Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

EBlack said:
Ooookay. We will see whats going to happen next. Can'T wait to see how will rise your "might kurdish sun".
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We live in very interesting times, almost Biblical. The world and the balance of power are reshaping. All what I know is that Persians are winning, Kurds are winning and this is what I like very much! Especially Rojava is our brightest star in Kurdistan. I'm very proud and very happy for my people, my brothers and sisters in Rojava! They earned it by fighting and giving their lives for that part of Kurdistan. You have to fight for you own freedom and Kurds are awaken and are fighting for their own homeland, their own destiny TILL THE END! I trust my people for 100%, because I know what kind of strength my people have. I know very well what my race is capable of, when I say that we, Kurds are children of the mighty Medes (who achieved everything they could), I don't say this for noting...
 
Goga said:
We live in very interesting times, almost Biblical.
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Then if you belive so, why are you so exiting about kurdish potentialy power? Because, if we are living in biblical times,
then all Kurds (as well as Turks, Persians, and Arabs) will be dead soon - if they don't convert of course. In this case, it
doesn't matter who gain power in the Middle East for a short period of time. It won't help neither you, neither them.
 
Rethel said:
Then if you belive so, why are you so exiting about kurdish potentialy power? Because, if we are living in biblical times,
then all Kurds (as well as Turks, Persians, and Arabs) will be dead soon - if they don't convert of course. In this case, it
doesn't matter who gain power in the Middle East for a short period of time. It won't help neither you, neither them.
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Just read the link.

http://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/the-return-of-the-medes/


" Through the Kurds, the Medes have stepped out of history and onto the world stage once again, and another player in the End Times Scenario is taking its place. One day soon, the King of the Medes will again lead a vast army against Babylon, and this time her destruction will be complete, and the Lord's words will be fulfilled. You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 10-11-14 "



Convert to which religion? Christianity? What do you mean? I'm not talking about ' GOG & MAGOG '. Bible prophecy I'm talking about is talking about the destruction of Babylon (Iraq) and the ' RETURN ' of the Medes. Not the destruction of the Medes. I don't mind if Kurds convert to Christianity. To me Christianity is much better than Sunni Islam. I've nothing against Christianity. I'm Ezdi Kurd (because both of my parents are Ezdi Kurds) and I'm even baptised in an Orthodox Church, so technically speaking I can call myself a Christian too (I was born in the USSR). But the point is that Christianity is NOT a Kurdish religion. It's not 'my' religion. It was not a religion of the Medes and other Iranic tribes. I don't care what my people want to believe in, I don't care what my father, brother, children want to believe in as long it is NOT Islam. But it would be great if Kurds come back to their own roots and start to believe in what our ancestors the Medes believed in. The ancient Medes and Persians were NOT Muslims nor Christians, they had their own ' Iranic ' religion, like me. My religion the Yezidism is an ancient ' Iranic ' religion, thousands and thousands of years old, true religion of the Medes!
 
Goga said:
It's not about religion and you know it. It's all about domination and power struggle.

Have you ever heard of millennia old ancient biblical prophecy of 'the return of the Medes'? Well, Kurds are the Medes. The Medes and Persians were closely related to each other. Even today after 2500 years, there are close genetic ties between Kurds and Persians. We are the closest races to each other, because of our ancient Iranic connection.

What I want to say is that Turkey is going down. Economy in Turkey is in bad shape and getting worse every day. Turkish war on Kurds costs lots of money, very soon Turks will have no money. In a very near future it's over with Turkey.
Such a great superpower like USSR was finished because of economy. Turkey is not even close to how powerful the USSR was.

Persia on the other had is getting more powerful. After Sunni Muslim Daesh attack of the Ezdi Kurds, Persia was the first country that helped the Ezdi Kurds. My people work together with the Persians. Little by little my race and Persian race are growing toward each other. Kurds and Persians together are unstoppable. We both are 'Iranic' people, and we have common enemies who are against our race. It has nothing to do with a religion. so we have to work with each other. And you like it or not, Persia is helping their brother race in Kurdistan!

