 that crossed directly from western north-Africa, whereas the vast majority of E3b in Italy and the Balkans has the E-V13 signature. It's on the Iberian peninsula where E-M81 is define toy the more dominant variety.
I'm not sure this is what you'd expect to see if they all arrived together in Italy.
Of course they didn't all arrived together in Italy, and they aren't correlated with one another. Why are you focusing only about Italy? Those E1b1b are spread also in other Central and Southern European countries. And of course not the all the E-M81 are due to Moorish invasion, E-M81 has been found also in France.I'm not sure this is what you'd expect to see if they all arrived together in Italy. I think you'd expect them to be correlated with one another. I haven't analyzed them carefully but as stated, a crude analysis tells me the other haplos correlate somewhat with one another (E-M81 probably incidentally because I think it's recent (Moorish invasion)).
In Europe, E-M81 is widespread but rare, in the Iberian Peninsula Spain shows an average frequency of 4.3% (49/1140) in the Iberian Peninsula with frequencies reaching 9% in Galicia, 10% in Western Andalusia and Northwest Castile. However this study includes 153 individuals from Majorca, Minorca and Ibiza islands as well as 24 individuals from Gascony which are not in the Iberian Peninsula. Without these 177 individuals, average for Iberian Peninsula is 4.9% (47/963),[35] it is found at comparable levels to E-M78, with an average frequency of around 5%, and in some regions it is more common. Its frequencies are higher in the western half of the peninsula with frequencies reaching 8% in Extremadura and southern Portugal, 4% to 9% in Galicia, 14% in western Andalusia and 10% in northwest Castile and 9% to 17% in Cantabria.[22][36][37][38][39] The highest frequencies of this clade found so far in Europe were observed in the Valles Pasiegos from Cantabria, ranging from 18% (8/45)[39] to 41% (23/56).[2] An average frequency of 8.28% (54/652) has also been reported in the Spanish Canary Islands with frequencies over 10% in the three largest islands of Tenerife (10.68%), Gran Canaria (11.54%) and Fuerteventura (13.33%).[40] E-M81 is also found in France,[2] 2.70% (15/555) overall with frequencies surpassing 5% in Auvergne (5/89) and Île-de-France (5/91),[41][42] in Sicily (approximately 2% overall, but up to 5% in Piazza Armerina),[43] and in very much lower frequency near Lucera (1.7%), in continental Italy,[38] possibly due to ancient migrations during the Islamic, Roman, and Carthaginian empires. In a 2014 study by Stefania Sarno et al. with 326 samples from Cosenza, Matera, Lecce and 5 Siclian provinces, E-M81 shows an average frequency of 1.5%, but the typical Maghrebin core haplotype 13-14-30-24-9-11-13 has been found in only two out of the five E-M81 individuals. These results, along with the negligible contribution from North-African populations revealed by the admixture-like plot analysis, suggest only a marginal impact of trans-Mediterranean gene flows on the current SSI genetic pool
How much is accurate?For E-V22 there is this survey: http://e-v22.net/origin/ and http://e-v22.net/descendants/ Please feel free to comment!
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