The 'return of the Medes' (Kurds & Persians) is a reality now!
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Your "Persia" did a crap to help Yezidis. Have they send forces for help? Have they send any food or other material for the refugees? The only thing they did was order the Iraqi government to not pay Kurdistan budget so the refugees had even less to eat. Get down from your Persia love. Iran is the biggest enemy to Kurdish independence even before Turkey.


And the return of the Medes = Kurds& Persians? Since when are Persians Medes. Are you just trying to tro ll around here because I can't imagine how a person can be by all seriousness that confused.

Month ago I said these words. "Your love for Iran is sickening while the hang Kurds on daily basis". You answered with "No Iran is my enemy too".

And now you once again turned around your own words like a nutcase. But good that you proved that I was right. Your "Persia love" did not come up with the alleged(yeah sure) help of Iran for Yezidis, you had this atitude since years. You are a Pan Iranian/Aryan confused dude, who thinks because he has the same roots with Persian from few thousand years ago, they are his best friends.

Your "Persians" are nowadays Muslims and as radicals as the wahabis in Saudi Arabia.

Why did you even return if all you do is again insult a billion of people (even Kurds themselves) without differentiating.
 
Rethel said:
Then if you belive so, why are you so exiting about kurdish potentialy power? Because, if we are living in biblical times,
then all Kurds (as well as Turks, Persians, and Arabs) will be dead soon - if they don't convert of course. In this case, it
doesn't matter who gain power in the Middle East for a short period of time. It won't help neither you, neither them.
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all of us will be dead

ENd is near
 
Goga said:
Just read the link.

http://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/the-return-of-the-medes/


" Through the Kurds, the Medes have stepped out of history and onto the world stage once again, and another player in the End Times Scenario is taking its place. One day soon, the King of the Medes will again lead a vast army against Babylon, and this time her destruction will be complete, and the Lord's words will be fulfilled. You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 10-11-14 "



Convert to which religion? Christianity? What do you mean? I'm not talking about ' GOG & MAGOG '. Bible prophecy I'm talking about is talking about the destruction of Babylon (Iraq) and the ' RETURN ' of the Medes. Not the destruction of the Medes. I don't mind if Kurds convert to Christianity. To me Christianity is much better than Sunni Islam. I've nothing against Christianity. I'm Ezdi Kurd (because both of my parents are Ezdi Kurds) and I'm even baptised in an Orthodox Church, so technically speaking I can call myself a Christian too (I was born in the USSR). But the point is that Christianity is NOT a Kurdish religion. It's not 'my' religion. It was not a religion of the Medes and other Iranic tribes. I don't care what my people want to believe in, I don't care what my father, brother, children want to believe in as long it is NOT Islam. But it would be great if Kurds come back to their own roots and start to believe in what our ancestors the Medes believed in. The ancient Medes and Persians were NOT Muslims nor Christians, they had their own ' Iranic ' religion, like me. My religion the Yezidism is an ancient ' Iranic ' religion, thousands and thousands of years old, true religion of the Medes!
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Goga when read prophecies read them well

Babylon the great whore, where merchants got rich by selling nations,
the original is εμποροι των εθνων,

where they sell and buy nations?
there is modern Babylon
 
Goga said:
Just read the link. " Through the Kurds, the Medes have stepped out of history and onto the world stage once again, and another player in the End Times Scenario is taking its place. One day soon, the King of the Medes will again lead a vast army against Babylon, and this time her destruction will be complete, and the Lord's words will be fulfilled. You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 10-11-14 "
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1) This prophecy was allready fullfiled in antiquity.
2) You probably don't even realize, how complicated and connected are prophecies, if you are taking
only one piece of them to do from this piece of prophecies your own tool for national propaganda.
3) No one never prooved, that Kurds = Medes.
4) I don't no, how close are this two languages - can regular Kurd understand regular Pers and vice versa?

Convert to which religion? Christianity?
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If you're using a piece of prophecy, that means that you belive in that prophecy and a book, in which it is written.
If - as you quouted - you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah - you must convert, because Messiah will kill every one, who disobey him.
It doesn't matter: Kurds, Shia, Yezyds, Sunnis, even wrong doing Christians... bad Chistians will be the first. But in the worst position are Yezids.
Becuase they are pagans, or even worse than that - either from christian, sunni or shia point of view. So whose point of view do you reprersent?

What do you mean? I'm not talking about ' GOG & MAGOG '. Bible prophecy I'm talking about is talking about the destruction of Babylon (Iraq) and the ' RETURN ' of the Medes. Not the destruction of the Medes. I don't mind if Kurds convert to Christianity. To me Christianity is much better than Sunni Islam. I've nothing against Christianity. I'm Ezdi Kurd (because both of my parents are Ezdi Kurds) and I'm even baptised in an Orthodox Church, so technically speaking I can call myself a Christian too (I was born in the USSR). But the point is that Christianity is NOT a Kurdish religion. It's not 'my' religion. It was not a religion of the Medes and other Iranic tribes. I don't care what my people want to believe in, I don't care what my father, brother, children want to believe in as long it is NOT Islam. But it would be great if Kurds come back to their own roots and start to believe in what our ancestors the Medes believed in. The ancient Medes and Persians were NOT Muslims nor Christians, they had their own ' Iranic ' religion, like me. My religion the Yezidism is an ancient ' Iranic ' religion, thousands and thousands of years old, true religion of the Medes!
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So if you are a Yezid, why are you talking about Bible?
Bible is against such cults like yezidism. What is your logic?
Or you are only taking everything what can be use for benefit
of kurdish propaganda, whitout any other reason, logic and cohesion.
Do you heard about turkish fantasies? Why do you do the same?
 
Alan said:
Your "Persia" did a crap to help Yezidis. Have they send forces for help? Have they send any food or other material for the refugees? The only thing they did was order the Iraqi government to not pay Kurdistan budget so the refugees had even less to eat. Get down from your Persia love. Iran is the biggest enemy to Kurdish independence even before Turkey.


And the return of the Medes = Kurds& Persians? Since when are Persians Medes. Are you just trying to tro ll around here because I can't imagine how a person can be by all seriousness that confused.

Month ago I said these words. "Your love for Iran is sickening while the hang Kurds on daily basis". You answered with "No Iran is my enemy too".

And now you once again turned around your own words like a nutcase. But good that you proved that I was right. Your "Persia love" did not come up with the alleged(yeah sure) help of Iran for Yezidis, you had this atitude since years. You are a Pan Iranian/Aryan confused dude, who thinks because he has the same roots with Persian from few thousand years ago, they are his best friends.

Your "Persians" are nowadays Muslims and as radicals as the wahabis in Saudi Arabia.

Why did you even return if all you do is again insult a billion of people (even Kurds themselves) without differentiating.
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Persia is recognizing & helping the 'Ezdi' army and Ezdixan. Persians are openly supporting 'Ezdixan' and Rojava! Nobody else is doing that! We Ezdi Kurds have own army now becasue we don't trust Sunni Muslim Kurds anymore. There were 12000 Peshmerga in Shengal before the GENOCIDE. All they did is they retreated from their positions and sold out the Ezdi Kurds. They even took last weapons from my people. My people will never forget and forgive this action! Barzani gave them orders to retreat from Shengal and commit a GENOCIDE on the Ezdi Kurds, to kill our children. Ezdi Kurds have to be strong, when my people are weak they got attacked by the Sunni Muslims. We have to protect ourselves. We trusted the Peshmerga, but Peshmerga and Barzani betrayed us! Barzani doesn't support an 'Ezdi' army. Barzani and other Sunni Mslim Kurds in South Kurdistan are Daesh and they sold Shengal to Turkey & Arabs. Barzani never considered Shengal as part of Kurdistan (KRG). All what he cares about is his own Barzan region and his Turkish bank accounts. Barzani, his supporters, Sunni Muslim Kurds who work with Turkey, Daesh, Sunni Arabs etc. are our enemies!

I doubt it, but it would a VERY good thing that Persia gave Iraqi government to not pay Kurdistan budget. KRG is very corrupt, stealing Kuridsh oil money from Kurdistan. Most of the money goes to Barzani clan. KRG is a some kind of a terrorist territory, that is giving shelter to Daesh and other terrorist Sunni Arab leaders. Sunni Muslim Kurds that live in KRG are brainwashed in thousands of mosques Barzani build. Instead of schools, hospitals etc. Barzani is building more mosques! They support Daesh, and Turkey.

Sunni Muslim Kurds in KRG are against Rojava, are against Bakur (Northern Kurdistan), are against the Ezdi Kurds (Ezdixan), only to please the Turks and Daesh. So called 'Kurds', those who are Sunni Muslim extremists in KRG are lost people. Not every Kurd in KRG is lost. Those Kurds in South Kurdistan who support PKK and Rojava are the real Kurds! Someone should learned those traitors a lesson! What goes around comes around. The traitors must pay and they will pay! They (Barzani, Peshmerga, KRG, Daesh, Turkey) are nothing but child murderers!
 
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But for the sunni-devoted Kurds kurdish sunni communists are traitors too... ;)

So, who are a real traitors?

And, as you present us, Kurds are very devided.
So, how can you be sure, that you will be capabale
to creat a state, if you cannot agree with each other?
 
Rethel said:
But for the sunni-devoted Kurds kurdish sunni communists are traitors too... ;)

So, who are a real traitors?

And, as you present us, Kurds are very devided.
So, how can you be sure, that you will be capabale
to creat a state, if you cannot agree with each other?
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Not all Islam is bad, Kurdish/Iranic Sufism is great! But this Sufism is mixed with the ancient Iranic regions, like the Zoroastrianism etc. Some Shia movements are ok too. Also Kurdish Alevism is not Islam. Kurdish Alevism has the same deep roots as the Yezidism.

Real Islam has to be erased in Kurdistan. It's Islam that divides Kurds and Kurdistan.

For many Kurds in South Kurdistan/KRG who are so deeply lost that for them Sunni Islam is more important than Kurdistan. They are traitors. They do support Turkey, are againt Rojava, PKK and Ezdi Kurds, vote for Barzani, Islamic parties etc. Only some Socialist parties close to PKK in South Kurdistan are good parties. There're millions of Kurds in South Kurdistan who would vote for those Socialist parties when Barzani is gone! I'm sure thatthose Socialist parties will become very popular in South Kurdistan after Barzani is gone.

Kurdish Sunni Islamists who consider Islam more important than Kurdish race, Kurdish language and Kurdish homeland have no place in Kurdistan. They should emigrate to Arabistan, Turkey or Central Asia. Those Kurds are the real enemies of Kurdistan!

But many Kurds in South Kurdistan are more or less PKK supporters and don't like Islam. A lot Sorani Kurds are not very religious and very tolerant.

Real PKK is an atheist organization. PKK believes in power and the will of the people and not in GOD. You can't be a 'devoted' Sunni Muslim and PKK atthe same time. PKK wants a different way of living than Sunni Muslims. PKK believes in equality between men and women. Sunni Muslims hate women are 'child killers'. PKK looks into the future. Sunni Muslims look to their own holy book. PKK is tolerant toward all ethnicities and all religions. PKK accepts all differences of all people. Sunni Muslims want to make everybody else a Sunni Muslim!

But there're a lot of Kurds who believe in God and support PKK, like Zazaki Kurds, Kurmanji Alevi Kurds, Ezdi Kurds, Rojava Kurds (they are fighting against Islam intolerance and extremism !!!) .
I'm Kurmanji Ezdi Kurd myself, but to be honest most Sunni Muslim Extremists are among Kurmanji Kurds in Northern and Southern Kurdistan. Once those Kurds were Ezdi too, but our enemies forced them to convert to Islam and they got radicalized because of a some kind of identity crisis.
I hope those Sunni Muslims so called 'kurds' will become normal again, otherwise they have to move out of Kurdistan or to be neutralized...
 
Goga said:
Not all Islam is bad, Kurdish/Iranic Sufism is great! But this Sufism is mixed with the ancient Iranic regions, like the Zoroastrianism etc. Some Shia movements are ok too. Also Kurdish Alevism is not Islam. Kurdish Alevism has the same deep roots as the Yezidism.
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This are apostates who will be exterminated soon, after coming to power real islamic state.

Real Islam has to be erased in Kurdistan. It's Islam that divides Kurds and Kurdistan.
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Ancestors too...

For many Kurds in South Kurdistan/KRG who are so deeply lost that for them Sunni Islam is more important than Kurdistan. They are traitors.
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If you would know a little Islam, you wouldn't be talking such a things.
Not for every one kurdism is a religion, like for you.
Kurdish Sunni Islamists who consider Islam more important than Kurdish race, Kurdish language and Kurdish homeland have no place in Kurdistan. They should emigrate to Arabistan, Turkey or Central Asia. Those Kurds are the real enemies of Kurdistan!
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In their eyes, you are a real enemy of Islam.:smash:


But there're a lot of Kurds who believe in God and support PKK, like Zazaki Kurds, Kurmanji Alevi Kurds, Ezdi Kurds, Rojava Kurds (they are fighting against Islam intolerance and extremism !!!) .
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So for islamic point of view this is oxymoron, and they are apostates.

From christian point of view it would be probably too.
No one can be a true christian and socialist at the same time.

I'm Kurmanji Ezdi Kurd myself, but to be honest most Sunni Muslim Extremists are among Kurmanji Kurds in Northern and Southern Kurdistan. Once those Kurds were Ezdi too, but our enemies forced them to convert to Islam and they got radicalized because of a some kind of identity crisis.
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I hope those Sunni Muslims so called 'kurds' will become normal again, otherwise they have to move out of Kurdistan or to be neutralized...
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Tell me, what were doing Kurds when millions of arameans, assyrians, chaldeans, armienians, greeks and other christians were murderd?
 
Rethel said:
Tell me, what were doing Kurds when millions of arameans, assyrians, chaldeans, armienians, greeks and other christians were murderd?
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At the time when Christians were murdered by the Sunni Muslim Turks and Sunni Muslim Kurds, my people, the Ezdi Kurds were murdered too. Sunni Muslims committed 73 !!! times a GENOCIDE against my people. 73 !!!!

My people rescued thousands of Christians.

Only the Ezdi Kurds from Shengal saved 20,000 Armenians 1915/1916 ...

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https://twitter.com/PhenixKurde/status/580125746334699520
 
Goga said:
At the time when Christians were murdered by the Sunni Muslim Turks and Sunni Muslim Kurds, my people, the Ezdi Kurds were murdered too. Sunni Muslims committed 73 !!! times a GENOCIDE against my people. 73 !!!!

My people rescued thousands of Christians.

Only the Ezdi Kurds from Shengal saved 20,000 Armenians 1915/1916 ...

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https://twitter.com/PhenixKurde/status/580125746334699520
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Nice evidence. Who told you that? You know what historians are talking "here" now? Kurds killed Armenians. Hrant Dink said something like this too. Well since your evidence is just so good. My evidence will be my words too. You can search, if you want. It's not my thoughs.

İ just saw now, all you doing talking without evidence. My people are so goood. My people's islam even is so goood. Others are sooo bad. Turks are shit, Arabs are shit,whatever are shit. Kurds rules. Yea, even 5 years old child can say things like this. I just liked how you said "not all islam is bad, sufism is great!!"

Goga said:
They (Barzani, Peshmerga, KRG, Daesh, Turkey) are nothing but child murderers!
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That's are exacly the words of Turkish nationalism about PKK. I hope you understood what i mean. "Nationalist,rasict". That's exacly what you are. I respect people who are fighting for Kurdish people's rights at Turkey, like "Selehattin Demirtaş,Sırrı Süreyya Önder , Ertuğrul Kürkçü" I'm very glad they are people who will disgusted when they hear your words.
 
EBlack said:
I respect people who are fighting for Kurdish people's rights at Turkey, like "Selehattin Demirtaş,Sırrı Süreyya Önder , Ertuğrul Kürkçü" I'm very glad they are people who will disgusted when they hear your words.
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And I do really adore Atatürk, he loved 5 years old boys very much. Great man!
 
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